# Paul McCartney

- **Show:** Good Hang with Amy Poehler
- **Published:** 13 Oct 2026
- **Source:** https://traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT6399893742.mp3
- **Transcript:** https://podcasts.opennash.com/shows/good-hang/paul-mccartney-acfcc5/
- **Provider:** OpenNash Podcasts (machine-generated)

## In brief

Paul McCartney says he approaches music as play rather than work, and that his best songs come from simple curiosity, honest feedback and a group of friends who tease each other. The conversation connects his songwriting habits to his family life, his friendships and his sense of humor about his own legend.

The episode moves between big-icon stories (the Beatles, the Queen, a knighthood) and small, human ones (breakfast, a milkshake lyric, a first memory). Amy keeps steering toward process and love. Stella's questions open the way to Paul's origin stories and the family warmth behind his work.

## Key insights

1. **Paul treats music as play, not work** He says 'we don't work music, we play music' and calls himself a 'playaholic'. He still says he feels lucky it is his job, which he compares to his first job winding coils in a factory.
2. **He nearly became a coil-winding manager** Paul left school to wind coils for seven pounds fifteen a week, with a path to management. He hesitated when John and George offered a gig at the Cavern, then chose music.
3. **Honest feedback came from childhood friendship** The Beatles grew up together, so they could say 'that sucks' without offense. Paul worries that fame now makes collaborators too afraid to tell him a line or a joke is bad.
4. **He writes by following whatever sounds good** Paul sits at a guitar or piano, plonks around, and follows any phrase that works. He teaches students at LIPA that he has no formula, and he found the line in 'Days We Left Behind' by flipping 'black and white' to 'white and black'.
5. **A toddler's word inspired 'Monkberry Moon Delight'** Paul says 'monk' was his children's word for milk, so he imagined a milkshake called Monkberry Moon Delight. The surreal lyrics were wordplay from a zany period, not drug references.

## Questions this episode answers

### What did Paul McCartney do before the Beatles became famous?

Paul says his first job after school was winding coils in a factory, with the idea that he would later become a manager. He paid attention to the weekly pay of seven pounds fifteen before choosing the Beatles' Cavern gig.

### What does Paul mean by calling himself a 'playaholic'?

Paul says people call him a workaholic, but he thinks musicians 'play' music instead of working it. He says he is addicted to playing and feels lucky it is his job.

### Was Paul McCartney taller than John Lennon?

Paul says the Beatles were about the same height, with Ringo a bit smaller. He objects that films like 'Nowhere Boy' show him as smaller than John, and he says he worries the upcoming Sam Mendes film makes the same mistake.

### What is 'Monkberry Moon Delight' really about?

Paul says it started as the name of a milkshake in his head, because his young children said 'monk' for milk. The rest of the lyrics were wordplay and silliness, he says.

### How did Paul and George Harrison meet?

Paul says they met on the school bus in Liverpool, where they wore the same uniform and talked about guitars and rock and roll. Later he recommended George to John Lennon as a guitar player, and John was impressed.

## Facts

- **Stella McCartney** [0:04:28]: "Obviously, I'm a sustainable, cruelty free fashion brand"
- **Stella McCartney** [0:04:52]: "Well, in Scotland, with my siblings, it was normally just self entertainment."
- **Amy Poehler** [0:20:03]: "When you were 27, you were only together for eight years, you made 13 albums."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:24:24]: "My 1st job was coil winding in a factory"
- **Paul McCartney** [0:25:18]: "So I went out and they said, we've got a gig, we've got a gig at the Cavern."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:25:30]: "I looked at the coils, I looked at the pay packet seven pounds fifteen a week"
- **Paul McCartney** [0:26:02]: "I think like about one and a half, and I was one and a half years younger than John."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:26:45]: "Sam Taylor Wood did a film called No Boy and um, the John character, who she later married"
- **Paul McCartney** [0:28:13]: "Sam Mendes is making the film, I said, Sam, I've got just one thing I I need to say to you"
- **Paul McCartney** [0:29:40]: "So we were out in Hamburg, schlepping around, playing, um, you know, at not very nice little clubs."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:32:22]: "I do a class in my old school that me and George went to in Liverpool."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:34:31]: "And on Dungeon Lane, there's a there's a song, um, called Days we left behind, which is special for me."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:45:13]: "She was crowned, um, when I was eleven, so and she was a babe, you know, when w I was eleven, she was like 23 or something"
- **Paul McCartney** [0:47:03]: "Yeah, I mean, British history, there was a king called Edward the Confessor. At least it wasn't Ethelred the Unready."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:50:26]: "a recording studio in London, where, um, Air London it was called, and there were a lot of studios."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:51:05]: "And we had a lot of stuff in common. She's like, uh, crazy vegetarian, so we had that in common."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:54:11]: "I used to get on one stop, these big D double decker green buses."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:55:08]: "there's one song called Down South, and it's, uh, it's about how we met, uh, on, you know, the school bus."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:55:08]: "I put George up and I sort of said, I've got this little mate, you know, he's little."
- **Paul McCartney** [0:59:12]: "But it meant that, uh, Stella had to be in an incubator and she was little."
- **Paul McCartney** [1:01:05]: "I was born in a place in Liverpool called Walton Hospital, which was a real old Victorian thing."
- **Paul McCartney** [1:02:30]: "when the kids were little, you know how kids don't always, can't pronounce certain words well, uh, the word for milk was monk"
- **Paul McCartney** [1:04:50]: "it was around that time when Lorne had come on and offered us $3,000 to to perform."

## Transcript

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**[0:00:29] Amy Poehler:** Paypal Inc. NMLS 910457. Oh, hi there, everyone, welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Boy, we have, uh, well, the most famous person in this studio, and probably the most famous person I've ever met. Uh, sir Paul McCartney, Paul McCartney is here, the Liverpudlian who was in the Beatles and in Wings and in our lives for our whole lives. And um, we, we're gonna talk about a lot of great things today. We're gonna talk about, uh, whether or not Paul was taller than John.

**[0:01:08] Amy Poehler:** We're gonna talk about, uh, Paul's love of animals. We're gonna discuss what makes a great breakfast and how many berries are involved. And we are going to, uh, talk about, um, Paul's new music, Boys of Dungeon Lane, the the re release, um, and new songs that have just recently come out. Um, special edition. Uh, we're gonna get into music in general. Of course, it is Paul McCartney, Paul McCartney is music. Um, before we do this, we always like to speak to somebody who knows our guest, uh, is a fan of our guest, or, in this case, is the daughter of our guest.

**[0:01:40] Amy Poehler:** And we are speaking today to Stella McCartney, Stella McCartney, a huge talent, fashion designer, incredible creative mind, who is just so funny and warm and witty and smart. And we got the opportunity to talk to her, and we're gonna see if Stella is gonna give us a good question for her dad. So, Stella, this episode of Good Hang is presented by PayPal. Brighten up the start to the festive season by getting ahead of the holiday rush.

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**[0:02:49] Amy Poehler:** And I never wanna watch the Great British Baking Show. It is so good to talk to you. I'm sorry we were having some technical difficulties.

**[0:02:58] Stella McCartney:** Oh, no, that's good. We were having some technical difficulties. Also.

**[0:03:01] Amy Poehler:** Am I speaking to you in England? Hi, Stella,

**[0:03:05] Stella McCartney:** hi Amy, I actually like you a lot. Can't believe it took this to get us together.

**[0:03:11] Amy Poehler:** I know I've had the pleasure of being invited and dressed by you, but I've been. I've had the chance to go to many events where you have been. Um, where we've g. I've had, like, a very quick drive by. And every time I've gotten a chance to spend time with you, I've really wanted more. Because I'm such a fan of you, your work, your creativity, how you conduct yourself in the world, and it's really, really nice to talk to you today.

**[0:03:37] Amy Poehler:** Thank you for talking to us.

**[0:03:39] Stella McCartney:** Likewise, Wow, that was a bit serious, that freaked me out.

**[0:03:42] Amy Poehler:** Yeah, it got very serious.

**[0:03:43] Stella McCartney:** Don't ever do that again, never.

**[0:03:45] Amy Poehler:** I know you Brits, you Brits, you can't ha one compliment and you guys get I honestly, real. I nearly, I vomited I know, a tiny bit in I know, I my mouth know. Well, you there. know, get used to it.

**[0:03:55] Stella McCartney:** I am great, I'll take it.

**[0:03:56] Amy Poehler:** Are you in the middle of a of a a show right now? Are we? Ca? What are we?

**[0:04:01] Stella McCartney:** it's perfect timing. Thanks for that. I have a show in about three days in Paris. I'm not busy at all, Amy. So, you know, with the time difference and everything, it's perfect. It's brilliant. I was kind of wondering what I'd do tonight. And this has just filled, filled a hole, filled I mean, a hole.

**[0:04:16] Amy Poehler:** what I imagine is going through your mind right now is three days to go, but w at three days to go before a show, what is left to do? Is it everything? Pretty much. Yeah, Hm, yeah,

**[0:04:28] Stella McCartney:** I mean, we we only started last night. So I've got a lot of little. Actually, I've got children I'm using to help stitch some things now. They're not my own. She jokes, she jests. Obviously, I'm a sustainable, cruelty free fashion brand.

**[0:04:45] Amy Poehler:** you grew up on a farm, right? I did What was it like to grow up on a farm? What were your morning jobs? What did you have to do in the morning?

**[0:04:52] Stella McCartney:** wow. Well, in Scotland, with my siblings, it was normally just self entertainment. I used to take rocks and bang them on other, and I'm not joking, I used to take rocks and I'd bang them on other rocks. That's about it, really. No, I with a lot of horse riding, but rocks on rocks,

**[0:05:13] Amy Poehler:** Yeah, and did you have to? Did you like? I? I'm gonna admit something. This is a very like, suburban city girl thing I'm gonna admit, so you might think less of me. I've never reached in under a hen to get an egg.

