Andrew Garfield

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We have Andrew Garfield on today. Andrew is just the best, a real tenderoni and hilarious and talented and and and star of film and Broadway. And we are gonna get into so many things today. We're gonna talk about how Munich has the best felt. We're gonna talk about having that competitive spirit, especially when it comes to board games. We're gonna talk about being method, but not being a jerk.

And we're gonna talk about his new movie The Uprising, which is out now and looks incredible, like all of the stuff that Andrew does. So, um, we're very, very excited to get started. But we always start our episodes by speaking to somebody who knows our guest, who has worked with our guest, has good things to say about our guest behind their back. And we're gonna talk to a legend. Lin Manuel Miranda, you know him from, Oh, I don't know Hamilton and Uh, Moana and the upcoming Warriors musical and five other million things that he's won ten Emmys for Lin.

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can I tell you I had a? I had a nightmare about that once,

you did.

I had a nightmare that like, Uh, you invited me on, but you didn't. I could tell you didn't really want me to be on, like someone had you. And you were like, come in, I guess Oh, that's like

making me nauseous.

you were very unenthusiastic about it. And were like, Uh, sit down, I guess. And it wasn't your usual set. It was just like some apartment where I was, like I was like a pity guest.

Oh, that's giving everybody the chills in here. So that is a that is a proper stress dream.

Woke up in a sweat. I can handle a lot of things, I cannot handle not being a good hang with you.

Oh my god, I'm so sorry that I was that way in your dream. In real life. And we are awake and I can't wait to get you in here. I am such a fan of your work. Love would love to talk to you and would be so happy to be talking to you.

Oh my goodness, gracious. The midnight.

yes, and so happy to be talking to you today. Where are? It looks like you're in some kind of studio. There's a piano behind you.

Yes, we, uh, we are in day two of our workshop for, uh, our next musical, Warriors Uh, Warrior,

come out to play.

that's the one. Um, so Issa Davis and I are here, uh, in the room, there are actors learning songs in the next room.

There must be no better feeling than like working with the piano and like hearing people sing in the other room and just the workshopping of it all.

Yeah, well, it's the it's the thing of like other people. Y. You get the solitude of writing and then you also get to, like, bring in a song and then people who sing much better than you sound beautiful on it. And it's it's, you know, I had so much fun with your episode with Groff, who is also like one of my closest friends. Because just the joy off him is like, we're in the play, we get to be in the school play, and and we're all still chasing that high as adults.

well, I feel that way. Um, you know, uh, about you, Lynn, like, I feel I know that everybody that works with you feels that way. Like you're such a collaborator, you love the process, you love making things better, you know, m, you know, letting the best idea win like you can feel that. And also you're a fan, um, like you've never stopped being a fan of the thing that you're doing.

Absolutely, yeah, yeah, no, it's it is. I mean, it's why I had so much fun when I was on SNL. It was, it's, it's the school play on steroids. It's like a supercharged version of the the. The thing that got me hooked on this art form of like we, we get to make it like, and we get to make something bigger than any of us could make alone. I think is is the big thing.

yes, so well said, so well said. Um, and and you got to work with sweet Andrew Garfield.

Sweet, sweet Andrew Garfield.

1st of all, congratulations on Tick, tick, Boom, what a beautiful film.

It makes my life that you even know what that is and have seen it.

Of course, I loved the performance, loved your direction. what an incredible cast. Like, can we talk about it just for a 2nd? Because I know it, you know, it was. It's personal material, it's also about a person's life. Who? And and Andrew is kind of actor who's played a lot of real people as I've been looking at his career. And like, could you imagine even a a a more considerate and nicer person to, like, take somebody's real life into their hands?

But can you just tell me, how did you guys come together to make that? how did that? uh, how did that happen?

sure, I, um, I, you know, most of my UM familiarity with Andrew's work was actually theater. Like, I was lucky enough to see him in Death of a Salesman with Philip Seymour Hoffman. Um, and he was unreal in that. And then I, uh, I saw him in Angels in America both parts, which is like, it's a day, it's your day, you know? You go to the matinee, to see part one, you eat dinner, you see part two.

They're both 3 h long. Um, and I didn't know whether he had a musical bone in his body, but it's such an endurance test. That play. And he was so magnificent in it that I was just like, this guy can do anything. I just thought, I don't know if he can sing, but I think he can do anything. Andrew and I had, like, exchanged an email or two in our lives. He was a fan of Hamilton and so I, Um, I said, Can we go out to like dinner before, uh, your performance?

He was, he was doing Angels, uh, in on Broadway at the time, and I took him out to sushi. And I told him about, uh, the movie we were working on, and I said, Can you sing? and he said, Um, uh, when are you making this? And I go, not for a year, and he goes, then I can sing. amazing, And I was like, Oh, my oh my god, I'm gonna learn god. Well, this. that, well, Guy

that's kinda like. The theme of what I wanna talk to him about today is like he works very hard, he's a really hard worker and takes, I think, a lot of, um, pride in that.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, he. He wants the work, he wants the the discipline. And like, Y, you have to be a monk to do eight shows a week, like you actually have to, like, know when you're eating, know exactly what you're putting in your body. So that you are at your peak at seven, zero pm. Eight, zero pm. That night. He has played a monk and and like, he live like, lives it, like he truly lives it.

And you know how I feel about Broadway? Absolutely too many shows. I, I've Well, said this,

to quote you in Wet Hot American Summer, theater is now, and it's you, that is true, that which I is watch maybe once a month. I, I watch that speech to myself just to pump yep, it was myself up.

very obtuse. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. It's now, and it's you

Yeah, I mean, you basically played me in that me at 14 in that movie, like guys, this is serious. And then you learn well, you learn, oh, no one wants to work with that person. Like, your job is to make the most fun room possible, so that people choose doing the play over basketball, over debate team. Like, No, no, actually, this is the most fun place to be. Not Skies, we're gonna work steps

Story of my life, story of my life, which is just like, just chill out, chill

chill out.

out, chill out, just Ju. Just pump the brakes on whatever you're saying, Okay, so, um, do you have a question you think I should ask Andrew today? Anything big, small,

Well, my, my, qu? Yeah, my question comes with a a story, which is that, um, you know, famously, Andrew, like, learned to sing, like, took a year and then came out on the other end and was just like an amazing singer for my movie. And there was a a sequence we had to shoot that was a swimming pool scene. Jonathan Larson, like, would swim to get his ideas, and he wrote this great stream of consciousness song and he gets the idea while he's doing laps.

And I, you know, had three days in the actual pool Larson swam in in the village. And, uh, you know, had a stunt double for all of the like complicated underwater photography, had a special underwater photographer. And then I found out Andrew is basically Michael Phelps, like his dad is a swim instructor,

that's right.

and Andrew swam better than my stunt double. So my question is like, one, what are the other superpowers you have that a director hasn't tapped yet? And and one like, what feels like even too much of a challenge? Like he learned to sing for me, he Martin Scorsese, like, threw him into the wild, like he's, he's really taken on some. I think he gets very excited by the challenges, like, what's one where, what's what's something that really scares him that he would still probably do?

That's a great question. And I think he's gonna love it because I think he's, I think he is very driven. Exactly by what you said, by the challenge of what to do next. And and, uh, yeah, and I never know what he's gonna do next. It's always really interesting. I mean, the his new film that's out is about a peasant revolt.

