Sandra Bullock

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PayPal Inc. NMLS 910457. Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Good Hang Boy. We are excited about our guest today. She's a gigantic movie star and an incredible talent, and it's the one, the only. Sandra Bullock. Sandy Bullock is here today and we talk about so many things. We're gonna get into it. We're gonna talk about, um, her love of physical comedy. We're gonna find out her favorite German word, and I'm gonna try to guess what it means.

We're gonna talk about, uh, what a nightmare it is to stand next to Nicole Kidman on a red carpet, and we are gonna talk about her new movie. Practical Magic Two out this week, it is great, check it out. She is incredible. We are lucky to have her. And we always do this at the beginning of our episodes. We talk well behind our guests back, and we find somebody who knows our guest and wants to give me a question to ask them.

So we are joined today by two of her co stars from practical magic, who play her daughters in the film and great, incredibly talented actresses in their own right. Joey King and Maisie Williams. Hello ladies. This episode is brought to you by Uber. You know, those little choices you make that give you more comfort throughout the day, like planning your outfit the night before, sharing your location with a friend when heading home late, taking the actual lunch break away from your desk.

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door, right? Someone just rang Why are you my doorbell.

standing in your door? Wait, take us with you. Who is it?

My hus, my husband's answering, You know what? I think? I think it's part of his anniversary present. I got him just arrived right right at this moment.

Oh my gosh, what did you get him? Tell us, we won't tell anyone. Okay,

I got, cause it's our three year wedding anniversary. Keith's right over there. You're gonna hear what I got. It's fine, just go in the other room and wait. La La. I'm like, Oh my god, three years of leather, so I got him a really nice like leather carry on. Like,

And someone's delivering it to the house, that's that's fancy.

Well, well, I had it shipped, cause

Oh, okay, okay, so it's just it's someone who shipped it. Okay, got it. I'm not I thought it, I online. thought it was like a white glove service, where, like a a butler, is delivering a a leather case.

I, I want my bag to have a butler.

Okay, I'm sorry, I'm. I'm sorry if we ruined the surprise, but that was exci. We get excited when somebody rings the, I mean, I'm sorry who?

someone rang the doorbell.

but who rings a doorbell anymore? Like, there's no like. We had this happen on on the show when when we were with, um, Rachel Dratch. Pagerbrush Yeah, I Yes, right. know Amy, Winehouse, Amy I Winehouse. like oh my god,

the the best I I w. That clip comes up on my feed all the time and I watch it just I watch it full through every time I see it.

Joey King, Maisie Williams. I just wanna say I love and have watched everything you guys have done. When I saw that you were in this in practical magic two, when I saw that you were the the daughters in in the film, I was like, Okay, okay, we're going heavy hitter here. We've got a four top, a real heavy four top Oh my with Nicole god, and Sandy and you two. I'm like, incredible, oh my god, also, you're crushing it on TikTok.

We love making TikToks.

we really do. TikToks are so good Oh my god. It makes me so like I feel I'm like blushing that you watch them.

now. Joey, you've been, you've been on TikTok for a a minute.

Me, Yeah, I've been, I've been there from You the beginning, you were, I've been there a while.

you were there before Covid, I believe, which is,

The B the birth, uh, my sister got me on TikTok, I remember, to promote one of the kissing booth movies. She was like, you gotta get on TikTok and start dancing. And I was like, you're darn right, soldier, I was like, whatever you say,

yep, and now here we are. I feel like I've been watching you guys do press for this movie and it's been very cool to watch. Not only, like I've said, very talented women, get to do, um, something very special together, but it does feel like you have all really enjoyed working together.

Yeah, it was so much fun, it was. it's kind of crazy. It was a year ago to the date that we finished. I think, right, Joey,

you're right.

Yeah, it was so. We spent the whole summer together. It was beautiful. And then doing all this press together has just been like such a dream. Just a lot of giggling, it's actually. Yeah,

so much, so much giggling. Maisie's like my favorite woman ever. So this has just been like the greatest joy to make such a close friend through this film. That's all about sisterhood. Oh, every, you know, they always are like, what spell would you cast in press? if if you could cast one spell? And my answer every time is like, I just want Maisie to live closer to me.

that would be so nice, living in LA. and there hanging we were literally out.

in the waiting room to come on here. And we're just like texting, like, we just can't stop, we can't stop communicating.

Maisie, play your cards right and a leather briefcase will be hand delivered to your door in just a few years. Okay, so we're talking, I am talking to Sandra Bullock today, um, whom I, I really don't think I have met. Yeah, I, I, I mean, you know, I am of the age where I, I m. We may have met and and I forget, but I don't think so. We've never really properly met. What was your 1st experience meeting Sandy and what do you love about working with her?

And should I call her Sandy right away?

I feel like, yes, you should just rock straight in with Sandy. I feel like she'd love it, and she always assumes stuff that way. I met her. She immediately offered me some Haribo, I think, which just like broke the ice, which was lovely. And it was at the read through.

Just to be clear, that's a gummy bear.

Yes, a gummy bear got it. Um, right, Yeah, important yeah,

to make that distinction. Yeah,

yes, um. And she texts us immediately. It's your mother here, like how she gets Oh, mother, that, like, take mother, moth, it's your mother. It it's your was literally mother. her. I know, um, and she just like, ever since, has just been like a mother to us. On the side, it's been so special. We went for a little sleepover at her house. It was cool.

wait, tell, say more about that. What do you mean? Before you started shooting, you did,

No, it was like after a night shoot, um, after the night, after a night shoot. We went there and we had little cocktails at like six, zero in the morning and then stayed over in her little cottage. And then the next day we got to go in the hot tub. We raided her fridge and ate all her food. She had to go to work, she left us in the house and then we just like, ate and sat on the sofa, watched like YouTube.

It was nice, yeah,

it was so nice it was. I mean, she's just the best, she's such a nurturing spirit. She's like, she's one of those people who, you know. She says that she'll always be there for you, and she's like, really means it, like she'll answer the call anytime, any day. Um, I, I've texted her in distress before being like, I need your advice on something, and she's like, calling now. And so, and that's just such a she's such a, she's such a like, like a girl's girl.

And also just like, I don't know, she's just I. I'm so amazed by her and her and everything she's been through, and she handles herself with so much grace and elegance. And I just, and she's, she's just so hot, too,

I know she's so hot,

she's so hot.

it's it's a lot like, it's a lot. It's hard to ask somebody like, Why are you so hot? Think you have to That'll be my 1st question

why are you so hot?

Why are you so hot? No, but she has this thing. I mean, we've been like, you know, we get ready for our guests and we're like reviewing their body of work, and her body of work is so diverse, it's incredible. She has been in a space movie that's made a gazillion dollars. She has done, like really deep, intense drama, she's done horror, she's done incredible physical comedy, she's been done hugely successful romantic comedies, she's done some, she can do it all.

How does she like to work? And what was it like working with her in this film?

I mean, like, I love watching her, she, she's almost like Tinker. Like, especially if it's like a phys physical comedy scene, like she's really building it. She'll get to set early, like she'll rehearse on her own, she'll like block with supporting artists, and like, she'll build it and build it and build it. And each take, she like, adds something more. But it's like she's constantly finessing one idea and it's like, so amazing to watch. And it's like, really nice to watch someone doing something that seems so off the cuff and so natural.

But they're like, prepared and they've thought about it a lot and they know what props they wanna have. And they and like, I just, I liked to see that on set. Like it was a peek behind the curtain, because everything she does is so funny and it seems so natural and seems just so in the moment. But like, it takes a lot of work for her to do something that she's like, really happy with. And we got to watch that time and time and time again on this movie.

