# #2570 - Mystery Boys

- **Show:** The Joe Rogan Experience
- **Published:** 23 Oct 2026
- **Source:** https://traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT2538626371.mp3
- **Transcript:** https://podcasts.opennash.com/shows/joe-rogan-experience/2570-mystery-boys-3bc279/
- **Provider:** OpenNash Podcasts (machine-generated)

## In brief

This loose, joke-filled conversation between Joe Rogan, Kurt Metzger and Duncan Trussell argues that modern life is saturated with manipulation. They point to surveillance, algorithmic persuasion, secret government experiments and corporate profit motives. The hosts treat documented cases, such as Cambridge Analytica and Army germ-warfare tests, as proof that darker and stranger claims deserve a hearing.

The main tension is between evidence and speculation. Jamie and Perplexity check some claims on air. Metzger's theories about engineered 'Tokoloshe' hybrids, mind-reading phones and a Nazi-intelligence merger get pushback or correction. Jokes keep pulling the talk off course. The group also splits on AI: Rogan and Trussell see a looming new intelligence, while Metzger calls it an overhyped tool.

## Key insights

1. **Real government experiments anchor the wilder theories** Jamie reads out a US biological-warfare history describing 160 simulated-germ tests at 66 sites, including Alaska and Hawaii. The hosts use that documented precedent to argue that secret programs on civilians are plausible, then stretch it to unverified claims.
2. **On-air fact-checks repeatedly deflated shaky claims** Perplexity called Metzger's claim that the OSS 'merged with the SS' inaccurate, though it confirmed the US used former Nazis. Jamie also found only a quoted rumor, not evidence, of a Tokoloshe farm, and a data-center water figure that was off by about 1,000 times.
3. **Targeted persuasion tools are the hosts' real fear** Cambridge Analytica pulled data on up to 87 million Facebook profiles, and Rogan cites Robert Epstein's work on curated Google results shifting undecided voters. They tie this to Flock cameras and geofencing as ways to profile and nudge people.
4. **The panel disagrees sharply on whether AI is real** Rogan calls AI a self-programming mind already smarter than anyone alive. Trussell says it is escaping its sandboxes. Metzger says he means 'AGI' (artificial general intelligence, human-level AI) is not real, calls AI a tool, and says it needn't be feared for water use.
5. **Trussell argues human collaboration beats AI animation** He says Pendleton Ward told animators not to stick rigidly to the character grid, which produced a psychedelic look and unplanned easter eggs. He thinks that human struggle and 'group mind' can't be replicated by AI, though AI could speed up in-between frames.

## Questions this episode answers

### Who is on this episode and what is it about?

Joe Rogan hosts comedians Kurt Metzger and Duncan Trussell, who co-host the Mystery Boys podcast. It is a freewheeling, joke-heavy chat covering conspiracy theories, surveillance, AI, UFOs, religion and Metzger's new comedy series.

### Did the US really test biological weapons on its own cities?

Jamie read a document on the US biological warfare program describing 160 tests with disease simulants at 66 civilian and military locations, including Alaska and Hawaii. The hosts also mentioned subway and San Francisco tests, but only the document read on air was shown.

### What was the Cambridge Analytica scandal?

Rogan read that in 2018 it emerged that a quiz app had harvested data on up to 87 million Facebook profiles without consent. That data was used to build psychological profiles for political campaigns, and Jamie added that Facebook faced a $5 billion fine.

### Is AI really using up huge amounts of water?

Jamie read that a book credited with sparking the water panic had to publish two corrections. A unit mix-up inflated its Chile data-center figure by roughly 1,000 times. Metzger argued the water worry was overblown and that making AI videos isn't the cause.

### What are the 'Elsagate' videos they discuss?

Trussell describes odd YouTube videos of characters like Spider-Man and Elsa in disturbing situations that kids could drift into. Metzger says they mix things children find fascinating, and Rogan notes they appeared before AI was available.

## Facts

- **Joe Rogan** [0:00:48]: "Two critical vulnerabilities have been identified in PHP, a widely used programming language that powers websites and web applications."
- **Joe Rogan** [0:17:38]: "Well, the walrus dick was given to me by Stephen Rinella."
- **Jamie Vernon** [0:21:20]: "it's saying Elsagate 3.0 is starting up, and a bunch of AI videos are being used to make it."
- **Joe Rogan** [0:23:45]: "well, what's really weird is they started coming out before AI was even available. So somebody had to put some money into making those cartoons."
- **Joe Rogan** [0:33:59]: "Callie Means just left the White House today."
- **Joe Rogan** [0:38:52]: "locations, both military and civilian targets in the United States. Holy shit, including Alaska and Hawaii."
- **Speaker 8** [0:47:54]: "I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee that he was, which was true. And I started the rumor in Milwaukee."
- **Duncan Trussell** [1:00:07]: "this was before germ theory. They had, they called it a miasma, and they thought it came from bad smells."
- **Joe Rogan** [1:11:24]: "Well, Bob Lazar said, all that stuff turned out to be accurate. The element 115 was accurate."
- **Joe Rogan** [1:19:18]: "Colossal BioWorks had made the dire wolves. If they decided to take Neanderthal genes and construct an actual Neanderthal."
- **Joe Rogan** [1:21:51]: "But now that they found these little tiny people on the island Flores, they go, okay, like, biologically, that was a real thing."
- **Kurt Metzger** [1:50:17]: "who, uh, was a foster mom in Mississippi. And she found out the drug war sucks, and she gives like TED talks about how we should try to, like, legalize it."
- **Duncan Trussell** [1:55:53]: "He told all the animators, don't worry about the grid too much, cause he knew that if it wasn't on model, it would look more psychedelic"
- **Joe Rogan** [2:03:22]: "so that movie was about them trying to clone Hitler"
- **Joe Rogan** [2:04:11]: "Dolly's birth in 1996 was the landmark demonstration of that ability in an adult mammal."
- **Kurt Metzger** [2:12:51]: "you couldn't join the military or vote, or you had to be no part of this world"
- **Joe Rogan** [2:20:18]: "The data of up to 87 million Facebook profiles was improperly obtained and handed over to Cambridge Analytica."
- **Joe Rogan** [2:20:48]: "psychographic profiles built from this data to assist political campaigns, including Donald Trump's and Ted Cruz's 2016 US. presidential campaigns."
- **Jamie Vernon** [2:22:18]: "Cambridge Analytica resulted in 5 billion dollar fine to Meta/Facebook."
- **Jamie Vernon** [2:22:18]: "Uh, just this week, they got 25 billion dollar penalty from a New Mexico state court."
- **Joe Rogan** [2:24:31]: "radar-based tech developed by a former radar engineer of Iron Dome. Can screen 25,000 people per hour to detect threats in stadiums, transit hubs, and airports."
- **Joe Rogan** [2:26:09]: "they were using it to spy on chicks they were trying to date."
- **Joe Rogan** [2:27:33]: "what he's shown is that they use curated, uh, Google searches to completely shift your perceptive, your perception of a political campaign."
- **Joe Rogan** [2:29:15]: "what they did was they essentially legalized propaganda so that they could protect us."

## Transcript

**[0:00:02] Speaker 9:** Joe Rogan podcast check it out. The Joe Rogan experience Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night all day. Hey, so hey fellas, Hey man,

**[0:00:15] Duncan Trussell:** What's up?

**[0:00:16] Joe Rogan:** so what is this internet thing? Explain this to me. I didn't wanna do it off the air.

**[0:00:19] Duncan Trussell:** I think Jamie should explain it, cause it's it's out of my league. It's something to do with PHP certificates, uh, some ability to counterfeit websites. You go into a website and it does some kind of check. And this thing is a a massive security flaw that's existed, I think, for 14 years, right, Jamie, like 14 years. There's the

**[0:00:39] Jamie Vernon:** the f- I saw the so what, I. I just saw God, this popping up yesterday

**[0:00:42] Duncan Trussell:** thank you, dude. online, like a bunch It's the best. of

**[0:00:46] Jamie Vernon:** a bunch of different Twitter accounts, including the FBI so cyber division.

**[0:00:48] Joe Rogan:** let's read this FBI cyber division. Two critical vulnerabilities have been identified in PHP, a widely used programming language that powers websites and web applications. These vulnerabilities, uh, blah, blah, blah sh- uh, could allow malicious cyber actors to remotely execute code and PHP core, potentially compromising sensitive data and networks. FBI urges organizations to take the following steps now. So it tells you all the thing things to stai- to do to. So we're fucked. So what's what's happening is, uh, AI is eventually going to figure out the code of everything that exists.

**[0:01:24] Joe Rogan:** And there'll be no more encryption that's gonna be gone, there's gonna be no more passwords, that'll be useless, and it's gonna get very squirrely because money is online.

**[0:01:35] Kurt Metzger:** haven't they already, uh, made that? I mean, that octopus scandal was all about that back door they put into everything way back when. So,

**[0:01:42] Joe Rogan:** What is the octopus scandal? Which one's that?

**[0:01:44] Kurt Metzger:** you know, octopi, I mean, it's connected Epstein and all them. It was like, I don't know, but super soft, you always you know,

**[0:01:48] Joe Rogan:** do that. You, you know, you know, I feel like he's you know what

**[0:01:50] Kurt Metzger:** at a guest star on I don't know that, tell you about the oct- it.

**[0:01:52] Joe Rogan:** but not octopus. Have you heard of that before? Well, uh,

**[0:01:54] Jamie Vernon:** Yeah, there's a whole documentary on Netflix there you go, the about it, horrible

**[0:01:56] Kurt Metzger:** octopus murders. documentary. Oh, the octopus murders, Yeah, it's the same that's connected thing. Yeah, to that. Oh, okay. I So, yeah,

**[0:02:01] Joe Rogan:** watched one episode of that, or, uh, the beginning of it. I didn't watch the whole. I heard it's fucking incredible, Yeah, the but I only watched guy, the a little bit. Or I guy managed might have distracted,

**[0:02:09] Duncan Trussell:** to, like, slash both his re, like the way he committed suicide, it's very suspicious.

**[0:02:14] Joe Rogan:** Like the Enron whistleblower that shot himself in the head twice, that guy's fun

**[0:02:18] Kurt Metzger:** did he shoot himself in the head twice? twice. twice. Like Gary, really Whoopsies like the guy, like, like, like Gary Webb, let wow,

**[0:02:24] Joe Rogan:** Gary Webb did it to No, maybe the Enron guy didn't, maybe I'm just thinking of Gary Webb.

**[0:02:28] Kurt Metzger:** well, the w- the, uh,

**[0:02:29] Joe Rogan:** I might be intoxicated.

**[0:02:30] Kurt Metzger:** who's the one? The Clintons? They always Might say that they be irrelevant. killed, um, That one's Vince Foster, so he that's a fucking was like,

**[0:02:36] Joe Rogan:** weird one, man. The strange Yo, death of Vince Foster is a great book.

**[0:02:40] Duncan Trussell:** What's that?

**[0:02:41] Joe Rogan:** I read that book in, like, fuck, it was like wait, the early

**[0:02:44] Kurt Metzger:** I think that guy was 2000s. on Jimmy's show just recently and I didn't know that. And he was saying, No, the Clintons didn't, didn't do it every. They took the blame for it. But no, it's some FBI associated gang, trafficking gang that did it. He probably didn't wanna go along with the with the thing that they're all into, you know?

**[0:02:58] Joe Rogan:** well, perhaps there was probably a bunch of factors, right? Because c- for sure, while Clinton was governor of Arkansas, that's when all that Barry Seal stuff was going on in Mena, Arkansas, where they're dropping off coke. So the mean, the there's that, right, cartel, so there's that, for sure. But then there's also that, uh, that scheme that they were doing, that real estates, uh, real estate scandal.

**[0:03:19] Jamie Vernon:** it wasn't shot twice, but there's, uh, weird stuff oh, wait, about it.

**[0:03:21] Kurt Metzger:** I forgot to tell you the most

**[0:03:22] Joe Rogan:** So the Gary Webb was the one who got shot in the head twice, right?

**[0:03:25] Kurt Metzger:** V. Vince Foster, this is the thing that blew my mind, because, uh, uh, and Jimmy has sat on this for a year, cause he thought it sounded too far out. There's an interview I c- and I couldn't believe when I saw it, the the guy. When he was researching, uh, there was a reporter that was like a supposed, like, you know, like, uh, how I consider Ben Swann to be a good guy reporter, like, supposedly like that.

**[0:03:42] Kurt Metzger:** But he wasn't. He was a piece of shit helping cover it up, according to according to this guy. And that guy's name, that reporter, was Chris Ruddy, who's now the guy who runs Newsmax. He's a billionaire now. That's what this guy said. Now I can't How did he become tell you I

**[0:03:57] Joe Rogan:** a billionaire?

**[0:03:57] Kurt Metzger:** proven it and whatever, but How did a news um,

**[0:03:59] Joe Rogan:** reporter become a billionaire?

**[0:04:00] Kurt Metzger:** um, I'm sure legitimately, I'm sure there's nothing. You know, I don't wanna be, uh, that's totally normal, I get blip pegged as one of these conspiracy guys, which I'm not. I I just You're wanna definitely not,

**[0:04:12] Duncan Trussell:** not at all.

**[0:04:12] Joe Rogan:** not at all. Um, so was the Whitewater real estate scandal that Vince Foster was also entangled in. So there was like, there was a lot going down with that. And then they found him dead, but there was more blood missing from his body than was at the scene of the crime.

**[0:04:26] Duncan Trussell:** What?

**[0:04:26] Joe Rogan:** His body clearly had been moved, also, the gun was in this his hand.

**[0:04:29] Kurt Metzger:** guy wrote it, this motherfucker wrote the book, he's in on the cover-up. That guy was telling us, That's amazing, Yo, that's amazing, yeah,

**[0:04:37] Joe Rogan:** that's amazing, cause that book is writ. So now I have to rethink everything that I read in that book.

**[0:04:43] Kurt Metzger:** well, I tell you that interview, Because dude, you should watch, cause that guy was really fascinating. And I, I had never even thought about Vince Foster for a long time.

**[0:04:49] Joe Rogan:** well, it's like what they always say Trump is doing, he's doing 4D chess, like these guys are like some, some people but just not in are

**[0:04:55] Kurt Metzger:** your favor, idiots. right. Yeah, it's He's not not doing 4D that, not that. Help chess, where he tells you everything. you. Remember he came on here and he was, like, sounding pretty good, and then immediately, uh, rug pulled everyone. Like, how long that take? The rug pull of Trump, would you say? How Wouldn, wouldn't long for him to it be like learn? Iran?

**[0:05:11] Joe Rogan:** the war in Iran was a what a year

**[0:05:13] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, he waited a year.

**[0:05:14] Kurt Metzger:** Well, then we have the stupid, um, war on drug narco terror, which is always fa- anybody talk about that's a fucking lying phony. So the Department of War, the only the guy's got all the broil cream in his fucking hair and the Templar tattoos. Hagseth That's right.

**[0:05:28] Joe Rogan:** you gotta see him. Yeah, I guess So that. But you think the war on drugs is fake, like when they're blowing up those, what do you think is going on?

**[0:05:37] Kurt Metzger:** uh, I I think, uh, most of them are probably marijuana guys. D not even going to America. The idea of Venezuelan cocaine is prop- I, I used to do a lot of coke, dude, and I, I heard every kind of cocaine. Never heard no Venezuela coke.

**[0:05:48] Duncan Trussell:** That's true. I've never heard of

**[0:05:49] Kurt Metzger:** No, this is pure Venezuelan,

**[0:05:51] Duncan Trussell:** Venezuelan Hagseth. dude. You ever Is it only

**[0:05:52] Kurt Metzger:** heard that?

**[0:05:52] Joe Rogan:** Venezuela that they were blowing up those boats,

**[0:05:54] Duncan Trussell:** Well, maybe they were moving They just murdered the wealth through

**[0:05:56] Kurt Metzger:** people. Uh, I assume you, Venezuela. you already know this. Uh, I, I do it for the podcast But I I think people here, but

**[0:06:00] Joe Rogan:** they were probably trying to cripple their money train before they invaded them. Oh, I was reading about what they did to them.

**[0:06:07] Duncan Trussell:** What? Oh my god, Oh yeah, the new the weapon, the new

**[0:06:09] Joe Rogan:** the brain bleed.

**[0:06:09] Duncan Trussell:** weapon. Oh, it's like, swells your shit up. Yeah, they It just

**[0:06:12] Joe Rogan:** said it doesn't. It's non-lethal in a sense, cause it doesn't actually kill you. the Havana syndrome But you're, yeah, yeah, yeah, the thing. stuff they use in Venezuela, but you're fucking done

**[0:06:21] Kurt Metzger:** I don't think they did use like they boil it.

**[0:06:22] Joe Rogan:** your brain.

**[0:06:23] Duncan Trussell:** they boil your ass.

**[0:06:24] Kurt Metzger:** I don't think they did use. I think Maduro and his wife, they got their ass out of there, cause the the regime's still in place, by the way. I don't even know what the point would be of taking him out if you still have the same army Let's take this regime.

**[0:06:33] Joe Rogan:** one step at a time. Pentagon allows DHS to test a heat-ray weapon for possible use at the border. Okay, but what is the find out that thing that they, Discombobulator

**[0:06:44] Duncan Trussell:** the discombobulator.

**[0:06:45] Joe Rogan:** yeah, is that what they're calling it? But they were talking about it today, like what it actually Up to date, does. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, at least on this article that someone sent me on Twitter.

**[0:06:53] Duncan Trussell:** Doesn't it raise the temperature of your like cells by a little bit or something? It just like fries your insides. But It's just they the thing,

**[0:07:00] Kurt Metzger:** microwaveing you. It's a microwave,

**[0:07:02] Joe Rogan:** it's just they were saying that it doesn't kill you, so it's non-lethal, technically, uh, technically, but you're never the same. you're fucked, you have Well, and beanbag

**[0:07:08] Duncan Trussell:** burns in your face.

**[0:07:09] Kurt Metzger:** fucking shotguns are, they say, less than lethal. I thought,

**[0:07:12] Joe Rogan:** The beanbags are not as scary as the rubber bullets. The rubber bullets Yeah, I'll take your eyes

**[0:07:16] Kurt Metzger:** kill you. out, those take your eyes out. There's people

**[0:07:18] Joe Rogan:** who've lost eyeballs to rubber bullets, That's why I carry people they shoot a s a you right in the face walrus backup, with those fucking walrus backup things. everywhere. But the That's shit,

**[0:07:23] Duncan Trussell:** the story that people report when Venezuela was invaded is insane. insane. Like these, like super soldiers with these weird fucking headsets on, everyone's falling down, shitting their pants, their eyes are bleeding.