**[0:05:29] Stella McCartney:** oh, I did it all the time. Yeah, yeah, and never particularly enjoyable. N Not really one of my a little scary

**[0:05:36] Amy Poehler:** I would be a little afraid to get. Do you have to ask the hen to move 1st? Or do you?

**[0:05:41] Stella McCartney:** fish and chips. Yeah, in fact, not many people know this about me, but I'm very good at impersonating chickens.

**[0:05:49] Amy Poehler:** really, can we hear?

**[0:05:51] Ad read:** Really?

**[0:05:58] Stella McCartney:** So I'm quite good at, I can converse with a chicken amongst many other things. Um, I s, so I'm, I'm bilingual in that respect. But I did have to go out and get the eggs when I was young.

**[0:06:10] Amy Poehler:** Well, your parents, um, were like, it just seemed like they wanted so much to create a beautiful, like, peaceful and loving childhood for you. And you know, it seemed like that's what they gave you. And I'm talking to your dad today, and you've probably spent the entirety of your life having people ask you questions and talk to you about your dad. And I, I, I. I wonder what it w is like to have to kind of share your parents with the world.

**[0:06:42] Stella McCartney:** Yeah, it is, yeah, it is quite weird. I mean, I've only ever known that, to be honest. It's not like I've had another sort of experience that is my experience, and it's definitely trippy and weird and surreal. But I think also I was brought up, it was very extreme, you know, we were on a farm, it was just the six of us. And we were like, in a tight, all in one room. And mum was cooking, dad was shearing sheep and writing songs, and then we were on tour, you know, with like, 200 people screaming at your parents.

**[0:07:12] Amy Poehler:** yeah, you all went on tour together. Ugh, how fun, how fun.

**[0:07:18] Stella McCartney:** yeah. I was kind of angry when I was 18, cause I was building friendships and I was kind of getting into the swing of my own thing. And I was like, What, really, we have to go on a world tour? But it was, it's amazing, it's what it's actually. One of the most, I think the biggest privileges actually of being in my situation is being able to just truly see the world. From, you know, from that perspective, just to travel and to see so many different cultures and people.

**[0:07:44] Stella McCartney:** And and also, it was all very much built from love, you know, everything that my mum and dad did was like, came from a place of love. But I'm also not particularly like a look at me type, if you, if you can believe it. So actually, when I went for me, going into fashion was a more creative way of doing things. Than just standing slightly behind the kind of spot, you know, I'm not an entertainer. She says.

**[0:08:11] Stella McCartney:** Imagine if I broke into song right now,

**[0:08:14] Amy Poehler:** Well, we did hear a chicken impression earlier, we did hear that impression.

**[0:08:17] Stella McCartney:** what? Let me hear your chicken? And what's your anim? Go on, I'll give you, I'll be kind. What's your best animal? I don't Do it? know, I don't know, Stop? Oh, everyone I don't knows their best animal. Jesus,

**[0:08:27] Amy Poehler:** I don't. My best animal. Okay, you know what? Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try a cat for you

**[0:08:33] Stella McCartney:** wait, is this the 1st time you've ever impersonated a cat? in public. Yes, Wow, okay, well, there you're welcome. You're, as

**[0:08:42] Amy Poehler:** yeah. And here's how I feel about cats. They're fine. I don't love them, I don't hate them, of course.

**[0:08:48] Stella McCartney:** that's the cat at the door. Wait a minute,

**[0:08:50] Amy Poehler:** All right, here we go. Okay, go. Meow, meow, meow.

**[0:08:59] Stella McCartney:** The beginning was very good.

**[0:09:01] Amy Poehler:** I think people are laughing because it's so good. But you bring up something that I think is very interesting. A lot of people that have public facing jobs are actually kind of secretly introverted. People would probably be, um, surprised to hear that you consider yourself at times introverted.

**[0:09:18] Stella McCartney:** I mean, I don't think I wouldn't say I'm introverted. That's going a little far. I'm just not a I. Look, my example of an extrovert is a Paul McCartney. So it's not like, Oh, I'm an introvert, I mean, I'm not compared to him, I'm an introvert, you know? I grew up with around SNL comedians, so I, you know, some of those. As as you know better than anything, are extrovert and others really aren't, but they're still performers.

**[0:09:41] Amy Poehler:** yeah, you know, I. I wanna talk to your dad about that, cause he's around SNL all the time. I mean, he's basically,

**[0:09:46] Stella McCartney:** And he can't get rid of them. I'm like, again, really, Jesus, play hard to get a little bit. No, I, um, I actually went to the one, um, the end of last season, it was great, it was really good fun with Will Ferrell. So he had Will on. I was like, I am coming, cause obviously, and I saw Will on your show, you guys were brilliant. Um, and I was like, Dad, and on the way over there, I was, I was talking.

**[0:10:08] Stella McCartney:** I said, Dad, you please tell me you're gonna like, get Will on and to do the cowbell? And he was like, What cowbell? I'm like, n what, what cow, like, you know, the cowbell sketch anyway? So then he did, but then he got Will to do cowbell

**[0:10:21] Amy Poehler:** he did. again. You're welcome. He Thank you, Stella.

**[0:10:23] Stella McCartney:** did, he did, he didn't really give me credit, which is annoying. Yeah,

**[0:10:29] Amy Poehler:** Well, I mean, I wanna talk to him about Lauren and that relationship at SNL. Because you're, you're right. I mean, he, he was around a lot. And their their affection for each other is very sweet. Like they've, you know, I'm, I mean, honestly, you know, they're what? You get to a point in life where you become, you know, you're friends with people for forty, fifty, sixty years and it. There's so much history there and it's really sweet to hear them talk about each other.

**[0:10:54] Stella McCartney:** they are very, very good old friends, actually. I mean, they do yoga, you've heard about yoga boys, right?

**[0:10:59] Amy Poehler:** I like that you call them yoga boys,

**[0:11:01] Stella McCartney:** They're the yoga boys, they call themselves the yoga boys. Be honest to God, actually. No, I must get them t shirts for Christmas. Yoga boys, not even yoga men, yoga boys. yes, cause they're Jesus

**[0:11:14] Amy Poehler:** always learning, they're in a, they're in a beginner's mind.

**[0:11:17] Stella McCartney:** childlike, for sure.

**[0:11:18] Amy Poehler:** So, um, what is a question, uh, I should ask him, like, uh, anything like a story that he would wanna tell? Or, um, something you still don't know about him? Or, um, anything you think I should not talk to him about? That's always helpful, too.

**[0:11:39] Stella McCartney:** No, he's pretty, he's pretty approachable. I would say, Yeah, I mean, I can think of things that you shouldn't ask him, but you won't ask him those. And if you do, it'll be hilarious to to watch. I'm just gonna watch that unfold, quite frankly. Um, I've got two questions, am I allowed two questions?

**[0:11:54] Amy Poehler:** Yes, of course.

**[0:11:55] Stella McCartney:** The 1st one I think, uh, is, is, um, I guess I just wanna kinda start by saying, you know, my dad is truly a living legend, like he really is an absolute icon. He's inspired so many generations of so many people, and his impact on, you know, planet Earth has been just gigantic. Like, he continues to just give and give and give, and I think he does that through lyrics, you know? So, one thing before my question, I just wanted to read out some of my favorite and like, deep, you know, most meaningful lyrics by him.

**[0:12:33] Stella McCartney:** So, so, I sat in the attic, a piano up my nose, and the wind played a dreadful cantata, cantata, cantata. Sore was I from a crack of an enemy's hose and the horrible sound of tomata, tomata, tomata. Ketchup, ketchup, super puree, super puree. Don't get left behind, don't get left behind, ketchup, ketchup, super puree, super puree, don't get left behind. Now it continues, it continues. If you want a little more. My piano was boldly outspoken in attempts to repeat his refrain.

**[0:13:16] Stella McCartney:** So I stood with a knot in my stomach and I gazed at that terrible sight of two youngsters concealed in a barrel, smoking monkberry. Moon delight. So my 1st question, I think for my father is, Have you ever smoked monkberry Moon delight? and what is it? Fantastic question It's from my favorite album,

**[0:13:40] Amy Poehler:** from Ram.

**[0:13:41] Stella McCartney:** which actually is my mom and dad. I think my mum shared in those lyrics, actually, I think she can take a bit of credit there, too. Um, it's called Monkberry Moonlight, great, and it, it, it does go on. And. And in fact, there's a bit about cats and kittens there, and it's it's a good one. So that's probably my 1st question. Has he ever smoked Monkberry Moonlight? And what the fuck do those lyrics mean? So that's my 1st question,

**[0:14:07] Amy Poehler:** okay, great.

**[0:14:08] Stella McCartney:** what is that about? My other question, which is serious, which actually? I asked my dad this the other day and I and I want to see how he answers it to you. Cause I was really surprised by the answer, like, really surprised. And so this is my gift to you, this question, which is what is your 1st memory, dad?

**[0:14:26] Amy Poehler:** ah, beautiful.

**[0:14:28] Stella McCartney:** And I really wanna know what he answers to you. Cause I was like, Wow, that's great,

**[0:14:33] Amy Poehler:** What a great question to ask someone. I think your dad will be very happy that we talked because I hope he feels like I've gotten some good advice.

**[0:14:42] Stella McCartney:** I love that you asked me. It was this. I feel very honored, like on a serious, seriously, I feel very, very honored that you asked me. Cause you, let's face it, you could've asked anyone to ask Paul McCartney a question, and everyone would have said, yes, actually, that's amazing. You asked me, Amy, thank you.