Yeah, and then he goes from that to Sam Altman, like, it's Yeah, I crazy.

know, crazy. Um, well, Lynn, I loved talking to you. I I think we're gonna have a very good time and not a scary dream time, like we see each other.

Thank you, I appreciate that.

And thanks for stepping away.

Absolutely have fun with Andrew. He's a lovey, lovey, love.

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Potential savings vary. Subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate, North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. whoo, Andrew Garfield is here. We're talking about smells. Do you feel like you have a delicate? do you feel like you have a sensitive nose? can you smell things? I do? I feel like I'm a super smeller. Do not, do not. I bet you, I bet you are sensitive to smells. I if I can't, if I can't deal with.

Smell is my number one, my number one sense sense. I'm the best at it. What do you think is your best of the five senses? What is your best?

What's my best sense? What's my most accomplished sense? we've got smell, we've What's it remind me of? The answer?

okay, we've got smell, we've got hearing, we've got sight, we've got touch. And what's the other one? Taste?

oh yes, I always forget taste.

You good?

I'm not, I'm not gonna be humble about this. Don't be, Um, and I don't, and I don't mean to brag. At the same time, please I'm kind of trying to be neutral.

do. I love a brag I'd say, touch, dang. This is the beginning of the worst or the best date ever. But touch, so do okay. Let me ask you a touch question, cause I enjoy, I

please do.

enjoy, I enjoy. Um, I like how things feel like, I like a

Yes, you're a tactile.

texture. I'm a tactile person as well. When you're shopping for clothes, do you do what I do? which is you? Just you go like this, you just go like this for real. If it's not soft, I'm not interested. You go, you sniff it and then you touch it. okay, fabric, Yeah,

you know what I love? Can I? Can I tell you? Can I tell you anyway? yes, but Felt

I fucking love felt. fucking hell, Uh, hold on,

what do we got?

hold on, stand by. Let me sniff We're gonna start at the

out the felt.

end, we're gonna start at I know the end.

where the felt is in this room. I'm like a divining rod for felt.

Okay, this is we're recording in New York. I have more felt in LA. But

LA. is much more felt this is a friendly. Ooh,

CH. This is a fake cheeseburger. Open that up.

oh my god.

This is a that's a hard

Oh my, it's. felt. It's a little hard.

Yeah, it's a little hard. This felt. This That's what she said.

felt is not.

That's what she said.

it's not mu, it's not, it's not Munich felt. I was just in Munich,

Munich felt.

you know, Mu. M. I told you I like felt. Say more There's a there's a Munich. Munich is known for its felt making. Whoa, cool, That's all I got.

and it has, like, specific, Beautifully you can tell, uh, it's made cool.

felt. So I was, I was shooting in Munich. This is a great podcast story. I was shooting in Munich and, uh, I didn't have much time on my hands, so I was shooting like intensely. But the time I did have was spent in the felt store.

I kn. Were you playing somebody who had to felt,

No, I was playing a peasant. Hm,

right? This is this new movie, The Uprising,

yes, call it the uprising.

Um, we wanna talk about it, and I wanna I wanna talk about the

talk about it.

fact that you are. Look at you, you really do like touch is a very important sense I for you. Look at you touching.

would not, I would never lie to you about something so Hold on, I vital.

sorry, but I just wanna indulge

What else?

your touch fantasy here, which is, look at this

What do you got?

another cheeseburger.

Just felt too hard for me.

Yeah, sorry, that wasn't good. Ooh, Give that a squeeze, oh, that's lovely, that's what she said.

that's really lovely. I'm really glad it doesn't squeak.

I'm glad it doesn't squeak, cause I'm an adult. You know what I mean, I,

yeah, I hear a mature

I'm a mature adult. lady. Yeah, I don't need a dog toy.

I don't need to get excited by sounds in the way that a dog might.

No, there's actually no worse feeling than when you bring home a toy for a child or a dog and you realize that it squeaks. You're like, Oh, fuck,

fuck, why didn't I check that? Um, what's cool about this? Yeah, what's let me let cool about me smell it while this?

you talk about it. Never smelt it, it's not bad, Kinda smells like, you know? Sometimes these smell like they come, Yeah, okay, but but you you know, all know, you you know, you

all know what I'm about guys know, to say.

you guys know how your fake cheeseburgers sometimes smell in your office, you know? Um, we, uh, Andrew Garfield is here. We're starting again,

That's all the time we have.

but you're talking about the uprising. I wanna talk to you about this because

I wanna talk about everything

I I'm obsessed. Okay, I've been thinking about my theme for you, theme. yeah, about H, what to talk to you about today? Cause I feel like we could talk forever and I love talking to you. me too, And same. I love um,

this, by the way. What you're doing here is so beautiful

thank you.

and I'm like, it's about time. There's another podcast.

Yeah, there, I know there wasn't enough. Weirdly it, people Weirdly, they were like, haven't we have room for one more, just one more. And I was like,

no. But like, if anyone should in this world, have a bad this room, Thank you it is for that. It's Lola. really fun, Yeah, man, well,

really fun. And I've been paying attention to as I've been thinking about and prepping for today. About your work and your life, and you, and I'm fascinated by your love of hard work. You just love to work hard, yeah, I do, you love it,

you do, too. yes, but not as Not as much

much as I used to. not anymore, That's why I have a podcast.

not anymore. Maybe It's realizing, sitting down when Yeah,

the but your. Your work ethic is really something it's, I'm r. It's very admirable. I'm, I know you. C. You care. Like your love language feels like it's like acts of service, like you do things for people, right? I got you, I very got you, I got.

funny. Yes, you were only a Yeah, like dead ringer. Yeah,

that is how you show your passion for stuff, your love for people and how you show up in your work. And you are always working so hard and in everything you're doing, you're training, you're starving, you're learning how to sing. This new movie. So it looks so hard, it looks so cold and dirty and hard. And that's all. I just want you to just take it. E. I wanna talk take it to you to you.

easy, you want me to take it easier? Yeah, what?

but I'm, I'm s. I'm really into your relationship to work. Cause I think it's like, it's very admirable, and also I think it's So funny, it's very. Um, I think it's your way into stuff. Would you agree?

Yeah, I mean, you know, I keep cause one of my favorite episodes that you've done is with Cole Aschola. Ugh, It was heaven, it's a heaven heaven, conversation and just heaven, the the running bit of I just like playing. It's just all, it's all play

it's all play.

to me, like the play is the thing. And like, honestly, I'm just like, I can never go on Amy's podcast, cause I will be the guy actually saying that for real.

I know what you mean, I It's really know what you mean,

impossible. You guys have made it impossible to have a serious conversation about

okay, but I think I can creativity. speak for, I know you mean, but I think I can speak for myself, and I'd like to speak for Cole. Uh, but I'm very interested in what motivates people,

yeah, sure, of course.

like how people move through the world. And that's the coolest thing about these convos. Were you always like a hard worker? was what? what? what did work look like in your house, in your family?

yeah, no, it's phew. Yeah, oh boy,

I know where we're going.

no, I know I just

Do you wanna hold something? wanna touch something? wanna squeeze something?

is there any felt that's softer There's no, than No.

no, there's no Munich felt.