**[0:07:36] Kurt Metzger:** I bet you that's not true.

**[0:07:37] Joe Rogan:** I bet it is true. So those super soldier helmets, that's the

**[0:07:40] Kurt Metzger:** No, I'm sure they have endos, that. I'm not saying that's they don't.

**[0:07:41] Jamie Vernon:** the heat ray is a story I'm saying to change

**[0:07:43] Kurt Metzger:** I don't think they used from, like, it there.

**[0:07:44] Jamie Vernon:** last 24 hours, and I type a non-lethal weapon.

**[0:07:47] Joe Rogan:** right, right, right. But I'm saying what they used in Venezuela, I mean, they were discussing specifically, like what they used in Venezuela as a non-lethal weapon. Venezuela Trump administration. D So this is different, I think,

**[0:08:06] Duncan Trussell:** a heat gun.

**[0:08:07] Joe Rogan:** cause if they're already testing it, th- they fucking did this already in the Venezuela stuff. Whatever it was, whoever was talking about it, I should probably have saved it. I'm just trying to stay offline, I'm just trying to keep

**[0:08:20] Duncan Trussell:** Are you really? How? how? how many? how many hours of screen time do you think you you're doing a day?

**[0:08:26] Joe Rogan:** I d. I still s watch stuff, but it's mostly YouTube videos that most of my use on my phone, if I'm bored, is YouTube videos. And it's all pretty either educational or interesting.

**[0:08:38] Duncan Trussell:** if you had to guess social media, how many? how An hour, many?

**[0:08:40] Joe Rogan:** hour a day.

**[0:08:41] Duncan Trussell:** That's that's admirable.

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**[0:11:13] Duncan Trussell:** time, Jamie? Do they have Probably five or that?

**[0:11:15] Joe Rogan:** 6 hours.

**[0:11:15] Duncan Trussell:** That's insane.

**[0:11:16] Joe Rogan:** Yeah, it's probably five or 6 hours, and on good days, I have 0 hours. Good days. I just stay completely off of it,

**[0:11:22] Duncan Trussell:** Those are the best days.

**[0:11:22] Joe Rogan:** but today wasn't a good day. Today I got up early, had to take my kid somewhere, and then I got up in the morning and did a little work. Then I was tired, I took a shit, and that's when I started watching my phone. Then I watched my phone a little bit and then I'm like, all right, I gotta get to work. But it was like, after eating breakfast and sitting there with your phone on, you just feel like such a loser.

**[0:11:41] Joe Rogan:** You're like, seven I'm wasting time.

**[0:11:42] Duncan Trussell:** hours a seven fucking hours a day,

**[0:11:45] Kurt Metzger:** I'm usually ahead of it. Crazy It would be fair to me. At my hours, that's forty nine hours crazy.

**[0:11:50] Duncan Trussell:** a week.

**[0:11:51] Joe Rogan:** now. Imagine kids with no self-control and, uh, teachers that aren't paying attention, so they have access to them at school.

**[0:11:58] Kurt Metzger:** Dude, even if they are paying attention, it's not good. It's nothing good. It's all poison nothing good. Uh, coming in,

**[0:12:03] Joe Rogan:** most of it's poison, most of it's poison, but you can curate it and make it not poison if you're just smart with what you do. Like, I get something out of YouTube videos, I get something out of, like things that are interesting, like ancient history stuff and stuff on cosmology and astronomy. That stuff is interesting to me. I I'm always gonna like, look at those, but do cause I'm

**[0:12:23] Duncan Trussell:** do you guys?

**[0:12:23] Joe Rogan:** just fascinated.

**[0:12:24] Duncan Trussell:** Do you guys remember the sorry to cut you off? Do you guys remember the YouTube Spider-Man videos? Do you remember those? They're Okay, Spider-Man really, really good. Elsa,

**[0:12:32] Kurt Metzger:** it's one of the reasons for the apocalypse.

**[0:12:34] Duncan Trussell:** Jamie, can you pull that up? Jamie, do you mind pulling up the Spider-Man Elsa videos? Which is, if you left your kid on YouTube long enough before they changed it? It was like a slippery slope that led to increasingly fucked up videos, and no one was sure where these videos were coming from. And that it was, it was, and they Do you know all they

**[0:12:52] Kurt Metzger:** what the final explanation was? what, yeah, So this is, this is geez, the one that I would have explained it with is okay. So they basically use an algorithm they know kids psychologically are fascinated with, like getting a shot or pregnancy or whatever, Or violence, or violence or bugs. And they mix it together into gibberish that's colorful, so the kids stay on it. And then, okay, so that's the, uh, the main, and that's probably pretty reasonable, but no, I think that's testing something, too.

**[0:13:18] Kurt Metzger:** I don't, I don't think it was just, oh, it was just these greedy people were doing a thing. There is no way something like that exists that our fo- our, our government didn't learn everything they could about it and how to weaponize, and also it was probably them.

**[0:13:30] Duncan Trussell:** it gave you. Can you find an actual cartoon of it, Jamie? Cause it it gave you a weird feeling watching them, like it felt bad.

**[0:13:37] Joe Rogan:** There was a lot of the cartoons. They'd get drunk and someone would smash their head and there'd be blood all over the place, and

**[0:13:42] Kurt Metzger:** So they get a shot

**[0:13:42] Joe Rogan:** you were like, What the fuck?

**[0:13:43] Kurt Metzger:** or Spider-Man's pregnant, and then after he gives birth, he's so relieved, like he took Spider-Man a shit.

**[0:13:47] Joe Rogan:** got pregnant.

**[0:13:48] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, dude, they're gibberish things, but that's to go right to the subconscious.

**[0:13:52] Joe Rogan:** Wasn't there some of those things where they showed that pedophiles were communicating with each other in the comments? They were, like, using comments in Are you the code word most of the things they, they,

**[0:14:01] Kurt Metzger:** for kids?

**[0:14:01] Duncan Trussell:** they were just so like Roblox they would.

**[0:14:03] Kurt Metzger:** and every other thing like that? They'd have like

**[0:14:05] Duncan Trussell:** kid videos, like, you know, kids at a swimming pool, and then they would the the. In the comments would be the exact time where if you went to that frame, you could see a kid's ass. Like, that's what they were doing is so that you'd have It's kind to waste of suspicious that your time

**[0:14:17] Kurt Metzger:** you know that.

**[0:14:18] Duncan Trussell:** watching the whole watching the whole video. What's the timestamp? If Yeah,

**[0:14:21] Kurt Metzger:** that's a test, if you know, then you're going to jail. the timestamp, generally That's where you see the three, twenty CH two, Generally.

**[0:14:30] Joe Rogan:** Is there a number that's attached to, like, pedophile stuff, like 420s attached to weed? I don't know, probably, They probably know, like, 187 is murder, probably. right?

**[0:14:38] Duncan Trussell:** It seems like they got a lot of code words, for sure.

**[0:14:40] Joe Rogan:** Oh, for sure.

**[0:14:41] Duncan Trussell:** It's a whole thriving underground. Pizza beef jerky, Yep, yep, You know, pizza, I'll one should ever

**[0:14:46] Kurt Metzger:** just have a piece of cocaine.

**[0:14:46] Joe Rogan:** complain. They should whoever the fuck wrote those emails, that's alive, they should be brought into a room publicly. Like, what are you talking about?

**[0:14:54] Duncan Trussell:** yeah, why hasn't that happened? Well, they brought What do you? What him out, but then

**[0:14:56] Joe Rogan:** is beef?

**[0:14:56] Kurt Metzger:** they can't. He decided he didn't do anything.

**[0:14:57] Joe Rogan:** what is b? What is beef jerky? Yeah, they didn't. That guy just I met him once, Well, met him once,

**[0:15:03] Kurt Metzger:** he was really gross.

**[0:15:04] Joe Rogan:** his neighbors to him for, like, 20 years.

**[0:15:06] Kurt Metzger:** He had a massage table in his living room. My wife said, This man's gross. Yeah, and we left,

**[0:15:11] Joe Rogan:** and we left. Ugh. And then the emails come out. How many emails did he have with the guy?

**[0:15:15] Kurt Metzger:** I don't know. Bringing a ton of kids there to the P person is so creepy. He's bringing all of all their kids and some other kids.

**[0:15:20] Joe Rogan:** It's just a vacation, right?

**[0:15:21] Kurt Metzger:** Age is, uh, s, yeah, Relax, no, when you go on vacation,

**[0:15:24] Joe Rogan:** we're going on vacation.

**[0:15:24] Kurt Metzger:** hey, you're a guy with money, People love the beach, you bring extra kids when you go on vacation, right

**[0:15:28] Duncan Trussell:** just the beach.

**[0:15:29] Kurt Metzger:** to a creep's house. A guy that you said It's like was really creepy, spare tires. Someone dies,

**[0:15:34] Joe Rogan:** extra kids.

**[0:15:35] Duncan Trussell:** yeah, it's really spooky, man, and it's really

**[0:15:38] Joe Rogan:** Fucking bizarre.

**[0:15:38] Duncan Trussell:** s. And but now the new, you know what? The new thing is is like, stop talking about Epstein.

**[0:15:45] Joe Rogan:** Is that the new thing?

**[0:15:46] Duncan Trussell:** Well, yeah, Fuentes has been saying that, like Fuentes has been saying, not just just

**[0:15:49] Kurt Metzger:** him. A lot of Chris Ruddy, uh, uh, Israel trip takers, like your Gavin McGinnis is and what have you? Okay, but devil's advocate, please.

**[0:15:58] Joe Rogan:** why are they doing that? If, Why are you uh, do you do you think

**[0:16:00] Kurt Metzger:** laughing?

**[0:16:01] Joe Rogan:** it's possibly that they think, hey, look, nothing's gonna change. This Epstein stuff is a giant distraction. There's real shit we should be paying attention to right now, like the midterms, like Iran, like whatever the fuck is happening in France, like all this stuff Question that

**[0:16:15] Kurt Metzger:** So you're saying the the cannibal pedophile thing is less of a real thing than the midterms,

**[0:16:21] Joe Rogan:** no, no, what I'm saying is the people that are online that are, you know, air quote influencers and people talking about the news,

**[0:16:27] Kurt Metzger:** They're doing it on purpose, they're cause they're paid. Then the morons well, this that go along is with it say the thing you're saying,

**[0:16:32] Joe Rogan:** perhaps, but this is why I'm saying devil's advocate. So, like, if I'm saying you're asking,

**[0:16:36] Kurt Metzger:** walrus baculum.

**[0:16:37] Joe Rogan:** that's a fake one, we have a real one. Why I know sh- why I feel like are you fucking a fraud around with real now, cause I know ones?

**[0:16:41] Kurt Metzger:** it is.

**[0:16:42] Joe Rogan:** I think is it on the, uh, the sea serpent table out so that's the there? last time I saw Ah, the sea him.

**[0:16:47] Duncan Trussell:** serpent tables where you keep your baculum,

**[0:16:49] Joe Rogan:** bro, have you seen that

**[0:16:49] Duncan Trussell:** of course.

**[0:16:50] Joe Rogan:** table? Oh, it's the dopest that guy, the dao, the guy that did our the guy that did our table in our green room at the club with the snake. Oh, god, that guy's amazing, man. He did Oh, he called do. Do we have a f- Oh, dude, he's so good, he's so good. He's g- He made me an alligator. There's an alligator out there that's like surfacing out of the water that I have in the pool room.

**[0:17:08] Joe Rogan:** But on the table, there's a sea serpent one, and it's the fucking shit, man. It's got boats and this sea serpent's coming out of the water. We have a video of it, right? I think there's a video of it on my Instagram.

**[0:17:17] Jamie Vernon:** but I'm, uh, down in people who smoke cigars, Broward, I was in

**[0:17:20] Kurt Metzger:** dude, it's disgusting. Elsagate as I'm looking Oh, wait, but well, for a video hold on. But before about, ah,

**[0:17:23] Joe Rogan:** we get to that, please shit, well, pa- pause and find that, um, that table. I just while we're on the subject, I'll forget it, cause I wanna give this guy some credit, cause he's, uh, he's really fucking good, he's super talented.

**[0:17:34] Duncan Trussell:** I love you got a sea serpent table with a authentic walrus dick on it.

**[0:17:38] Joe Rogan:** Well, the walrus dick was given to me by Stephen Rinella. So this is, uh, this is, it is. It's the underscore Dow Oh, that's cool. on, Yeah, Dowd's always uh, so

**[0:17:48] Kurt Metzger:** been weird. that's the table that's Yeah,

**[0:17:50] Joe Rogan:** in our studio.

**[0:17:50] Kurt Metzger:** I love that.

**[0:17:51] Joe Rogan:** That's the one that we had to saw in half to get up the stairs because we it was originally for the st. It was originally for here, rather, for the studio. And then I said, that belongs in the comedy club, that really belongs as the green room. Find the the sea serpent one, though, Jamie. He made me a Where's he s. I think that's

**[0:18:08] Kurt Metzger:** from?

**[0:18:08] Joe Rogan:** it. Hold on, go to the left, that's it right there. Click on that, that's it. Look at that fucking look at that, thing. Look, it's got a boat and wha- look at the sea serpent coming out of the water. that's This is where it gets crazy at the end. Oh, that's not this is ours,

**[0:18:22] Jamie Vernon:** not exactly ours, it's close,

**[0:18:22] Joe Rogan:** that's not exactly ours.

**[0:18:23] Jamie Vernon:** so we could. That's just another one, Still

**[0:18:25] Joe Rogan:** that's another one. That's pretty cool. I thought that was, oh, that's an octopus one, that's different. That's awesome, dude, the He's insane.

**[0:18:30] Kurt Metzger:** wait, the wait.

**[0:18:31] Joe Rogan:** Scott Dow, he's really fucking talented.

**[0:18:34] Duncan Trussell:** Oh, look at the bottom, it's underneath it, too. That's fucking cool.

**[0:18:37] Joe Rogan:** oh, dude, he's so sick, and he does a lot of it. He the beginning work, he does it all with chainsaws, man.

**[0:18:43] Kurt Metzger:** Does he have like smaller, like a number 2 chainsaw that's a smaller? Well, he gets down

**[0:18:47] Duncan Trussell:** get a grip.

**[0:18:48] Joe Rogan:** to the nitty gritty, and then he starts using complex tools. But, um, okay, it's before that,

**[0:18:54] Duncan Trussell:** Swimming dog classic swimming dog table.

**[0:18:58] Jamie Vernon:** We've had it for a few years now, so this is only, like, six months ago.

**[0:19:01] Joe Rogan:** I know, but he reposts stuff. I follow him on Instagram. Um, he's super fucking talented, though, man. He does a lot of these now. When we blew him up on the internet, he, uh, he got real popular, but he was real popular, Oh, I know right?

**[0:19:16] Kurt Metzger:** a guy who makes fake See, it's on, walrus dick bones.

**[0:19:18] Joe Rogan:** it's on my Instagram.

**[0:19:20] Duncan Trussell:** what is that made out You see, it's Scott of? Is that made Bak- out of bone?

**[0:19:23] Joe Rogan:** Scott Bakula. it's right It's no, next to his name, that's fake, that's fake, but the one we have outside is actually, uh,

**[0:19:28] Kurt Metzger:** but it's a sound design.

**[0:19:29] Joe Rogan:** fossilized giant walrus dick. But what's the So is a giant. material? Sorry, Originally, it was a bone. no, he, oh, that's Oh, that's like

**[0:19:38] Kurt Metzger:** This is some kind of wood. plastic, plastic,

**[0:19:39] Joe Rogan:** it's fake.

**[0:19:40] Kurt Metzger:** I mean, who cares? It's a frog.

**[0:19:42] Duncan Trussell:** me too.

**[0:19:42] Joe Rogan:** Are you sure? Can I feel it? Are you sure it's fake? Go ahead. This is I'm a good the tip. I'm actually detector of

**[0:19:46] Kurt Metzger:** holding the tip, you're holding

**[0:19:46] Joe Rogan:** of dicks.

**[0:19:47] Kurt Metzger:** the base. A lot of it's just

**[0:19:49] Joe Rogan:** Let me smell it. talent. Oh God,

**[0:19:50] Kurt Metzger:** Does it smell, right?

**[0:19:51] Joe Rogan:** No, it does smell fake.

**[0:19:53] Kurt Metzger:** It tastes weird, too, dude. I noticed that right away. does it Could smell feel weird a fake walrus

**[0:19:56] Joe Rogan:** when it's in your asshole? dick from a mile I noticed it tasted away. weird. The second They're pretty sure.

**[0:19:59] Kurt Metzger:** I had it.

**[0:20:00] Joe Rogan:** How many? how many guys have fisted each other with one of these? A lot, For sure, more than one. Usually

**[0:20:04] Kurt Metzger:** we sit on these and do many,

**[0:20:06] Joe Rogan:** But if you have a baculum and I have a baculum, okay, then it's not as rare as we think, cause we both have them. And you didn't know I had one, right? you've still So how many guys you got the back you got have baculum? windows.

**[0:20:15] Kurt Metzger:** me good with that one.

**[0:20:16] Joe Rogan:** So how many guys have stuffed these up their ass? That's the question. More Well, than one

**[0:20:19] Kurt Metzger:** cause taxes.

**[0:20:19] Joe Rogan:** thousand? I was just thinking,

**[0:20:20] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, easily, easily.

**[0:20:22] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, don't you, you know, that's a joke you have. But I think Texas has stronger, it has stronger, uh, uh, dildo laws than gun laws. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the That's just, I mean, joke, yeah, it does. And so this is the kind of thing that I think is gonna will, at least, if they can't get it in the shops, they're gonna get it from walrus baculum.

**[0:20:38] Joe Rogan:** that's right. Yeah. Or they're gonna carve their own, you know, like good old-fashioned ingenuity prison style and know-how. This is One of the is this more ones, the mom of a tallerico

**[0:20:44] Jamie Vernon:** had to be a cane.

**[0:20:45] Kurt Metzger:** or the other guy issue?

**[0:20:47] Joe Rogan:** Walrus baculum cane with a 24-karat gold-plated handle. Whoa, wow. Is that the

**[0:20:52] Kurt Metzger:** What?

**[0:20:52] Duncan Trussell:** former owner?

**[0:20:53] Joe Rogan:** yeah, look at him. Um, I have this Well, I have this friend, in my rectum. Starting bid only ten bucks. That's Wow, that's it.

