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Papi Menon

1 episodes · 11 quoted claims

Papi Menon says the industry has made a great deal of progress in recent years in letting AI agents discover and connect with each other securely, which he calls syntactic communication.

“So we've made a great deal of progress over the last year and a half, two years in enabling agents to discover and connect with each other in a secure, scalable manner.”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:06:48

Papi Menon says the cognitive layer, which would give multi-agent systems a shared understanding of their mission, does not yet exist.

“And so this is that cognitive layer that we are talking about, and it is still very much, uh, something that doesn't exist today, you know?”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:07:40

Papi Menon defines cognition as acquiring knowledge and understanding through the experience of doing something, and says individual agents have it but multi-agent systems collectively do not.

“the dictionary definition of cognition is really about acquiring knowledge and understanding through the experience of doing something, right?”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:09:13

A financial-services design partner built a network debugging tool with Outshift that simulates network changes on a digital twin before rolling them out.

“The idea here is that you can simulate what your network is like digitally, you can create um, a a digital twin, as it were.”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:10:24

Papi Menon says the multi-agent network debugging system built with a financial-services partner runs in production and has delivered benefits.

“This is a big, complex, multi-agentic system that we have built out with them. It is running in production today, and they've already, uh, realized great benefits from it.”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:10:59

Papi Menon predicts enterprises will run a mix of large and small language models across their own infrastructure and cloud services.

“It is going to be a multitude of different models, large language models, small language models, sometimes running on your own infrastructure, sometimes running in the cloud as a service”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:14:22

Outshift built a healthcare demo in which an agent on Cisco's Webex platform talks to a user, learns their symptoms and performs initial triage.

“There's one agent that's running on our own WebEx platform. It interacts it interacts with the end user, understands what their symptoms are, does an initial triage”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:17:50

In Outshift's healthcare demo, the triage agent queries an insurer's agent to learn the user's coverage before choosing a provider.

“So it'll do things like, well, it'll talk to the insurance agent, and it will understand that for this specific individual, what is the insurance coverage that they have?”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:18:24

Papi Menon describes build versus buy as a continuum and advises building what is needed, buying what is available, and connecting them at enterprise grade.

“Build what you need to, buy what you can, and then stitch them all together at enterprise grade.”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:19:21

Outshift has moved from calling its vision the Internet of Agents to calling it the Internet of Cognition.

“enable this open interoperable, what we call the Internet of Agents, now we call the Internet of Cognition, being able to allow agents to talk to each other”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:22:10

Papi Menon says early cloud adopters did not move business-critical applications first, and he suggests enterprises follow the same low-risk-first pattern with AI agents.

“it wasn't that they jumped in and took their, you know, business-critical applications and moved them to the cloud, right?”

The AI in Business Podcast · 0:24:52