**[0:14:56] Amy Poehler:** Of course, thank you for doing it and we'd love to get you into the stewed. I have not had a designer and I feel like I would, Welcome okay, great, good,

**[0:15:06] Stella McCartney:** and good luck with that. I hope those questions are okay.

**[0:15:09] Amy Poehler:** they're perfect.

**[0:15:10] Stella McCartney:** Well, much love to you, darling, and take care. Thank you for having me.

**[0:15:13] Amy Poehler:** Thanks so much for doing it. Bye Stella, great to see you, thanks again, bye bye, bye, honey. thank you. whoopie This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate 1st could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking which group chat you're typing in before hitting send. Next thing, you know, you sent a scalding hot take about the restaurant to the group with the person who picked it. Yikes, Yeah, checking 1st is a good idea, so check Allstate 1st for an auto quote.

**[0:15:41] Amy Poehler:** It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate, North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. whoopie. Hi, Paul, Hey Amy, do you get this? A lot? Where people are kind of nervous around you and you feel the energy and you have to figure out how to make them feel less nervous. Like that must be a thing you're used to. Do you have a trick?

**[0:16:08] Paul McCartney:** no, exactly. Yeah, uh, trick, I don't know, just to kind of be normal. Um, you know, I was lucky. I was one of those guys, uh, I grew up with a kind of very normal family, you know, it was one of those families where you get past the baby and you. So, whereas I know some people when they grow up like, and they have a baby, they're like, really scared of it. It's like, Oh, no, you know, so so that I think I just use that.

**[0:16:37] Amy Poehler:** So funny. You say that because of the many things I wanna talk to you about today. You seem very comfortable around babies.

**[0:16:42] Paul McCartney:** Yeah, I I think so,

**[0:16:45] Amy Poehler:** Because that iconic photo of you, I think, with Mary in your jacket, that was so ahead of its time. Like you, a man carrying a baby, you just never see that, never saw it.

**[0:16:57] Paul McCartney:** I mean, that was just how we used to do it, you know, I used to go riding with her like that on the horse. But um, yeah,

**[0:17:06] Amy Poehler:** I mean, the 70s.

**[0:17:07] Paul McCartney:** well, she's now a mother of four boys,

**[0:17:10] Amy Poehler:** Oh man, she's busy.

**[0:17:11] Paul McCartney:** that little baby in my jacket.

**[0:17:13] Amy Poehler:** ugh. Okay, well, Paul McCartney is here. You have such a wild life and timeline that it's kind of like, intimidating to talk to you for just an hour and a half. So if you'll bear with me, I'll probably jump around a lot. Okay, and the reason why is cause I have this theory that you're a bit of a time traveler, I think. Do you believe in time travel? Oh, then forget

**[0:17:35] Paul McCartney:** do you?

**[0:17:36] Amy Poehler:** my theory a little bit. I feel like sometimes I wasn't the age that I was, I felt older or younger.

**[0:17:42] Paul McCartney:** You can see someone about that. I mean, there's, there's, there's people,

**[0:17:47] Amy Poehler:** There's professionals.

**[0:17:48] Paul McCartney:** people to talk to. No, no, I kind of know what you mean. yeah, like, I Yeah, so

**[0:17:53] Amy Poehler:** mean, I felt like, I feel like you're, uh, I don't know, you seem. You seemed when you were young that you were older, if that makes any sense.

**[0:18:03] Paul McCartney:** no, it does really. And y. I used to look at the lyrics of yesterday. I'm not half the man I used to be, suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. Well, I was like 21, so ha, half the man would put me at like about ten and a half.

**[0:18:20] Amy Poehler:** you were writing when I'm 64, when you were 20 something and you and you, you know, were considered retired at 27. When the Beatle, like, I guess I'm. I'm interested in this idea of, do you feel like you're an a? Do you feel like there's an age that you are? like, do you feel like there's an age you um, I, feel?

**[0:18:39] Paul McCartney:** I kind of, I think, like a lot of people, I mean, you, you sort of feel like you stop at about 25, so I'm 25 in my head, you know, then I look me too, in the mirror and go, No, you're not,

**[0:18:55] Amy Poehler:** yeah, me too. I feel

**[0:18:56] Paul McCartney:** you're old. this. Yeah, But uh, yeah, no, I I like that. I mean, we, we, in in the Beatles, we used to have this sort of thing. Whenever there was like a question, uh, about a piece of music or something to do, whether we go on tour or whatever. And we couldn't figure out the answer, we'd say, what would we have thought when we were 17? What would that guy have said? We're not doing it, you know, cause that guy wouldn't have let us do it.

**[0:19:27] Paul McCartney:** And as we grew up, we kind of go, Oh, okay, we'll do it. But it was better to listen to the 17 year old.

**[0:19:33] Amy Poehler:** because that 17 year old was more definitive, like more like yes and no, like more black and white.

**[0:19:38] Paul McCartney:** I think he was just more sensible and and less, um, you know, less jaded by the world. He'd kind of say, that's a terrible jacket, you know? Whereas I would kind of, you know, later, or maybe now, I'd sort of say, Yeah, it's nice jacket, or lying through my teeth,

**[0:20:01] Amy Poehler:** so totally. he wouldn't I th

**[0:20:03] Paul McCartney:** do that.

**[0:20:03] Amy Poehler:** you're right, because I think we give, uh, a lot of like credence to the fact that when you get older, you get very wise and you have all this experience. But you're right, we do forget the like, strong, truthful opinions that we have when we're young. I mean, I've, I still kind of can't believe Paul that the Beatles broke up. When you were 27, you were only together for eight years, you made 13 albums. Those numbers are are just really wild.

**[0:20:31] Amy Poehler:** It felt like when you were making music as a young person, it was like you f. You knew you were only gonna be making music with this band for that long. Is how it felt

**[0:20:41] Paul McCartney:** yeah, I don't think we knew it, but I think we we didn't expect to to go on for long because, uh, people didn't, you know, in this sort of rock and roll world. It was like, you know, five years, top whack, um, but then after five years, it was like, Oh, no, we, we, we're done. We're doing Sgt. Pepper. Oh yeah, we should probably keep going. And then, you know, we sort of did the White Album or whatever, and and then I did Wings and S and kept going, yeah.

**[0:21:15] Paul McCartney:** And you know?

**[0:21:15] Amy Poehler:** and. And. It is really interesting to talk to you because you're somebody that people feel like they know a lot about. And they feel, you know, you have been in their lives in a million different ways. I know you've been in mine my whole life and in many ways. Paul, you kind of represent music, like you represent songs, like if, uh, songs were a person, um, and we had to go to. If we had to go into space and we had to bring one person to represent songs to the aliens, we would push you to the front.

**[0:21:49] Paul McCartney:** yeah, here he is. Uh, well, thank you. When are we leaving? Let's go.

**[0:22:00] Amy Poehler:** Um, okay, so, um, I loved Morgan Neville's doc Man on the Run, a beautiful doc. Did you like it?

**[0:22:07] Paul McCartney:** yeah, I do. Yeah. I mean, when? When he showed it to me 1st off, um, I said, there's a few embarrassing bits. Should we take them out?

**[0:22:18] Amy Poehler:** fun. What was embarrassing?

**[0:22:19] Paul McCartney:** I didn't realize that the farm we lived on was like, so run down. It's a tip, you know, we were in love and we had a new baby and it was all great. And I was, you know, I could fix it up, no problem, I'll make a table, you know, it was that kind of thing, so I didn't notice. When you see it in the film, it's like, you lived there and you had some money, you chose to live in that.

**[0:22:51] Paul McCartney:** Um, so that was a little bit embarrassing. I don't know. Sometimes I don't know about you, sometimes I don't. I don't bother to think things through too seriously.

**[0:23:02] Amy Poehler:** Well, that is always what we learn about you. There's there's so many things that I appreciate about you as an artist. One is you have a sense of humor about yourself and your work, which is a sign not only of intelligence, but it just. It allows us to enjoy it in many different kinds of ways, which is so nice. And also you really let us into your process. You know, a lot of people like to keep people out of process because it keeps them mysterious or something.

**[0:23:30] Amy Poehler:** And I always felt like watching you work made me feel like I could write a song. It always made me feel connected to music. Um, and that documentary does that, it shows process, Peter Jackson's documentary, like the idea of process. And I love what you say about your work. When asked if you were a workaholic, or you consider yourself one, you say, Well, you don't work, music, what? What do you say? In response to that?

**[0:23:54] Paul McCartney:** that's right, you know, people say, Oh, you work a lot, you know, you're always working. I say, I'm, I'm not, you know, and I, I. I thought one day, well, we, we don't work music, we play music, so I'm like a playaholic. I'm definitely addicted to that, you know, cause I'm sure it's the same for you. Uh, th. I feel very lucky that this is my job, you know, cause, uh, when I, uh, left school, my like.

**[0:24:24] Paul McCartney:** My 1st job was coil winding in a factory, okay, that sounds you know,

**[0:24:30] Amy Poehler:** hot and hard. our So what did you have to do? rugged, our rugged, um, what did you have to do? Literally wind coil? yeah, yeah. So yeah, Yeah,

**[0:24:42] Paul McCartney:** if you have a big sort of s um. What? Wheel with coil wire on it comes through your legs and you put it on like an armature thing and keep winding it. And it it. It's like a thing they p have in motors. And, uh, mine weren't very good, you know? But hi, the idea was they were gonna take me through all the things and then I'd be manager. But one day, uh, John and George showed up, and, uh, and one of the guys in the factory said, There's some guys out there, you know, wanna see you?