She's also just a really great, uh, generous actor, too. Like there was just some stuff where we had where it was like, really emotional for either me or Nicole. And like the way that she would support us. When it was like our turn to have, like a like, a really tough moment or a big moment was so just beautiful. And it's like, inspiring and and so special. Because she, she takes her job so seriously, and she also takes making sure others experience a good job too, so seriously.

I ask, um, the um, the people that I get, like, have the pleasure to zoom with, um, if they have a question for my guest. And um, I was curious if you think there's anything I should ask her today on your behalf.

I think she's got such like, there's such a lack of vanity to the way that she approaches physical comedy. Um, and I think it's really h like, I f. I get very self conscious on set and I know that there are times in her life where she feels self conscious. But it's never in front of the camera, it always seems like it's never in front of the camera. And I just, uh, like, has that always been just instinctive, or is that something that she's like, crafted?

Like, if she's feeling self conscious, how does she get out of it? Like, I just, I really, I really wanna know how she battles that.

I love that question, Maisie. I think that's such a good question.

Okay, and what's yours, Joey?

My question for Sandra is, I wanna know when the last time she just quietly thought to herself, Does it get any better than this? like, what's the last moment she had that was so? does it get any better than this?

Oh, that's such a beautiful question, and it's gonna also, um, help her get back to that moment. That's what, that's a really generous question.

I'm excited to watch the episode, cause I'm excited to, like, see where she goes mentally, with where, when, where she, where she arrives. I think that'll be special.

Oh, that's a great question. You guys are so smart and talented I and the future, think, you're the future, so we're in really good hands.

and I've always said that,

And we all know that the future looks incredible and there's nothing to worry about.

Yeah, literally, it's perfect. He's just perfect in our hands. Come on,

Well, thank you so much for your time. I know she'll be thrilled that I talked to you both, and I bet she's got the warmest things to say right back to you. So, um, thank you guys so much for doing this. Oh, we Thank you,

love you, Amy. Thank you we loved for having the podcast. Thank us.

you so much for having us.

Thank you so much. such a pleasure to meet you both. Hope to get you in the stewed

It was love. Oh my god, great me too. Okay bye bye, bye,

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Yes, we did.

I'm very, very excited. Thank you for by. I know you're in the middle of a lot of talking,

the thing I am. I am super excited because, uh, I, I'm. I'm excited to be in the company of your brain. Truly.

same, and your sweater says shenanigans,

It's from the film. It's something Aunt Jett says,

and, uh, let's start there. Because when I was thinking about how to start this interview, which I've been very excited for. Um, we were just talking about the fact that you really can do so many things well, and how tiring it must be to be s good at so many things.

y, you know, it is exactly.

But you're like, you're, you're a physical comedian, you're an incredibly successful producer, you can do really deep, meaningful things, big and small. You've been in huge hits, you've been in small.

The instinkers, the huge hits and then some that hit You've been in huge failed.

hits, you've been in things people don't choose Don't like, to see, and you've withstood that. Um,

did I?

but you are to me. You have what Lucille Ball has, you have Oh God, what Carol Burnett has, you have, like a physicality, you have timing. What did you guys laugh at in your family when you were little? Because you have, you have really interesting, creative a really parents.

interesting. Parents had. They're dead, so they're here. Um, my mother was German, right? So right what is she laughing there, not

at?

funny. Um, really did not have a sense of humor. Um, which actually makes you want to challenge that on a daily basis. My father was from Birmingham, Alabama, English, Irish, French, you know, like storyteller from the South, so he had a rhythm of his own. Um, but I really think I got it from trying to break my mother, Make her cause she was trying laugh, to break me, yeah, by making me laugh. And it was always when I hurt myself, when I fell, so which kinda goes that's so great hand in hand with the that she would laugh, immaturity thing.

that you laugh hard when you She would laugh so fall.

hard. And I went. My mother didn't laugh a lot, so to get joy out of her was everything. My dad I had, I had in the pocket, but my mother really was someone that I knew wanted to laugh and needed it. But when I finally found it, it was like it was my little ace in in the pocket. It she, she, she was a tough audience.

Was there any American stuff that she laughed at that she liked when you were younger? Do you remember her God, laughing at anything or any, Sh. liking any pop culture? American We didn't TV?

really have a lot of TV in the house, like we didn't have magazines. When I, I God, I lived overseas,

used to love magazines.

we watched foreign films, and, you know, I would always gravitate to the ones that had a physicality, so you could understand it. Um, but no, my mother was an artist, she was an opera singer, and it was very serious.

I'm in. I'm incredibly intrigued by this.

She was extraordinary, and I notice that now, more than ever, being a mom and seeing her practice her craft, which was incredibly annoying to me.

Yeah, of course.

It was annoying, it was loud and it was in the basement of our house and it would permeate the whole neighborhood. As we're playing like kickball outside, you hear her vocalizing and you're just like,

you have very good posture. I'm trying, Did she have really good posture? Yeah, and she was she had breath control and all that stuff.

all of it, from the diaphragm, she was she, so she was. She practiced the high art, so did my father, but he just had that southern thing that was more relaxed. But also to control the room and put the remedies, she had no desire to put the remedies. Incredible. None whatsoever

I'm always fascinated by the people that can stay quiet and that don't feel the need to change the temperature in the room. It's fascinating to me. It's like a such a power move.

it is. It's funny that you bring that up because today I had that very conversation with my sister. I was like, I am so tired of hearing myself talk. oh babe, She goes, I can, I'm like, and it's also the press junket. I feel like I'm here to just share and do whatever. But she says, You know, it's also your undiagnosed ADHD and your trauma response. I went, Okay,

you're like, Wow, you've read for Phil, thank you so much. But have has this ever happened to you? Where you're on a conference call and you're accidentally on mute and you, you're talking, but you're on mute? And then you no one tells get off mute you, and you realize, like, I've actually just been the most powerful I've ever been. By not talking, by pausing for more than 10 s, but I never do that. I have to work at it.

Okay, we were talking about, we were talking about your German mom, but we're talking about opera. I. Your relationship to music is really interesting to me. I've learned that about knowing you. Not only, like, you know, as a producer, you're picking music for the projects you make. There's r really good needle drops that are in films that you make because of you, but you sang opera. no, I did not, Oh, you did. Are you a singer?

not even close, Okay, are not even you

no. I'm not one of those who says, Oh, I can't sing. And then I'll be in, like at the car, and I'll belt something out. And they're like, you've got a great voice,

okay? you know, you don't have a good voice?

I, I should not be singing, but what I have is great rhythm, Yeah, I see that timing, timing, so, timing.

but you sang with your parents, were you not in operas? You

yes, I was in the

were in operas.

I was in, I was in the background. There's always like some filthy child stealing money and coins off the floor. That was me, that was me.

And so do you feel. Did your mom want you to be a singer? Did she ever want you? No, she knew,

look, there could only be one. She, she knew, um, sh, there was only one her, and she was, she was of the highest order of of talent. She just she was the one. I was the jokester. I found my way to sort of level the vibe anywhere was through that, so she knew, of course, at some point I would be that. I was in theater and I did things like that. I didn't even attempt to sing.

I am going to my 1st opera very soon. I've never been.

Which one are you going to?

Um, George Saunders. They're doing an opera based on his book Lincoln in the Bardo at the Met,

Really?

and I'm thrilled. But my question for you is, what, like, what it? What should I prepare for? Uh, uh, cause have you? I'm assuming you've been

Y?

to many.

Yes, and it's amazing how, no matter what the language, when it's good, you understand it all, and it's it's the profundity of the performances and the set deck, and the it's grand, it's always grand. Um, and I remember as a kid, I would be in the back of the car and my mother would always test me. Like she would play something, she goes, What does that make you feel? and I would s, I would lean in.

I would say, This feels like someone's losing someone, or they're they're. L looking for someone who's dead, you know, like you, you could feel it when it's good, um, when it's bad, it's bad. Um, I think you're at the Met, you're probably gonna be just fine and it's gonna be amazing, I think you're gonna be okay.