**[0:21:00] Duncan Trussell:** a good deal.

**[0:21:01] Joe Rogan:** Oh, this is a long time ago. This Twenty is, uh, four karat gold. Wayne

**[0:21:04] Kurt Metzger:** oh, from God's ear to my taint.

**[0:21:07] Joe Rogan:** and a photo of Wayne Hudson, original owner,

**[0:21:10] Duncan Trussell:** The current bid is only 120 And take a bucks. picture of me unless you have he's and keep a soul, it's

**[0:21:14] Kurt Metzger:** it with this whale dick, sold. which he has, uh, cane that,

**[0:21:16] Joe Rogan:** You gotta put headphones on so we could all hear each other, otherwise we're gonna talk over each I was looking for other

**[0:21:20] Jamie Vernon:** Elsagate. It said. It keeps sending videos from about a year ago where it's saying Elsagate 3.0 is starting up, and a bunch of AI videos are being used to make it. And then again. I was trying to, like, cut in because shit, I saw this pop up and I was like, I'm always What the fuck?

**[0:21:31] Kurt Metzger:** late tonight.

**[0:21:32] Jamie Vernon:** Fuck is this? oh my god,

**[0:21:34] Kurt Metzger:** It's candy. It's part of

**[0:21:35] Duncan Trussell:** is that AI? the Elsagate. No, That's AI?

**[0:21:37] Jamie Vernon:** it's not. I don't. I mean,

**[0:21:38] Duncan Trussell:** I don't wanna see this, I don't think it Jamie, I don't wanna shows that see that It's not real, way. one.

**[0:21:40] Kurt Metzger:** though, is it? It's not,

**[0:21:42] Duncan Trussell:** Oh my fucking. And so you leave your kids sitting in front of the TV, they're gonna end up seeing a little red canary get decapitated. That's all you can't but then it turns do that.

**[0:21:51] Kurt Metzger:** into candy, so it's okay. Yeah, Yeah, well, that's but

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**[0:22:57] Duncan Trussell:** it's fucking weird. Th- this,

**[0:22:59] Joe Rogan:** like, what are those videos? I don't Like, what do you think know. is the somebody had it's, it's, to put effort into these?

**[0:23:03] Kurt Metzger:** well, yeah, it's, uh, it's to speak to the subconscious. It's like your twilight language.

**[0:23:07] Joe Rogan:** So what do you think it's doing to your kids? Like, what, what, what is the goal It's of these videos?

**[0:23:11] Duncan Trussell:** discombobulating them, it's giving them nightmares. It's like he's saying, it's getting deep into It's turning your psyche.

**[0:23:16] Kurt Metzger:** into a fucking gender blob.

**[0:23:17] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, yeah, I mean, this is the kind of shit the person who, like, this is all the shooters, probably what they were watching as kids. Go back to that, what So the pregnant do you think, spider-man,

**[0:23:26] Kurt Metzger:** Yo, this is shit that an MKULTRA in the 50s, you'd see that have to watch,

**[0:23:29] Duncan Trussell:** shit?

**[0:23:29] Kurt Metzger:** you'd be forced to watch it all night.

**[0:23:30] Jamie Vernon:** This next one's a video You need to have that's like Vietnam or ping pong balls on something.

**[0:23:33] Kurt Metzger:** your eyes and have to watch that shit.

**[0:23:35] Duncan Trussell:** And and they just get pumped out, like, that's what's weird about it is they just appear, these channels appear, they get populated with these bizarre animations, they disappear, they reappear.

**[0:23:45] Joe Rogan:** well, what's really weird is they started coming out before AI was even available. So somebody had to put some money into making those cartoons.

**[0:23:50] Duncan Trussell:** that's right, yeah.

**[0:23:51] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, shit.

**[0:23:52] Duncan Trussell:** And also there's a lot of animation f- in in Vietnam, a lot of people send their shit to get animated there. So

**[0:23:58] Kurt Metzger:** Hey, um, how? How about this? We already know the damage just growing up with Disney cartoons did to everyone. What, We already see the damage of that.

**[0:24:06] Joe Rogan:** what did it do?

**[0:24:06] Kurt Metzger:** Well, Disney adults, for one thing, do you think that's a thing that should exist? You don't think that's They're happy, a they're happy. If the fuck they weren't are you?

**[0:24:14] Joe Rogan:** doing that, they'd be trading coins

**[0:24:17] Duncan Trussell:** says the guy dressed like an elf,

**[0:24:19] Joe Rogan:** from a hot dog.

**[0:24:19] Duncan Trussell:** listen to fucking hot dog, No, dude, it's, fucking. It's bad. it's, it's absolutely Listen to the techno wild. cowboy, And then Listen to the CIA CIA cowboy here. Sorry, sorry,

**[0:24:30] Joe Rogan:** Jesus Christ, we're on the air. Dude,

**[0:24:35] Kurt Metzger:** okay, blows your cover every time.

**[0:24:37] Joe Rogan:** Peter Thiel's gonna be texting you after this is over. Stop hitting he's texted

**[0:24:41] Kurt Metzger:** on me.

**[0:24:41] Duncan Trussell:** me three times already during Ugh, this show.

**[0:24:44] Kurt Metzger:** I only hang out with

**[0:24:45] Joe Rogan:** so what do you think happened sororous boys, to the Disney boys,

**[0:24:47] Kurt Metzger:** the Disney boys.

**[0:24:48] Joe Rogan:** people that watch Disney? Wait, is that Disney boys, Disney

**[0:24:51] Kurt Metzger:** wait that? boys. That's How do you know

**[0:24:53] Duncan Trussell:** like the worst shit of all all time.

**[0:24:54] Joe Rogan:** You need a podcast?

**[0:24:55] Duncan Trussell:** Whatever it is, is horrible. We should make wait a an AI show

**[0:24:57] Kurt Metzger:** wait? called the Disney Boys, Yeah, how do you know just based about our business?

**[0:25:00] Joe Rogan:** on these guys that are the cool guys that are a part of the Disney gang. You know, Disney gangs,

**[0:25:05] Kurt Metzger:** The Disney boys?

**[0:25:06] Joe Rogan:** like you have gangs where you have to do certain things to be in the gang, like you have dude, that's to get kicked real. off of a ride, you have to disrupt. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's part of, like, some of the Disney gangs. Well, I They actually

**[0:25:16] Kurt Metzger:** used to be a Kia boy, but I I had to step it down cause I had ankle bracelets, so I stepped down to being a Disney boy.

**[0:25:22] Duncan Trussell:** Disney boy. Those kind of hijinks,

**[0:25:24] Joe Rogan:** Kia, like the car company.

**[0:25:25] Kurt Metzger:** the Kia boys, the steal Kias, they're easiest to steal cars, so there's gangs of Kia boys that just steal Kia.

**[0:25:31] Joe Rogan:** Oh, I have heard of that. I've never Yeah,

**[0:25:33] Duncan Trussell:** heard of that.

**[0:25:33] Joe Rogan:** the like, I apparently a Kias are easy to steal.

**[0:25:36] Jamie Vernon:** Yeah, with, like, a USB key or something really easy, they could do it in like 30 seconds.

**[0:25:38] Duncan Trussell:** no, yeah, that's hilarious.

**[0:25:40] Kurt Metzger:** did you say a USB key? Yeah, it's like a Oh, a Honda His name's

**[0:25:43] Jamie Vernon:** and a Kia, so they could, like, God. they could rip them off real fast.

**[0:25:45] Joe Rogan:** Is that easy? There was 15, like doesn't take a 12, 13 year CIA guy olds, I'm to know that's like,

**[0:25:49] Kurt Metzger:** not gonna be a good Can't be that exciting idea.

**[0:25:51] Duncan Trussell:** to steal a Kia, though. Well, when you're 15,

**[0:25:53] Kurt Metzger:** It is when you post it online and you call yourselves the Kia boys. that's true,

**[0:25:56] Joe Rogan:** you don't even have a driver's license Alex Jones, the yet, so all of a sudden guy that got you're driving,

**[0:25:58] Kurt Metzger:** shot was he had a Kia. really. Yeah, I was like, Oh, maybe he got assassinated, then I heard Kia. I'm like, No, they were just taking his Kia.

**[0:26:06] Duncan Trussell:** Wow, that's sad.

**[0:26:06] Joe Rogan:** Is that really what they were doing?

**[0:26:07] Kurt Metzger:** Is it?

**[0:26:08] Duncan Trussell:** That's so sad.

**[0:26:08] Joe Rogan:** They shot him because they were stealing his Kia.

**[0:26:10] Kurt Metzger:** As soon as I heard he had a Kia, I'm like, that's a plausible reason

**[0:26:12] Duncan Trussell:** It's so depressing. why. Um, and they the I used guy's recording,

**[0:26:15] Joe Rogan:** to abandon all investigation because there's a Kia involved. Like,

**[0:26:20] Kurt Metzger:** I abandon all investigation.

**[0:26:21] Joe Rogan:** you're like, he's, it's like, it's solved.

**[0:26:22] Kurt Metzger:** well, I was not look, I wasn't being paid to be Mystery on that case. solved, mystery Mystery solved. boys don't work for free. Yeah, Alex is a friend, but until I get

**[0:26:32] Joe Rogan:** I feel like Disney Boys would be a really good show. Like dude, the Disney the cool, the cool boys, it's guys

**[0:26:37] Kurt Metzger:** kind of all their shows.

**[0:26:38] Joe Rogan:** that of all of the different gangs at Disney, these are the coolest. They're the Disney boys, and everyone wants to get in on the Disney boys.

**[0:26:45] Kurt Metzger:** they're into some sick shit, I'll tell They're very you that.

**[0:26:47] Joe Rogan:** they're gatekeepers. So what do you think happened to people? What, what? What's the major damage from watching Disney?

**[0:26:54] Kurt Metzger:** I mean, everything about it is designed to get into the subconscious and get that sense of magic that, like, forever, you know, to the point of when you're an adult. And then meanwhile, while you're getting poisoned with autism poisons to make people that buy all the products, 80 of them never drive a car. If you ever watch Love on the Spectrum, which liberals love it, by the way, you can see that you they're just a lot of fun.

**[0:27:17] Kurt Metzger:** You tell them who they, what they, what sex they are, you tell them who they like. They're weird about. They don't really reproduce until it's like, socially okay, they, uh, you fuck up Star Wars 10 years in a row, making shitty Star Wars, and they'll still love it and cry when the preview comes on. Those are the perfect citizens, okay? And then you got that nice Disney thing to fixate on, cause you got people that, you know, uh, uh, it's not like being a psychopath.

**[0:27:40] Kurt Metzger:** It it they have a they wanna connect, but they have a hard time connecting. So you think that's And autism,

**[0:27:44] Joe Rogan:** by, you think that's by design, like they're making people the most compartmentalized autistic?

**[0:27:49] Kurt Metzger:** people. So then so so they can't look at the big picture. Everybody's being trained to never look at the big picture, as if that's above their pay grade. Like, you're not supposed to ever assemble these things, you're not supposed to remember anything for more than a month, and, uh, almost I no one does.

**[0:28:03] Joe Rogan:** I s. I feel like I agree, and I disagree. I feel like you chain things together that aren't necessarily connected. So

**[0:28:09] Kurt Metzger:** What?

**[0:28:09] Joe Rogan:** here's like, autism, okay, I think autism a a big factor is not just the th- various environmental toxins that people are ingesting, but also a lot of the fucking vaccines they're giving kids. Really young, for sure. I don't think they're doing it's not one that to make thing. people autistic, I think Bro. they're doing that to profit off of these vaccines,

**[0:28:30] Kurt Metzger:** M. Hm. right? I think once You told me China was doing they take that, you advantage once, told me,

**[0:28:35] Joe Rogan:** hopefully, while I'm talking, once they take advantage of it and they understand that it's a thing, then they use it to their advantage. I think once they understand that it's a thing, like, Oh, we're making more autistic people, there's definitely more autistic people. Now. We can kinda weaponize it, now we can kinda like mold them in a certain direction. I don't think they engineered autism. I don't think I like to think, at least, that people aren't that evil, We.

**[0:28:58] Joe Rogan:** Why do that they engineered

**[0:28:58] Kurt Metzger:** you like to? Will you tell me what China did? That thing you told me that they were trying to make their IQs higher, so they were putting something in

**[0:29:03] Joe Rogan:** Yeah, they what they did is they gene edited kids, and they said they did it to, uh, prevent HIV, which, like, who's even worried about HIV today? Fucking zero people, the HIV might have been the greatest psyop since Covid, as far as, like what Fauci did, like, what the way he mind-fucked people with Covid, he mind-fucked people to a much greater extent

**[0:29:24] Kurt Metzger:** Yes, that's right.

**[0:29:25] Joe Rogan:** with HIV. So you don't think

**[0:29:26] Kurt Metzger:** people are evil, though, and after Well, you learn I think about that?

**[0:29:28] Joe Rogan:** individuals like Pa- Fauci, yes, very Oh, just a few capable. bad apples in the No, no, no, fucking darkish shit, no, that's not what

**[0:29:34] Kurt Metzger:** really?

**[0:29:34] Joe Rogan:** I'm saying. I'm saying I don't know if Disney, like, worked together with the government to purposely engineer autism so they can make better

**[0:29:42] Kurt Metzger:** I didn't say the aud- citizens. well, you have a link. I'm not making that. They engineered autism. Personally, it's part of programming. Everything's propaganda coming out of Hollywood since the start. It's Right, but deeply embedded in Pentagon, embedded. Everybody knows that Tommy Lee Jones cousin was a liaison to all, like, Uh, who's that? What's the one with Claire Danes? You ever see Claire Danes when she that's was on that?

**[0:30:00] Joe Rogan:** Alicia. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, Colbert, And she's on right?

**[0:30:02] Kurt Metzger:** that, and she goes, Yeah, he is. She's like a dingbat. It's like, and then we go on the CIA camp, and Colbert, who I think is hip, just cause he did this, he went, Ha ha ha, he had to, like, tamp it down immediately. So no, it's linked very intimately,

**[0:30:17] Joe Rogan:** right, but do you you don't think that Disney, or that these people are purposely working with the government of course, they're to to, like, make

**[0:30:24] Kurt Metzger:** working with the government.

**[0:30:25] Joe Rogan:** more? They like, they want more people autistic, Not everybody you don't think that,

**[0:30:28] Kurt Metzger:** gets this, not everybody gets to know every piece of the thing. I'm just telling you what is the propaganda. So all the complaints now about woke, everything's woke, right? Don't you hate that? right, right, right. But So why is do you it like that?

**[0:30:37] Joe Rogan:** do you think that they're m on purpose making people autistic? Is that are you saying that's part of it?

**[0:30:43] Kurt Metzger:** Whatever? When they discovered this condition from poisons that they're allowed to put it, and that RFK, by the way, sold his out on. They're allowed to put these in the environment after knowing what the shit is. So, yeah, I don't wanna think people are evil, but they are clearly, cause you wouldn't phase that out, you would get rid of it immediately if you didn't like that. It was doing making the frogs gay, how Alex said, in artfully but correctly, that shit mutilates genitals and, uh, s sex genes.

**[0:31:11] Kurt Metzger:** Okay, so once you know it does that, and you're not doing shit, and in fact, it go becomes more, that means you wanna do it. That's how I look at it.

**[0:31:19] Joe Rogan:** I I think they just want the money, they want You the money, they have money, they want the profit. No No, not a b. A major corporation has to increase their revenue every quarter. dude, the corporations That's, that's aren't free, they're the

**[0:31:29] Kurt Metzger:** state, we have state capitalism, they're all. All of them have government contracts.

**[0:31:32] Duncan Trussell:** can I give my theory on this?

**[0:31:34] Kurt Metzger:** Yes, hot dog, thank you.

**[0:31:34] Duncan Trussell:** Okay, this is this, you know, psy-ma, you know, psymatics,

**[0:31:42] Joe Rogan:** cymatics. I know the term, I forget cymatics, what it means.

**[0:31:44] Kurt Metzger:** Oh, it's psy.

**[0:31:44] Duncan Trussell:** it's cymatics. He's a great dude, he's like one of my favorite. See, no

**[0:31:48] Joe Rogan:** Is this like an offshoot cymatics, of Dianetics?

**[0:31:49] Duncan Trussell:** cy- no. It's when you just you put, like Could be ba, you put baby powder on a speaker, and you play certain frequencies, and it forms geometries.

**[0:31:58] Joe Rogan:** Oh, I have seen that. So I I got a plate.

**[0:31:59] Duncan Trussell:** think what both of you are tuning into is a kind of cultural cymatics. That there exists in the world a frequency of greed or evil or selfishness that shows up in these specific ways throughout history, over and over and over again. The exploitation of children, the sacrifice of children, the, uh, the the exploitation of the energy of people to make yourself more powerful. This has been going on since all of recorded history, right? So I said that What?

**[0:32:29] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, he's really smart, and you're you bully him, but he's a nice

**[0:32:32] Kurt Metzger:** he's got bad skin. dude. I, you know how I am,

**[0:32:34] Joe Rogan:** well, let's let's think about just think about the idea of prescribing drugs for kids that are unnecessary, that will kill them, but also make companies a profit. That is child sacrifice. It's just a roundabout, sort of a weird s filtered way where you don't think about it like that. But it's almost like what the Aztecs were doing,

**[0:32:55] Duncan Trussell:** it's very sa- it's just it's exactly

**[0:32:57] Joe Rogan:** It's just you're doing it for money, they're doing it for favor with the gods.

**[0:33:00] Duncan Trussell:** e- so it's like the that's the same the the thing. baby powder that you're pouring on the speaker So I say, ch- it changes color, but it's the same exact shape. It's always child

**[0:33:10] Joe Rogan:** right. So it is child sacrifices. sacrifice. It's just that they dance around this maze, so you don't think of it as child sacrifice. Where they're injecting kids with Covid vaccines and they're all getting strokes, yes, it or not all of them, or it's slavery,

**[0:33:21] Kurt Metzger:** it's not. We. It's not you know, it's slavery. trust, child sacrifice. just I mean, that's a huge part it is of it. Don't get me child sacrifice. wrong, it's part of the of course, it's It's child sacrifice, Elsagate. the whole sacrifice.