**[0:25:18] Paul McCartney:** Like, you know? So I went out and they said, we've got a gig, we've got a gig at the Cavern. So I said, Well, I don't know, let me think about it,

**[0:25:29] Amy Poehler:** You looked at the coil.

**[0:25:30] Paul McCartney:** let me think. I looked at the coils, I looked at the pay packet seven pounds fifteen a week. God, and I can't believe I actually questioned it, but I did. I said, I'll get back to you, and yeah, and and I did. And it gave up a career in coil winding management

**[0:25:53] Amy Poehler:** you would've been the coil winding representative that we showed to the aliens if you had stuck with it.

**[0:25:58] Paul McCartney:** coil winding king.

**[0:26:00] Amy Poehler:** George was how many years younger than you, Paul?

**[0:26:02] Paul McCartney:** I think like about one and a half, and I was one and a half years younger than John.

**[0:26:07] Amy Poehler:** Yeah, did you feel, I mean, n when you're? When we're older, that means nothing, but when we're young, it's really important. Did you feel like the middle child or the younger brother to John, and did George feel like a younger brother to you?

**[0:26:20] Paul McCartney:** yeah, I. I thought of George as younger, but he was so, uh, cocky, he was, you know, you, you couldn't put George down. So he'd made himself older just by being very confident. And like, you know,

**[0:26:37] Amy Poehler:** Who is the tallest?

**[0:26:38] Paul McCartney:** we were all the same height.

**[0:26:40] Amy Poehler:** I know? Are you really? And do you, you You were?

**[0:26:42] Paul McCartney:** know, I've got a thing about that, do you?

**[0:26:44] Amy Poehler:** No, well, tell me more.

**[0:26:45] Paul McCartney:** Oh my god, well, we were all the same height. And Ringo was a bit smaller. Um, and if you look at photos, we we're all the same height. But, uh, Sam Taylor Wood did a film called No Boy and um, the John character, who she later married, Aaron, right, right. Aaron um,

**[0:27:07] Amy Poehler:** Taylor Johnson. uh, yeah, he, Yeah, he's bigger than me hm,

**[0:27:12] Paul McCartney:** in the film. My character is kind of wimpy, smaller than John. John knocks me to the floor. Uh, it's like, Sam, this is not true. And her only explanation, bless her, cause she's she's still a good friend, you know? She said. Um, this is a movie, it's not a documentary. And I thought, Hm, well, I don't like that explanation, but I couldn't do anything. Cause she'd now by now, she'd made the film. Um, and there there was I, little Paul, you know, John, the great big hero, and it's like, No, it's I can't imagine not true.

**[0:27:57] Amy Poehler:** what it's like to have people play you. I mean, it must be so strange. I mean, it's happening again. There's another film, Paul, the Great Paul Mescal is playing you based on your life, obviously not taken directly from your life, but it must be strange to have people play you.

**[0:28:13] Paul McCartney:** yeah, it is, it is. Um, and guess what, he's smaller than the guy who plays John. I said, I said, How Sam Mendes is making the film, I said, Sam, I've got just one thing I I need to say to you, you know, all's a bit small at least. Uh, so I don't know how Sam's gonna deal with it. But he, he sent me a picture, a still from the the filming whoa, they were doing, and they're crossing the Abbey Road crossing.

**[0:28:47] Amy Poehler:** yeah, I saw that too.

**[0:28:48] Paul McCartney:** And the pole actor is markedly smaller.

**[0:28:53] Amy Poehler:** And you can't put lifts on that bare feet.

**[0:28:56] Paul McCartney:** That's true. I mean, that's how he was. So I s i texted him, Sam, smaller, don't do this, you, you said you wouldn't do it. He said No, it's okay, it's just the stride pattern. And he sent me another one He's gonna where

**[0:29:11] Amy Poehler:** smush him.

**[0:29:12] Paul McCartney:** we were equal.

**[0:29:14] Amy Poehler:** But I guess the way in which you guys laughed at your competitive nature. We all, uh, as Americans especially, we love because we, we love. That's what families do, I guess, is what I'm trying to say, is families tease. And they can kind of come at each other in ways that other people can't. And that always felt like the relationship you had with all of, and and that you have with with with them. Still,

**[0:29:40] Paul McCartney:** Yeah, you know, uh, I mean, the good thing was we, we grew up together, so there was like a a family aspect. Um, me and George went to the same school, uh, and I'm John went to the art college next door, so so we all kind of, uh. And you know, it took years for us to kinda get any fame. So we were out in Hamburg, schlepping around, playing, um, you know, at not very nice little clubs.

**[0:30:13] Paul McCartney:** We enjoyed it cause we were young kids in Hamburg, you know, this, wow, I. We'd never been abroad before, you know, so that was like, but um, yeah, so that that when you know each other that well and you've been together that long, it does become like a family. So then that finds its way into your writing and and your work. You know that I can tell what he's thinking, or I can tell him that I didn't like that line, or he can tell me that sucks, you know?

**[0:30:48] Paul McCartney:** And uh, so that's very good, as you know, for for writing.

**[0:30:52] Amy Poehler:** Well, we're, and we're back to that 17 year old. Like, very blunt way of saying this is good, this is bad, you shouldn't wear that, like all that stuff, I mean. And I, and I'm sure you know that as you get any level of success, sometimes people are afraid to give you real feedback.

**[0:31:08] Paul McCartney:** yeah, that's a danger now, you know, people all say to me when I'm working with a producer, they say, Do does he tell you if it's no good? And I'm not sure,

**[0:31:21] Amy Poehler:** right. How could you know?

**[0:31:22] Paul McCartney:** you know, maybe, maybe it doesn't. Um, I know, I think you find people who who will tell you and and stuff, but it must be hard for them, you know? Uh, I think so, cause you, you've got such a reputation, um, you know, to tell you a joke isn't funny would scare me, it should. good, cause it should. good. That wasn't funny, it should. Yeah,

**[0:31:52] Amy Poehler:** yeah, I know what you mean, but you know what I'm, so I'm always so, uh, impressed by so many things that you do, Paul. But one of them is the idea of continuing, like on to the next, like, what is the next adventure? Like? You know, you, you're always looking creatively, especially for ways to just continue to be inspired and to continue to work together. You have a new record, Boys of Dungeon Lane.

**[0:32:17] Paul McCartney:** wanna hear about it?

**[0:32:18] Amy Poehler:** Yeah, I do. I'm fascinated by your process of how you make music, how you write songs.

**[0:32:22] Paul McCartney:** Uh, I think the good thing is I'm fascinated too. I don't know I. T. I do a class in my old school that me and George went to in Liverpool. Um, uh, it's called Lipa, and I go there every year and, uh, do a class with the songwriting students. And the 1st thing I say to them when they they come in one on one, so it's terrifying for them, you know,

**[0:32:50] Amy Poehler:** oh, they come in one on they come in one and they play.

**[0:32:52] Paul McCartney:** one on one with a guitar or a little piece of, you know. yeah, oh boy, And I say, I say, come and sit down and say, I'm gonna say this. I don't know how to do this, you know, I'm, I know, I'm teaching you, I've no idea how you do it. Uh, cause your song's gonna be different from mine and stuff. And then we work it through and they'll play me one of their songs. And then I will sort of say, um, that's very good.

**[0:33:22] Paul McCartney:** Or how about that? 2nd verse may be good as an opening verse, cause I think it's a bit stronger. So I just take them through sort of gentle hints, uh, but mainly they by the time they get to me, they they're pretty good, you know, they've done three years, uh, and um, I don't know how to do it, that's the point, and I don't wanna know, you know? Um, I always just sit down with a guitar or at the piano and just start plonking something.

**[0:33:55] Paul McCartney:** And um, if I find something that sounds good, I just follow that and sort of go, Oh, that's not bad, that's not bad. Where could it go next? Well, it could stay there, you know, all that stuff, really, cause, and then you, you learn in yourself. Um, the natural thing to do is you move through the chords, dun dun, you know? Um, or you can tell yourself, no, don't move, stay there, you know?

**[0:34:31] Paul McCartney:** And there's all sorts of tricks where you that you can use, and there's so many little tricks like that. It just makes it fun for me. And then if you get an a good opening line, that's a great thing, cause you kinda then know where you're going, you know? And on Dungeon Lane, there's a there's a song, um, called Days we left behind, which is special for me. And I knew I had, uh, had something when I uh, it was.

**[0:35:09] Paul McCartney:** It was looking back. I'm I'm thinking about looking back at photographs of the past, so you could say looking back at, uh, black and white photos. But I, I knew it was good when I said it, he said modestly. I said, Um, looking back at white and black, so I just the fact that I'd switched. It was no longer a black and white photo anymore, it's a bl, it's a white and black. So, and obviously it rhymes, so looking back at a white and black reminds us of the past or whatever.

**[0:35:40] Paul McCartney:** I just thought, Oh, okay, so you're looking at photos and and you go there. Just let's see what you remember, you know? And um, and it's nice. I, I have a lot of good memories.

**[0:35:56] Amy Poehler:** When you hear a song that you've written, you've written so many, do you remember the making of that song? When you hear it? do you remember the writing of it? Do you know? Like, Well,

**[0:36:07] Paul McCartney:** um, a lot of the time I do, yeah,

**[0:36:09] Amy Poehler:** yeah, the process of making it when you hear it?

**[0:36:11] Paul McCartney:** a lot of the time. Um, sometimes, though, it is crazy because they have a Beatles channel on Sirius. And um, s my, I. If I'm g, you know, hiring a car, my driver will like, he knows to have it on. Ah, you know, oh, ah, that's a good channel. But normally it's quite quiet so you can talk and things. And then I'll hear something and say, Oh, wait a minute, turn this one up. And talking about remembering writing the song, he turned one up.