What a cool thing for your mom to do to test you on. What are you feeling What else? What when you hear

else? Feeling?

this?

I mean, we would go Very cool, to Italy for the operas and just sit on the stone steps and with our little ice cream and just watch the animals come on stage. And the, you know, it was, it was. It was just beautiful, that's it was really

so cool. beautiful. And speaking of German, what can you tell me? your favorite German word? And I'm gonna try to guess what it means.

hm, it's, it's, um, a scheisskopf, Say again, please, scheisskopf.

Scheisskopf. I'm gonna say that is, um, the feeling agreed. that you get when When you're about you win to, or an argument.

you're, you're very close. Because the word would probably be used in the argument is you right before the mic drop moment. Oh my god, Yeah, yep, chills. I hm, hm, speak German. No, and then do, do you wanna know what it means?

oh yeah, what does it mean? Sorry,

It means shithead, shit, it's what my mother would teach. All the boyfriends are like, would you like me to teach you some German? and they're like, Yes, Miss Bullock, I really would. And then she'd give them, you know, shithead, and then it's so she. Maybe she did have a tiny sense of humor, that sounds pretty funny, although it does sound that sounds pretty pretty funny. Yeah,

funny. She sounds like a trickster.

she, you know what she is. She just didn't know it at the time of her life. It it came to her later on.

well, I mean, I you. Everybody needs a straight man, and it feels like your mom provided that. Um, the, you know, there's a million journeys to get to being on screen. And like, you know, you, you're performing, you're acting. You move to New York, you study at at Meisner,

hm, hm, well, I st. which is I studied in college, uh, the teacher that came to the what college we used to have

were you at then?

E East East Carolina University, only because my best friend in high school had an application. My dad really wanted me to go to a school of the arts, the top ten. I was not getting into any of them. I auditioned for one, it was very unfortunate.

Do you remember who you auditioned with? I don't recall. It's That's good.

that traumatic. Yes, I remember the smell of the room, the smell of fear.

I remember the flop sweat and like,

it was, it was this austere white room. It was like, I'm not supposed to be here, I'm not. I wasn't. I was pretty oddly shy as a kid because we traveled back and forth and I had a lisp, and my lisp still kinda comes out when I'm like, on this press tour, my lisp has come out.

W. When you're tired or talking to your family or something,

and I didn't really notice I had one until a few years ago. I was working with my co star. I was like, you have a lisp? and I was like, her

you're like, stop paying attention,

stop it, stop and tell, why are you why are you looking at looking at me? I'm my mouth?

like, Yeah, you're worrying about yourself.

But I, I didn't, ha. I wasn't baked, I wasn't mature enough, I was very sheltered, so I could never have made it in any of those environments. I did not have the confidence. Did you I

like studying all like that? Meisner Meisner technique? very much So for people who don't know what Meisner technique is, it's kinda cool. What, what? how would you explain it?

premise is being truthful in imaginary circumstances going. So I, I wasn't comfortable when they would say, lay on the floor and you're gonna fry like bacon. And it was like, I'll never be cast as that. This will never. It felt artificial to me, it didn't. But Meisner, they give you a piece. Um, started off with, you know this, these soliloquies in in a book. You had to go and do an emotional preparation, as if going okay, this never happened to you.

But prepare as closely as you can to the emotion and the feeling of getting to this. What would make you feel like this? And it gave you a tool outside of, um, yourself. That made sense, at least for me, it made sense to hang on. And also listening, which we're probably not very good at, because I do, we like, we like to, you I do, you know,

know what? I'm good at it you are, and so are you. I've seen it. Active listening, you're very good it's, at it, and I it's, it's am too. learned, it's it, it But

not always, not always.

but can't you tell very quickly when you're with someone who's not listening? And there's like, there's no lonelier feeling when you can tell when you're talking and you can tell that someone's dead behind the eyes.

it kinda makes me sad,

It makes me sad, too.

makes me really sad.

And I maybe it's co, maybe it's a little codependency, maybe it's like a little bit of making sure I'm staying connected. But I, I, I think, I. I think you can still be a good listener while you're talking, or while if you're if you consider yourself a talker.

yes. And if you've done enough therapy, too, you've learned that, you know it, it requires you to just stop and that all of that, it's, it's all of that together in a pile. And I got very lucky that this teacher came in to teach the Meisner technique. And it was always the girls in class who could cry on the spot and I'm like, Oh, they're such brilliant actors, she can cry, you know, never could get there.

no tears. Never. No, I can't no tears.

unless I feel it. What you don't like the tears,

W I. I have a whole thing about tears.

just explain.

Well, I think that tears, to your point, are very effective. But people, just like being flexible, people can sometimes are just good at tears. L Like, they were just born being good at tears.

And keeping them like perched right there. And then it just

Do you know?

when I cry, it's the square mouth, it's like things tilt, it implodes, and it's. There's nothing cinematic I about it.

heard that Elizabeth Moss, I don't know if this is true, Elizabeth, right in. Call in that she can pick what eye she's gonna cry out Stop of. That's what I heard. Isn't that an isn't that an incredible call us, rumor? Elizabeth

we need to know how this is call us, Lizzie done. call us, because she's That is,

so good at crying. The people that are able to go blink and drop a tear.

I'm, I'm sort of like, I've, I'm I'm having a little a fomo like right now. I wish I had.

but I think it's like being able to touch your toes or something like. Either have Well, I mean, it or you don't.

I could do that, but no Well, not all one wants to of us can, see that film.

not all of us can. Sandy, Well, have have not all of us

you been practicing? can. It requires

I know I. practice. I tried to touch my toes with John Cena when he was in here Did and he was,

you know?

and that's not a euphemism, how dare you? And he touched

that's the way he said his toes it, so well, he touched his toes.

palms to the floor. I can see that, Are you that flexible? Can you do that? Damn it, but I there's nothing you can do.

practice, I, I practice, I practice. Okay, speed, So yeah,

okay, so then you auditioned, then you auditioned for No, speed, where um,

I had to be flexible.

yeah, you probably did have to be flexible in speed. Uh, you've talked about this before, but I'm really. Those early days of like walking into rooms, trying things. You, like, you were saying, not being fully cooked, but feeling excited about stuff. Knowing that you had the passion, but maybe not the experience yet, but going for it. Those swings feels like really paid off with speed. You were able to, like, meet the moment of that movie with the enthusiasm that that character needed and that audition process.

I've read about, you read about it and read about you talking about it, but it sounds really funny and fun,

it's I in in in retrospect

right? But what was it like?

again, there was a again, like the audition for the school I didn't get into. There's lots of schitt'sing and just you're outside of your body. And I think from New York, I was, I was a waitress. Every Thursday, I got the backstage magazine, I pounded the pavement. backstage, You went to your little auditions with your your headshot and you just, you just had to do it, so I was comfortable just doing it. Um,

Did you have to pretend you were on a bus when you I, were auditioning?

I, I d. I was on a folding chair and they gave me a paper plate.

I think I have to say, you know, and we talk about acting a lot on this, cause I talk to a lot of actors. I think everybody should have to do that once. To feel like, you know, you think in life, like, I've felt what it's like to be humiliated, and you're like, not quite

you're not. yet And then they bring in Keanu Reeves, like when they in the call back and you're just like, Am I still on the chair with the paper plate? Yes, silver plate. Okay, okay, disassociate and drive in

okay. Do you do the little old flinger fashioned roll and then I roll up?

down the window, the back, then, cause the bus has all these Yeah, I mean, levers here

just the mirror.

and sh and the hydraulics. There's all kinds of stuff going on. That I was like, you know, yeah, so

check in the glove compartment, there's no glove see if it's

compartment in a bus. I mean, I don't know, is there? maybe. There's I don't know.

an air freshener, there's a million Not in things you could this bus, not do in this in this bus, bus.

air freshener.