No Munich felt in here. I know it's disgusting Fucking studio. Jenna, weird.

get the Munich felt.

Get them, bring out the Munich felt. JeddA I so, yes, I wa, I.

You are char. Okay, fine, I'll just ask you then, of course, it doesn't matter.

no no, I. I really love what you're. Um, I just unironically tucked my hair behind my ears. Um,

By the way, your hair is in same, a great oval,

we're, we're in the same position but you have, right now. your hair is great, Propecia

great, you know what people should know that

People, I don't listen.

everyone, every man I know, is on Propecia. And also

You just outed every single man in your life that you know, including your young nephews and sons. I don't know like, like every single male.

Propecia is incredible. And thank you for saying that you have naturally very thick hair you always have, you have congrats, incredible. And I bet you grew it like that, and you bet you don't even comb it in the morning and it looks incredible.

I lied about the Propecia. It's just all natural. I'm just trying to be relatable to other guys

But y, but your hair looks

out there. great. But anyway, sorry, Thanks you too.

you talk to, you talk about your hair.

I'm gonna say something controversial. S Sometimes, like, sometimes people are great, do you know what I mean? like, sometimes people are really great, and but I know that's a hot take.

that is controversial, Andrew, but that's so you. I mean, I, there's a there's a re like, there's a real humanity to the stuff you do. There's also you're just a delightful person to be around. You're a real tenderoni,

I am a tenderoni. you're a real, I will co sign that

you're a real tenderoni.

you and me both.

Yes, and and people are great, so Some, some, say more.

some people, some human beings can can be really wonderful and add beautiful things to the to the earth and to the world. And I'm I. I guess I'm curious as well about what is it that makes us feel compelled to do that? My, uh, my mother was one of those people in every single moment of her life. I have this image of her now that she's passed, right? And it came very like, like a flash in a dream, or like an awakening.

I don't know what it was, but I had this image of her being reunited with her tribe after ooh, she passed. And beautiful. it made sense to me why she was. She could be so hard on herself incarnate when she was alive. I was like, Oh, you knew you were meant to be in a thousand different places at once, giving goodness to people. And you knew, in some unconscious way, that you were being restricted by this vessel of a body, by the vessel of restriction of time and space.

So when she passed, I could, I just fe. I don't know like I don't know if you've had this experience with someone who's passed. But it's like, in the 1st month or two, I felt more connected to her than I ever felt connected to her when she was in car, in incarnate, when she was alive, alive. Let's put it in quotation marks. I do believe that she's here right now and she is everywhere all at once.

I do believe that, and I, I have a knowing of that. So there was something about seeing, maybe seeing my mother in in a in a very specific kind of hard work that was so naturally occurring for her. And and I was always someone in the same way that you just did with me, I was always someone with her. I was like, just take a trip, just relax, you're enough, you're the most beautiful angel on earth.

You. You can give yourself what you give to others. And and it doesn't make you selfish, it doesn't make you any which way. But after she passed, I had this real understanding of, like, oh, no, that was just inherently who she. I don't know whether it was nurture or innate. I have no idea, but it was just the the activating, the animating spirit of her, of her essential nature, of her essential being. And and I, I guess you could call that hard work, or you could, or you could, I don't know.

There's, there's something otherworldly about it. As I say, after she passed, I was like, Oh, she's back, she's actually back, she's back where she's meant to be. Running around with her, like good angel brigade, like giving people who need a miracle, a miracle. Um, like, times a million, I could f. I could just feel it, and I was just one of the people that she was hanging out with.

beautiful. I mean, the idea that her spirit, uh, and one spirit can be kind of like, released once they leave their their body. Just the the idea that somebody is bigger than their body. And that's so interesting that you talk about your mom when I ask you that question. Because there is something in your work that feels really, not only curious, but very unbridled. Like you like to kind of go go places as I'm trying to like psychoanalyze.

Um, please and again, I am no therapist, but I do feel like I am, um, and that's what this podcast again, is about.

she says again.

And this, and I will give you a prescription at the end of this. Um, no, but I think it's also very interesting that you tog you, even though you're, you're British. In many ways, you were born in the US. and you talk like I find you toggle back and forth between those things culturally very easy. And I had a question for you, which is, what do you think is the most American thing about you?

and my love of hamburgers, like, I love hamburgers.

But you have, you have very youthful energy as a person. You're a little brother, you're a little brother, I have a little and your older brother brother. is a doctor.

He's a doctor, a heart and lung doctor in London. Oh my Yeah, yeah, god, the t, the the good, the good son. the good, yeah, he's He's the one the one, he's that made good, the s. Yeah, he made good. Yeah,

well, did he always? was he always?

yeah. He was head boy at school, he was captain of the swimming team. He was a fucking son of a bitch. He was a son of a bitch.

how many years older than you?

Three years older. Yeah, yeah, I was fucked. I was fucked from day one, and he gave me meningitis day two of my life. oh, he did He brings home meningitis.

well, and then he became a doctor to heal you from it.

You really should prescribe at the end of this. And and yeah, I, I I think like being raised in a competitive household is definitely a part in in in, like the nuts and bolts of like, the therapy. I would be like, Yeah, um, we don't feel enough. The Garfield men. There is a kind of, um,

well, com. But competition is sometimes gets a bad I. I rap. I love love competition, competition,

I love games, I love,

God, I love it too.

I've fucking.

What, what kind of game player are you? You know what I mean, like, I. do you get too intense?

I've, yes.

Do you? Yeah, me too.

I think you would have to ask my friends this, but I would say I do I. I, I have a I. I can upset people.

Yeah, I have as well. I definitely I. I work on it because obviously, like everyone, wants to have a good time. But when people fucking so say things like, I boring. know, when people say things like, who really cares? I'm like, What are we doing here? like, what do you mean? Like, we're playing a game, like we have to try to win as best we can.

otherwise you're ruining the game. Anyone who, like, says, Yeah, I'll play, and then it's like, Ooh, yeah, like this it's like,

is so stupid, it's like, don't fucking play, don't fucking play. yeah, don't show up, And and also I'm treating you I, I, I'm being rough on you because I believe in you.

and I love you. Yeah, oh, for sure,

I mean, expect the best from you.

yeah. And I want I want you to grow

I want you to grow at at Celebrity or whatever we're playing. I traitors, want you to, I want you to grow. werewolves. Okay, do you like playing Mafia?

Yeah, well, I play werewolf is the version I play. Yeah,

W, I'm not B. I'm

I'm bad at being the werewolf.

dude me too, I'm. I hate, I suck and when I game,

at it, I suck.

I'm like, Oh, fuck, I'm like,

I know I hate it.

I hate it, I hate, I hate the like lying, I hate the A deception. I know I know, I don't and I. But know, but I love a a chasing, winning, uh, yes, of I love chasing. course, Joel. John Proctoring Yeah,

and also defending oneself.

of course, being like, how dare you think I changed that I'm not

my name, you could not take my name. And everyone's just like drinking their beers and just like wanting to go to the bathroom, like thou shalt not.

okay? So let's get in. I do. I do wanna ask you. Q A couple questions about your work. Okay, I have to. Um, your 1st film, you're with Meryl Streep Cruz and Robert Redford. How old are you then?