**[0:36:53] Paul McCartney:** Because I couldn't remember the what the title was. I thought, Oh, what's this one? and then he played. I couldn't even remember the song it had just come and gone so fast. Um, so yeah, I don't always remember them, but a lot of them I I do. I have, uh, pretty strong memories of, yeah, like, uh, Mull of Kintyre wing song. That was that was very successful. Bag

**[0:37:22] Amy Poehler:** I l I. bagpipe. I loved p seeing that in the doc, making that like

**[0:37:27] Paul McCartney:** No, I do.

**[0:37:27] Amy Poehler:** y y watching you make that song, and also in the doc. Learning about the how, how wings came together and your intention behind bringing people together, which was really interesting. And and and for me, it was the 1st time I heard you speak about how important it was for you to feel like part of a group. Like you like being around people and you like being part of a group and ensemble. What do you like about it?

**[0:37:55] Paul McCartney:** um, I just the companionship, just the friendship, uh, and the other opinion, you know, having another opinion in the room, kind of another, uh, I like that. Um, I mainly just playing together, you know, it's like

**[0:38:12] Amy Poehler:** Do you have a pre?

**[0:38:12] Paul McCartney:** kids in kindergarten.

**[0:38:14] Amy Poehler:** Yeah, the play. The word play is back again. Like, do you have a pre show ritual? do you do anything? Always like, do you not eat 2 h before the show? do you? yeah, I don't uh, have a superstition?

**[0:38:26] Paul McCartney:** eat. uh, not really. I do have a ritual

**[0:38:31] Amy Poehler:** What is it? that that kinda Would you tell us go, what it is?

**[0:38:33] Paul McCartney:** what is it? Okay, yeah,

**[0:38:35] Amy Poehler:** Okay, here we go.

**[0:38:36] Paul McCartney:** well, I don't eat, you know, I have like lunch,

**[0:38:39] Amy Poehler:** Let's even back up further. What time are you going to bed the night before?

**[0:38:43] Paul McCartney:** but the night before, I don't know, random, Oh gosh, it doesn't matter. you musicians with I know your bedtime, I'm just a crazy you just just bunch.

**[0:38:51] Amy Poehler:** a crazy bunch.

**[0:38:52] Paul McCartney:** No, I don't. I don't think about that. That's normally, I mean, it's normally not too late, it's not too crazy. Probably if it was six zero in the morning and we'd gone right through, I probably would worry a bit. But no, it's just kind of normal bedtime, I think. And then um, yeah, I get up, I just have my breakfast,

**[0:39:11] Amy Poehler:** what's your breakfast? breakfast, How do you take your tea?

**[0:39:14] Paul McCartney:** it is, uh, it's really kind of boring, cause it's always the same. It's like cereal, bit of cereal, not too much, just a little bit. Berries, Yeah, that's the superfood, berries,

**[0:39:32] Amy Poehler:** you gotta bury it up. five raspberries, Whoa,

**[0:39:36] Paul McCartney:** gotta be five, looks good, dun dun donk donk dun. one in the middle, handful of blueberries, Oh yeah, the bluf. Just blueberries are just really, chuck them in, really. chuck them in, and a strawberry, which I cut up.

**[0:39:52] Amy Poehler:** uh huh. Meditative.

**[0:39:57] Paul McCartney:** Are we really doing this? We're gonna We are. do another hour This is,

**[0:39:59] Amy Poehler:** of this.

**[0:39:59] Paul McCartney:** this is great. Yeah, recipe

**[0:40:01] Amy Poehler:** Do you take C coffee breakfast. or tea?

**[0:40:03] Paul McCartney:** No, in the morning, uh, it's just water. Whoa, No caffeine, No, I'm not a big coffee person. I really. well, yeah, no, I'm English.

**[0:40:15] Amy Poehler:** But b uh, the tea all day long.

**[0:40:17] Paul McCartney:** a lot, a lot of people, you know, my kids drink coffee. Yeah, quite a lot. Um, I will have like one coffee in the middle of the day, some, sometimes often. Um, yeah, but so that's my breakfast. Add a few pecans and a few raisins,

**[0:40:33] Amy Poehler:** if you want a party,

**[0:40:35] Paul McCartney:** yeah, and then there's a very specific lunch, okay, let's it's a gig

**[0:40:42] Amy Poehler:** hear it. gig lunch, Oh a gi. Oh yeah, a gig you know, it's gig lunch. day lunch Yeah Yeah, for me. Um, Well, cause, I mean, being on stage, uh, I mean, I've talked to a lot of performers, uh, who just being in in front of an audience is so physical. And you have been on stage for most of your adult life in all different stages, with different types of people and in different shows.

**[0:41:06] Amy Poehler:** What is what's the thing now that you're loving about being on stage? Like, what? What does it look like to be on stage now? I mean, for example, we've got like Bruce still doing 3 h shows, we have Taylor Swift doing 3 h shows. Like a lot of expectation for people to do long shows.

**[0:41:21] Paul McCartney:** hm. I know I blame him, I've told him, I said, it's your bloody fault, mate. I know, We used to do like an hour, I know, stones still do something like an hour or so in old school. But um, no, Bruce, just suddenly doing these three 4 h things, so that's what we do.

**[0:41:42] Amy Poehler:** you do, I know.

**[0:41:44] Paul McCartney:** You know what I love, though, the audience, that's what it's all about that, uh, and my audiences, touch wood, um, are very loving, they're, they're, so it's so warm, you know, they're just so cool and all ages. That's the amazing thing. I always expected them to be my age or slightly younger or whatever. Um, but it's not like that. There's a lot of young kids. yeah. Well, And, uh,

**[0:42:17] Amy Poehler:** you're every favorite artist's favorite artist you are, and and and I. Is there any music right now that you listen to and you think, I wish I wrote that very good,

**[0:42:32] Paul McCartney:** no, not, not really. There there are some people I think are really good. Um, you know, like Billie Eilish, I think is cool, but I don't think I want to have written her songs. And also a lot of songs these days are breakup songs and I'm married, right, you're so it in love with don't don't a beautiful woman, and hm,

**[0:42:57] Amy Poehler:** you're in love with a beautiful woman and you have a fantastic breakfast. So yeah, yeah,

**[0:43:06] Paul McCartney:** um, that's true. No, so, uh, no, the I don't think there there used to be songs like I used to wanna have written, um, one of Billy Joel's songs, The way you are. I always thought that was like the kind of thing I could have written. I think that's a nice song. Nowadays. It's, uh, I'll tell you what, so some of them are like, um, very, uh, banal. I want your ooh, ooh, I want it, ooh, ooh, ha ha.

**[0:43:47] Paul McCartney:** This could be a hit and then you go. But you, then you gotta do the moves and oh, oh,

**[0:43:52] Amy Poehler:** you gotta do the TikTok

**[0:43:54] Paul McCartney:** trust, trust.

**[0:43:54] Amy Poehler:** dance with it. Yeah, yeah, this from the this, from the man that gave us she loves you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean,

**[0:44:03] Paul McCartney:** all right. Joss protest, hm,

**[0:44:06] Amy Poehler:** Um, I'm. I bet you've been able to collaborate with mostly everybody that you've wanted to collaborate at some point. Is there anybody that you still wish to collaborate with?

**[0:44:15] Paul McCartney:** um, no. I get asked this question and I always think Bob Dylan, but I'm too nervous to to ring him up. Bob, but it is Paul. yeah. I Um,

**[0:44:32] Amy Poehler:** can't even picture him being on the telephone, Bob, I can't actually picture no, he's in him. Using. some bush somewhere, Yeah, he's in a bush. Exactly. he's, he's, Yep, he's writing in a journal.

**[0:44:41] Paul McCartney:** you know, in in a sleeping bag. Maybe, um,

**[0:44:46] Amy Poehler:** Who was the 1st famous person that you met um, 1st famous person when you were young

**[0:44:51] Paul McCartney:** like that. starting out? Who was Um,

**[0:44:53] Amy Poehler:** do you remember? Did you meet someone who you wanted their autograph, or you were blown away that you knew that they were a famous person? the Queen, Whoa,

**[0:45:03] Paul McCartney:** and that's an autograph you're not gonna get now. She's great, I love the Queen.

**[0:45:09] Amy Poehler:** I love the Queen too.

**[0:45:10] Paul McCartney:** I, I really, yeah, well, you Let's know, what happened

**[0:45:12] Amy Poehler:** talk about the Queen.

**[0:45:13] Paul McCartney:** was she, she was crowned, she's, she's a doll. She was crowned, um, when I was eleven, so and she was a babe, you know, when w I was eleven, she was like 23 or something, you know? So we all used to think, Wow, this is amazing, you know? Like, you know, having a king, cause he's got this girl, this babe. So we kind of liked her in other ways than we shouldn't have liked her. You know what I mean?

**[0:45:48] Paul McCartney:** So yeah, so so meeting her was special.

**[0:45:51] Amy Poehler:** How old were you when you met her?

**[0:45:53] Paul McCartney:** Um, probably about 21 or something. Nancy, my wife, now, she says she fancied you now. There's no knowing if there's any truth to that, but But let's you know, women, just say it's she's just the way. Yeah, yeah,

**[0:46:07] Amy Poehler:** let's say it's true.

**[0:46:08] Paul McCartney:** I like to think it's true.

**[0:46:09] Amy Poehler:** And I think she would, uh uh, not to speak for the Queen, but I will. I would think she would enjoy Nancy saying that, I think she would. She would get a laugh out of that, like she would enjoy that.