Um, that movie is so huge, it's huge for you, you and Keanu, lifelong friends. You create this incredible chemistry together,

We didn't create it. It just shows up.

it shows up. You're right, and you have chemistry with, so you are really, really good.

I'm like a skunk, I kinda just spray it You're like, and whoever's in the line of Sorry, fire, whatever you're like, get dogs are in the get, get, get, neighborhood, just start

start coming in.

coming in. That's what people don't realize. You have to, like,

I agree, you gotta o, you gotta turn the channel, you gotta, but what, what? But talk about chemistry for a 2nd, cause people love to talk about it, but what, like, what, what? What was it about you and Keanu that, like, immediately, you, you just felt?

I think with us, we're so different, we're so. He is very reserved and zen. And as we were saying earlier, give us a silent room and you can watch us spin out. And so, So anytime he's silent, I'm like the whirling dervish around his silence and he's just waiting for me to wear myself out. And he's just patiently waiting. And then he often doesn't respond to what I say, you know, and then until, like, maybe a day later, when he's thought about it.

So it's it's someone to learn from in terms of what you and I need to work on. Yeah, the tortoise Yeah,

and the hare kind of thing, yeah, but you've worked with really, really different I work leading men.

with I. And they all have they. They are good at playing they're. They're just like they're there to volley back. And I think because I am not the femme fatale, I am, I am the the tomboy. I am the one that'll get in there with the guys. And you know, I think that's why it works for me, because I love being poked, I love being, you know, just be the needle and just trying to get at me.

Because that's a spark for me, rather than the real sweet stuff, which I just goes uninteresting to me. It's goes back to timing and women who have that, and I'm just. I can watch you all day long, but your respect and support of your opponent. Cause it is like a match. it is, and I watch it's a little bit you

c, a tiny bit competitive, in a fun way, in a fun way, in a fun but it's way.

also I see you have so much respect for the person opposite you. I feel it, I feel it in you, you wait. Like, even in the bloopers and the outtakes, I see you giving the person grace enough. And you're like, Am I gonna step in on this one? Am I gonna step in on this one? I see it and it's a rhythm that just it, you feel it here, I feel it here.

And don't you feel? I feel like people have music, like they just have a rhythm. And to figure out how to make it work is you have to just kinda get into their song. You just like. And then I think the reason why people like actors or performers, or writers, or whatever is they just like, like their music, they like their song.

hm, yep. It's like, when someone says you have good taste, that means you have the taste that I have. Like, you know what I mean, it's like, you have nice taste. This is what I would do, you know, it's, Yeah, that's so yeah,

true. Gravity. I wanna ask you questions about gravity. I mean, well, you, I love talking about oh my god, gravity. I have. I have Love so many questions. ask away, because Okay,

I don't think it it. Uh, yeah, go well, ahead.

well, you were, uh, before we get to gravity, you know, you won for the Blind Side Oscar. You've been nominated many times, how many are you?

I've been nom. I've been nominated twice and won once.

Okay, well, that's more than once.

It's like a fifty, fifty, I have fifty, right? Yep, yep, okay, okay, several, you've yep,

been nominated several times and you won an Oscar and a Razzie in the same weekend. yes, balance, Incredible, incredible

balance, yeah. of Co. And And I came and took the Razzie back, cause I K went home with it and they were like, you can't have this. I was like, Yes, I can, they were but no,

like, we only have one, no, I have we only have one. one. We had Dakota, um, Johnson on here, Dakota Johnson told Aw, a really nice story about I love a voicemail that she she's sh, she's got from you.

one of the she's one of us.

What did y? What did you do when she won her Razzie?

Called her and welcomed her to the club.

What did you win your Razzie for?

Um, all about Steve, a film I did with Bradley Cooper. And my, yeah,

and we never heard from him again.

yes, exactly, he just, he just, yeah, yeah,

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But a movie like Gravity, I'm just gonna put out there, is a really big, deep, lots of. It is you by yourself camera on your face movie. So what was it like to shoot mostly, and often by yourself?

very so.

What did it feel like?

Um, there was so much technology in, like I in, in in within the box that I was literally within the box. If I wasn't on the wires, um, and if I wasn't with George, um, it was music, it was. The only relationship I had was to our sound mixer and Alfonso, because the whole stage was black. And and so I had earwigs in, um, ugh, and so I said to the the sound guy, I said, Look, there are these, cause it was all rhythmic.

I my body had to be very slow, like Martha Graham. And I kept looking at a dance teacher that I had at ECU who came from, um, Alvin Ailey and taught me how to not throw my body around. He goes, You gotta stop throwing your body around as he'd throw me up against the wall and I'd be like, Please, I'm coming back. Um, but it. I learned how to disconnect the head from the body, cause the head could speak at normal speed and the body had to move like that.

You know, everything had to be what it would be in gravity. As I was looking at a.That's George, that's a Soyuz, that's and the sound mixer had. We chose selections of sounds and music and songs and vibes that I like. You said, you start vibing with a project. I was like, this song reminds me of this right here. This makes me feel this moment, you know, what makes me feel an absolute silence. What's, you know what?

So I would say, I'm not getting there. I play two, seven and five, and then I'll get two. And he just was my life mixer, he would mix it and just get me Is there any to.

music that you'd be willing to share that you listen to? That I don't even you remember

remember, but I just remember at the end. He gave me this tiny little, you know, what's it called? like, zip you know, there's a

drive or something?

tiny little thing with like a hole where you plug in, you know? And he just handed it to me and I was like, that's my performance. Wow, that's so Yeah, so it tapped into my body, cause my body had to do these strange zero So you g things.

were just faking the whole Everything was time. This

faking, like everything. George and I were in the the pod and Alfonso was giving us notes. And they said, Does anyone want a water? And I said, I do, and they handed it to me and I grabbed it. And George goes, You know what, you just did, didn't you? and I said, No, I have no idea. He goes, You were like this, everything was very slow and I was kept talking to Alfonso and I grabbed the water.

But my body was so used to having

that must have somatically been really cool, peaceful, like it must have been peaceful.

it was very peaceful. Yeah,

well, it was a humongous hit. Congrats didn't do that. Yeah, and you had just adopted your son, I'd Lubbert, right? Yeah,

Yes, Lubbert, we called him Lubert T. Jones. That was his name on the cause. He was just I had dressed him in these cute little English vests and he had these little hats and stuff. he was the cutest And

baby ever.

he was still cute, but that was super cute. Um, it was just. It was an amazing experience because for Alfonso and his son, and they wrote it together. It was about his sort of feeling lost and having an existential moment in life, of despair. And how do you show that in space? You go to space?

it was. It's such an incredible movie, beautiful movie, and your performance is incredible. thank you, thank And George you. too. I I mean, mean,

it's it's all just exactly where it needs to be.

yeah, it, and and it, it like space films about space. I ki, I'll kinda watch any time, but the feeling of like, I don't wanna go to space, I guess, is what I'm saying.

nor do I.

Okay, good, let's not go. And what was it like working with Clunes?

you know what, I've known Clune since before he got, um,

Is that how he? L What he likes to be senor called?

Cluns, he li, he prefers Yeah, he Amal. Amal calls insists, he him that now, senor. insists. Um, when did you guys 1st work? It was had we'd, we'd only worked together then, but it's we 1st met when he was, you know, on back porches of all their friends, drunk, doing Buddy Hackett imitations. And, uh, like, this was before, um, what was that, the show he did where he's a doctor, you know, E er, R, and that thing?