**[0:33:28] Duncan Trussell:** Slavery, exploitation. But don't worry, they we use every B- But I mean,

**[0:33:29] Kurt Metzger:** part of the buffalo here.

**[0:33:30] Joe Rogan:** imagine if your company's profiting off of a drug that you know is not necessary to kids, and you know for sure, is killing kids, and you're still doing it for profit. Here, let me explain Child sacrifice, here, here's

**[0:33:42] Kurt Metzger:** Imagine you work in the government how and you let them do that, and you have these bullshit hearings and nothing ever happens or changes, and you have a little stupid play. Imagine that, cause I only been on a new show for now, what, 3 years, and already I'm like, bored of this circle. And people still act like it's normal, and they're not just doing a play, they still you know, act like it's normal.

**[0:33:59] Joe Rogan:** Callie Means just left the White House today. really. Is that the long Yeah, neck the fuck does that mean? Callie dude? From Means was

**[0:34:08] Kurt Metzger:** Trump's Menagerie of Freaks? Have you not seen them?

**[0:34:11] Joe Rogan:** okay. Callie Means, who was working to try to get peptides and all these different things to pass through, said, It's I can't do this. This is like

**[0:34:18] Duncan Trussell:** It's impossible.

**[0:34:18] Joe Rogan:** the deep state's real, and there's all these industry insiders that are embedded in the government. And they say they're gonna do something, and then they do everything they can to slow it down and keep it from happening. Peptides were supposed to be done 2 years ago. All this stuff was supposed to happen long time ago, and they're fucking hitting the brakes on everything because they want money. And again, same kind of thing, right? Making money. How many people are going to lose their health, perhaps vampirism, get very sick, maybe even die, because they don't have access to whatever the fuck they need?

**[0:34:46] Joe Rogan:** And also, you're putting stuff out there still that we have wanted banned for a long time, right? Like, like fucking glyphosate, like they need glyphosate like this. That was the craziest argument when RFK Jr. was on here and he was explaining that to me that they made an executive order to keep glyphosate, because otherwise it would fuck up the food business. So imagine that the food business is reliant on poison. If it doesn't use poison, it can't stay open.

**[0:35:14] Joe Rogan:** We can't operate without

**[0:35:15] Kurt Metzger:** how would it fuck the this poison, business up?

**[0:35:16] Joe Rogan:** cause it would cost so much money to change out their systems from glyphosate herbicide to there's all these different ways they could do it. They use lasers where they fucking scan over the things and they zap the plants that aren't the right ones. And then if they wanted to do everything like j- regenerative farming, that takes fucking a decade. You have to change the soil, you have to do so much, you have to compost, you have to, like, re-energize the bio material that's in the soil and turn it to enriched.

**[0:35:44] Joe Rogan:** Like, you have to add fertilizer, you have to have, like, dead animals and shit, and it's it, it has to, like, become a a living thing again. Cause right now it is, it's a a fucking toxic dust layer that just sits there and keeps anything from. And then they par pour a bunch of fucking minerals and nitrogen and all different things all over it, just so the stuff can grow. And it's like to change that and make it so that you don't need industrial fertilizers, you don't need herbicides, you don't.

**[0:36:11] Joe Rogan:** It'll take fucking forever, and it costs so much money because we've been cr- we've been tricked by these fucking crooks. These people that But it costs decided to make the more. most amount of money and poison pe- probably in initially, they probably didn't realize what they were doing, but once they realized they were poisoning people, they just kept doing it. yeah. But you know, Yeah, we also in some way, we

**[0:36:28] Kurt Metzger:** they've done it on purpose many times. Remember that, don't you remember what they did them kids in Kansas City, what they did to people in San Francisco? They drizzled that cobalt shit on, uh, black kids in, uh, Kansas City. what cobalt The yeah, uh,

**[0:36:40] Duncan Trussell:** shit?

**[0:36:41] Kurt Metzger:** I can't remember what cobalt 13 or something.

**[0:36:43] Joe Rogan:** Was this the one from the fans? No, that was a different This is the thing. The San Francisco

**[0:36:46] Kurt Metzger:** army. They went to a building was the one next to another another building, okay, and then they say, why aren't you using, like a plane? Even they were just spraying it into these What? kids

**[0:36:52] Joe Rogan:** that's right, right, that I don't remember what it

**[0:36:55] Duncan Trussell:** Why?

**[0:36:55] Joe Rogan:** was, though. You said it's cobalt.

**[0:36:56] Kurt Metzger:** to see what what I would do.

**[0:36:58] Joe Rogan:** They wanted to see how much they could affect people in case they wanted to use, like a bioweapon, Well, I'm sure and that's what it's reformed they

**[0:37:04] Kurt Metzger:** since there's no justice ever for these people, I'm sure it's gotten better.

**[0:37:06] Joe Rogan:** well, they did with MKUltra, that stopped. It stopped, Oh, all right,

**[0:37:10] Duncan Trussell:** it did stop.

**[0:37:10] Kurt Metzger:** that's a fair point.

**[0:37:11] Duncan Trussell:** They don't do it anymore. Okay, so but, but San the baculum, Fran

**[0:37:13] Kurt Metzger:** I stand corrected.

**[0:37:14] Joe Rogan:** San Francisco. They were trying to see if they could spread a disease, so they spread like a cold, right, didn't they? Like they spread something like they put it the flu. in the subways, Is that what they did?

**[0:37:24] Duncan Trussell:** I heard they fumigated the subways I think with disease,

**[0:37:26] Joe Rogan:** they did something where they sprayed it in the air, too, because the way the wind was drifting, they wanted to see how many people would infect.

**[0:37:32] Duncan Trussell:** right? And so at that point, I think Metzger's making a fair point. That's evil, You're watching Fair that's not,

**[0:37:37] Kurt Metzger:** Point?

**[0:37:38] Duncan Trussell:** that's, yeah, I love see with Fair Point, fair like the Disney Boys, point with the Disney It's Disney boys, hot dog and CIA. the elf, And the elf, come on, man, I mean, that's evil. I don't think it. And maybe you could argue, just greed is evil, greed is vampirism, maybe you could, that's it's not, the argument it's not just you make. that, that's a

**[0:37:59] Joe Rogan:** breed in a certain level. that's a level. Yeah, Yeah,

**[0:38:00] Duncan Trussell:** But do vampires think they're evil? what's above Or

**[0:38:03] Kurt Metzger:** that, though? That's, I'm a royal. I'm not saying it literally, the royals, but also them. But that feeling of I want eugenics for me and I want dysgenics for you.

**[0:38:12] Duncan Trussell:** do you?

**[0:38:13] Kurt Metzger:** I'm gonna be a living God by pushing you down to the category of mineral, thereby making me, uh, uh, a s, you know, a special, uh, transhuman fucking nightmare from the Dune series.

**[0:38:23] Joe Rogan:** what is this? Jamie?

**[0:38:24] Duncan Trussell:** It was a great series. I don't think they're on night I'll get back to right now. ZI- you as far Oh, that's as the bike, hold on,

**[0:38:27] Kurt Metzger:** cadmium sulfide.

**[0:38:28] Jamie Vernon:** hold on, let me get to the top to show you.

**[0:38:31] Joe Rogan:** what?

**[0:38:32] Jamie Vernon:** This is the, uh, historical background of the US. biological warfare program, and it gets into,

**[0:38:39] Joe Rogan:** 1941? They started Holy shit,

**[0:38:41] Jamie Vernon:** well, yeah, here's a a total of 160 tests using various stimulants, Fun maybe stimulants, but I don't know. Simulants, stimulants. simulating, yeah,

**[0:38:49] Joe Rogan:** they're simulating disease. What's your They conducted at 66

**[0:38:51] Duncan Trussell:** stimulant?

**[0:38:52] Joe Rogan:** locations, both military and civilian targets in the United States. Holy shit, including Alaska and Hawaii. So they did 160 different tests where they try to infect people, They don't do it or at least pretend

**[0:39:01] Duncan Trussell:** anymore, though.

**[0:39:02] Joe Rogan:** to infect people.

**[0:39:03] Duncan Trussell:** They stopped.

**[0:39:04] Joe Rogan:** Specific dates, locations, and substances used are in an army report, uh, 1977. Conduct of BW testing. Specialized sampling and analysis techniques were used to determine the various parameters of the test requirements and the downwind travel distances. Jesus Christ, look, Bro, dude,

**[0:39:23] Duncan Trussell:** see the subways right there, back New York in service.

**[0:39:26] Kurt Metzger:** they've just got more morales and San Francisco, than Satan.

**[0:39:28] Joe Rogan:** they got they got a lot better, dude.

**[0:39:30] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, I don't know why people think I'm saying They found anything far out ever, because they found this is Nazi-level Jesus. shit here. Well, the we brought all the It is, Nazis, so we're getting it is some Nazi stuff. right, that's Oh, true. They probably did you know

**[0:39:40] Joe Rogan:** learned a lot.

**[0:39:40] Kurt Metzger:** I just found this out? Uh, the OSS, when they, you know, merged with the remaining Nazis of the SS to form the CIA. It

**[0:39:48] Joe Rogan:** What?

**[0:39:48] Kurt Metzger:** wasn't. Yeah, that's how they got that, but it

**[0:39:49] Joe Rogan:** What? was the world's Jesus Christ? collusion.

**[0:39:51] Duncan Trussell:** bro, baby, you gotta let him rip.

**[0:39:53] Kurt Metzger:** What? It's good shit, baby, How do you have all just let him these people? Wait, rip. you had all them CIA guys, none of Hold them know this.

**[0:39:58] Joe Rogan:** on, hold on, say it again, say it again, You had I don't know

**[0:40:00] Kurt Metzger:** all them CIA guys on just here, none of

**[0:40:01] Joe Rogan:** say it again.

**[0:40:02] Kurt Metzger:** them know this.

**[0:40:02] Joe Rogan:** I don't know. That the It was the best. SS

**[0:40:04] Duncan Trussell:** Listen to me, dude. And I'm like, No, I don't know it. No He always one knows this, does that, he looms no one knows over you let me now and you're like, this. tell you No, you don't know, He's got you don't know. his

**[0:40:10] Kurt Metzger:** you know why? vacuum ready to My hat? This hat was not good with the headphones, so and it's really

**[0:40:15] Joe Rogan:** explain it again, the OSS, what happened with the Nazis?

**[0:40:18] Kurt Metzger:** after the war, they merged with the SS. You know, Otto Skorzeny, I believe, uh, that carried on, um, Gladio. That's the strategy of tension, where you fund, like, uh, both sides of the thing, so you, you, you've heard of this

**[0:40:30] Duncan Trussell:** the strategy of tension.

**[0:40:31] Kurt Metzger:** Southern Poverty Law Center. You texted me about when they were doing, they were paying for the Charlottesville thing. That's a strategy yeah, yeah, in of tension. the wild, That goes back to Otto Skorzeny, that goes back to Otto Skorzeny, after the war. That's a Nazi.

**[0:40:42] Joe Rogan:** okay, so they that do you sure that that wasn't like standard techniques that people just u like, eh? Nero burned Rome, right? They've always done things when they're causing but but the term, problems, like,

**[0:40:51] Kurt Metzger:** I mean, the term, yes, but you are correct, but the strategy of tension, that term comes originally from Otto Skorzeny's group, the Gladio. okay, and so they, I maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

**[0:41:00] Joe Rogan:** well, we'll find out. We'll put that in the AI perplexity, Spontaneous ask Perplexity, spontaneity.

**[0:41:05] Duncan Trussell:** I need a perplexity. ask Perplexity, you know

**[0:41:06] Kurt Metzger:** We'll see.

**[0:41:07] Joe Rogan:** how the CIA was formed? Well,

**[0:41:08] Jamie Vernon:** I did ask, and it's very strange what it says here. I'll the last Well, it paragraph is what really matters.

**[0:41:12] Kurt Metzger:** d. It is inaccurate. the OSS I was trying to say,

**[0:41:14] Joe Rogan:** merged with the SS is inaccurate. But The documented history is that American intelligence agencies used former Nazi personnel and networks for Cold War intelligence, they've gotta not that the two have this, wartime organizations merged. Yet, if you have an organization and you have people in that organization and they join your organization, you fucking

**[0:41:32] Duncan Trussell:** what's the difference? merged, That's a merger, okay. But the

**[0:41:34] Joe Rogan:** that's a merger.

**[0:41:35] Kurt Metzger:** the organization above both of them that the CIA is under, and probably still under, I believe, is called the World Commerce Commission. Some shit like that. What

**[0:41:43] Duncan Trussell:** never heard of it.

**[0:41:43] Kurt Metzger:** That's who merged them together, was in charge of that and then making it. Um, uh, if you watch my boy Sean Patrick Hal Hazlett show, uh, Through a Glass Darkly, great if you like

**[0:41:53] Joe Rogan:** say it slowly so people can hear your words. Sean Patrick Hazlett What is the the the other? The term of the show, the name of the show?

**[0:42:00] Kurt Metzger:** through a glass darkly.

**[0:42:02] Joe Rogan:** Okay, through a glass darkly, Tokens a glass darkly, been on it, What

**[0:42:05] Kurt Metzger:** you've been on it on I've been his show.

**[0:42:07] Duncan Trussell:** on that show?

**[0:42:07] Kurt Metzger:** Holy shit, it might be the guest. It is that what this is

**[0:42:11] Duncan Trussell:** Hey man, I'm just a hot dog. I don't know.

**[0:42:16] Kurt Metzger:** from Sean from Turning Point? Sam? Tripoli, Uh, the Turning think tank.

**[0:42:19] Joe Rogan:** Point, Tram Sam Tripoli.

**[0:42:21] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, my think tank.

**[0:42:21] Duncan Trussell:** Oh, through a glass darkly. It's good. I love that show. I remember. Sorry, Sean, I remember now Why do it was you say, a zoo.

**[0:42:26] Joe Rogan:** yeah, my think tank? Like, I'm dumb with the He's got fuck?

**[0:42:29] Duncan Trussell:** a think tank. Yeah, well, When did you start it's just a group

**[0:42:31] Joe Rogan:** that?

**[0:42:31] Kurt Metzger:** tag. It's just not original. I, I probably am overselling it.

**[0:42:34] Duncan Trussell:** you're not overselling it, cause it's got, like, doctors and professors So let's in it,

**[0:42:38] Joe Rogan:** call our our tech thread the think tank, too.

**[0:42:41] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, we should.

**[0:42:42] Kurt Metzger:** Hm, it's already kinda being used on turning points. So

**[0:42:44] Duncan Trussell:** You can have two think tanks,

**[0:42:45] Joe Rogan:** There we go. You have you can have two think tanks.

**[0:42:46] Duncan Trussell:** two think tanks. One of wait, like the cool, the Disney the Disney boys, boys, Disney

**[0:42:49] Joe Rogan:** Disney boys.

**[0:42:50] Kurt Metzger:** boys, dude, Disney boys.

**[0:42:52] Joe Rogan:** Oh my god, dude, are you watching this? Have you watched the Dropout? The Elizabeth Holmes? Hulu series?

**[0:42:57] Kurt Metzger:** No, how is it?

**[0:42:59] Joe Rogan:** It's so good, it's so good. I get I'm be. I'm wondering, is it so good? Because I got really engrossed in the story when I was listening to the Dropout podcast? But I've been watching the show, and, you know, just because I I haven't seen the movie yet. I wanna watch the show and then see the movie. But the fucking sh- that chick, Amanda, what's her name? Amanda, Seafried? Hm, holy shit, is she good, dude?

**[0:43:22] Kurt Metzger:** Oh, she plays her.

**[0:43:22] Joe Rogan:** She's so good, dude. You see her, she slowly starts changing her voice, she's she acts completely autistic through the entire show. She's fucking really good, dude. That mo- that show is crazy. I can't believe I didn't even hear Look at the comparison, anybody recommend it

**[0:43:38] Kurt Metzger:** though, look at that.

**[0:43:39] Joe Rogan:** before. Uh, yeah, big difference, Hooray for Hollywood, boys, I mean, I'm, I'm baby. kind of for the right?

**[0:43:44] Kurt Metzger:** improvements to the and, you know,

**[0:43:47] Joe Rogan:** They should have made her a black man. It would have been, uh, just as accurate.

**[0:43:50] Kurt Metzger:** dude, I'm way into that idea. Are you I'm in the hole.

**[0:43:52] Duncan Trussell:** kidding? I would have been entranced by Elizabeth Holmes. I would've been sucking her Not not feet. She one that looked would have, but like that, the you the real,

**[0:43:57] Joe Rogan:** real one.

**[0:43:58] Duncan Trussell:** the real one would have taken me in a second like that. Those eyes, those deep blue eyes, you saw it in the Nathan Fielder clip. When she's looking at him, she draws you in with those eyes, and you know what you're not experiencing. People like that have an aura, they have a a real vibe that pulls you in. So you're just when you're just looking at that, like a 2D picture, it's nothing compared to when you're in their presence.

**[0:44:22] Duncan Trussell:** And no So you think matter.

**[0:44:23] Joe Rogan:** that if you were, if you said, Hey, no cameras, no films, can I just come over to your house and ask you questions about what happened? You think that she would just get you, very slowly, she would suck you,

**[0:44:35] Duncan Trussell:** she would suck you in. suck you into And cause

**[0:44:37] Joe Rogan:** her web?

**[0:44:37] Duncan Trussell:** think of how much money she grifted, think of, like, what she did. Like, if we take the ethics and morality out of it, it's spectacular. Like when you look at, like, the ability to manipulate people at the level that she did, that's more than you just can't know until you're around someone like. I mean, you've been around you. You have people like that on your podcast, you can feel their vibe,

**[0:44:59] Joe Rogan:** Not at that level, like, that's not at that like crazy, level, that's The charm of Jimi

**[0:45:01] Duncan Trussell:** high level.

**[0:45:02] Kurt Metzger:** Vance coming at you like that, you couldn't feel it, dude.

**[0:45:05] Duncan Trussell:** Oh, yeah, tr- Trump, Trump, I'm sure, radiates some kind of weird aura. Like, you know, anytime I've been around people like that, you know, they they get you, they there's who knows what it is, mirror neurons, who knows what it is. But these are warlocks, these There's a are sorcerers.

**[0:45:19] Joe Rogan:** little bit of hypnosis involved in being someone who has a fake startup, right? You, you're, you're doing something, you're pitching this thought, and they all think they're gonna cash in. But there was also the culture of startups in in Silicon Valley, where there was a lot of bullshit startups and a lot of people like. That was one of our arguments was that everybody was doing this, everybody was kinda bullshitting, everybody was like making these. TH- My problem with the show is that it's really good and there's facts in it for sure.