**[0:46:20] Paul McCartney:** well, she was a laugh. No, that's what I. One of the things I liked about her, she was had a good sense of humor. And, uh, yeah, I was. I was very happy that. Um, you know, sometimes you don't get the Queen if you're getting an honour, like you're getting a knighthood, you don't always get the Queen. I was very lucky I got the Queen all the time. And Well, she made um,

**[0:46:42] Amy Poehler:** sure she was there.

**[0:46:43] Paul McCartney:** wow, well, that's what Nancy She looked at would say.

**[0:46:46] Amy Poehler:** her, she looked at Nan's nose, she looked at her planner and she was like, Hm, two, 00:00. I'm gonna make myself available,

**[0:46:53] Paul McCartney:** I'll do him.

**[0:46:55] Amy Poehler:** I'm gonna put the so I'll do the sword thing. That's what she said.

**[0:46:58] Paul McCartney:** The sword was Edward the Confessor.

**[0:47:02] Amy Poehler:** The name of the sword.

**[0:47:03] Paul McCartney:** Yeah, I mean, British history, there was a king called Edward the Confessor. At least it wasn't Ethelred the Unready.

**[0:47:14] Amy Poehler:** But talk about again, like time travel, which you don't believe in, but I believe in for you. But you're 21, you meet the Queen, just speed, you know, however many years later, and you're getting knighted by her. Such a wild life, yeah, I know, Paul.

**[0:47:30] Paul McCartney:** I know, no, really. Um, and believe me, I, I, I agree with that. yeah, and I mean, and I mean, life itself anyway, for for most people is wild, yes, life is wild, but

**[0:47:42] Amy Poehler:** no matter what.

**[0:47:43] Paul McCartney:** my particular kind of life has been very wild. Uh, to this point, and continues to be. Well, look at me here, I'm doing your show.

**[0:47:53] Amy Poehler:** it's like the Queen, it's like This, this is, being with the Queen.

**[0:47:55] Paul McCartney:** it's not, it's not quite Queen level. No, not quite I mean, yet, not quite it's very impressive.

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**[0:50:00] Amy Poehler:** also. And then I'll, and then I'll move off of this th this theme that I'm very clumsily trying to to connect. But what I also I love about your work. Chrissy Hinde says this in the in the documentary about you, Um, what can we just talk about Chrissy Hinde We for a 2nd?

**[0:50:16] Paul McCartney:** love Chrissy, she's a dude.

**[0:50:20] Amy Poehler:** Tell me how you met Chris, you and Linda were really good friends with Chrissy. Tell us how you met Chrissy Hinde. in What a g genius.

**[0:50:26] Paul McCartney:** a recording studio in London, where, um, Air London it was called, and there were a lot of studios. So you meet the people who are in the other studios, you know? And she was just walking down a corridor and she was very moody, with her hair down and sort of wouldn't look at you, you know, and but uh, Linda was, didn't, you know, do that? She would a approach you, Hi, how you doing, you know? And they got talking and they, and, uh, so we met her, and and Chrissie s stopped being so moody and just talked to us.

**[0:51:05] Paul McCartney:** And and we had a lot of stuff in common. She's like, uh, crazy vegetarian, so we had that in common. And uh, Linda was very outspoken on on that subject. Um, to the point where, uh, if it hadn't been her, it would have been, uh, embarrassing. You know, if you're at a dinner party and someone's eating meat, she would like give him trouble over it. You know, you know what you're eating? Yeah, well, I know, you know, but uh, his mommy loved it, and she was ahe, ahea, ahead of barmy, barmy.

**[0:51:47] Paul McCartney:** her time. I ev Yeah,

**[0:51:48] Amy Poehler:** the a a very ahead you were both ahead of

**[0:51:51] Paul McCartney:** yeah. She had this kind of Disneyesque view of animals, so that, um, if if we saw like a frog in in a garden or something, she'd pick it up. And you know, not every girl would, you know, she, she'd pick it up. And the way it's getting emotional now, but the way she would hold it, um, it wouldn't hurt it. Um, and yeah, so yeah, beautiful, she, and she would say, you know, its mommy loved it, and even it's a frog.

**[0:52:30] Paul McCartney:** She was like a Disney frog to her.

**[0:52:33] Amy Poehler:** I loved learning more about you and Linda in that documentary. I loved watching you you two work together and be together. It's it was really a testament to just what R respectful, beautiful, mutual love looks like.

**[0:52:49] Paul McCartney:** yeah, she was, she was something else, a tough, tough lady,

**[0:52:55] Amy Poehler:** yeah, look, I have good hand tissues.

**[0:52:57] Paul McCartney:** a good thank you, ma'am, yeah,

**[0:53:01] Amy Poehler:** Um, I wanna talk about your family life, um, and just how family is important to you, because I have the pleasure and privilege of getting to know some of your family. Um, but as we move off the Beatles, although we never will, but as we move off the Beatles for this conversation, what is your relationship now like with George and John and Ringo? Some are here, some are not, but relationships, as we know, with Linda, like people that with your mom, people that you lose, they're always with you, they just your relationship changes with them.

**[0:53:36] Amy Poehler:** What is your relationship now like with those men?

**[0:53:39] Paul McCartney:** Um, I'm a fan, you know, and the more we go on, I'm a bigger fan. I'm like a Beatles fan, you know? Um, just cause, like, I say, you know, I'll just hear something that we did. Uh, and I'll remember writing it with John and think, Wow, I was really lucky, you know, this is amazing. I'm sitting down with writing with someone and he happens to be John Lennon, um, and I think the same for him, with me.

**[0:54:11] Paul McCartney:** He's sitting down and the the guy who's talking about his work is me. Um, so, yeah, so I'm, I'm a fan, um, and, uh, you know, I I think I've become more of a fan the more I think about them. And, uh, yeah, you know, George, for instance, the how I met George was on the school bus. I used to get on one stop, these big D double decker green buses. Um, we. It was about a half hour journey into from where we lived to the school.

**[0:54:48] Paul McCartney:** So I would get on at one stop and then the next stop, george would get on. And we wore the same school uniform, so we we kind of could relate some way. And sometimes we sit next to each other and, uh, we talk about guitars and rock and roll. It's in one of the songs on the The John Lennon album, actually.

**[0:55:08] Amy Poehler:** oh, really.

**[0:55:08] Paul McCartney:** Um, yeah, there's one song called Down South, and it's, uh, it's about how we met, uh, on, you know, the school bus. And we talked about rock and roll and guitars and all that sort of stuff. Um, so that was great, you know, we became friends over that. And then when, uh, we were looking for another guitar player, John was kind of interested in getting another guy in. I put George up and I sort of said, I've got this little mate, you know, he's little.

**[0:55:41] Paul McCartney:** He wasn't physically little, but he's young, you know? And that could be a problem, but it wasn't a problem and he played great guitar. John was so impressed, and so George joined the the group, so that was that period. But then look at George's life and how he grew. And my gosh, you know, I became spiritual. Um, it was was pretty amazing.

**[0:56:10] Amy Poehler:** Do you have a spiritual practice, Paul? Do you feel like you're a spiritual person?

**[0:56:14] Paul McCartney:** Um, I don't have like a practice so much. I meditate, um, and no, I sort of believe in a in a power. I don't know what he or she is, but I know there's something there and I feel, um, and I often do that thing, you know, the secret. oh yeah. I Hey,

**[0:56:37] Amy Poehler:** got really into that for a minute. yeah, well, I still I

**[0:56:41] Paul McCartney:** still enjoy it.

**[0:56:41] Amy Poehler:** mean, you probably were on my vision board and here I am talking I, I, to you.

**[0:56:45] Paul McCartney:** I just know the simple version.

**[0:56:47] Amy Poehler:** Yeah, yeah, but Paul, we feel that in your art, like the the idea that you're tuning into a channel, like an open channel. And it's not optimism, which it kind of flattens it out. It's just the idea of like, there's possibility, it's gotta keep yourself open to possibilities. I feel that way when you talk about your work, and I do feel that way when you talk about your family, like you, family was so important to you.

**[0:57:11] Amy Poehler:** Building one, whether it be with people you're playing with, with the people in your life. Like I, I, I love that you've let us into how the you know, you believe in l love like you're you, you.

**[0:57:25] Paul McCartney:** I do.

**[0:57:25] Amy Poehler:** You do believe in love and and you and you can tell by how you live your life. And congratulations to you and Linda for raising great kids, really talented, kind, funny kids, uh, really great children.

**[0:57:40] Paul McCartney:** well, thank you. Yeah, no, they they are great, you know, it's important to me. And the thing is, you know, I'm not really that different from a lot of dads. There's a lot of people out Yeah, I there. I mean, okay, I hear there's the, there's the the people.

**[0:57:55] Amy Poehler:** but you also choose very strong women. Yeah, that's You like, you true, I do, like strong, independent I do. women. Yeah, That's not always the case with men that are as successful and talented and powerful as yourself. That's not always the case. Sometimes they, uh, they don't like to be challenged in that way.

**[0:58:13] Paul McCartney:** it's funny. I. I don't think of it like that, but it is true. Um, yeah, I like someone who's got a strong opinion.

**[0:58:22] Amy Poehler:** Well, we spoke to somebody who has a strong opinion. Um, because we always do this thing on our podcast where we speak to somebody who knows our guest and who wants to give me a question to ask. Uh, uh, my guest and I. We could have spoken to so many people, but I really wanted to speak to Stella. Tell us about Stella.