Yeah, it's before the he got that, other, er, yeah, the other er, but it's where he was doing all the PI. He was like George of the Pirates before he became wait, did you just super George.

say, what is the show where I know it's he was the doctor?

yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, the doctor show. My God, Er Yeah, I know it, Sandy, I said, Er, you, you have I've watched, it on there.

I've watched Er three TI. you know, I've watched the entirety of Er

Like recently.

three times. The last time was during Covid.

Well, it's worth it. Everyone It's, is stellar. ah, it's so And then, good. yeah, they're just it's, I mean, yeah. So okay, sorry, George is a player, he will play and he will bat things back and forth, and he is, he's fun. George is fun. hm, hm. You guys Yeah, were great together, yeah,

really great together. I mean,

we're G. We're good in space together. I don't know how we'll do on land, but on space, we're amazing in space, in space, we're great. There's no one out there that can compete you're like, with us. No I'll only work other,

with him in space, and this and that's it this one, I'll only work with underwater. But now we're talking about practical magic, which you're doing tons of press for. 1st of all, and I just love. I mean, I I know it's weird to talk about s the press people are doing. But just watching you and Nicole talk is so Yeah, it's a little nice and relaxing. train wreck. Yeah, You guys are such opposites in the the best way.

Nicole is just kind of on a different channel and in her, and like, in a re and really l, She's regal, she is,

she's regal.

and she's also very playful, and so are you, but you play totally differently. differently. And to It's so see her play fun.

is really nice, cause you don't get to see that a lot. You know, she's on this one cause, uh, the what I had to carry wasn't really sexy for a comedian. Because I was like, I'm grieving, I'm having issues with my daughter, I'm battling with fear and all that stuff. And then she got the fun role and I was like, So, where can I find moments that are appropriate within these dire situations? And we kept with the writer writing these fun lines for Nicole.

And she, she didn't wanna do like she was like, I don't, this, I don't wanna be the comedic sidekick. I'm like, Yes, you do, yes, you you're gonna do

do have promise.

what you want, promise. And she just took to it, like she found her, she found her rhythm, and she's really good at it.

yeah. I mean, the friendship you guys have is really cool to watch. I mean, it's very authentic. Uh, you, I, I'm, I'm. I know female friendships are very, very important to you. They've, I would imagine, in I mean, as many times,

they are to you. Yeah,

absolutely. What have the women in your life done, and the friendships in your life done for you?

I, uh, everything, it's, it's like it, it. I don't think I can quantify it. Because it changes with the seasons, it changes with our changes, it changes with where we are and where we're not. Um, and it, you know what, they, they give me a tremendous amount of grace. Um, they judge, like my sister will be like, she's doing that thing again, you know, like? But my sister will sit there and allow that thing to pass.

Because she knows my history, she knows where it's coming from, even though she wants to kill me, she's, she's, she's gonna wait it out.

Yeah, that's what I always say about friends is they know you really well and they like you anyway, you know, it's like they really, really know you, and yet they still take your call.

yeah. And hopefully, I I mean, it's really important for me to be a good friend.

What's your conflict style? Do you? Are you a retriever,

I'm a mix, I'm a mixed bag, I'm a little sprinkle of D. But it also

are you a yeller?

depends on who I'm opposite, what their style is. You know, I know, I mean, that's sort of the the ver vernacular right now is like, I'm an avoidant, you know, whatever I. I am probably a little bit of everything, depending on who I'm opposite and how safe I feel. Because in what we do, unless it's very close relationships, you don't know who's coming to you with safety and giving you a safe place. So it just depends.

Um, but I can read people really well I bet and I don't always heed my own warning. Until, like, three beats later, I'm like, I knew it, but you know, I'm like, I wanna give them a shot, I wanna, you know, like, whatever they're coming at me, maybe it's this, maybe they're having a hard day and then three beats later, I'm like, that's what I thought it was. Yeah,

yes, yeah. That instinct of feeling something and listening to it and responding to it like that. To me is like a lifetime of work, basically. It's like our entire life is to figure out, like, how to shorten the distance between what we sense and what we act on yeah, but or something.

do you don't you think that's also being a woman? Like we, we have? We have of course, a more sensitive meter, I feel,

of course.

but we're also conditioned in this, you know, s social universe, that we are not to trust that.

well, we become experts in other people and we become really, really aware of how people are acting and changing. And, to your point, we w we like, we're conditioned to give a lot of grace. Like that's why, like someone like your mom, who's like, I'm gonna be an island and you're gonna have to come to me. Is still really fascinating to find in a woman because it's still just like, whoa, she's not saying anything and she's not pleasing anybody, and she really does not care that people are projecting all this stuff on her.

It's fascinating.

Yeah, I I mean, the way you're saying that, I'm going. I'm getting to know my mom, you know, like I, I feel like I am getting to know my mom as I become more of a mom, you know, even each day. I'm like, Oh, I see why she said that, I see why.

I mean, practical magic has a lot of those themes, like beautiful themes about, like you talked about history, trauma, pain. The idea of protecting the people that you love, the idea of like, what is a like? What is a mother's burden and blessing? What does she get to do, what does she have to do? It's so great and you're playing a witch 30 years later, almost from when you played it before. And I'm so interested in this idea in general, that as women get older, like, there's something that gets very witchy about us.

we've always had it. It is. It's the lag time. Those three beats become one beat. You're no longer, you know, like you're no longer waiting or 2nd guessing yourself. You go, it just is you've, cause you've had enough instances in life to prove you correct when you had that feeling. It's called a mother's intuition, for a really good reason, women's intuition. Like it's, we are extra sensitive to things, and it's it's a both a blessing and a curse.

But I think as you get older, you just don't wanna waste time anymore, you know, at least I don't.

The way you speak about y the losses that you've had in your life makes people feel very seen and you're very generous about it. And it, in many ways, reminds me of this idea of, like, the witchiness that happens to us when we get older. That we're coming in with some pain and some, hopefully some lessons or knowledge from it, or whatever, just. And I really appreciate it as a person listening to you share, because I don't know, I can't explain it other than I feel safe in the way that you share.

Cause I feel like you're taking care of yourself, which is a big relief for me. If that makes any y, it does, and sense,

I I want to take care of you, I wanna take care of you, making me teary eyed. Stop. Um, I really wanna take care of people's souls, like, or whatever, whoever the person is. I never wanna be known as someone who violated someone's confidence, that someone, um, gave me a piece of themselves and I was, I was careless with it. And I think, sure, younger age, I was a dingbat. But because of the things that I've been able to see and feel and experience and get behind the curtain on.

Um, I feel like it's a secret that I don't want to share from those who deserve to, um, benefit from my experience.

well, you've spoken beautifully about being a caretaker to Brian and there's a lot of caretakers listening.

The caretaker world is absolutely underserved. I, I've been very private since I was a little kid, cause my mother always thought I was up to something that I wasn't. You know, I really am, like, why am I getting blamed for things I didn't do? I just I'm a guilty, I just look guilty, you know? But I don't want to ever, ever, ever not be. Oh God, how do I describe this? I don't. I did what I had to do in the situation I was in.

I didn't wanna say anything out of turn on what anyone else experienced within that situation, cause everyone was experiencing something, their own journey with that. Um, there's so much to the story that would be of service, but my story, my slice of pie and me and the kids, you know it, it, that's all we can speak about. You know what I mean, I'd love to say, but you know it, it serves no purpose other than I have the information.

I've met so many people whose whose family members have been diagnosed with ALS or a neurological disorder. I'm like, this is what I know,

What did you learn about yourself when you became a caretaker? what did you? What was a new thing that you I am learned about yourself? always a caretaker, Yeah, always, and right,

I learned that I d. I didn't take care of the person that was taking care of everybody else, and that was a big wake up call for me. Um, and I'm not good at asking for help, but I needed help and I needed to ask it in a way that was safe. Um, thankfully, I had a few angels that stepped forward and was like, this is where the nurses are, this is where the, you know, um, what did I learn about myself?