I'm 23, I wanna say So you're coming onto 21.

that set like, and we all, you know, you have the everyone has the jitters of like any 1st day on any job. Like, I'm just gonna be cool, I'm just like, you know, like, I'm gonna just don't talk then too much. Like, that's what I would say, you know, to myself, like, just listen more than you talk and just they'll get to know you. You know, whatever you're saying to yourself, what as you're driving to set or whatever, what are you saying to yourself when you're approaching that set?

That's like, a really intimidating set, that's so intimidating.

oh my god.

What was it like to work with Robert Redford?

I don't know what I was telling myself. I, I, I. So, 1st of all, Bob Redford, God rest his beautiful soul of service, that man had a soul for service. Like, what? What he did with Sundance and like, and what that sprung from came out. It came out of him, I think, helping out his new neighbor in Utah, who was about to be foreclosed on. He's like, Oh, I'll buy your farm so you can keep it.

I'm gonna have to make some some money out of it. Um, and we'll set up a like a lab for young filmmakers. So it came out of him helping out his neighbor. It's just like he was, he was a beautiful, beautiful man and very late all the time to everything. So I say it with love. So I'm like, I'm like, yeah, terrified and nervous and pinching myself. And then Bob is 4 h late and it's just like, I know, Uh, by that time, I'm

of course. just pissed, I'm Love that.

just angry. Okay, let's do the No, I'm, I wasn't worst. Yeah, really, yeah, but but but. right, so you're But a lot of the nerves had kind of dissipated. okay, good, Cause, cause, cause. He was so loose and casual, and he sh, and he's so, he was so cool and he. And he still dressed like he was in his 20s, with a double denim. And he w and he and he D. He wasn't aware that he was late.

He was just like, on his own Redford time, and he's. He was famously late. I'm not like telling tales out of school. He was like a famously late

Well, God is fair. I person. mean, you know, like he's so handsome, like there's gotta be something wrong with him. I mean, what if he was, like, on time all the time? Like, Okay, great, so he's late, like, he'd be a little annoyed with the guy, so he's late. He's like, I'm t. I was too handsome. I c. I I couldn't get couldn't stop in my car. looking at Like, Yeah,

my and I felt guilty.

and so ba. So you were feeling less nervous. It helped.

And and well, he was so relaxed, Yeah, he he was so

was so relaxed.

relaxed. And and and he would shoot him his own coverage. 1st, he would shoot himself, and then he would look at me after his 1st take and he'd be like, What do you think? Cause he was directing as well, so all my scenes were with him and he was like, What do you think? And I was like, Oh, my god, this is great,

really good.

this is really good. Robert Redford. And he was like, Okay, Oh, that's really you know, I'll do it again, I'll do generous. it again. And then, but yeah, tell me if you think, if you see anything that you think, and I'm like, Oh my

Oh, that's a really interesting god, move, right?

it was heaven. Cause he's trying to Oh dude, yeah. Just like, make me feel like it was my set and make me feel like I was an equal. And like, you know, it was my 1st movie.

yeah, that's very nice.

Oh, he was so nice, he was so beautiful and we and it was like a theater play, and I'd done only theater at that point. It was a lot of dialogue and it was like, a

Well, you are a theater, you're a theater boy. I love Y, you, that theater. is your 1st love.

That is my 1st like love out. Like it was like that was like my 1st exit of the Truman show. You know what I mean, like, like, opening that door in the sky. And then it was like, there's a whole world out there that I had no idea existed.

When you were working on that film, were you still working at Starbucks? You had quit? no, I Starbucks?

had quit.

No, because there is always this weird thing sometimes No, I wasn't when you're acting.

ready to fully let go of it. Of I wasn't like, you course, know, I'm not gonna say that that's that era is over. I, I had a little bit of a shock straight out of drama school, like I, I did two plays in a row. And then I, I was like, I'm set. And I did. Like a Doritos commercial in Spain, and I'm like, and you're like, that's that

I guess, wrap it up, fellas,

like, stand on that, wrap it up, like, that's my like, that's gonna. That's my kind of. Like. The rest of my life is gonna be the occasional Doritos like crisp commercial and and great theater work. I'm, I'm good, um, and then I didn't work for a year, and then I started having to wait tables again and be a bartender. And I, I broke up with my girlfriend at the time. So it was like a really great year of, you know, you're never safe, like you, you get like this destabilized kind of place.

And I still have it. I s I'm sure that you do, too, even at the top of this swanky building or not. You're like, No, I'm Well, pretty much set.

no, you know, it's funny. It's funny you say that I know what you mean. Like, I still just feel like Anything you have to have a plan could happen. Yes, always, just if everything goes away. Um, yeah, what, and

what's yours?

well, I mean, it's funny. I. I still have dreams sometimes about going back being a waitress because I liked, I liked waiting tables a lot. Um, because, uh, working in the service industry in general, I liked a lot. Because there was just certain things that felt like you just completed your night, like your night had a system and you completed it. You interacted with people enough that you performed a little bit, you were with people who worked, also worked very hard.

But the idea of, like, doing a good job still means a lot to me. I know it means a lot to you. It's I get a lot of self esteem from work. Do you consider yourself a method actor? So the method, And if so, who am I speaking to? But it, but it's like, but it, but cause it is, you do, you do go pretty deep in it. When you're playing a character, you do

you got that tricks to look in your eyes. well, you got You're looking for the clickbait you. headline. You're like, is he gonna give me the W juice?

Wait, you lost all this weight, you was studying Thanks, for a year, being a monk, you, you go for it, you I, go for it. Are

I do.

you method?

Are you? Method? answer the question, Are you method? It's a yes or no question.

I mean, are you, though?

Don't try and get, don't try and get cute with it. Take me there, are you?

I know.

Let me know what I wanna know. Um, I, in a way, yes, but I think that, yeah, but I think I think the term has been massively mischaracterized and misunderstood and co opted by people that don't know. A method is basically having a method, and and like the S, the the Stanislavski method, the Strasberg method is about trying to live truthfully under imagined circumstances. And and and having it feel personal, having it feel, um, connected to something that's interior.

That is not just, um, a kind of more performative, exterior, um, abstraction, uh, I so, so I feel like, yes, but but I don't. Um, I I think there's a way of doing it that's generous, I think there's a way of accessing that work and that style of working. That doesn't fuck with the rest of the cast, that doesn't fuck with the rest of the crew, that you don't have to lose a bunch of weight. That that's playful, that, well, yeah, yeah, yeah,

that's playful.

totally, and and generous, like I feel, and and I and I my personal taste and my personal. Sidney Lumet, the great, one of my favorite filmmakers of all time. Who who who seems to vanish as a director in his movies? In the sense that, like, he let his movies be the movies, rather than letting people know that he directed them. You know what I mean, like, e, every movie is such a different flavor, such a different feel.

Alan Parker is like that too Alan for me.

Parker's Exa. I was thinking about Alan, and and and so very. One of my favorite films of all time. Bugsy Malone Alan Parker. And then he does Angel Heart. Holy fuck, you know? And and so so. So, he says in his great little book, Making Movies, I don't know if you've r read, he tell. He tells a story about Paul Newman, I think, or he, Yeah, he tells a story about Paul Newman in what was the movie they made together.