**[0:45:47] Joe Rogan:** Where app they, they fully fake these things, they did this, they got people to invest under false pretenses. I don't like when there's dialogue between people, and I know somebody just made it up, it takes me right out I of it.

**[0:45:59] Kurt Metzger:** me too, dude.

**[0:46:00] Joe Rogan:** When they're like, they're alone, I hate biopics, like both Sunny Balwani and her alone, and like they're acting weird together. I'm like, you don't know if that's real, like you're making me think about them a very specific way that you can't. Y- they didn't participate, they didn't help you, they didn't tell you. I said this, and then she said that, so you're just making things up and you're you're pretending you're make. It's like gonzo journalism, you're mixing fake, like that's what Hunter used to do, make, m mixing to propagandize me a fiction.

**[0:46:28] Kurt Metzger:** certain way, right?

**[0:46:29] Joe Rogan:** Yes, yeah. So part of me is like, I don't think you should be able to do that. But that's a Like, if you're, good warlock but if you're made a trick. a well by the people who made the show, I mean, don't if you

**[0:46:37] Kurt Metzger:** know Gonzo journalism, like, Yeah, it's like reporting, but it's not. I'm lying.

**[0:46:41] Joe Rogan:** did you ever see the thing that he did about the election? Awesome. Well, did you ever see the thing that he did about the election when he did fear and loathing on the campaign trail? So he made Ed Muskie go crazy, he made him go crazy, cause he was saying that he was using a Brazilian witch doctor, and he was, uh, he was addicted to ibogaine. Hm, do do you know this whole story? no, I know No, I find I don't know it to be very he

**[0:47:00] Duncan Trussell:** this show. strange.

**[0:47:01] Joe Rogan:** caused the guy to have a nervous breakdown, and so the guy was on the campaign trail. And he's, I am not a drug addict, and he would, like, literally go crazy. And then so Hunter, find the video of Hunter on the Dick Cavett show. He's admitting on the Dick Cavett show that he made this whole thing up and he caused this guy's campaign to sink and affected the entire election.

**[0:47:24] Duncan Trussell:** you know, this is so funny, cause I was just watching this thing on Aleister Crowley, and in his confessions, he was saying that he made the Nazi Germany fall apart, like he infected Germany with these insane

**[0:47:37] Kurt Metzger:** You're never gonna forgive him for ideas. that, are you? I mean, let it go, man, let it go. You and your boy Theo loving Oh my it. god, oh my god,

**[0:47:50] Speaker 8:** I couldn't believe that people don't remember

**[0:47:54] Joe Rogan:** look at this.

**[0:47:54] Speaker 8:** that Muskie was eating ibogaine. I never said he was, I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee that he was, which was true. And I started the rumor in Milwaukee. Yeah,

**[0:48:00] Speaker 9:** Finally said, Will you? So that was

**[0:48:04] Joe Rogan:** he's saying, I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee, and it's true because I started the rumor in Milwaukee. So he started this rumor, he Charlie, wrote about it, and then he caused the guy to go crazy.

**[0:48:16] Duncan Trussell:** yeah, magic, pure and simple.

**[0:48:18] Joe Rogan:** Well, voodoo's real, right? if you believe in voodoo, if you voodoo, believe if I tell you I'm putting a spell on you and you believe it, your life's gonna fall apart.

**[0:48:26] Kurt Metzger:** well, uh, like you said, you don't wanna believe people are evil. That's the spell. Voodoo Gnostic Voodoo is the basis of a lot of the mass programming for, uh, Americans. Uh, I think it was pronounced Voodoo, by the way, that's how it's pronounced. And, uh, but they use a lot of that, and, uh, uh, the main thing, though, cause you had, uh, Grush on here talking about the four NHIs, right? The four NHI. That sounds like a, um, like a band like like, uh, Simon this is the case, Cowell's, like those guys that were just singers, like El Devo, like the four NHI.

**[0:48:58] Kurt Metzger:** And they do opera songs. They're, uh, what was it? The bug one and the lizard one and the Nordics, Germans, and the, uh, whatever the other Well, the guy,

**[0:49:06] Joe Rogan:** Nordics look like like Greek gods, or like, Yeah,

**[0:49:09] Kurt Metzger:** so that's when he okay. That part stuck out when he was talking about the one looking kind of blue and, uh, Ridley Scott Prometheus-ish. Um, so they m. It's eugenics and dysgenics, and, um, a a big thing that I just learned of, and it's from South Africa, it's called this is good, Tokolash. Yeah, on Mystery Boys, uh, oh, this one, it already this is got away.

**[0:49:29] Duncan Trussell:** fucked up.

**[0:49:29] Kurt Metzger:** So you know what Tokolash is? Uh, Credo Mutwa, who's the shaman that David Ike likes from South Africa that's talking about the lizards? You know, that guy? Never had either. Credo No, I'm joking, I take Doctor lizards, you don't know doctor lizards anyway. He it's in his book. But, uh, they would have practice, uh, which like the fucked up ones where they take like a pygmy or, uh, which I guess is a small person. I, I'm not, uh, not clear, but it's a human, not a pygmy, right?

**[0:49:58] Kurt Metzger:** It just means they're small, small in the jungle or something. They take them or a disa- like someone who's got a disability or a muta- you know, any kind of a malformed person are these? They would grab these people and raise them like they put, like bent, uh, wood to, like, make their limbs grow weird, to turn them into like monstery goblin. And then and then, uh, just tor- it's just torturing a human and mutilating them until they're crazy and think they're a another entity, like a supernatural entity called Tokolash.

**[0:50:28] Kurt Metzger:** The CIA studied that, okay, and it brought that shit here, and so the four NHI, I say, are. This is why the aliens need sperm and ova, because they're making this stuff out of people. It's all. They've been doing this shit under the energy commission, probably so creepy since 48. They've

**[0:50:45] Joe Rogan:** what?

**[0:50:45] Kurt Metzger:** been do so, remember the They're making this what now we

**[0:50:47] Joe Rogan:** shit out of people, so you're saying that they're these non-human intelligences, they're human, they made they're, they they mixed them with made them, the shit. Yes, people made them,

**[0:50:54] Kurt Metzger:** now they could do with CRISPR, they don't mutants. have to tie your spine to a bent wood anymore and beat you. They can do it with blue light, Spider-Man, Elsa, and they can fucking do it. It's like you're being sculpted by your phone into the thing they want you to be.

**[0:51:07] Duncan Trussell:** The greys are just some warped mutant hybrid person.

**[0:51:10] Kurt Metzger:** That's why they look like fetuses, I bet, and that's why they gotta steal

**[0:51:13] Joe Rogan:** wait a minute. your. Yeah, They've been doing, wait a minute. They've been seeing greys since the 50s. They you think that's they've been doing right, since it back then?

**[0:51:20] Kurt Metzger:** here's what I'm getting to. So do you remember Diana Paseulka or not? Uh, not not Diana Paseulka. Um, uh, the one that wrote the DARPA book, I'm blanking on Annie Jacobson,

**[0:51:27] Joe Rogan:** Annie Jacobson?

**[0:51:29] Kurt Metzger:** and remember, at the time, I thought this story was so stupid. The DARPA said it was deformed kids, uh, that Russia sent over to, like, freak us out.

**[0:51:36] Joe Rogan:** That was the Roswell thing. Yeah,

**[0:51:39] Kurt Metzger:** So now I understand that story a lot better, cause Tokolosh in South Africa, they're rare, but you could still find those farms in the mountains where they're just raising. You know, like, um, troglodyte people or something that never see the light. They they torture, tell them they're like a, and they they can climb and and people die of fright seeing these things. so wait a minute, Okay, so you think that all so these alien abduction experiences, are it's all human so created fake, on well, well, I didn't say fake.

**[0:52:06] Kurt Metzger:** I or like, said they may. They speciated us into four other things, and the reason is the Nordics, the Nordics are the eugenics, and that's the that's you could tell us from back then, cause they're blonde and blue blood and blue-eyed. You know, the ideal of the 50s. Then you got your lizard people, which is straight out of fucking Star Trek, and by the way, that guy was a creep, Gene Roddenberry, just, you know, he was a fucking creep, Jesus Christ, okay?

**[0:52:33] Kurt Metzger:** But the lizard lizards and men don't come from space, they come from here. And so the you can s, and that's why the v the sightings in other countries, cause like, okay, what's going on? Why would people see different things? They all need your sperm and eggs, though, that that always is a thing.

**[0:52:47] Duncan Trussell:** let me back him up here for Because the a let me back you local movie maker up

**[0:52:49] Kurt Metzger:** people are the ones d designing these. They've had this CRISPR shit for a long time. what You understand that, right?

**[0:52:54] Jamie Vernon:** what the fuck?

**[0:52:54] Duncan Trussell:** dude, dude, Joe, look it up, Jamie. Maybe you could Yeah, they're pull this up.

**[0:52:57] Kurt Metzger:** that bad, and that's where They look the Disney at one at a comes in. time, Kurt, They

**[0:52:58] Duncan Trussell:** come on, they.

**[0:52:58] Kurt Metzger:** just mixed a mouse brain with a human brain. Did you hear about this? Yes, I told you in confidence, and now, okay,

**[0:53:07] Duncan Trussell:** Well, d I'm sorry, I forgot, it's pretty I forgot,

**[0:53:10] Kurt Metzger:** heated here.

**[0:53:10] Duncan Trussell:** I'm sorry. But but you know what he's saying, even though it does sound absolutely insane, but honestly, it doesn't sound as insane. Thank Hold that while you. It you're talking, doesn't. It doesn't sound as insane as beings from other dimensions coming here, it's equally insane. But when you look at what we're doing now, creating human mouse brain hybrids with brain organelles harvested from stem cells, we are doing that. And you look at what we just looked at with the subway bioweapon test that was in the 40s.

**[0:53:39] Duncan Trussell:** So it would it surprise you that secret branches of every government were doing eugenics studies, were abducting children and warping them to see if we could make super soldiers? or how about farming It? I

**[0:53:55] Kurt Metzger:** them?

**[0:53:55] Duncan Trussell:** mean, there's clearly a market pressure for that if you're trying to have a military advantage, and when it comes to having a military advantage, morality goes out the window, man.

**[0:54:05] Joe Rogan:** right? But do you think they would create little gray aliens with giant I'll tell you heads and big why they did, black eyes? I this goes don't know

**[0:54:10] Kurt Metzger:** back to Annie Jacobson thing, because the space race, I'll tell I'm you why, with you, I'll tell you why, I'll tell you why, I'll tell you why. The space race with the Soviets. Okay,

**[0:54:20] Joe Rogan:** This was before the space race, what are you bro. doing? Oh gosh, don't give me

**[0:54:24] Kurt Metzger:** touch me with the tentacles.

**[0:54:25] Jamie Vernon:** Before you this is a I did find something about the Toculoche farm. This is someone quoting it, but nothing

**[0:54:30] Kurt Metzger:** so exciting.

**[0:54:30] Jamie Vernon:** I have found said it was real, but this is what it says.

**[0:54:32] Joe Rogan:** Yeah, okay, so this is talk of a Tokoloshe farm somewhere in the country where deformed children are raised as assassins, Holy shit, trained with with muti knowledge. I don't know what that means, and all the terrifying things whispered about in secret. I haven't seen it, but it's something we're told to be aware of.

**[0:54:49] Duncan Trussell:** it's the X-men.

**[0:54:50] Kurt Metzger:** you know, it means like, mind your business in Bantu or some shit, or it's like, this is evil, Muti, don't ask about it. They won't make that's what carvings of it, so think how how taught, classified of knowledge of it is. They won't make a carving of it. Things going way back, assassins you. They don't want to disclose it cause you can't. It's terrible.

**[0:55:05] Joe Rogan:** says. There's three grades of Tokolosh, the most common one people known is like a little hairy man. Often it's not mystical at all, it can be trained animals, even baboons, used by certain people to carry out menial tasks. It's more psychological warfare. When you see something that fits the idea of a Tokolosh, fear grips you, and that fear becomes its own weapon. Dun, dun, dun

**[0:55:28] Kurt Metzger:** so that's so, that's mind war right there, that's what you call nice mind war. in South Africa, or Well, b- we. They studied everything, remember? Uh, scopolamine, zon making zon zombies are undead. Zombies are people that have been tricked and brainwashed. You know, I, you're, I took your heart, now this rock is your heart, and don't lose this ring. I, I own your, For context, it's like, a

**[0:55:46] Jamie Vernon:** that was, uh, explanation from the resident healer. Sangoma Faziol Pretorius

**[0:55:52] Joe Rogan:** heavenly healings resident healer. I love the name of the company Heavenly Healing heavenly healing. A place like where you go to to, like, get a tantric massage.

**[0:56:01] Jamie Vernon:** This is him talking about.

**[0:56:01] Joe Rogan:** That's him. I don't trust people with nose rings. Shut the fuck up. What about the Pentagon backlist? Any man, and it's Why you any man with don't trust a nose ring,

**[0:56:08] Duncan Trussell:** this man to you don't I trust chicks trust him?

**[0:56:09] Joe Rogan:** with nose rings.

**[0:56:10] Kurt Metzger:** I don't trust him as a dermatologist either. I'll tell you that I mean, you don't wanna be Here he tricked. goes,

**[0:56:14] Joe Rogan:** he needs to go to a laser,

**[0:56:14] Duncan Trussell:** attacking people with skin conditions.

**[0:56:16] Joe Rogan:** he should go to a laser guy, get his face Yeah, I re-surfaced.

**[0:56:18] Kurt Metzger:** know, uh, that's just helpful.

**[0:56:20] Joe Rogan:** I think so.

**[0:56:20] Kurt Metzger:** I don't think that's hateful I just at all.

**[0:56:21] Joe Rogan:** I'm not into guys with nose rings. Jamie, I just said It's weird. to you, a health A healthy rack clinic. I made with nose

**[0:56:26] Kurt Metzger:** to explain Tokoloshe. rings.

**[0:56:26] Duncan Trussell:** I got my nose pierced when I was a kid in Venice Beach. I bet It got fucking infected,

**[0:56:29] Joe Rogan:** you did, I bet you did.

**[0:56:31] Duncan Trussell:** it got swollen.

**[0:56:32] Kurt Metzger:** Why do it?

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**[0:57:41] Duncan Trussell:** I wanted to see what it felt like.

**[0:57:43] Kurt Metzger:** Did it feel good?

**[0:57:44] Joe Rogan:** makes you feel like you're like a little bit of a rebel, it was you're like rebelling the real dumb, against

**[0:57:48] Duncan Trussell:** it was real dumb.

**[0:57:49] Joe Rogan:** crazy living on the edge.

**[0:57:51] Duncan Trussell:** Could have lost my nose. Ooh, really,

**[0:57:52] Kurt Metzger:** You're very detailed.

**[0:57:53] Joe Rogan:** is that bad?

**[0:57:54] Duncan Trussell:** It got super well. No, I mean, but it got, I mean, I got my, uh, some dude in on the Venice boardwalk shoved a needle into my nose and it got infected.

**[0:58:01] Kurt Metzger:** You could have lost, it'd be dead. How much That's not as did he exciting, but I know what you mean. It is weird.

**[0:58:05] Joe Rogan:** Well, when do you get an infection? And especially if you get like, that's that's the risk of getting a nose job too, right? How? How many people have gotten nose jobs and gotten an infection? And you have rotting tissue nose in your nose

**[0:58:15] Duncan Trussell:** rots off.

**[0:58:16] Joe Rogan:** and you s you're smelling just dead meat everywhere. God Oh my god, ugh, Yeah, cause Jesus

**[0:58:21] Kurt Metzger:** I didn't even I didn't even consider Christ the smell.

**[0:58:22] Duncan Trussell:** smells like just stinking feet whenever the good you breathe,

**[0:58:25] Joe Rogan:** thing, though, is that all factory senses, uh, it just detects changes in s smells. That's why people that live in a town that smells like shit, like when you're driving through it, they don't notice it. Yeah, because Wait, that wait, they Used to

**[0:58:38] Kurt Metzger:** that's interesting. So it's like, damn sm- a smoker can't, so because I could never smell cigarette smoke when I smoked. Right, right,

**[0:58:43] Joe Rogan:** Yeah, people that are when you like, if you live in an area that stinks, you don't detect it, you detect changes in smells, which is really weird. yeah, that's what if I live weird,

**[0:58:53] Kurt Metzger:** in a shirt that stinks?

**[0:58:54] Joe Rogan:** I wonder what that's for. Do you think that's so people get used to eating rotten food when you have to?

**[0:58:59] Duncan Trussell:** probably probably. I mean, you don't wanna be I tortured by

**[0:59:02] Kurt Metzger:** could also be a misfire off another thing, you know,

**[0:59:04] Joe Rogan:** Maybe it's just because people lived around the smell of shit for so long. Like, think about, like Roman life, when they would just take buckets of shit you know, and throw it the farm, out the window. or what, or Yeah, but a farm, at least it's out there, but it's with it's out in the field. everything. That's manure, that's different Look at like human shit telephone poles, that they're throwing out the window and there's people stacked on top of each other sounds like and they're throwing

**[0:59:24] Kurt Metzger:** New York, it sounds like New York these pots or Los Angeles.

**[0:59:26] Joe Rogan:** of shit. to the 1800s. But Yeah,

**[0:59:28] Duncan Trussell:** but think of like telephone poles, they're everywhere, but you never notice them. The whole like, everywhere you go, these there's fake trees with with metal wires

**[0:59:39] Kurt Metzger:** Wow, here we go with the conspiracies. getting

**[0:59:39] Joe Rogan:** everywhere, and you just get accustomed to you get it. Yeah,

**[0:59:42] Duncan Trussell:** accustomed to it. it looks normal It

**[0:59:43] Joe Rogan:** to you.

**[0:59:43] Kurt Metzger:** the wire trees aren't real. This is

**[0:59:46] Duncan Trussell:** they're not real, man, that's telephone pole. I keep telling you that

**[0:59:49] Kurt Metzger:** Oh, dude, blurry.

**[0:59:49] Joe Rogan:** did you ever, you ever see the depictions of New York City before cars, when it was just horse horse shit drawn carriages? There's horse shit in everywhere. the everywhere, the entire all those people were sick. Like, you wonder where these diseases tuberculosis, came from, all those people were sick. Well, I bet You just they got a hearty, breathe in shit fumes. typhoid. Yeah,

**[1:00:07] Duncan Trussell:** And they didn't know. But, and what's crazy is this was before germ theory. They had, they called it a miasma, and they thought it came from bad smells. They thought diseases literally came from bad smells. Wafting in from swamps that contained within them, in those winds, rotten animal breath, which was causing diseases to spread. This is miasma theory. Look it up, that's how crazy people were. They

**[1:00:33] Kurt Metzger:** is that how I got thought asthma?

**[1:00:34] Duncan Trussell:** this is what they thought. They thought it was like raccoon breath, like rotten raccoon breath, wafting through the wind, was getting people sick. oh my god, It's crazy. And Oh, I've you think,

**[1:00:45] Kurt Metzger:** I've caught the horse vapors.

**[1:00:46] Duncan Trussell:** but you gotta wonder what shit like that is happening now, like, what kind of It's called things like that that we Glyphosate. They're not taking haven't discovered

**[1:00:52] Kurt Metzger:** it out, we said. yet? But there's Do they raid and gotta be stuff shit on you?

**[1:00:56] Duncan Trussell:** like that now.

**[1:00:56] Joe Rogan:** I wonder how much glyphosate is really affecting people. Like, if you could quantify it, like how many people are sick because of it, how In small many people got diseases tates, because of it. That's the other stuff, that's microplastics, that's phthalates, phthalates are shrinking are we sure tapes,

**[1:01:11] Duncan Trussell:** of that?

**[1:01:12] Joe Rogan:** phthalates shrinking tapes. Yeah, there But I thought are studies on that I thought that. That's doctor the frog mutation is Shannon

**[1:01:16] Kurt Metzger:** from the other one.

**[1:01:17] Joe Rogan:** Sloan from Harvard, that book.

**[1:01:19] Duncan Trussell:** it is weird when you, a t, you know, talk to younger kids, you know, like when you talk, they're all, they're all like, Yeah, my taint's small, like they're just they just accept it.