Um, that I have an incredible sister and she, she, in her worry for me, gave me a like, an alarm of going. If you do not start taking care of you, something's gonna happen to you and what's gonna happen to Lou and I. And I was like, you know, I, I, I, and that to me, that's, you know, I learned about myself. I have an extraordinary sister, you know, that that's the only thing that I know.

I'm still developing. I mean, coming into a press tour, I was looking at, um, the photos of the the London premiere, and I'm like, I'm not a red carpet gal.

Are you out of your mind?

Okay, let me, I'm just gonna let me just sorry, can, and I'm okay, I'm gonna let everyone.

That's our 1st fight. You look better than ever,

Let me know when you're done,

your red carpet is slaying.

let me know when you're done. Okay, I'm done. Jesus I agree with you, Christ, the outfits slayed.

it's not just the outfits.

It was incredible stylists that worked on this that made me feel comfortable in my body. From the neck down, I was, I was t so taken care of the person on the inside. Like I said to every, I would start panicking as we would get ready to leave. And I said, You guys are working on the outside end. I'm sitting in my body. I have no idea what you guys are doing. And I was just like, Uh, and then I got on the red carpet and I was like, Okay, I've got this, I'm, I'm gonna pretend.

I which hand should I put it in? I'm gonna work it like, I'm not someone who's like, what's up? totally. I mean, it's I'm not one of those like, and you, it's like, I just have you know what I mean, to say, th it's the finger Yeah, Sandy. I people, the finger

just had this experience. me, these I just did a photo shoot people. and I was like, Amy,

Did you do this?

I gave myself a pep talk. I'm like, Amy, you get in there and you be the You stick your finger person that sticks

in your mouth? stuff in there. You Do you

do it.

really say that?

I. I was like, just It's, be into it. I can't. It's so hard for me. I

no, no, no, sit down, can't just let me see be like, you watch

be like, I'm very, very sexy right now, I ca. And you just have to be a little like, who me? more. You'd be like, I'm just And then you sort in the middle of. And of something, and then there's two fingers, you're doing

like when there's someone shoves two fingers in their mouth in a photo shoot. Badass. I'm like, girl, I wish I would have the whole fist in there if I could. Okay,

I understand. I hear what you so so here, mean, the out, yeah, so yes, I hear what you're then. So Warner saying.

Brothers goes, we need you to, like, approve some of these shots so we can get them on social. I'm like, great, cause I by the end, I was like, I did it, I did a really good job, you know, I loved everything. From here to then, then I went,

What? What's? what's your face doing? is it? is it just your? uh, are your eyes?

it's just like. I was like, Why do I have stink face? Cause you're like, I'm like, no, worse, I'm like this. Look, you had look, but

a bit a resting bitch face? Is that what you had?

like, I smelled something and like, you, I'm like, what happened? That's not what I was being. Yeah, because It was like, we're here, you know why, because here. you're funny, Yeah, yep, but you, that's why you have, and then when you're because you're funny on a red carpet, you get this, nightmare, you get someone going, Could you raise the camera? It's like, nightmare, I, I, it's, it's, I mean, it's a nightmare. We don't belong on a red carpet, we don't.

I I, but No,

you do.

there should be a com. No, there should be a We're not the comedy red car. same, we're not No,

the same.

I think we should advocate for a comedy red carpet.

Unfortunately, that's every red carpet I've ever done is a comedy red But where the cameras carpet. No, uh, where

help us out a little I I, I've said bit,

this before, I really, I f. I'm really relating, cause I I feel like I. I try my best. I mean, I try

we do. so hard and Yeah, yeah,

I get full hair and makeup for hours yeah, it's like a and then I look at 3 h myself in the mirror

job, right? and I'm like, everything's It

right, okay, all right. is, yeah, And I get in the car and I get out there and I'm, and I feel like I'm posing like this, this is how I feel like I'm posing. And I see the picture and it's like, yeah, it is the it's

I so know what you're talking about.

like, when did I do that?

Yeah, when, when you were authentic,

But but you're not, that's not the place to be authentic.

you're right.

You ha, you can't be authentic. Yeah, yeah, and And we have to stop, we w have to just I agree. We create.

would stop. Talking, moving, I agree, you

we can't talk.

know, or, you know, there's, there's, there's sort of those who know Nicole is incredible not. She. Well, Nicole is a goddess, and she let's just let's just move, every single can we just remove her shot. from anything that we're in? So, like, I'm like, you do you,

I would never wanna do the red carpet with Nicole. I 1st of all, I would do. You have look,

empathy for me now? I mean, at I have least you're, at to do the red least you're. 5 carpet and

seven, five, eight.

yeah, it's five, seven, three.

Can you imagine? Close I mean, I'm s, Can you imagine me standing next to Nicole? I would look I, I, I, and honestly, all your make you six shots are with my stomach.

like this.

I would just be, I would just be doing some some weird, yeah, with your hands like, gesturing, weird

so it's not even a gesture to me, dad, it's and something not even like, that's weird cause you're

to me. Would be falling like, out of my pocket and I'd be talking to her like this. Yes, we all Oh,

do it, we all do it, and she is, she is a goddess.

she is a goddess, okay, um, this leads me to my

the stink face leads me to.

and I bet b. Uh, by by the way, we all have body dysmorphia, so I bet you look We all do, incredible,

we all do it. I bet you look Yeah,

incredible, and I w and not bet I saw it, you did, um, okay, we talk. We always on this podcast talk to people who know our guests and give us like, we talk well behind their back. Um, and hm, oh, sweet um, Jesus, it's so and we stupid. talk to Maisie

Wait a minute, wait, are we Williams. already done? Wait, no, Maisie,

No, no, we're not done. No, we're, we're, we,

we're 56.

we have so much. I have so How long is many more things

this show? on the on Oh,

the on the paper. it's a long show, But we usually do like about an hour, an hour, ten, okay, and we're live. I'm just kidding, Um, we have been live the whole time. great. So they're gonna Um,

stay over. Oh, here. Hold on, like, these are all stuck. It's like the shit's not working. I'm like, Oh my God, what are you doing? We just put a little,

you know what I like to do in the red car? We just put a little black and white cookie right under my neck.

we just, we just think about And then it.

and then it just sits right Just just work here and it just looks gorgeous

Wouldn't it be great if

right there.

there was like a really great collar that you sort of had and it made your jaw snatched and then you had this And and taken care of? right on the way And

out, your publicist is like, nibble, Do you have your cookie? nibble, Don't forget your cookie. I know you're gonna I'm like, Oh,

hate it.

shit, my cookie for my My cookie, sorry, neck. Okay, um, you look incredible. We all look incredible. It's it, it, um, I'm sorry, we are. Women I feel like are beautiful,

we messed something up. Okay,

every woman is beautiful. Okay,

oh my god, I'm sweaty. Is oh my god, this TikTok stuff me too, but though?

um, okay, here is. So we talked to Maisie and we talked to Joey.

Oh, how extraordinary are those They're so, two? They are they're the the coolest, they're so cool they're, and talented. And they are, they are everything tell me they are. Everything.

about working with them. What it was?

Um, you know, it's. It's a combination of awe and intimidation because they are so free. I'm glad I had to play someone that was tightly wound and had to be very maternal and dark and stiff, you know, like, because their freedom is intimidating and educational. Like we were having a um, about just just being a woman and flying the flag and stuff like that. And I said something about fear. I said, Yeah, but you know, you've got this is Maisie.

Goes, Oh no. And then she went off, she goes being a woman, she went off on, Oh, is not liking the word witch. I said, I don't like the word witch because it always came with hm. Of negative connotation, and course, it was, Maisie had full ownership of it. I mean, and she, and it was like,

yeah, it's the the divine feminine and its real power.

and she, they are both, they both epitomize that, and it's so peaceful to see. Because I'm like, if that's where that generation is, it, my daughter's definitely in that generation. Um, it's. It makes you calm for the future, like, maybe our job was well done, you know? Gloria Steinem

yeah. Rest in peace, Gloria.