It'll come back, but he's like, Paul Newman came with with. And he did the scene. And um, s. Lumet was like, Okay, I think we're gonna reshoot this tomorrow. Because I think you need to. You need to f find out what this scene's about inside yourself. And he comes back the next and and and. And there was something very personal that he was referring to. He's like, I think you know what this moment is, and I think you're resisting going there.

And um, Paul Newman, Paul Newman came back and he did the scene. And it was like one of the great, you know, scenes of any SAG Lumet M movie. And he describes it as personal revelation. Sidney Lumet S is like, the actor's job is personal revelation, while the cameras are rolling, the actors that I respond to, and the storytelling that I respond to, feels like personal revelation. And and through through the lens of a of a character I think about, like, and I've talked about this openly about tick, tick, boom, which is a film that I'm very proud of and I really love.

And I and

beautiful performance. I can feel, hm,

uh, thanks, and I and I just. But I, I, I can s talk about it because it feels very personal and also not personal at all. In a way, it does feel like that kind of liminal place of of letting a another spirit move through, intermingling with my own spirit, but also my mother's spirit is so much in that film. Um, but but it. It was very, very personal, cause I just lost my mom and we were making this movie.

And it's about the shortness of life, it's about the shortness, the sacredness of life, it's about being of service, it's about living out your own calling, your own destiny. In a way. Uh, what we're talking about, waiting tables and that year off, like, like, how, how do you? h, how do you hang on by hook or by crook? To the note that you hear in your head, that you have to follow, like, how do you play your note?

how do you? how do you not fall asleep to your note? Even though the you're a salmon swimming upstream of a of a world telling you to to to drop it and and take the nine to five or whate, whatever it is.

You, uh, mentioned directors you've worked with, really interesting directors you always do. I. I have a question that I I wanna ask. Uh, Fincher is one of my favorite directors, he's, I love his films. RASHIDA was in social network, I know, and my wish I always, and was coming I was like, what was it like working with David Fincher? Like? And she's like, He's so incredible to work with. But I really wanna know genuinely, and and not, I'm not like digging for some, I wanna know.

What does the many, many takes do? How does it help you as an actor? how does it? does it? How is it not frustrating? hm can Or like, be. Yeah, is it s like I, I, I love I'm, you love it?

fucking love it, cause I love acting and I love hard work and I love sports and I love, and I love. Not going home with anything left to give. And yeah, there's nothing worse, as you know, than going home, going. I could have done that better. It sucks to feel it, to feel like you're in bed and you're just like ruminating of. Like I, I was I, I. My father put me through drama school, he worked so hard and now I've just done like a half job at like this thing, this thing that I'm so lucky to do.

And so, yeah, I love it. And also I find it pleasure, I just find the work really deeply pleasurable.

But I love positive reinforcement. I do, I, I genuinely do. It works on me, like, I don't, I don't. The challenger in me, I, I, what I what I'm I'm relating to, uh, uh, is the competitiveness of like tapping into, like, fuck you, I'll do this fucking 30 times. I don't give a shit, I can tap into that. But I need sometimes like, I don't like, um, and I'm sure, uh, David isn't like this, but uh, but I, I.

I don't do well when I like, like when someone's nagging me, like, I to. just kind of quit.

To use the phrase from the pickup artist,

Are you talking about mystery?

that's why I miss her. Sorry, Obsessed, just a quick sidebar shout obsessed, out to mystery. shout out to mystery, We miss on there. I you guys,

noticed it, mystery. we miss you so Didn't work between us, so that much. doesn't mean you can't find love. Um, obsessed with the She didn't pickup artist.

love the neging, though.

I. It does not work on me. Like when someone comes up and like, you know, like, Hey, you're ugly or whatever, I'm like, Okay, like, and just like, Why are you so ugly at this bar? or whatever, whatever that I does not. I'm, I'm not even good at pretending to do it, I just I'm like, huh? It does not work on me, it does not work on me. But like, even at an exercise class, right? If someone's like, you're gonna work super hard in here and like, you know?

And I'm just like, No, I'm not,

not anymore, I'm not.

not anymore.

You coulda had me, you coulda Yeah, but had all this.

when someone's like, you got here, no matter what, at seven zero am, like, I'm like, fuck yeah, I d. I'm just telling for me, for me. So in any of those e uh, repetitive takes, whether it's with David or another director, do you like, do you trust when you get positive feedback?

with David, I do, I Okay, and he, you, did. he would give it yep, he would, okay, good, okay, and and he. But. But what's so cool about David is that he's that he's that dad, you know, he's that dad that, like, knows that you need that in and and and he'll, and he'll give it to you in abundance. When you've, like, when you've really shown how much you care, it's it's that kind of coach, but

right, I can. I l I love Yeah, I can see a sports coach that like that. Like, me too.

like, like Paul Greengrass on on on the film, The the uprising is like that. He's like, incredible team captain, he's just like, he's just like a if we. We were like a football team, the English football team. Um, and he was our, he was our man, and and it and and he. He was so full of beautiful, positive reinforcement. Fiff Fin David would be Fincher would be less quick with it, for sure. Um, but when you got it, it was like that you, you would be stoic about, you would receive it and you would wanna cry.

But you would be like, Thanks, yeah, that's cool. It was like that level of like it meant so much. And the big scene with, like the smashing of the laptop thing in that

And the social network for movie, anyone who doesn't know what we're talking about.

yeah, social network. And um, we did a lot of takes of it and I. There was like a few rounds of takes where I was like, he's gonna call, he's gonna, he's gonna call it soon, he's gonna call. He's like, Okay, one more time, Andrew, and I'm like, Okay. And then on the 3rd round of ten or 15 takes, I didn't hear anything. I was just like on the floor with like, I was exhausted and like, just like snotty and just like crying.

And I'm just like waiting for like. And at that point, you're broken in a way that's like, so beautiful, it's beautiful. so beautiful. It's the best fucking feeling in the I mean, I guess world, baby, it's the some best fucking feeling in the world.

okay, you say, so okay,

And I and I just feel like a shadow approaching, like, like, like covering, like, like the i i. The light that was on me just gets like, kind of covered by a figure. And I look and it's his shoes, and I look up and he looks down at me. And he just puts his hand down and he and he takes my hand and he shakes my hand and he lifts me up and he's like, Okay, moving on.

And I'm like, so withholding, so hot,

uh, I don't know you. ha, you, you have me. Sorry, but you all right, haven't sold me, you haven't all right, sold me.

let me tell you a different story.

Because I would invite him at Tate ten to say you're doing You're doing a great great. Hey, baby, job. hey babe, Hey babe, you're doing great.

hey babe, you're doing so great.

I, I would have, like, this is what I would have liked. You're doing great, but you know me, I have to do 25 more. That's what I would have liked, I feel you that would have been like,

well. Let me say one more thing about David, because I feel like I need to protect David as a as a father on set. Now. You can, yeah, yeah, I. You can feel that he's proud of you because of what you're giving,

He's such a talented director.

but you can feel it. It's not, he's not withholding. It's like, it's like, it's not like you're doing a bad job, and it's not like I'm not gonna give you the banana. It's like, it's like you can feel. When he's, he's like, he's like, we're gonna keep going, do we? We'll do another one. Think about this, think about that. He's, he's a tender, tender guy, he really, really is.