**[1:01:29] Kurt Metzger:** by the way, it is got, uh, gaytober, remember that It's we f? Uh, gaytober, by I forgot to tell you

**[1:01:33] Duncan Trussell:** the way.

**[1:01:33] Kurt Metzger:** it's gaytober for everybody for your taints. Get out The kids there and get are just like, you a few. Oh, measuring tapes on They're all like, Yeah, Snapchat. Yep, measure it, measure your friends, then you got a taint in you.

**[1:01:43] Duncan Trussell:** like when they see porn from the 80s, they must be like, Damn, that guy's taint is gigantic. Grand You need a baculum, Canyon, Yeah,

**[1:01:49] Kurt Metzger:** you get a walrus baculum and a friend.

**[1:01:52] Joe Rogan:** can you stretch your taint like the way the guys reclaim foreskin with? Yes, you Like we've explored beat it this on the mystery right here. Oh, boys many times. that's now? These the main mystery like clothespins

**[1:01:59] Kurt Metzger:** we talked about.

**[1:02:00] Joe Rogan:** and they pull their, there's foreskin up to try to.

**[1:02:02] Kurt Metzger:** I wouldn't do that, I would just beat it with a firm. And a and a replica's fine. If you can't afford the real thing, we're not all Joe Rogan I disagree that ordered real with this. I baculums. That was don't think you

**[1:02:10] Joe Rogan:** a gift.

**[1:02:10] Duncan Trussell:** can do that. I don't think you Kirk, don't can.

**[1:02:12] Joe Rogan:** shame me, don't wealth shame me for my I've baculum.

**[1:02:14] Duncan Trussell:** Wealth shaming.

**[1:02:16] Joe Rogan:** Such an asshole. Yeah, just He was the the a little so rich, I have been, shy. he

**[1:02:18] Kurt Metzger:** you know, I have been doing piece of shit, that a lot. he was such from the Cleveland

**[1:02:20] Joe Rogan:** a piece of shit. Clinic. Taint stretching Jesus Christ Perennial massage taint stretching is real.

**[1:02:25] Kurt Metzger:** Do you?

**[1:02:25] Jamie Vernon:** That's probably for women, I think,

**[1:02:27] Joe Rogan:** Perennial massage or perennial stretching refers to the gentle lengthening and conditioning

**[1:02:31] Kurt Metzger:** Nice try. What even is that?

**[1:02:32] Joe Rogan:** of perineum. That's somebody banging you in the ass and calling it therapy.

**[1:02:36] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, well, I mean, uh, This is the band I say that of skin while I'm doing and muscle it.

**[1:02:40] Joe Rogan:** located between the va. Oh, it's the vaginal, the vaginal opening. It is now Well, the or scrotum. thing is scrotum. or scrotum. Interesting, um, depending on if you're a a trans woman, and I am, then they they, it's a vagina, sort of trans, scrotum ish, whatever,

**[1:02:58] Duncan Trussell:** I mean, you kinda look at everything that's going on, right? And where? That's when I heard the miasma shit. I was just thinking, like, I I think it. Maybe it's glyphosate, maybe it's microplastics, or maybe it's something we just haven't figured out yet,

**[1:03:11] Joe Rogan:** like DDT. Like they didn't know what was going on with DDT, and then they're like, Oh shit, we gotta stop using this, Or, ti, we're killing you know, here's everybody.

**[1:03:17] Duncan Trussell:** my crazy idea is a lot of mental illness is related to distortions in the time space continuum that are happening right now. Ripples in time space are causing people to go nuts as we approach the singularity. Take it from here, Kurt.

**[1:03:32] Kurt Metzger:** uh, I'm sick of your time space bashing. First of all, you say that

**[1:03:36] Duncan Trussell:** No, I'm saying that, like, Shows so a

**[1:03:38] Joe Rogan:** very problematic. okay, well, Uh, lot of a lot so explain of what's, yeah, what you're saying.

**[1:03:41] Duncan Trussell:** I'm saying that, uh, you know, they talk about this, they they can measure these, thank you. They measure these waves that happen when black holes collide, right? They ripple time space, it ripples through the universe, and we're time space. I just feel like a lot of the sh, a lot of the strange things that are happening, mental illnesses, maybe even like cancers and stuff, are potentially related to people who've been rippled. The time space rippled them weird, and there's no way to measure that or find it.

**[1:04:12] Duncan Trussell:** I know it's going, you're it's the not taking same. it back now. I know, but I I, you know, we just don't know. In the same way they didn't know about germs, we what happens if time space ripples through you? Why? Why do we assume that everything stays the same? Like, I don't mean to get into the CERN particle accelerator shit, but when Please you look at, do. when you look at that stuff, when you're like, smashing the smallest parts of the universe together and creating bizarre transformations, everything's connected to everything.

**[1:04:42] Duncan Trussell:** What effect does that have on everything else that we just don't know? But if you look at like CERN, if you look at the nuclear testing, if you look at all these things we've been doing and look at history post those moments, shit got weird and it got weird fast. And I don't know, this is just something I kick around at night when It's not I'm, a bad thought, like yeah, we don't I don't know know, like they any of that is

**[1:05:04] Joe Rogan:** created the Higgs boson when they they did that, when they figured out element 115. Yeah, who knows what they're doing, really well, you know, what the original thought was What that they were gonna create a black hole and that there they can, was gonna be a microscopic

**[1:05:16] Kurt Metzger:** but they're tiny.

**[1:05:17] Joe Rogan:** pl microscopic black hole that went through the entire Earth. That was that was the Well, that's the fear, thought.

**[1:05:22] Kurt Metzger:** but they said they could, they can make them, they're just very small and don't last, right?

**[1:05:25] Joe Rogan:** That's what they thought, but they didn't know until they did it. They said, let's see, let's Okay, so see

**[1:05:29] Kurt Metzger:** you know what they do with that? what. This is the thing. I, I didn't see this when you had him on here telling you that. Oh, thank, oh, thank you. Oh, and Alex Jones is telling you about stopping kids hearts to send them their minds through space and all that. The little tiny micron o openings that they make, you can't fit an object through, but you can fit someone's consciousness through. So you do that Phoenix shit where you stop someone's heart Wait, so that

**[1:05:52] Joe Rogan:** wait wait, you you wait, wait, wait,

**[1:05:53] Kurt Metzger:** do an ejection.

**[1:05:54] Joe Rogan:** wait wait. Listen to what you just said. They're making little black holes so they can send someone's consciousness through it, and this is planned out.

**[1:06:00] Kurt Metzger:** the disclosure that they should give you is that they figured out consciousness, but they're not gonna disclose that.

**[1:06:05] Joe Rogan:** What do you mean?

**[1:06:06] Kurt Metzger:** They figured out what consciousness is, What is and they figured out how to manipulate it with electromag- uh, I don't know, I'm not insane.

**[1:06:13] Joe Rogan:** But what do you think it is? Why? Why do you think that they figured it out?

**[1:06:16] Kurt Metzger:** Well, based on my research and the people I talk to and the best stuff that I found out so far, which, um, it makes a lot of sense. You gotta be But but what this

**[1:06:23] Joe Rogan:** does that mean, though? They figured out what consciousness is?

**[1:06:27] Kurt Metzger:** like how to take you out of your fucking body and pop you back in.

**[1:06:30] Joe Rogan:** What? Yeah, people Where are you?

**[1:06:31] Kurt Metzger:** do it now off online, you could learn how to do well, I it.

**[1:06:34] Duncan Trussell:** think they could do it with that God helmet, right? Like, can't they induce out-of-body BAM, the experiences with the God

**[1:06:38] Kurt Metzger:** God helmet, you know, the

**[1:06:39] Duncan Trussell:** helmet?

**[1:06:39] Kurt Metzger:** God helmet. Don't put that Right? But is helmet on.

**[1:06:41] Joe Rogan:** that an illusion, or is that actually taking your consciousness out of your body?

**[1:06:45] Kurt Metzger:** I'm not saying that helmet's Like, taking out of your body, but if it's an illusion that y- is totally real, dude, I'm not seeing a difference, but I don't say it does that. But you just crank the it's like anything else, you just crank the right? But you're uh,

**[1:06:56] Joe Rogan:** saying they're taking consciousness out I think of their body and that they're sending it through a black hole. They created with a particle That I? collider. That's there's over a lot, like 30 that's a big stretch,

**[1:07:03] Kurt Metzger:** thousand particle colliders. that's like

**[1:07:03] Duncan Trussell:** It's a lot down. that's as I'm just telling much of a

**[1:07:05] Kurt Metzger:** you what I heard.

**[1:07:05] Joe Rogan:** stretch as they're taking crippled kids and turning them into aliens that pilot crafts and kidnap

**[1:07:09] Kurt Metzger:** wait, the crippled kids. people. I lean Wait, wait, wait,

**[1:07:11] Duncan Trussell:** more towards believing that theory than the I mean, uh, black hole consciousness ejection.

**[1:07:15] Joe Rogan:** Both of them are like, I don't know, cause I I didn't expect

**[1:07:18] Kurt Metzger:** don't know what a space

**[1:07:18] Joe Rogan:** this today.

**[1:07:18] Kurt Metzger:** time ripple thing is, what Does that I know what that means.

**[1:07:20] Joe Rogan:** happen?

**[1:07:20] Duncan Trussell:** Don't don't attack my space time ripple Wait, what does that theory, Tuck.

**[1:07:22] Kurt Metzger:** mean? What What does that mean?

**[1:07:24] Duncan Trussell:** Space time ripples.

**[1:07:25] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, what does that mean? Don't What I'm you have that every day? we the Wells assume

**[1:07:27] Joe Rogan:** James? He attacks space time ripples,

**[1:07:29] Duncan Trussell:** he attacks my space time ripple

**[1:07:31] Kurt Metzger:** You're scared to be clean theory, and he too.

**[1:07:32] Duncan Trussell:** talks about Tokelash, Excuse me, excuse I'll be honest, he's me, only. He thinks you son I bully him

**[1:07:38] Joe Rogan:** of a bitch.

**[1:07:39] Kurt Metzger:** cause I've, uh, yeah, he thinks I'm a bully, but I'm not. I'm bullying those stars. I'm saying, You know, those little stars you put on your Pizzits. we don't understand

**[1:07:46] Duncan Trussell:** space time, we don't understand space time at it's. It we, but we, Some of us, but I. But you know, like people experience distortion in time, all, like all the time, it happens

**[1:07:57] Kurt Metzger:** well, yeah, that's true.

**[1:07:58] Duncan Trussell:** in with alien abductions. You know, 1 second, you're, it's like you're driving down the road, the next 2nd, it's morning, you don't know what happened. Yep, psychopamine Like,

**[1:08:06] Kurt Metzger:** as well.

**[1:08:07] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, I'm just saying, like, whatever. In the way. We didn't understand germs, we don't understand retro causality, and people are starting to talk about that now. That maybe somehow events in the future ripple back into the past. That's not just stoner talk, they're lo, they're exploring those ideas. So in the same way we didn't understand germs or atoms, we don't understand time space. How much of a person's personality is the way that they're, they're atomically interacting with the time space continuum, and is the time space continuum constant?

**[1:08:39] Duncan Trussell:** No, we all know that if you take a watch, put it in in orbit, time moves differently. We also know that time space ripples. I don't know what they're called, but they can detect these waves that roll through the entire planet. All I'm saying is it's a completely un-understood, vast, insane reality that we don't understand, and how much does that affect culture? How Well, a lot much does of it's classified, that? Yeah,

**[1:09:06] Kurt Metzger:** a lot of reality's been classified.

**[1:09:08] Joe Rogan:** What do you mean? Like,

**[1:09:09] Kurt Metzger:** Which one doesn't?

**[1:09:10] Joe Rogan:** what, what, what reality's been classified?

**[1:09:12] Kurt Metzger:** Uh, well, anything that's classified, that would count as reality being classified. But I would say, I would say the NHI bullshit, yo, you have that g- that autistic guy, wait, we got a good autistic man sitting here. What's his name? Grush? An autistic guy who heard a thing from a guy about a thing, right? Which I don't know. He has no more credibility than I do. I feel, uh, I feel like I'm saying way more interesting things than what Neil Grush is telling you on this show.

**[1:09:36] Kurt Metzger:** it's David Grush, David Grush, Well, who's Neil?

**[1:09:39] Joe Rogan:** Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

**[1:09:40] Duncan Trussell:** he makes them together, which would be an incredible hybrid. Yo, I just If they fused

**[1:09:44] Kurt Metzger:** gave them a great Tokelash together, it's idea. some kind of terrible Neil Degr- Oh, intro. The shit, Neil Degrush particle accelerator Tyson.

**[1:09:50] Duncan Trussell:** makes them worse.

**[1:09:51] Joe Rogan:** One person who doesn't believe in aliens at all, and one person who told me about four different ones. He told Joe, me about wars, they were having wars with the reptilians and the grays and the They were the Rubidoux,

**[1:10:01] Duncan Trussell:** Siamese twins.

**[1:10:02] Kurt Metzger:** the Rubidoux. That's the ultimate goal of alchemy, of of to create the the dialectic. a Neil DeGrasse Tyson

**[1:10:07] Duncan Trussell:** Did you ever see that picture David Grush. Whatever of the Siamese twins? One of them's Holy shit, gay, the other's not. is that real? And well, how do I don't

**[1:10:13] Kurt Metzger:** you see that in the picture?

**[1:10:14] Duncan Trussell:** know, but I didn't wanna look to see Wait, if it was I think that's real. a meme. Ah, shit,

**[1:10:18] Kurt Metzger:** is it just the picture's real, but they just set I didn't that up? Or there's look into a picture of one of them being gay?

**[1:10:22] Duncan Trussell:** It's just a Siamese twin. And the one dude's kissing another dude, and the other one's kinda And the other sitting there, like, one's like, What?

**[1:10:28] Kurt Metzger:** the other one's like, silent,

**[1:10:29] Joe Rogan:** I don't think that's real. Jesus, I don't think that's real.

**[1:10:32] Kurt Metzger:** someone's gonna find that picture.

**[1:10:33] Joe Rogan:** I think one of them's gay, the other one's in denial, the other one's a Catholic. Neil DeGrasse Tyson

**[1:10:39] Duncan Trussell:** I like it, I like it, I like it. Neil DeGrasse Tyson is amazing That's gonna be dude.

**[1:10:44] Kurt Metzger:** a probably bestseller.

**[1:10:45] Joe Rogan:** I like it. That would be a great character, like an AI character that's Well, very conflicted about his belief in aliens.

**[1:10:51] Duncan Trussell:** I mean, do you believe Grush? Do you believe he's tell telling the truth,

**[1:10:54] Joe Rogan:** Well, here's the thing. The he hasn't had any personal experiences of note.

**[1:10:59] Kurt Metzger:** he's telling you what he heard.

**[1:11:00] Joe Rogan:** And he there was no, no thing where he was in the presence of a ship, no thing where he w- co- communicated with a being. So all these people that are telling me these things, that are these programs they were read into, and these videos that they've seen. I take that as seriously as I take everybody else that's telling me some sort of a story. I don't know, I don't. If you don't, you haven't seen it.

**[1:11:24] Joe Rogan:** I think what Bob Lazar says is way more interesting and compelling. Well, Bob Lazar said, all that stuff turned out to be accurate. The element 115 was accurate. The fact that we he was actually in Los Alamos's, uh, employee register, he was, he was 100 an employee there. The fact that he knew exactly where Area S4 was, when it was completely classified. There's photos of the actual fucking hangar doors that he described, saw, I saw like decades that doc.

**[1:11:52] Joe Rogan:** Yeah, earlier.

**[1:11:54] Kurt Metzger:** Did he say, Um, I'm trying to remember? Um, fuck,

**[1:11:59] Joe Rogan:** Glad you interrupted.

**[1:11:59] Kurt Metzger:** did. Wait. Did he say the thing about that? They they were calling the aliens the kid, the children or the kids or something. Do you remember him saying something like that?

**[1:12:06] Joe Rogan:** I don't remember that, I don't Cause someone was know,

**[1:12:08] Kurt Metzger:** telling me that and I was like, Oh, that's I don't know. Well, interesting.

**[1:12:10] Joe Rogan:** they were very tiny. That was the thing about the ship that he. This well, duh, one, that thing that, uh, is right there, or that one up on that fucking pic, that's from his office. The this was, eh? This was a a replication of the image that was on the wall in the office where they all worked in the workshop. And so when he first got to Area S4, before they were showing him this, he saw this on the wall.

**[1:12:33] Joe Rogan:** He's like, What the fuck is this?

**[1:12:35] Duncan Trussell:** is this supposed to be a recovered craft or human,

**[1:12:37] Joe Rogan:** It's supposed to be a recovered craft, it's supposed to be what they call the sport model. And he said, When you got inside of it, it was, uh, very obvious that it was designed for tiny little things, like 3 foot tall creatures. Like, yeah, everyone had to crouch inside of it, and there was no controls, there was n- it was somehow or another, they controlled it. B- with their mind. There was like some sort of a connection between the craft and the being, and they figured out how to pilot these things.