I see how genuine Maisie and Joey are about other women, their want for other women to s succeed fearlessly. They're in support of these women, they don't feel like anything is being taken from them in their support of other women. And I'm like, I I just find them. I, I just I learned, I learned a lot from them.

They, of course, adore you. They loved working with you and they their questions were so tender. I loved their questions. Um, and and it makes sense that they're those kind of people. Um, Maisie's was. She was kind of talking about your physicality, and she also said something I found really interesting. And, you know, not to make the comparison, but it was very, it's very Lucy, it's very Lucille Ball. Is that she talked about the way you like to really rehearse your physical stuff, that rehearsing is the way in which you kinda get into it.

And for the physical and for the stuff, not for physical stuff,

verbal, comedic stuff. right? But that's Yeah,

what Lucy used to do. Lucy used to come in and walk through her physical stuff, which you imagine like her physical stuff felt like it was spontaneous, not at all. And she got more and more comfortable with the physical by doing I didn't it. And know that, I yeah, she was

didn't know that.

really into rehearsing. And anyway, she talked about how for her, that physical stuff is kind of like Maisie can probably cry like the

Kill it.

best of them. I mean, Ariana St. Argu, the most incredible character. But she was like, the physicality in comedy, in in those two things. And she was like, how does? She was like, how do you not get self conscious when you're doing it? Which I thought was such a tender question. And um, I feel like we talked about it a little bit, but but, uh, but I guess, how do you not? you do, and You do?

you use it. To be uncomfortable is the greatest feeling for me within doing the physical things like that, as uncomfortable as I can get, cause then I can react off of it. So I try to set things up to even bump myself. I had we had this great gentleman who's, uh, Gary, who did props, Gary love, love me some. It's like, he's always my set boyfriend, Gary in the props. Because it became a game of I would set things a certain way and he figured out why I was setting them a certain way.

So I could surprise myself and then get caught on something and he would slightly move it aside and it would just give me something else. And like, when it didn't move, I was like, Why didn't he move it? why didn't Gary move it for me? But it to be uncomfortable is the best position to be in. I feel for C. W. The comedy that I like to do. I mean, you too, right?

Absolutely like a little bit of tension that and that feeling of like a little bit of danger. And, um, you know, a tiny bit of, uh, I don't know. I guess it's what an athlete must feel, the closest thing to feeling. I'll never be an athlete, but the idea that there's something on the line, there's something on the line that you can create, that that that's not scary, but but a little bit of stress, yes, and that's it's nice.

that's what I do for my lines. I learn them three quarters. I, I'll never drop a line for another actor, but I wanna always, like, be able to pivot, drop it if I need to be in danger, like, let it surprise me as well, cause you can become very rote and that

well, that's if you learn that that your lines, which I the choose not to do. you don't, okay, Hm, hm, wait, I don't believe in it. that that line thing, And then Joey had the sweetest question, which is, when is the last time you asked yourself, Wow, does it get any better than this? my God, I know I know, isn't that? What a nice, what a crazy question. just Like, isn't that so nice? Look at us crying, we're but see, so good at but see, it, we're so good at it.

do you see Just hold it? Get a it together,

close up?

we're good, we can do it.

But that's that's when I cry. I cry with kindness. I in the big moments when you expect everyone to cry, I have to hold it together because I have to take care of big things. The feels hit me when there's kindness that I didn't expect. And that question, Um,

what a great question.

I, I don't, and I think that's what she's meaning. She knows I don't stop enough and go well, I, but it's not true. This whole past year from from London, when we started filming, I, I, I see things. It's just like, so differently. I, I really do. It's like I'm allowing myself to be a kid in how I see things again,

But it that play is the is the UM indication that you're a a little out of crisis. It's really out of crisis, hard. Yeah, it's really, hard to play when you're in crisis. It's like, what that the reason why for a lot of people was hard to create during Covid, it was hard to like, organize thing, you know? Cause when we, when you're really feeling in crisis, it it play is is the 1st

makes sense. to go Yeah,

when you feel that back again. That's like some little that bit of like makes sense. hm, hm, feeling that things are getting just a little bit more safe or regulated. Like, um, Well, I mean, for and

Joey, then her, for both of them, like, just, you know, cause we're passing the torch, or we're li, as Gloria said, I light others torches, so this in lighting their torch, it was a bonfire, you know? And to be opposite them when there's like a lot on that, we have the nostalgia part, and to see them just bring it, that's when it doesn't get any better. When the choices we made to bring those two very specific talents on and watch them kill it,

you're such a good producer,

you know, it's like, it's

you're such. like, Can we just talk? take a minute? I love it, I can we take love it, a? You're just? You're just really, really deeply, uh, empathetic, compassionate, but very successful, and, uh, you're just a baller of a producer.

you know, that's really nice of you to say. You know, I mean, I don't you have produced I

what, like 15 films or I have a lot something, and under my you produce a lot of stuff. And I think a lot of people can feel your presence when you're working on something, cause they know that you're producing you. it. Frankly,

You can do a lot of good sucking up in your interviews. well, you This is some know, we're right back great stuff,

at you. You're always trying to throw it back at me, okay? And practical magic? Really good music. I mean, did you have to get? was it? did you have to write personal letters to be able to get I did their music for say, but your movie?

we'll get some calling, we'll get some Yeah, Olivia reaching out. I Rodrigo, Fleetwood mean, she doesn't, and Mac she doesn't license to anyone. No, I know it, And she's a fellow witchy poo, she's a you know, she's

what a kitch.

a f, she's a. she's Talk about like, the talk about like, future p paver,

is no kidding.

she's p, she's, she's.

Olivia, please come on, we love you,

She will.

okay, all right, let's do a speed round, a speed Ooh, I love speed round.

speed. Hold on, let me get it, let me whip my whistle.

You love real estate and

Do we wanna do it design. like this?

Yeah, let's do it like

Speed round? ASAP?

this. Well, then the the pervs will get into it.

but don't you want pervs? Or an audience?

Well, you know, it's a great question. I welcome pervs.

You know what I love? It's the laughing that's come. Are they sitting in the bathroom

They're sitting in the back.

because there's the echo? Is there tile in that room? There is, right? Speaking of real estate, there's no better laugh than a laugh from That's the toilet,

what I, Oh my god, that's such a good call tile, a tile of laughs. You're right, cause it's like, usually ladies in the bathroom. I also enjoy a laugh that comes from, like, when you're a little kid and you're sitting on the stairs and there's like a party downstairs. I love the laugh that travels up a stair. Okay, but And she yes, so

says that is the way, as though it's happened recently, or she's um, also where your sons are yes. So, but throwing down in to get back the basement, to your question, you're like, Okay, stop, uh, pervs teach you, are welcome, but okay, creeps are not okay, yeah, no, we, we,

big difference.

yeah, got it. I, yes, We've talked I

about this on here with, like, Berenholtz. There's a difference between a perv and a creep. You know who you are. yeah, for sure, Okay, um, but you love real estate and design.

I do, I do.

How would you describe your design sense in a word or two?

Depends on the structure.

So you go with the place, like you're listening I go with the to the

STR, the I listen to the place, I walk in and I go. Who were the craftsmen? What does this place want to be? Cause I love the restoration process.

hm. So I feel like that word would be like, organic history or something. WABI SABI Wabi, here we go, okay, sleep. What time do you go to bed? Love it. Um, I'm What?

a great sleeper. ugh, of course I'm a great

you are. sleeper. I knew you would I mean, I try be.

to stay awake until, you know, Lila's in bed, cause she's a terrorist at night. So I just if she's out, then I can go to bed. But it's like, 10:00 up at 05:30.

that's what a professional does. It is, Pets, how many do you have?