Getting back to the very beginning of what we're talking about is this idea that caring about something is like, it's, it's just like, very important. And I, I'll, I'll self reveal because you're, you're really doing it, you're really. You're you're only acting really doing to be my therapist today, which I don't appreciate, I'm sorry, which I don't appreciate.

I'm honestly sorry.

Okay, um, you're my David Fincher and you're breaking me down. Um, no, but um. But when I feel like I if I've checked out, or I like, feel like I am acting like I don't care about something, it really means that I've divested. And it's a bummer, cause it means that I've lost some kind of relationship. Sometimes you have to do it to protect yourself, sometimes you do it, cause you don't have anything left to give.

Sometimes you do it, cause you don't feel like the person that you're with. M Uh, earned or

can hold it.

deserves or can hold it. Deserves. Yes, totally, Yep, all that, but it you feel like you've lost something, like heartbreaking. in that it is. And It's heartbreaking, you are very, very y. As a person, as a, as an actor, you really invest, and it's, and it's like, it must be, um, exhausting, it must be exhausting. it's tough, it's That's why I think tough. you need to take a break from some of these movies, I'm gonna they're too,

take a break. No, I am gonna take a break. they're too hard, I, I was too too much hard. It's too hard being an money. actor, being an actor is Did you so pretending,

see cold call? No, it's, it's pretending very hard,

to be things, pretending to be in a in a peasant's revolt. It was hard,

it's hard.

pretending to be a German magician.

I go home at night and I'm like, Owie

I had to pretend it was cold, it was actually hot. so, and then And then and then, um, well,

but wait, I do wanna my, I what, wanna, okay, you what, bet? hm,

seriously, whatever, whatever you wanna well, ask,

well, you know what? I come on, I love, I love your, uh, your. J. Hold on,

this is an SNL skit, isn't this? an SNL

I'm trying to be, I'm trying

character? Was it like a Fred to, I'm trying Armisen? Was it

to be real.

you and Fred Armisen? Or was it, you know, it was a Kirsten Wiig? That was like they would start a sentence and then, like, never finish the sentence.

Yes, Fred.

What was that sketch?

They played, uh, Garth and Cat.

Oh so good, I love Oh, no, f that sketch.

sorry. Fred played a character called Nicholas Fain.

Have you ever let me ask you this? Incredible, Have you? Has it ever been a okay? Say you're in summertime, it's summer, Oregon, but there's a dog, do you have a dog? Wait, dogs or cats? Anyway, yeah, and I, I do it I and I've badly.

already told you that, uh, or I, I said on that podcast, the when he would do it, the cue cards would be blank. You hosted SNL, Genius. I did right?

it once, yeah, I did

And did you have a good time it, I loved doing it? Yeah,

it, I absolutely loved it. And of I bet course, I was so scared. But again, like service, like, I think the best episodes are when the host supports the cast. W. Well, that's And like,

not always, uh, like, an, uh, intuitive thing, which I understand. But like, nobody really pulls anybody aside to say, like, I know this might feel weird, but it. You'll have the best time if you say yes to the stuff that, like the cast likes. And the, you know, like, if you just like, become an ensemble member, you'll, you'll have the best time. It's not joyful. always, um, set up like that. But did you host it for Spider man?

were you? was it during spider

I think it was the

man? 2nd Spider man. Yeah, I had Tom Holland in here. sweet, Oh my gosh, sweetie pie, could what a sweetie pie. could cut through. Yeah, Such a doll a doll, and such a talented actor.

so talented.

And I, I just have to say I love how all of you guys, like, show up for each other. You talk about each other, you talk about your experience.

it's a brotherhood now, which is really, really great. Like, I think, like, doing, doing the one where we're all together really cemented some kind of weird brotherhood. That was just beautiful, you know? And and I. I had known Toby a little bit before, but he was always my, you know, my north star with that character, that like, and and I and I loved what Tom's done. And I think that was very healing for all of us to do that together and to feel less alone in that very, very weird, singular experience.

Like to be a part of this character's legacy, that is, maybe, I don't know, arguably one of, if not the most popular fictional character in the history of F, like modern fiction.

really, really true.

I don't know another character that is that beloved around And now, the world.

you know, mother of boys, I didn't How old are really.

your boys?

They're now 16 and almost 18.

And the Propecia is helping.

Yeah, it's helping a lot. Yeah, I insisted they get you know, one. Um,

really, like, like, a lot I'm like, of hair now, mom, mom, mommy loves eyeballs,

a good head of hair, mame, mame, you know, mother won't be D, mother will be disappointed. That's what I say. I wake them up and I say, Has your hair grown? Mother's disappointed. Have you seen Andrew's hair? I say, don't let mother down. That's what I say every day when I close the door. But they, but they, um, the the way in which, when that character was introduced in their lives, the way they embodied him, like they, they their, their bodies want to.

It's really why it's so Joseph Campbell primitive stuff. that's so interestingly It's

put, that's really interesting.

they wanna get in that crouch and they wanna leap. And that's so it's so fun with those kinds of films where you watch people come out of the film and they're just moving like dancers to like how it's so cool. And um, I just wanna talk about Sally Field,

oh my god, yeah, let's do that.

isn't she? She's so good at acting, she's one she's of the best, so she really is.

she's maybe one of the best.

You've worked with some amazing women Fucking hell, and congratulations. You seem to really love women and everybody can tell. thank God, because Yeah, women love you what I and and and phew. they and and you can tell, and Sally is, I don't know, I just what was it like to work with her? what is she like to be around?

She's one of the great people, alive or dead, for that matter. But um, she's, she's so weirdly, still humble. It's a weird thing like she, I, I would say she has legend status, she's an icon, legend status as a performer, as an actor, as a person. Um, and somehow she's retained a kind of homespun, grounded again, in the same way that Redford made me relax. Like Sally's is someone that you just feel like you're with. The best friend, aunt you could ever wish for.

I was thinking about this the other day, actually. I think one of the great highlights and privileges of my life was to be able to give her a lifetime achievement award at the SAG Awards a few years that was so ago. great. I felt so lucky. I almost said no, cause I just didn't think that I could handle it because it was so. It was such an honor, cause she is so beloved and and rightly so, and she's so beautifully extraordinary and ordinary side.

She honors her ordinariness in such an inspiring. I, I, I really can't believe I can even talk about her in this fashion.

It's so funny you say that she's so, so, so talented. Like I, I, and I've. She's probably her and Meryl, probably the two most influential actresses in M in for me growing up. Um, but she never felt, uh, above or below us ever. She never put herself no one up, one that way. Yeah,

down. No, no, no, it was always never, I just like, know, just just her.

um, there's a million people that would've wanted to talk to me today about you. I know Like

about this part of your thing. I'm nerv, I'm like, it's excited and nervous, and you got you have someone to come so many and say something

friends, you have so many talented friends and they all love you and they all wanna they. There's, it's, you know, it is, it's, it's. It's a really, ridiculous. uh, you should know that. It's a really nice thing. When you have a guest on and there's like so many people that would wanna How come? Oh speak well behind your back.

man, that's crazy.