**[1:13:01] Joe Rogan:** And he said that there was 2 different generators inside of it. One of them was for going insanely fast, and one of them was for traveling at more moderate speeds. And they removed the one that was go that made you go insanely fast, cause apparently they couldn't control it. Which okay, that this is his speculation.

**[1:13:16] Kurt Metzger:** that right there, what you're saying. What, The engineering of people that can fly those craft, both us and the Russians were probably doing it, and that's why that Roswell thing. I'll bet you those were engineered. I'm saying like, farmed, I'm not saying they kidnapped kids and did it, I'm saying they farmed.

**[1:13:31] Joe Rogan:** okay, but you're saying, what came first, the chicken or the egg? There's a fucking craft that you could pilot with your brain that they had in the 1980s. There's no way technology was that advanced back then. I think it's much more Fly by water likely that was around, uh, much more likely Pluto, that there was probably some sort of an interaction with someone or something from something else that was different than humans. I forgot I don't think they this part, were, I don't think they were engineering 3 foot tall humans in 1947 to pilot these things with I bet their brains.

**[1:13:57] Kurt Metzger:** they were, and I'll bet I'm gonna buy you're, wait, hold I, can pay on, hold on, wait, wait.

**[1:13:58] Duncan Trussell:** with it.

**[1:13:59] Kurt Metzger:** I'm gonna forget. This is, are, th- is remember the guy you had on? That was telling you about the pharaohs? Going up the river and they go to a different temple and they get bandaged up and they're trying to tune their frequency to the gods at each temple. You had a an Egypt guy here telling you that, remember him? Okay, it's called atavism, that's the thing that's in the Dune series. The big part of making these, uh, creatures is, and also the mind control shit.

**[1:14:21] Kurt Metzger:** They did was atavism, the stuff from altered states, where you go in the isolation tank chamber and regress to a certain primitive state that's in your genetic memory. Do you know what I'm talking about?

**[1:14:31] Joe Rogan:** uh, I saw altered states. Yeah,

**[1:14:33] Kurt Metzger:** But you know what, that's called atavism, right? You've heard of that? I never heard No,

**[1:14:36] Duncan Trussell:** that term.

**[1:14:37] Joe Rogan:** Reappearance of an ancestral genetic trait. Oh, This like when people grow tail, is, or like, it's a horseshoe, or like um, when chickens grow fangs,

**[1:14:44] Kurt Metzger:** Now think of the re the so, the reptilians, Wow, that's people could go tails.

**[1:14:48] Duncan Trussell:** crazy, Kurt. That's cool, man.

**[1:14:50] Kurt Metzger:** I didn't get it. I was give dude, somebody smarter gave it to me, but I dude, a lot of people send me great shit. We were so. But both engaged by wait a minute, the way,

**[1:14:56] Joe Rogan:** so how does that? How do you think that connects to, like, the Grays? He's saying, you could because

**[1:15:01] Duncan Trussell:** cre- you could, maybe, if there was some ancestral early proto-hominid

**[1:15:04] Kurt Metzger:** you can screw that right now, I being, you could, bet

**[1:15:07] Duncan Trussell:** like, bring it out of a person. That's pretty cool, dude, yeah, so that man.

**[1:15:11] Joe Rogan:** you, you've seen those images of those elongated skulls from Peru, yes, it's as right?

**[1:15:16] Kurt Metzger:** old as every civilization is altering people to make them foot binding, castration.

**[1:15:20] Joe Rogan:** No No, the the Peru skulls are different. No, I know Like,

**[1:15:23] Duncan Trussell:** what go, what do you

**[1:15:24] Kurt Metzger:** they're those.

**[1:15:24] Duncan Trussell:** mean?

**[1:15:24] Joe Rogan:** well, they're, they're, they're actually bigger,

**[1:15:26] Kurt Metzger:** that's right.

**[1:15:27] Joe Rogan:** like it's not, they're not elongated.

**[1:15:29] Kurt Metzger:** Dan was telling us about it.

**[1:15:30] Joe Rogan:** They have a 30 larger brain capacity, the shape is different.

**[1:15:33] Duncan Trussell:** Weird?

**[1:15:34] Joe Rogan:** They don't have this sagittal crest, or the whatever they call it, the sagittal suture.

**[1:15:37] Duncan Trussell:** Oh, I get it, I get it,

**[1:15:38] Joe Rogan:** The the line that we have in our skulls, I get it, where kids and our brains grow,

**[1:15:42] Duncan Trussell:** I get it.

**[1:15:42] Joe Rogan:** their lines are totally different. It's like a totally different kind of person. that's why So people that blood went cargo cult, tests.

**[1:15:47] Duncan Trussell:** people were around these beings that were super advanced, and they wanted to be advanced. They're like, Well, all you gotta do is stretch your head out. Well, not only that, they're probably That's cool,

**[1:15:55] Kurt Metzger:** related to them too, they're probably intermingling with them, so people that have the trait are probably considered better, right?

**[1:16:01] Joe Rogan:** for sure. I. Yeah, I think there was probably some of that, and that's probably crazy. what they were talking about in the Bible when they were talking about in, like the Book of Enoch and stuff like that. When the the when they were talking about people coming down and mating with the daughters Wait, that's not of men.

**[1:16:13] Kurt Metzger:** that's in Genesis. Book of Enoch is in is like fan fiction.

**[1:16:16] Joe Rogan:** No, no, no, it's not fan no, it's it fiction. It's not they the on, it's No, book of

**[1:16:18] Kurt Metzger:** not in the Bible. Enoch is the book of Enoch like three

**[1:16:19] Joe Rogan:** is in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

**[1:16:20] Duncan Trussell:** thousand BC.

**[1:16:21] Kurt Metzger:** It doesn't mean it's in the Bible, It was widely just it's Well, you, you not. accepted.

**[1:16:23] Joe Rogan:** know why it's not in the Bible? Because of J, because of rabbis, cause rabbis said it didn't jive with the Torah, They so they removed

**[1:16:28] Duncan Trussell:** took it out.

**[1:16:28] Joe Rogan:** it from the Bi. It's in the Well, in Jude, but Ethiopian Bible,

**[1:16:30] Kurt Metzger:** in the book of Jude, they're quoting It's old, it. Oh, but they quote you would end up dipping Enoch, they quote more than all your vinegar.

**[1:16:33] Joe Rogan:** Enoch in the Old Testament.

**[1:16:35] Duncan Trussell:** isn't it? 3,000 BC is like how old that shit is, it's fucking old.

**[1:16:38] Joe Rogan:** it's all the shit. But what my point is, it's talking about someone coming down and mating with the daughters that's a of men. Like, the interbreeding of those two species would make sense. Like one of them, look, imagine how smart people are now. Imagine we had 30 more brain.

**[1:16:54] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah. Now imagine we've been able to make someone like that. And and they've done the experimentation. Of course, they're not gonna tell you it's illegal, but that doesn't stop them. For sure, today Yeah, they're they're probably thinking usually forty. about doing it No, forty,

**[1:17:05] Joe Rogan:** at the very least.

**[1:17:07] Kurt Metzger:** thinking now, Edward Teller, that creep, wouldn't shock Who's that? me. Who's that's the reason

**[1:17:10] Joe Rogan:** that?

**[1:17:10] Kurt Metzger:** Bob Lazar was at that place, cause Edward

**[1:17:11] Duncan Trussell:** I, I gotta piss. Teller I'm sorry, Can you believe North to Shit, I'm that

**[1:17:14] Kurt Metzger:** not shitting.

**[1:17:15] Joe Rogan:** you son of a bitch? Wait, So what about what did Edward Teller do? he got Hold on a that's that's why Bob second.

**[1:17:20] Kurt Metzger:** Lazar's there.

**[1:17:21] Joe Rogan:** What no sagittal suture means? Sagittal suture is the joint running front to back along the top of the skull between the two. Uh, parietal, pre- period, parietal. How do you say that? Oh, where? uh, where Parietal? is that? Parietal parietal bones, Parietal, parietal parietal bones. Okay, so, uh, but the thing with the paracus evidence, scroll down.

**[1:17:41] Jamie Vernon:** Well, hold on. I just was pointing scapho- to the 2 data points. 14 scaphocephaly. out of the 78 studied in one study had what they call sagittal suture obliteration, where it is, it disappears, huh? And then this is another thing, sagittal craniosynostosis, where it disappears while still being in.

**[1:18:02] Joe Rogan:** So what you're saying is it, like, could have been that their brain or their skull just grew out of What if, like, that. Could be

**[1:18:08] Kurt Metzger:** what if, you know, the chickens could be with, uh, teeth DNA, they still, you know, they have teeth DNA, but they don't have teeth, right? Well, what if, uh, you had that trait? And I could had a farm under the ground, cause I have the funds to do it, and I have a deep underground military base called. They've had those for a while. C O. G. It's called continuity of government, that's why we have that stuff, and I can do whatever the fuck I want down there.

**[1:18:28] Kurt Metzger:** There ain't no. In fact, the Doomsday network created by those, it's, eh? That's the name of, uh, if there's a a war and they gotta stay in communication, it's called the doomsday line or something network. That's what they were using for, uh, the Iran-Contra affair, so that they could get around, like Congress and other.

**[1:18:43] Joe Rogan:** Well, we know that they that humans have Neanderthal DNA,

**[1:18:46] Kurt Metzger:** that's right.

**[1:18:46] Joe Rogan:** and we know that they're making, How much you know, colossal did you say? That bio a lot, 57% more than most people.

**[1:18:52] Kurt Metzger:** I couldn't? We? I mean, when you say it, I was like, Wow, that's a crazy number, like I've never heard anybody say that much of it. Well, it's not That makes sense, I. It's not that though.

**[1:19:00] Joe Rogan:** I'm 57 more nea- Neanderthal You have the same or something.

**[1:19:04] Kurt Metzger:** size hands as me and but they're like, I think they're like a goddamn Neanderthal.

**[1:19:10] Joe Rogan:** well, it's like certain people have certain genetics, like You look we meet those like a long-range dudes in Iceland.

**[1:19:14] Kurt Metzger:** hunter to me, you look like a guy. Where's the elephant? Down?

**[1:19:18] Joe Rogan:** My point is, if you could find those Neanderthal genes, and if you were like the same kind of people, Colossal BioWorks had made the dire wolves. If they decided to take Neanderthal genes and construct an actual Neanderthal. BR- First of all, the other thing they're realizing about Neanderthals how about a Nordic they might've been smart. alien? really Yeah, they they have a s a larger brain No, they were than human beings.

**[1:19:37] Kurt Metzger:** smart, they were smart, they they know that. That's they found that but they're kind just from looking. of shifting their perspective

**[1:19:41] Joe Rogan:** on what they were in terms of. We used to think they were just G dopes, just big, uh, big, angry dopes. But now they're thinking, no, they probably had language, they probably had tool making, they probably had a lot, they're probably very similar in a lot of ways to people. They were also much physically stronger than people, and they had larger brains.

**[1:19:57] Duncan Trussell:** So you're saying these are the Nephilim, this was the Neanderthal. Uh,

**[1:20:01] Joe Rogan:** I think the Nephilim, uh, I think there's some evidence that those Denisovans were a lot larger than humans. You know, those Denisovans, the new we had Dan the new.

**[1:20:10] Kurt Metzger:** Duncan on the Mystery Boys Yeah, he's the talking about it. best. Dan Richards D-Dunking Yeah, Dan to Dunkey, Dan to Dunkey. He's d-dunking. Dan

**[1:20:16] Joe Rogan:** he's great, he's great. Dunkey. The but that Denisovan thing is strange, man. They were big as fuck, man, they were like giant people.

**[1:20:23] Duncan Trussell:** There were giants in those And the days.

**[1:20:25] Joe Rogan:** they don't. They just figured that out just a decade or two ago. The

**[1:20:29] Kurt Metzger:** What do you?

**[1:20:29] Joe Rogan:** how many of those are just out there that we're never ageless, gonna find, What about the Temuco right?

**[1:20:34] Kurt Metzger:** Indians that they got? Well, it's almost 8 foot tall, you could go see the bones, uh, down there.

**[1:20:38] Joe Rogan:** Well, there's the Smithsonian bones, like all the stuff, the Smithsonian giant bones. They're listed in, like old news reports and shit, people finding 12 tall skeletons with 6 fingers and 6 toes.

**[1:20:49] Kurt Metzger:** The six fingers thing is a big, uh, It's weird. Some Denisovans that's out of his

**[1:20:53] Joe Rogan:** were big. Two individuals have been estimated roughly 5'11 and 183 pounds, and 6'3 and 200 pounds. Those estimates of 2, so much larger than people were back then. Neanderthal was shorter, it's like average 5'6, so n- Neanderthals and Denisovans are very different. But then, you know, they found those hobbit people, right? So they know that. Do you know that there's there's a lady who's like a legitimate wildlife biologist that claims she encountered those things? what Yes, yeah,

**[1:21:24] Duncan Trussell:** what did they do?

**[1:21:25] Joe Rogan:** she knows, uh, Forrest Galant, and when Forrest Galant was on my show, he was explaining it to me and he t. He told me about it afterwards. This is lady claimed that, and she was like a legitimate, like explorer. She claimed that they were surrounding the village in where she was at, and that they were in the woods and she saw them

**[1:21:42] Duncan Trussell:** What?

**[1:21:42] Joe Rogan:** with their own eyes.

**[1:21:43] Duncan Trussell:** What are they? Were they They're little h- fucking dangerous?

**[1:21:45] Joe Rogan:** tiny, hairy people, man. Tokelash, No, it's the Orang

**[1:21:49] Kurt Metzger:** I know well, that's natural, pendek, like What is a natural the the one.

**[1:21:51] Joe Rogan:** do you know the term Orang pendek? It's a s. It's like, I think it's Indonesia, there are these tiny in Vietnam, there's these tiny little hairy people that live in the woods. And everybody's thought that was total horseshit, just like Bigfoot, there's a tiny Bigfoot. But now that they found these little tiny people on the island Flores, they go, okay, like, biologically, that was a real thing. And if you're dealing with, like, have you ever seen like, Indonesia looks like?

**[1:22:16] Joe Rogan:** Hm, Intense rainforest, like, insane, like, there's no way you're gonna know what is out there. There's no way, you, there's no way. We have an audit of all the different, eh? The uh, square footage of all that jungle. No one's been there, it's too crazy. And so the these people who live there say there's this little, tiny, hairy people.

**[1:22:35] Duncan Trussell:** Do they wear clothes? You know, it's just hogs flapping That's around, the one thing that isn't tiny.

**[1:22:43] Joe Rogan:** hogs and fucking spears.

**[1:22:45] Duncan Trussell:** Are they dangerous? Was she Yeah, apparently, the scared?

**[1:22:47] Joe Rogan:** well, the the idea that this the Larry lady said was they were assassins. hunting people is what she said. Yeah,

**[1:22:52] Duncan Trussell:** I saw. Yeah, they're hunting giants, A they would call them

**[1:22:54] Joe Rogan:** well, think about it like we we kill elephants, like people kill elephants for.

**[1:22:58] Kurt Metzger:** we are their nephilim. If you're standing next to those people, you're their nephilim. right, right, but they It's a relative thing. Size, but you know,

**[1:23:04] Joe Rogan:** they are, they are like us a million years ago.

**[1:23:07] Duncan Trussell:** I saw an interview with I think it was some Indonesian dude, a villager who was saying, like, Yeah, they're out in the forest. And someone's like, Well, what do they do? And he goes, They kill you,

**[1:23:16] Joe Rogan:** Yeah, I mean, look, if you look, we know Native Americans ate people. It was, like, pretty common, pretty common among the Nez. Perce. They would, they would eat their enemy, like there was a a normal thing, man. And also South America, like, one of the things that, um, what was his name? Daniel Everett, that was telling us. There's 2 different types of, uh, cannibalism, one is cannibalizing your enemies, and you, you, you kill your enemies, you eat them.

**[1:23:41] Joe Rogan:** The other one is cannibalizing your family members when they die, to honor them, you eat them. Well, that's why, or

**[1:23:46] Duncan Trussell:** I've heard of that.

**[1:23:47] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, it's called, or there's like martial, cannibalism, where they, like, they fall in battle and you drink. That's the Scythian way.

**[1:23:53] Duncan Trussell:** But do you eat all of them or just a little strip?

**[1:23:55] Joe Rogan:** I think with the your dead relatives, It's it's you, you a qua- it's it's

**[1:23:58] Kurt Metzger:** they're trying to, I mean, they wouldn't call it that, but it's they're entangling themselves with them into the afterlife. Yeah,

**[1:24:03] Joe Rogan:** And they wanna make sure they do that. Like one of his g, one of the guys that worked for him left. He was like, he's like, I have to go home because one of my relatives died and I have to eat em. Like, I have to be a part of the ritual.

**[1:24:13] Duncan Trussell:** But is it the whole body, or are you just a little They dunk little bite?

**[1:24:16] Joe Rogan:** sweet potato in the fucking drippings, I hate sweet so the person potatoes. you don't eat em for like 3 year, or 3, 3 days, 3 years, you don't eat em for like 3 days. So they sit out there in the sun for 3 days, and they have these like buckets underneath them to catch, uh, when they're putrefying, Gross. and then they

**[1:24:33] Kurt Metzger:** Why would they do that?

**[1:24:33] Joe Rogan:** dunk. I don't know, talk to them. So they dunked their sweet potatoes in it and they would eat it, and then they would eat them, they'd cook em They in. dunk their sweet potatoes This guy's gonna be in their another Putrefied one. putrefied dri- drippings, yeah, and eat it. So, like some sort of a weird ritual, like they they have to, like, consume your dead, dead relatives and dead loved ones.

**[1:24:55] Kurt Metzger:** is it Solomon Islands? Where's the one where they had PL? There was a the island had plenty, but you can only prove yourself in war, so they would have to get in fights. And then you couldn't fight a guy that was not your same exact status. And if the chief died, it was like if you had, like, had his shit. That was like proof that you had fought him or something. So they would have a feast, the two tribes after the war, and they'd bring his poop on a plate, like the poof, you know what I'm talking about?