I have four right now, I

what? what flavors?

have, I have flavors. I have vanilla, peach, like two chocolate. Do you have chickens I don't have

and dogs?

any, all my chickens passed away.

I'm sorry.

I have, I have a, um, a somewhat blind poodle, I have a a little rescue poodle who has a collapsed trachea. Cause they shoved spoons down her throat to quiet her. She was part of an illegal puppy mill

oh, bless her heart.

and I. But at least they have legs. I we ne. We had dogs without legs and the kids were like, enough. We have mama, who is a black feral, somewhat feral cat that was on my property, who then brought two babies. Like, I'm highly allergic to cats, and I was like, I am not bringing a cat in this house. Well, mama, The cats are on the house. Li Like, so there's two, there's mama and her baby, and yeah, so two gorgeous black cats.

We, my sister calls them the house panthers, and I go, that's brilliant, so they're the house panthers.

um, horses. Do you like them? Love them, but highly Do you? allergic, Well, cause I have a theory that the bet, the thicker your hair, the more you like horses.

love them, but I'm highly allergic. My daughter is a great writer, she's, she's, she's knows

That's awesome.

how to tame the beast.

Um, what's a musical artist that your kids got you into? J. Cole Hm, Wow, I mean, yeah, it's good, protein. How do you take yours? How do you get it?

thick. I mean, you set me up, you said, protein, how do you take it?

I wasn't even thinking that. What a dirty

I wasn't thinking that either.

I was talking about chicken I'm talking about yogurt, salmon, beefy, yogurt, Greek yogurt, thick Greek Sandy Bullock

zero Greek yogurt. Very And then, and good. That's then, like, what I was talking or like, a good about. pulled chicken salad, and then, you know, the little peptide proteins in the coffee I'm. in the morning.

I'm always trying to figure out how to I mean, it's get.

like, but are we gonna find out, like, ten years from now, that we've overdone it? We've grown some like internal, like eyes, some like, it's,

And also, I always appreciate when it's like, what's another thing I'm supposed to get right? Like, what is another thing I have to do? Good Lord? Um, oh, okay, and then, um, wait, is this all of our speed round questions? that's a It was so fun. lot, that's a lot Okay, yeah,

of stuff.

we're almost done. Here we go, we gotta wrap this I'm not rushing up. Okay,

you, I have no where to go.

um, we get. You have places to be, and you have talked so much. Um, I I know gotta go,

I'm like, I apologize.

I'm gonna go anyway. I mean, when this No, I'm gonna

question's over, I'm going away for another four years, I'm gone. Promise, no, please promise, promise. don't. We love But unless the hearing I come

from you.

here, unless I come, I'll just stop here once a year. I got something going on or not, I just stop.

That came out the wrong way. I mean, that you've had to talk so much, it's not that you've talked so much here. I love you talking here and have loved it. And so my last question for you is that I ask everybody is, um, what's making you laugh? like, what? But I mean, when you're like, at home, you know what's the thing that you are, you know it, it like, where do you go when you need to change the chemistry hm, inside a little bit?

my head, You're on it, that makes you. sense, cause you're so funny.

It's like, it's like, nothing makes me laugh harder than Louie, my son. Man, a few words like, like, it's like, Da Da. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. And he's like, Mom, yeah, he mumbles everything and I can't un. I can't understand a word. I'm like, English,

how old is she?

he's 16 and a half, I'm like, English. And no, keep then when he's standing there and he's, you know, no, no smile, and he's like, you know, can, can I? can I have a milkshake? And I'm like, Yeah, sure. And then I get up there and I go, my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. And he's just watching it. And then if he smiles, I'm laughing so hard, whether he smiles or not. But, like, humiliation makes me laugh.

me too.

If I can humiliate my children in the privacy of our home, not in public, of course, but in the privacy of our own home, with the little rump shaking, I, I, it's the greatest joy.

but that's play, like you're Just play, just playing, I play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and also it is. I mean, I can say this, but you can't. But like he, like, it's so funny to know that the entire world loves you, Sandy. They feel so connected to you, they've grown up with you, you are their favorite, and yet you cannot get your child to laugh

I cannot, I cannot. still. It's so funny hm, hm.

and also a great, healthy relationship. Yes, yes, it's very, It's very it's very. Yes, healthy. That's that's how you want it to I am just annoying be.

right now to both children. I'm just annoying.

that's, that's perfect, that's the perfect th way you should be for any team. But um, I, I, I just love talking to you. I knew I would. I didn't wanna put too much expectation on us being friends, but I do feel like we've.

But do you know how nice this I feel is for me?

like we're best friends.

No, I mean, but I think us not really. I mean, little ships passing in the night, little, you know? But having the opportunity to meet you now, at this stage of our life, is pretty amazing. Because everything is all over the place and we're all striving for different things and relationships and kids and dreams and things like that. But to be able to sit here and and acknowledge, like, where we are and where we've been, and that where I'm, I'm looking at you, just going.

I'm so glad you are that, you just are, and I'm so glad that you have this, this world that you've created. So we get to come in and experience you in a way that we wouldn't be able to. And you, you like, you are, you are one of those that those of us who love comedy do the like, the the bend and the. come on, But you, you have to know that to thank a lot you for that, of Pe, to a a great many of us.

thank you very much for saying So because it that.

is, it is, it is it, it's unmatched.

The feeling is mutual.

But just shut up and take the compliment for a 2nd. So for I'm batting you, you're an no, I'm hitting allowing shut it right back to up, shut

you, babe.

your face, so just just you One of and Ivy,

us is giving the present, and one of us is receiving, and I'm giving and you're receiving, and you are not giving me a present at the end of this conversation. Thank you so much for saying that, it means a lot to you me. I really

and and I. I feel does. Thank you, really grateful and this is

thank you.

I'm was very. I was a little nervous and You were I was a little bit. shit. I'm sorry Yeah, to hear that, cause no, no, no, I would've, in a good, a good way, because I was so looking forward to it.

same I. I wanted to kind of temper my expectation, cause I was like, don't come on too strong. It's okay if she doesn't become your She doesn't like bestie, you. it's okay if she doesn't like you. Most people don't. Just relax,

I mean, just walking in and seeing you, you know, was like, I. I was like, did I just cross a boundary by, like, throwing my arms around her face, you know? But I, I. I felt very safe here. And you make I'm glad, people feel very, very to me, that is everything.

Sandy. Thank you, really. Thank you, thank you so much for doing it. And thank you, um, I adore you, so thanks I, so much. I, I now adore Yay, we you. did it. Oh my god, it was so good. Oh, Sandy Bullock, you are just the best. Thank you so much for coming on. That was such a delight to talk to you and, like everything you do, it was moving and deep and funny and real and authentic.

Um, I just love talking to you. And for this polar plunge, I think, you know, uh, Sandy talked a lot about the um, the care that she took of her partner, Brian Randall, who died of ALS. And I think we spoke a little bit about caretaking in general. And I guess I just wanted to take the 2nd to reach out to anybody who is listening today. Who are in the thick of it, who are caretaking currently as we speak, or know someone who is stretched thin?

We're just sending our love to you. I know Sandy would feel the same. And she said some really amazing things here about making sure to take care of yourself along the way. So reminding you of that message and, uh, saying thanks if no one said thanks to you today, thank you. Um, thank you for listening, Sandy. Thank you for all that you've done and the joy you've given us and continue to give us. And thanks for listening to Good Hang Bye.

You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weissberman and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Alea Zanaris, Bridget Gearlings, Paige Garbarini, Belle Roman and Drew Van Steenbergen. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weissberman. Original music by Amy Miles.