**[0:58:42] Paul McCartney:** Stella's a pistol. She is, Linda had Mary and that was straightforward, and so then, uh, Linda was pregnant again with Stella and um, went to the hospital for for to be born. And then suddenly there was like a thing going on, um, where the doctors, it's a thing called placenta previa,

**[0:59:09] Amy Poehler:** oh yes, of course.

**[0:59:10] Paul McCartney:** you know about that?

**[0:59:11] Amy Poehler:** No, it can be very dangerous.

**[0:59:12] Paul McCartney:** And the doctor said, So we're gonna have to do a C section and he was cesarean, so he's like, Oh, okay, so, um, he did it and it was successful and it worked. But it meant that, uh, Stella had to be in an incubator and she was little. And uh, so I would go down a couple of floors to where the incubator unit was and I would see our baby. And um, then go back up and report to Linda, you know?

**[0:59:43] Paul McCartney:** And, uh, it was amazing, cause so Stella did a little movement and it was exactly like Linda, but she didn't know Linda yet.

**[0:59:55] Amy Poehler:** yeah, wild.

**[0:59:56] Paul McCartney:** She hadn't, she hadn't, uh, learned any tricks, so it was really just, you know, a natural thing. So I got running back up. I said, Stella, just do that thing and I know that thing from you, you know? So, uh, and so Stella, we talk about it quite a bit Well, Stella's then.

**[1:00:14] Amy Poehler:** question for me to ask you, which is amazing that you're telling this story, Paul, because she said, Ask my dad what his, what his 1st memory was. We spoke about it the other day and I, and he remembered his 1st memory because Stella shared that. She thinks one of her 1st memories was being in an incubator. She can feel like, and I know a lot of people, ha, have memories of when they were born, or feel like they do.

**[1:00:45] Amy Poehler:** And how you come into the world can really, in some ways, define your life's path. You can become like a fighter or a survivor, or you wanna be more sleepy and peaceful, whatever is the way that you come into the world. But she shared that as her 1st 1st memory, and the question she wanted me to ask you was, What was yours?

**[1:01:05] Paul McCartney:** yeah. Um, you know, these things, you don't know if you've made it up or or if it's. But I, I have this feeling that I can remember being born. I was born in a place in Liverpool called Walton Hospital, which was a real old Victorian thing. I I think it had been something else before a hospital. Uh, so I, I kind of remember white tiles, you know, very sort of hygienic white tiles and um, chrome instruments and a clanging.

**[1:01:40] Paul McCartney:** Uh, because I was, uh, a forceps birth, they had to pull me out.

**[1:01:46] Amy Poehler:** me too. I was a forceps Were you birth. Yep, I had give it a dents in my head.

**[1:01:49] Paul McCartney:** give it a go, forceps people?

**[1:01:52] Amy Poehler:** they had to yank me out, I wouldn't come out.

**[1:01:55] Paul McCartney:** yeah, it was too good in there, you know, this is okay, I'm getting fed.

**[1:02:00] Amy Poehler:** totally. And then all of a sudden somebody came in there and clamped your head and yanked you out.

**[1:02:05] Paul McCartney:** and I, I came. I love that you were too. yeah, I was Uh, yeah, so I sort of think I remember that. how funny. That's I don't know if it's true.

**[1:02:19] Amy Poehler:** the other question that she had was, What is Monkberry Moon Delight? and have you smoked it? I And what were you on when you wrote that song?

**[1:02:30] Paul McCartney:** I probably was on something that I smoked, but um, no, uh, when when the kids were little, you know how kids don't always, can't pronounce certain words well, uh, the word for milk was monk, you know, can I have? can I have? daddy? can I have some monk? Um, so that was milk, so I was thinking of a a s a milkshake, so it was like, Mil milk, berry monk, berry moon. So it's the name of a milkshake in my head, you know, I just imagined it that, uh, and then I just flew off on one, uh, cause the the lyrics are crazy, those, yeah, great.

**[1:03:15] Amy Poehler:** they're great lyrics.

**[1:03:16] Paul McCartney:** Yeah, there was I with a piano up my nose Soup and the wind puree. Um, soup and puree

**[1:03:23] Amy Poehler:** yeah, soup. cats and kittens puree.

**[1:03:26] Paul McCartney:** don't get left behind. Yes, ketchup, I know, ketchup, ketchup. I know. It's just like a lot of wordplay and stuff. But I look back on that kind of song and think, I, I've, I wish I wrote those now, you know, I think it was just zany period. Um, yeah, but that's, that's what it was in my mind. It's actually a milkshake.

**[1:03:50] Amy Poehler:** So the last section I wanna talk to you about is your connection to S N L. Because of the many things that you entered in in my life, I mean, you were also connected to the show. One of the shows that shaped my life when I was learning what I wanted to do with my life, you know, Saturday Night Live was such a huge part of my world. And the fact that you and Lorne and just the Beatles, like they always felt like they were, it felt like you guys were hanging around all the time.

**[1:04:21] Amy Poehler:** And you do go to the show quite a bit, and you've been on the show quite a bit. And I mean, there's just so many incredible moments on that show. I mean, I, I. When I was preparing for this interview, I was thinking about the Chris Farley Hush moment, which no one's seen. It's an incredible sketch where Chris Farley is interviewing you and he does. What I'm sure most people do is he just tells you what you've done.

**[1:04:47] Amy Poehler:** And um, do he's so you?

**[1:04:49] Paul McCartney:** good, wasn't he?

**[1:04:49] Amy Poehler:** so good?

**[1:04:50] Paul McCartney:** I think the 1st time I was introduced to him was John, who was living in New York and, uh, who, you know, loved S N L. And it was around that time when Lorne had come on and offered us $3,000 to to perform. Cause, uh, you know, everyone was offering a million. Uh, for to get back together.

**[1:05:11] Amy Poehler:** and he holds up a cheque.

**[1:05:12] Paul McCartney:** And he's got a little cheque from. Which apparently was what they would have paid us. N B. C

**[1:05:18] Amy Poehler:** and I love you. You've SP spoken on this that you all considered it for a 2nd. I mean, you were in New York, you were Perfor Wings was performing. Just me and John, Yeah,

**[1:05:27] Paul McCartney:** we were at his A place in in New York, and he said, Have you seen this show? I said, No, he said, Well, this guy comes on, he's, and he's offering us. And and John said, we should go down now, cause it was it was on live and and said, go and surprise him. So for a second, we were gonna do that, but then it was like, No, it's much too comfortable here. Let's just watch it.

**[1:05:55] Amy Poehler:** yeah, it's eleven, thirty.

**[1:05:56] Paul McCartney:** So we, we watched it, but, uh, so I think that was the 1st time I'd seen the show and then sort of realised why everyone was massive fans of it and why it was such an American institution. I mean, I love being included in sketches, you know, I like doing the music, Be careful but

**[1:06:17] Amy Poehler:** saying that, cause they're gonna keep writing you in. I don't mind, Yeah, you like

**[1:06:21] Paul McCartney:** I don't mind.

**[1:06:21] Amy Poehler:** it, you like it.

**[1:06:22] Paul McCartney:** Yeah, um, I was like a garage guy, a a mechanic and the last one I did, uh, with Marcelo and Will Ferrell.

**[1:06:33] Amy Poehler:** mm-hmm. What was it like working with Marcelo? Just kidding, um, and then, um, yoga also the one boys.

**[1:06:40] Paul McCartney:** I did with Marty Shaw Oh, Marty, with Marty Shaw. That's oh God, he's, he's so he's so great. great, We were, we were actually a year ago, we were actually having dinner. Um, it was me, uh, Lorne, Jimmy Fallon, and we. Martin was going to come to dinner with us, but he was late. So we're all sitting in the thing and the re restaurant's crowded, you know? And then Martin comes in f from left and he's walking through and he's pretending he doesn't know where we are.

**[1:07:14] Paul McCartney:** He, he's seen us and he's go, oh, oh, excuse me, oh sorry. And he's bumping into tables and he's doing that whole bit of his, you know, Oh, there you are.

**[1:07:27] Amy Poehler:** so funny, hysterical. Hysterical, you know, Okay, quick, uh uh, rapid fire. We're gonna get you out of here, okay? So rapid fire time. Best decade for music? sixties If you were an animal, what animal would you be? horse, Why

**[1:07:41] Paul McCartney:** cause I love horses.

**[1:07:43] Amy Poehler:** do you think you've lived before? Yeah, possibly And who were you?

**[1:07:47] Paul McCartney:** me, King Castle, the Unready. Ha Ha.

**[1:07:54] Amy Poehler:** Um, uh, do you have a favorite song you've ever written?

**[1:07:57] Paul McCartney:** Yeah, here, there and everywhere. I like that song.

**[1:08:02] Amy Poehler:** okay, Nancy's favorite song of yours?

**[1:08:05] Paul McCartney:** Days we left behind off the new album.

**[1:08:08] Amy Poehler:** fantastic. Last concert you went to?

**[1:08:11] Paul McCartney:** Think it was brandy carlisle. Hm, she's, Hm,

**[1:08:15] Amy Poehler:** she was in here. How talented is she? yeah, she's Um,

**[1:08:19] Paul McCartney:** a really very nice girl, too.

**[1:08:21] Amy Poehler:** there just must be a feeling when you meet songwriters, right? There just must be a feeling of like, Oh, we know each other.

**[1:08:27] Paul McCartney:** we know how to do this, yeah, even though we don't know how to do it, but we, we've done it. yeah, we've done Yeah, hm,

**[1:08:34] Amy Poehler:** it. I mean, I felt that way. Even when I watched Get Back and I wa when I was watching you, uh, uh, write that song, for example, and the process of writing it and being together. And you were doing to me what looked like what we would do in a comedy writers room. Which is you work a little bit and then you fuck around a lot. Because you can only kind of, like, think of something original for a few minutes.