Um, but we talked today to Lin Manuel Miranda and um, he talked about the process, you know, of of working with you and and how, you know. When he said, you know, um, can you sing? and you know? And you were like, when? when are you gonna make this? And he was like, in a year, and you were like, Yes, which is amazing. I love that. And that is now knowing a little bit more about your competitive spirit.

I understand that, which is like, I'll, I'll

hm. mine.

do, I can do what it takes. Yes, yeah, yeah, put me yes, so in, true. Um, his question was he? He just spoke a little bit about how. What a good swimmer you are, and how he didn't know that. And and he called you the Michael Phelps of actor. of acting, which, you know, Hm. Not a lot not that big of competition of a deal.

there. No, who would that be me? But um, And I don't know who yeah, do you swim else?

a lot? Do you like to swim? I still swim? Yeah, You do?

I still swim. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

cause it i I I.

I surf now I. It's translated. Yeah, it's like my gymnastics. I was a gymnast when I was a kid. That translated into, like, you know, spider man stuff. Um, I took all of the stuff that my dad was trying to, like, discipline me with, and I turned it into something like a funner version of those things. Like with swimming, it was like up at five, zero am. You know, swimmers like they, they, they train, it's crazy, I know so so I turned that into surfing.

So like, Uh, my paddle is pretty strong and I can, yeah, so I like, so I, I'm. I surf more than I swim, but I swim, I don't. I don't really swim swim anymore. I'll do like open water swimming and swimming in the sea, and like swimming in ponds and like natural places.

yeah. Do you have long arms?

I don't think that's any of your business.

Fine, fine. Well, I'm not gonna tell you what Lin said.

I know that your least strong sense is your vision, but you could have made an effort to just look at the Sometimes I'm like, arms.

Do you? I'm like, Do you have long arms?

You have long arms. Can you clear something up for me? This has been bugging me this whole time.

I'm like, let me see.

Are your arms long or are I'm like, they short? they meet? Where are they come in the spectrum?

closer to me. I need to smell and see if your arms are long. Um, okay. But he said, he said, Um, 1st of all, he was like, tell, ask Andrew what? he said.

The only way is like a columbo with his, Oh my god, the only way you guys I can figure are like, Ah, out.

that's a good Peter Falk. Peter Falk. Me and him have the same birthday. Not Let too bad.

me smell it. Just one more thing, no one more thing, let me smell More money, your arms. Just because the the model I had was paying particularly long swimmer's arms. I don't know, I just not wearing my glasses, but but my nose is strong, so I would like to, just, ah, never mind, I'm out now. One more thing,

one more thing. Can I smell your armpits? I just wanna see if it smells like chlorine. Have you been in the pool? Oh shit, God, Peter Falk, fucking you guy, you guys remember

Peter Falk.

Peter Falk, right? If you anyone under the age of 50, Columbo, God damn it, love Columbo so much. But so Lynn Lynn's question for you was, Um, what other secret? Uh, as for, you know, he had a two parter. 1st was like, what other secret? What other secret? Sing? Are you good at that? We don't know yet. I know he's like, tell us now, so director can, a director can know, but

that's funny.

he basically was basically saying, like, you know, does anything feel like too much of a challenge? Um, you do a lot of you. You really take on a lot of challenges for the work that you do. You're, you're game.

Yeah, that's a cool question. Uh, it's a question that I've been asking myself. Um, you know, you know what I'm really scared of? I'm gonna tell you anyway. Um, being a being a dad scares the shit you're gonna be out of me. so great, It scares me you're so much.

gonna be so great. Don't even worry about my god, it. Seriously, even if you get mummy's proud 50,

of my hair. Is that what you're mother is saying? Mummy's proud, mother proud? Look

is proud.

at all that.

If you're gonna be the fact, Andrew, that you even say it,

well, I mean, that I I think that that would be the biggest,

you're gonna be.

most important thing I ever probably do. And I and I, I know that to be true. I. It makes me wanna cry thinking about cry, it.

cry, cry, cry.

Cry, cry, cry.

I love when boys cry on here. Cry, cry, cry. Talk But it, but about peeling it's, it's like, an onion. Yes, fuck, man, yes, he'll cause I know be so good.

I know what it's like to be on the other end of it. You know, you know what I know, I mean? I, I've been a I know it's child, I've

really, it's.

been a son. Yes, we. We've all Yeah,

been born from dads, and so crazy, sometimes not right.

right? I don't know. Well, Don't cancel us.

don't, don't get, I'm sorry, we all, we're all born, however we want. Fuck, wait, but get, let's get back to you crying. But you're gonna be such a good dad, don't it? You're I, I, gonna nail I wanna it.

do it, I do wanna do it, and I and I, I know it. Kinda. You can sometimes feel a bit selfish with I wanna be a dad, like, Well, I don't know, I don't know, so I, so I'm the the. In terms of a challenge, I can't imagine a greater, a greater challenge than, um, taking that kind of responsibility. Um, and then there was another question about stuff I'm good at. Um, I th a sad, uh, I'll s, I'll, I'll respond in a sad way.

always. Uh, I, and it. It relates back to the body failing. I

Oh my god, what are you gonna gonna grab some say?

felt real quick. Girl, just grab something, Yeah, get that felt let's get that back in my hand. touch going. Yeah, Yeah, sweet felt.

let's do a little. Yeah,

I, um, I was playing basketball recently. I love basketball and I thought, I think I'm pretty good at basketball.

I have a theory about this. Uh, I think the worst injuries happen with men in their 40s when they play basketball.

It's it's a theory that's backed up with a lot of evidence.

Go ahead, what did you do? And Columbo's sister, No, Columbo's sister, she comes and she's like, Columbo, let's get out of here. And he goes, Wait a minute, just. She's like, you said you were leaving like 10 min ago, Columbo's sister is like, get in the car. Jesus, you had your keys in your hand for 10 min. I've been in, waiting in the car. Columbo's like, just a 2nd. Okay, sorry, sorry, okay, basketball, I was let's get back on playing basketball track.

with some friends. I was playing with Woody Harrelson.

Oh, great, he's a good basketball player. I know White men can't that. Yep,

jump is one of my all time favorite movies. Why am I holding these felt like they're cards in a poker game?

oh my god, do you have? Do you have? Turn everything into Yeah, we were

a game.

playing Uno. Do you have orange cheese? Okay, okay, sorry, come on, Andrew, focus, I if that's the problem.

if anyone's not watching this and just listening to it on the podcast, fuck We're holding, em. I'm so sorry,

you know, we're holding. I'm sorry We've been for most of what's holding cheeseburgers

been happening.

this whole time. I'm so sorry. Okay,

Oh, Jesus Christ. I was playing with Woody, who I love and I've been a fan of forever. And White men can't jump is just one of those all time great movies, and his is one of my all time favorite performances of all time. All time, all time, all time. And I was so excited to play with him. And then, as soon as we got on the court, I just froze. I was just like,

you got it in your head.

just like, I was just like the seven year old at the party that just wants to go home. Oh God, yes, oh I was

God, yes.

just so scared.

It was like, fight or flight, or freeze, I was and you, Fro, I froze, and you froze. Yeah,

folded, I fully froze and folded, and I played really badly. And I just wanna apologize to and that's tough uh, that game.

for a competitive person like you.

Yeah, I froze. I was just like, I love Woody so much, and I've been wanting to play with him for so long. And it was our, finally our time. And he still plays great and he's like, you know, he's.

I don't think you should, Woody. If you're listening, you're gonna blow out your knee.

He's taking really good care of himself, but he, he, he's a compet, he's fiercely competitive and I love it. I absolutely love it anyway. So, um, a thing that I thought was a hidden talent. Lynn turns out, uh,

it's gone.

it's, and there was never, maybe there, so there there we have it.

You made a movie that took place in 1381 and it is about a peasant uprising. It looks badass, it's called, it looks I. I saw the trailer for it and and the feeling of like, whoa, this is a very political, very interesting movie to make right now. And what is it about?

yeah, it's a true s. It's about true events in that period of British history. Um, it's the it's called the Peasants Revolt, um, and it was a a big uprising, um, among the the ordinary folk of the of the British Isles that came together in an organized way. And it's, um, uh, it's told, the story is told in a way that is very unique. And it's cause it's this. It's one of my favorite directors of all time, Paul Greengrass, who people would have seen a lot of his amazing films, like Captain Phillips or the Bourne series of movies with Matt Damon, or, um, United 93, or Bloody Sunday, uh, the news of the world with Tom Hanks.

Um, some of my favorite films of all time. And I've wanted to work with Paul forever. And and and. And it brings up in really interesting questions about revolution, about violence in revolution, whether it's needed, whether it's not, how change can happen without some form of military coup. Like, it's really a a a visceral story.

it's so cool, it looks Yeah, and it's, incredible,

and it's a ride as well. It's also just like a really entertaining kind of action film. It's like a really cool movie.

and it also has my s, my scariest kind of villain, which is a a boy king,

Oh yeah, boy king, tyrant, boy king,

tyrant, boy king. Oh, there's nothing scarier.

yeah yeah. And it was real. Richard, Richard, this, this King Richard was 14 years old, and he had, and at that time, this is what's crazy at that time, and it wasn't metaphorical, it was literal. The King was the messenger of God's word on the earth. So anything that the King uttered was literally treated like it was sent from heaven above. There was, and any equivocation of that meant you were a treasonous and traitor to the throne.

So anything that this boy decides, this 14 year old boy who is being governed a lot by these money hoarding, power hoarding, land hoarding oligarchs, was treated, was had, had to be. It was. There was no question. It was just like, that's the way it is. Water is wet, you know, sky is blue, the King is God on Earth, ugh, okay, that's that. So, yeah, that that level of power, it's a really interesting ugh. thing for right now.

I need to finish our, I need to finish you. N you need to go. You have like bye, 45, but 45 other things to do tonight. But

No, this is lovely, I um, but love being I wanna finish here.

by asking you the question I ask everybody, which is, what are you listening to, watching, numbing out with? Oh, I love What kind of

numbing out, man.

okay? what do you? what do you? What video do you like? what movie?

What video?

what?

What's your video?

what's your video? Sometimes it's just a video What's the of, like a

video you're watching? bird eating What's your video right

a worm.

now?

We're back on the 1st date, now we're back on the 1st date. And What's you're like, What's your favorite video?

your video?

What vi? what video? what video do you watch? When you wanna? When you wanna turn off your head, your your head,

what's the video?

what video do you watch?

My favorite video right now is, um, I've been watching a lot of Roy Horn of Siegfried and Roy fame, cause I play Roy Horn in this, uh, in this upcoming Apple TV show. And we just finished. Do you know I what it is, love this for you, bro? It's really funny, you're playing Roy Roy, Horn. Yeah, so I've been watching lots of Roy Horn

Is that why your hair videos. is so luscious?

Yes, yes, that's partly, but then we just end up putting wigs on of the same hair. It's like, Can I get a wig of this on this? He? Yeah, great, that makes sense. No, no, no, it does make oh my god, sense. We're playing them through me and Jude Law. Jude Law's playing Siegfried, and we're playing them through their through the decades, from their 20s through incredible to their 60s. It's story. amazing, so fun. It Monticore, was so hard.

Manticore Monticore, man eater, it means man eater, Excuse the name means man me, I eater.

did not know that. The Manti. tiger, that

There was an incident with, we there say, incident, was an incident, there was an accident, there was an accident cause who knows was named exactly what happened, Monticore, which which means

it means man.

man eater.

I cannot wait for this project.

And Roy hand raised him and Roy, Yeah, so I'm, I'm obsessed, and I'm still obsessed. That's a good sign that I've we, we. We were prepping for a year, we shot it for six months, and I'm still obsessed with Roy. I still, um, adore him and his spirit. Um, so I've just been watching lots of, uh, footage of him for the last year and a half, and I continue to watch it cause I just adore And have you him.

handled tigers? Have you been near tigers?

I have been near tigers, yes, but I, but only in a in a, in a very legal and safe way. But I did feed a tiger by hand, which was kind of incredible.

Tigers are amazing. And I and I, my god, and I, and I say to them, Good day, sir, I say to tigers and I, and it is nice to meet you, and I shall take my leave. Because tigers scare the fuck out of me. They're so,

they lived with them. I know, He hit a thing in the morning, he hit a button as he woke up, and it sent a bell into the garden. L letting the the tiger that he wanted know it was time to come and snuggle. The tiger came into the house, came up to the bed, jumped on bed, and they snuggled to wake Roy up. He was incredible. something else, man, he was something else. Andrew Garfield, Hm, Amy Poehler,

we have talked so much. a This was so lot of yapping. We fun. We yap, we yapped, yeah, yap, yap, that we we. I was knew we would.

me too. It's been a while,

I know it's so fun but to be with you. I love talking to you.

I feel like we're from the same planet in some regard, I feel like we're from some kind of same universe, which I I love just being with you. And I've, alway, always have. I remember when I 1st met you, it was with Jane Aronson, Dr. Jane Aronson, and the Worldwide Orphans Foundation. And I was really nervous to meet you, cause I'm just a huge fan of yours and I just think you're just so wonderful. I I hadn't known many famous people at that point.

And you were just like, so warm and engulfing and encouraging and caring in such a genuine way. That made me feel a lot of hope for for, for being a person in this world. And I, Andrew, I, you, you, you're, you're a beautiful, beautiful person. I really Andrew, adore you.

thank you so much. You smell so good. Everyone should know it's my best sense, and I'm here to say, Andrew smells great, just like we thought. Andrew Garfield everybody, Andrew Garfield. That was so fun. Oh, you're just a real silly billy. I had such a good time with you. Thank you so much for doing this and and for this polar plunge. You know, we talked about some great people that Andrew worked with, uh, including Sally Field.

And I just wanted to remind everybody, if you're looking for a movie, a beautiful movie that's filled with heart and will make you cry. And uh, and it's all about, like, the the spirit of of a, of a woman saving her farm. Check out a movie called Places in the Heart with Sally Field and Danny Glover and a young John Malkovich and Ed Harris and Amy Madigan, and it's so, so good. Um, not enough people talk about this movie, and it's one of my favorites, Places in the Heart.

Sally Field, I love you, Andrew Garfield, we love you. Thank you so much for doing this episode and thanks everybody for listening. See you soon. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Aleya Zenieris, Bridget Geerlings, Paige Garbarini, Belle Roman and Drew Van Steenbergen.

For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.