**[1:08:58] Amy Poehler:** And then you have to, like, play other people's songs and like, goof around. I mean, you were doing bits basically with each other. That was a way to get offline, to get back into, like, your creative space. And it was, it was like a process that felt like, oh, this is what process looks like.

**[1:09:12] Paul McCartney:** yeah, that's what we. We've been mates for years, so, you know, you, you goof around, John would pick up something, you know? I remember, um, she came in through the bathroom window, one of my songs, and, uh, I'm Tuesdays on, uh, Mondays on the phone to Tuesday or whatever. It just so Tuesdays on the phone to me, I think, was the line. So I start going, Hello, Tuesday, all right, darling, and then John picks it up, he's on the piano, going, All right, Tuesday.

**[1:09:44] Paul McCartney:** And he starts doing Tuesday and we were talking to Tuesday. Um, so, yeah, that the the we could do that cause we we'd hung out a lot. I mean, we went hitchhiking together and things, you know, so we would sleep together. And and, and, um, that makes you kind of, you know, quite intimate with each other.

**[1:10:07] Amy Poehler:** yeah. Well, just getting to see the way you work together feels like they're anybody who's in some kind of creative space, working with somebody else. They they felt like they understood what that feeling is like. This idea that it you kinda talked about it earlier, that there's just some kind of magic you're supposed to make space for and room for. And if you're lucky, it comes in, and if you're even luckier, you get to make it.

**[1:10:32] Amy Poehler:** And then, if you're the luckiest, people love it.

**[1:10:34] Paul McCartney:** that's true. I think if you love it, people probably will.

**[1:10:40] Amy Poehler:** Well, I feel like I'll end by saying, Paul, that the the thing that I feel like you taught me as an artist, uh, n knowing you for my entire life, not knowing you, but knowing your work is that love is really, that's, that's the thing. Like, it's like, loss is inevitable, change is inevitable, life is wild, but if you can keep kind of heading towards the love part, um, you're headed in the right direction. Thank you for that.

**[1:11:13] Paul McCartney:** that's all you need. No, I agree, it's. It's, uh, you know, and, uh, yeah, I will own up to being a romantic. I love it, I love films where it's romantic. I'm not a big fan of, like, uh, shoot em ups.

**[1:11:30] Amy Poehler:** do you like horror movies? Me neither. And And you know, I really let's take a minute.

**[1:11:35] Paul McCartney:** don't get it. I, I, yeah, Zombies,

**[1:11:37] Amy Poehler:** forget zombies.

**[1:11:40] Paul McCartney:** you know, I mean, people love that. It's like,

**[1:11:42] Amy Poehler:** I, I've never watched. not very keen No,

**[1:11:45] Paul McCartney:** on zombies.

**[1:11:46] Amy Poehler:** I've said this before, but if there was a zombie apocalypse, I would immediately just take a pill and go to sleep forever. There's no way I would ever att like, fight a zombie.

**[1:11:55] Paul McCartney:** no, well, I'd fight it for you.

**[1:11:58] Amy Poehler:** Thank you, Paul. Argh, get You're so out of here, darling. Okay, so what is making you laugh right now? As we end anything? Uh, it's making do. What do you?

**[1:12:08] Paul McCartney:** me laugh.

**[1:12:08] Amy Poehler:** What do you watch to giggle?

**[1:12:11] Paul McCartney:** Um, yeah, I don't. Films and things,

**[1:12:14] Amy Poehler:** Like, what? What do you think is funny? Well, w Let's watch a video together as we end.

**[1:12:18] Paul McCartney:** my favorite year. Oh, Peter O'Toole, Yeah, I thought that was funny.

**[1:12:24] Amy Poehler:** love that movie. I haven't seen it in so

**[1:12:26] Paul McCartney:** No, that's what I mean. long. I asked someone, What their favorite film was, and they come up with that one. Oh, I love that It's like, Yeah, film. it's a great film.

**[1:12:33] Amy Poehler:** Um, for people who don't remember that, that was a A A 80s comedy. Oh yeah, he, Peter O'Toole plays like a actor who's on a variety show, right?

**[1:12:43] Paul McCartney:** Yeah, he was like, he's a he's a has been and he gets drunk all the time.

**[1:12:49] Amy Poehler:** that's right.

**[1:12:49] Paul McCartney:** And the young guys, uh, put in charge of him.

**[1:12:53] Amy Poehler:** There was a big stretch in the 80s where all the characters were really drunk, like Arthur, my favorite. There's a quite a a bunch where, like the the the lead was like falling down drunk. And and we were like, that's hilarious. Okay, let's watch just the trailer of my favorite year before we end.

**[1:13:15] Speaker 6:** It was the year Hollywood's greatest heroes swashbuckled his way onto live T V and into Benji's life. Best day of my life.

**[1:13:25] Amy Poehler:** I mean, this looks like, um, He was dead, swung Monty Python

**[1:13:28] Speaker 6:** from a noose in a on hospital. Or it's you or Nick. They've asked me to stay with you and help you over some of the rough spots, like showing up. That's one. Another is not passing out on the Peter O'Toole passing floor. out. he's good, That's two.

**[1:13:42] Amy Poehler:** God, Peter O'Toole is good.

**[1:13:43] Speaker 6:** Must continue.

**[1:13:45] Amy Poehler:** Well, Paul McCartney, I could talk to you all day. you may, I, I. I really, Amy. really, really appreciate you being here. It's a

**[1:13:53] Paul McCartney:** It was good fun.

**[1:13:53] Amy Poehler:** total thrill to talk to you.

**[1:13:55] Paul McCartney:** It was good fun.

**[1:13:56] Amy Poehler:** How did we do? We did? Okay,

**[1:13:57] Paul McCartney:** We did, I think we did great. I mean, all Yeah, I, I enjoyed it.

**[1:14:01] Amy Poehler:** all right, good. Thanks, Paul, thanks for doing this.

**[1:14:06] Paul McCartney:** thanks, Amy.

**[1:14:07] Amy Poehler:** Okay, you're excused.

**[1:14:09] Paul McCartney:** You bet yes, miss, thank you.

**[1:14:15] Amy Poehler:** Thank you, Paul McCartney. Um, I, I don't know what to say. It was. It was a complete thrill to talk to you and what an incredible conversation. And, you know, for this polar plunge, I just I feel the need to call my mother and tell her that I just interviewed Paul McCartney. So if you will indulge me, um, listeners, I have not told my mom or my dad that I'm interviewing, uh, Paul, um, uh, because they can't be trusted with that information.

**[1:14:44] Amy Poehler:** But um, I'm gonna facetime, uh, my mom right now and see if, uh, we can get a real time, a real time response. Now she text Hello, Yes, Hi, um, I you're w. Can you hear me? yeah, you're on the uh, in the uh podcast I'm I'm doing the podcast right now, so your voices are gonna be recorded. Is that okay? Do I have your legal consent? depends on how I feel. It went Okay, let me talk to mom.

**[1:15:16] Amy Poehler:** Okay, me too. um, guess who I just interviewed? Mom, who would be your favorite person? Oh my god, Who is the most excited person you've ever met when you came to S N L? Oh Paul McCartney, I just interviewed Paul McCartney, No sir, I did, I just interviewed Paul McCartney. yeah,

**[1:15:42] Guest:** my God.

**[1:15:42] Amy Poehler:** your mother brags about the

**[1:15:44] Guest:** Did you mention my name?

**[1:15:45] Amy Poehler:** time she brags about the time he knocked on your door at S N L and said, Oh, I like your daughter.

**[1:15:54] Guest:** Yeah, he said, Are you And Amy's mother?

**[1:15:55] Amy Poehler:** That's and I right, that's and Eileen right. said, Oh, Sir, Paul,

**[1:15:59] Guest:** Hello, Sir Paul.

**[1:16:00] Amy Poehler:** Okay, mom, but, you know, as I wrap up this this episode, what is the memory you have of of, like, how important were the Beatles to you?

**[1:16:10] Guest:** Oh, it's. It was unbelievable. My big memory is the 1st time they played on, uh, Ed Sullivan,

**[1:16:16] Amy Poehler:** Ed Sullivan show. With their long hair,

**[1:16:18] Guest:** they and and you, um, my father said, Look at those guys with that long hair, but I, yeah, I, I liked them immediately. Yeah, I went to s, went to see them, I think with

**[1:16:29] Amy Poehler:** didn't you go to in Linds somewhere?

**[1:16:30] Guest:** No. That was the Rolling Stones, not the No. I never saw them.

**[1:16:35] Amy Poehler:** You never saw them, you just saw the Rolling Stones. I just, Yeah, No, but he made a joke to Eileen about, Didn't I see you in the 4th row

**[1:16:43] Guest:** oh yeah, he said, Were you in at the uh,

**[1:16:44] Amy Poehler:** 1960? Okay, I gotta go, I got okay, I gotta go. Okay, I love you guys. I wanted to tell you that I just interviewed Paul McCartney.

**[1:16:53] Guest:** cool, I'm so psyched.

**[1:16:55] Amy Poehler:** Nice, All right, love you guys, Okay, hon, I'll keep track of his numbers and see if he beats out, uh, Paul Rudd, he's coming for you, Rudd. All right, all right, okay, love you guys.

**[1:17:09] Guest:** okay, hon.

**[1:17:10] Amy Poehler:** Bye. Thanks everybody. Thanks for listening to Good Hang and we'll see you soon. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Aleya Zenieris, Bridget Geerlings, Paige Garbarini, Belle Roman and Drew Van Steenbergen. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weiss-Berman.

**[1:17:41] Amy Poehler:** Original music by Amy Miles. I don't ever wanna miss a really good thing.

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