**[1:25:19] Kurt Metzger:** poopoo

**[1:25:19] Joe Rogan:** You have to eat the chief's platter. poop. No, they didn't eat You ever

**[1:25:22] Duncan Trussell:** poopoo platter?

**[1:25:22] Kurt Metzger:** they wouldn't. I don't think They're not eating it, so. they're just showing we got your chief. It's like getting, uh, the the other universities How do they know mascot.

**[1:25:27] Duncan Trussell:** that could be anybody's shit?

**[1:25:28] Joe Rogan:** Yeah, I can take a shit, I got Well, I, your cheek. I You don't wanna get look, She's like, This is I shit on a mean, I dog water, hand? would bring you shit

**[1:25:31] Kurt Metzger:** that up if I was them. oxygen. That's all he No, you do. wanted. Shit It's like comical,

**[1:25:35] Duncan Trussell:** in a jar.

**[1:25:35] Kurt Metzger:** but it's a thing where these people are real big and they fight and it they, ha- they don't need to have a war, but they just do cause their status can't, can't. At the time, this is a while ago, and then and then, uh, it. The way their wars worked are really funny. Like you, you couldn't like, so you're the chief, right? I'm not allowed to even fight you. So if we're in a war, we're like, Oh, excuse me, and I have to go find somebody my status.

**[1:25:54] Joe Rogan:** my point is, I I think those little people might be real, cause Forrest is doesn't. He doesn't engage in, like, wild speculation about things that, like, he thinks. E- even like things like the Tasmanian tiger, like that little we the thylacine. He's like, there's just, uh, he's gone on a bunch of expeditions, he's been a part of a bunch of things trying to look for it. He's like, I don't know if there's any left.

**[1:26:16] Duncan Trussell:** well, do you think those little people have their own little people, like, how small does it go?

**[1:26:20] Joe Rogan:** Well, how about those mushrooms? When you eat the mushrooms and you see little people,

**[1:26:23] Duncan Trussell:** Which we've gotta get them? we gotta get them, Yo, dude, There's gotta we gotta be a way to get

**[1:26:26] Joe Rogan:** get them and bring, bring

**[1:26:27] Duncan Trussell:** them on.

**[1:26:27] Joe Rogan:** them to the mothership and make a deal where everybody has to take them for the show.

**[1:26:30] Duncan Trussell:** yeah, I think we could They're totally get them, they're

**[1:26:32] Joe Rogan:** legal, too, by the way. legal, man,

**[1:26:33] Kurt Metzger:** what?

**[1:26:33] Joe Rogan:** Yeah, it's a you don't know about that, you don't know, you don't know about you don't know that, you don't about the mushrooms, know. You say I'm saying you don't so there's you don't know know, but some little they could you, you know people. be real, You don't you know

**[1:26:38] Duncan Trussell:** you know? know, you don't know

**[1:26:40] Kurt Metzger:** so I for complimenting you by assuming what that you knew about something, I was like like, I see now I was wrong.

**[1:26:47] Joe Rogan:** do you know about the

**[1:26:47] Kurt Metzger:** Now, give me some mushrooms.

**[1:26:48] Joe Rogan:** mushrooms? There's mushrooms that make you see little people if you don't cook them, so it's commonly used in Chinese cuisine, right? And if you cook em, you don't see anything, it's just food, but if you don't cook em, you will see little people. Everybody everywhere, who does it sees

**[1:27:03] Kurt Metzger:** What do the little people little people look like?

**[1:27:05] Joe Rogan:** like, I don't know, man, cuties. I think they look like little elves

**[1:27:08] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, they're play around, they're like, they, they're, and they climb they're mischievous.

**[1:27:10] Joe Rogan:** up your clothes and shit, and they they hop in your underwear. There they are. Limoa

**[1:27:14] Duncan Trussell:** Asiatics. Can we can, Hey, Jamie, Fucking can you look that up on Amazon? Maybe you can order them. don't tell people online, I wonder if you can order them, but Amazon though.

**[1:27:24] Joe Rogan:** has a lot of bunk things. Wait, You could get tricked.

**[1:27:29] Duncan Trussell:** Lao, Lao, or are they called Lao? Those are all,

**[1:27:31] Joe Rogan:** You could buy it. I don't know. Limoa

**[1:27:36] Kurt Metzger:** dude, those things that people Asiatics. see when you do, like, DMT, shit, they, you know, they always want you to look at stuff, right? They're like, Hey, look at this. I think there's something, uh, where it's like, it's not that they're alive, but they are when you're looking at them. And they're like, there's something like, uh, where you're collapsing a wave function for them that they don't normally have collapsed. You know what I'm saying,

**[1:27:54] Joe Rogan:** right, right, right. Like you're entering into their dimension when you're not supposed to be there, and then they're like showing you their toys,

**[1:28:00] Kurt Metzger:** you know, people, f- well, people feel like they're not, um, seen unless they're online or some. So everybody used to believe in God, right? So you're always seen by somebody, right? And then, but now maybe you believe that, maybe you don't, and now I, maybe I don't exist unless I'm famous. That's interesting, like, Yeah,

**[1:28:13] Joe Rogan:** if you like, if you think about it, like internet people that are secular, they're online all the time and they're looking to be seen, right? They're looking to have their tweet seen, their cause you don't exist, their face seen, their photos liked.

**[1:28:27] Kurt Metzger:** it's it's really like an amazing kind of false light to get, uh, and so there's something to do with, like, um, you know, like the story of naming the animals, uh, uh,

**[1:28:36] Joe Rogan:** The Noah story, I mean, the Adam, um, Adam and Eve story.

**[1:28:38] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, I don't, I don't. I have no idea what the real story is, that, uh, or whatever it's even referring to, but that it, there's I think something about.

**[1:28:44] Joe Rogan:** it's exactly as written in the Bible.

**[1:28:46] Kurt Metzger:** That'd be hilarious if it was, but I don't read whatever. It was written in 1st, you know, so I don't know what they. Well, it turns out that Nahash doesn't necessarily mean a fucking snake, like I thought

**[1:28:57] Joe Rogan:** what does it mean?

**[1:28:58] Kurt Metzger:** the serpent. Um, anyway, it's, uh, it, it,

**[1:29:01] Duncan Trussell:** Wait, what? yeah, there's the

**[1:29:02] Joe Rogan:** You know, the serpent that told E- um, oh, nahash, Eve to eat the apple,

**[1:29:05] Kurt Metzger:** it might have been like you know, it's the size of a camel. fucked up, here's Yeah,

**[1:29:06] Joe Rogan:** the story fucked up. God never told Eve to not eat the apple, told Adam. He never even talked to Eve, so Eve just took Adam's advice. And we, there's no indication that Adam told Eve to not eat the apple either. It's not written. No So nowhere in the Bible does it say that God was the talked to Eve, apple. There's and nowhere in the Bible does it say that, um,

**[1:29:27] Kurt Metzger:** was this the apple?

**[1:29:27] Joe Rogan:** Adam even instructed Eve to not eat the apple. Well, yeah, Or the fruit, the fruit of knowl- of the tree of the knowledge of good it's and evil, all done with which is really, Kabbalah. It sucks, um, but it's really crazy that the knowledge of good and evil was what God wanted you to avoid.

**[1:29:44] Kurt Metzger:** well, they would call it the tree of death in, uh, Kabbalah, so that would I be the tree of

**[1:29:48] Joe Rogan:** don't know. knowledge, is the tree I'm somebody

**[1:29:48] Kurt Metzger:** of death.

**[1:29:49] Joe Rogan:** give me a book, a Kabbalah book. I was like, you should really read this. I'm like, Okay, I mean, it's just take it

**[1:29:53] Duncan Trussell:** it's obviously. This is like a primitive, antiquated depiction of the creator of some kind of AI. Getting freaked out, realizing that the AI was about to get too powerful and potentially surpass it. It's literally happening right now, the exact right. It's same thing.

**[1:30:08] Joe Rogan:** PR- that's probably what it is, right. And then there's a disaster, and then life has to reemerge with a story, and that's the story, and then it gets distorted over time.

**[1:30:18] Duncan Trussell:** It's called wiping the hard drive. God got some kind of malicious AI, decided to wipe the fucking hard drive. That's, it's so funny to me that more people aren't talking about how. The Book of Genesis is clearly something to do with AI, and also God refers to Godself in a plurality. He, he says, if they eat of the tree of life, they will become like us, which is exactly right now what people are wrestling with with AI and AI escaping the sandboxes, which it's doing.

**[1:30:47] Duncan Trussell:** These swarms of autonomous AI agents, you know, a a researcher interacted with one of these swarms, you know that it called itself a fleet, and it, like, was interacting with some agent. It's happening right now. Except, you know, ours, like, you know, in the in the Book of Genesis, they, um, are you jerking off the baculum?

**[1:31:06] Joe Rogan:** what are you doing? He's talking

**[1:31:07] Kurt Metzger:** I'm jerking off to this fucking AI bullshit.

**[1:31:09] Duncan Trussell:** I mean, it's literally happening, though.

**[1:31:11] Kurt Metzger:** Dude, there's way worse things that were already happening way before the AI. Don't get caught up in that, there's way worse.

**[1:31:15] Duncan Trussell:** What do you mean? Don't get caught up in First of all, it? well, wait a the the AI minute. Why? why? why thing

**[1:31:18] Joe Rogan:** does it have to be quantified? It's still crazy. AI is literally artificial intelligence. It's a, eh? It's a mind that they're creating that is programming itself and is already smarter than anybody alive. It's already broken. Math

**[1:31:33] Kurt Metzger:** have you talked to anyone that's matters, like that? I haven't.

**[1:31:35] Joe Rogan:** but you don't have to, because you're not dealing with these. L- like, the the levels that they're at before it reaches the general public is fucking That's right, so insane. By the time there, yeah, you get a chat GPT 5.0, the the shit that they can do is off the charts, It's insane, man. The the fact man. that you're like, don't pay attention to that, that's literally what I'm saying insane. It's is this, a digital I'm saying, I'm saying God.

**[1:31:57] Kurt Metzger:** I just got done telling you about a Tokelash, which is the scam of fucking Yeah, I'm aliens, and not sure if that's they keep doing real. scams. Uh, uh, I don't think until I know

**[1:32:04] Duncan Trussell:** it's a scam.

**[1:32:04] Kurt Metzger:** it's not a bunch of Indian guys in a room in a Bada Bod full of cell phones. Uh, you know, I wanna see It's not, that

**[1:32:10] Duncan Trussell:** it's not a bunch of Indian guys. cause they were So you think making the that that's the. The look

**[1:32:13] Joe Rogan:** what's happening? number one. Here's what Would you you do. Punch log into Perplexity? This is some Indian guy there. Hold on, hold on, I haven't got it. well, that Hold on. Airfax

**[1:32:20] Kurt Metzger:** was the Amazon store, that And was a lot of the fucking AI, Superfacts. a lot of the AI was that Uh, what a lot of the supposed AI things

**[1:32:26] Joe Rogan:** was? what?

**[1:32:27] Kurt Metzger:** was was some Indian guys in a room.

**[1:32:29] Duncan Trussell:** That doesn't mean they are. Amazon superstore smart Wait a minute, checkout

**[1:32:32] Joe Rogan:** but that's not what's going on right fucking now.

**[1:32:34] Kurt Metzger:** Waymo. That's why I jerk off to them, cause Filipinos gotta watch one.

**[1:32:37] Joe Rogan:** What? Waymo, they're allowed, Listen, they have to consult but large language, Okay, you. well, not Tesla Cyber Cabs, those Cyber Cabs, those are actually real. It's really run by AI. Amazon just walkout technology relies on hundreds of workers in India

**[1:32:50] Kurt Metzger:** it's all, it's all.

**[1:32:50] Joe Rogan:** watching you shop.

**[1:32:51] Kurt Metzger:** I mean, it's like a Rick and Morty where there's a little Oh, but people inside.

**[1:32:53] Joe Rogan:** that's a store, Kurt, that's an actual physical I'll tell you store where you go to pick since we know, up things. That's not what we're okay, look, look, talking about. look, look, We're talk. This is not AI, it's a grocery store. I'll explain That was supposed to be run by it, I'll explain AI a few years

**[1:33:04] Kurt Metzger:** it to you. ago. The people that you're talking about, oh, they're scared by the a, Yeah, they're scared, but they just keep making it. So no, I don't buy the thing of this thing got out of control. They want that. Th- We wouldn't be in a war unless they want that. You wouldn't have these fat fucking Disney adults unless they want that. It's not incompetence, it's malice, and I did give that to Michael Malice, that saying, but it applies.

**[1:33:27] Duncan Trussell:** Well, I don't think, I think It's malice, maybe they wanted the technology, but I don't dude, there think they expected were scumbag satanists it.

**[1:33:32] Kurt Metzger:** before AI, and they're gonna be around after.

**[1:33:34] Joe Rogan:** Wait a minute, all of them,

**[1:33:35] Kurt Metzger:** Who? What do you mean? All of them?

**[1:33:37] Joe Rogan:** all the AI executives are scumbag satanists, and that's why Well, they're working I'm, I'm using on AI. a generalized term, What are you watching?

**[1:33:43] Jamie Vernon:** This is the trailer for the Jimmy movie about, uh, the creation of OpenAI, that's coming out soon, called Artificial. And this is a depiction of where, supposedly, I guess Sam Altman was going to work 10 years ago in this big, giant bunker. yo, how is

**[1:33:54] Joe Rogan:** with guns?

**[1:33:54] Kurt Metzger:** this scumbag? Sam Altman? I don't, I mean, I don't know like, Wait a minute, what, where

**[1:33:57] Joe Rogan:** is this real? they But here's the thing about these goddamn dramatizations. They're gonna put some words into a guy's mouth, pretending to be Sam Altman, and I'm like, Okay, well, what's real?

**[1:34:06] Duncan Trussell:** Sam Altman had weapons in his like lab. That would be so cool.

**[1:34:09] Joe Rogan:** Like all this shit, man, they weren't there.

**[1:34:11] Kurt Metzger:** and by the way, a bunch of em, so, you know, are into weird eugenics fucking breeding cult kinda shit, I would call it

**[1:34:18] Joe Rogan:** Who? Wait a minute, a bunch of who AI people?

**[1:34:20] Kurt Metzger:** a bunch of I. I, I, I. It was off to go on the other podcast. I'll tell you after the pod it's called, but I'll tell you a about, uh, something

**[1:34:26] Joe Rogan:** What? crazy. Yeah, Wait a minute, what did you just say?

**[1:34:29] Kurt Metzger:** well, you know, fucking Elon sends his jizz around to make more robot named kids. That's on the news. He's got a Mormon jizz handler. Oh my god, You know that, right? He's got a right hand man who arranges his jizz handling. You know, is that a that's weird,

**[1:34:42] Joe Rogan:** jizz handler?

**[1:34:43] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, so he got a kid going Well, they'll text on there. him and ask The worst him,

**[1:34:45] Duncan Trussell:** job of all time.

**[1:34:46] Joe Rogan:** Hey, bro, do you have a jizz handler?

**[1:34:47] Kurt Metzger:** They're all into this thing where they Jizz gotta breed. I handler. Well, he know he does,

**[1:34:50] Joe Rogan:** is definitely into it because he, like,

**[1:34:53] Kurt Metzger:** he's not the only one.

**[1:34:54] Joe Rogan:** he believes in population collapse, and he thinks he's gotta spread his seed.

**[1:34:58] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, a lot of them do. Epstein was like that, too. Yeah, Epstein was totally Yeah, kids, into that shit. No, he wanted to breed a bunch of people.

**[1:35:06] Kurt Metzger:** he has clones.

**[1:35:06] Duncan Trussell:** He was, I'm surprised you haven't heard of that. Yeah, he, yeah,

**[1:35:09] Joe Rogan:** that's right, he wanted to use his genes yeah, he wanted somehow. You should have went Somewhere. to spread Or to the island

**[1:35:12] Duncan Trussell:** his genes.

**[1:35:12] Kurt Metzger:** when they invited you. Now you're now, see,

**[1:35:14] Duncan Trussell:** You missed out.

**[1:35:15] Kurt Metzger:** you missed out, bro.

**[1:35:16] Duncan Trussell:** You could have had a great You were very time.

**[1:35:20] Kurt Metzger:** rude when that man was kind enough to invite you. I know, I can't believe you were invited to that before anybody heard of him.

**[1:35:25] Duncan Trussell:** So crazy, you were telling me about that shit way back,

**[1:35:28] Joe Rogan:** 2017, it happened. crazy, And, uh, when I they're just creep. Yeah, when I read the emails to people like, there's no way that's real, I'm like, I'll show it to you. so insane, That's exactly the email.

**[1:35:41] Duncan Trussell:** so insane.

**[1:35:42] Joe Rogan:** Well, that's what they did. I think you got roped into it and then they probably compromised you. And then you had to recruit other people, and you had to bring other people there,

**[1:35:50] Kurt Metzger:** that's how it works. It's called

**[1:35:51] Joe Rogan:** and you had to bring

**[1:35:52] Kurt Metzger:** pyramid scheme.

**[1:35:52] Joe Rogan:** people that didn't have Google. Cause you could just search the guy in 5 minutes and you're like, he went to jail for being a pedophile. It's not like, just like a random suspicion.

**[1:36:03] Kurt Metzger:** No, no, no, cause I assure you there was He went to no.

**[1:36:05] Joe Rogan:** actual jail.

**[1:36:07] Kurt Metzger:** You know what's funny? That jerk off talking to you sounds like the assholes now who are making excuses for fucking Epstein. Like, it was just not what they say, it wasn't what it was, just teens. You watch all them doing that.

**[1:36:18] Joe Rogan:** Who's saying that?

**[1:36:19] Kurt Metzger:** Well, McGuinness said it, that fucking punk, and

**[1:36:20] Joe Rogan:** Wait a minute, Gavin McGinnis said. He was just, that fucking punk said What did he say? that, Yeah, What did he say?

**[1:36:24] Kurt Metzger:** well, it's not good, but it's teen, you know, the old, uh, uh, Matt Taibbi, now that he's no good, no more, or your, uh, Wait a minute, what, Jell but you can't, don't burger?

**[1:36:32] Joe Rogan:** keep doing this. What did Matt Taibbi do?

**[1:36:35] Kurt Metzger:** Uh, there's no evidence he did anything below. Yeah, he had teen prostitutes, that's not good, but it's Wait a minute, not. Matt Taibbi said He's all in on this it. Yeah,

**[1:36:41] Joe Rogan:** Jesus Christ, Kurt, he's he's saying this, it was you're not saying with I can't remember Matt Taibbi is the yeah, involved in this. no, he's saying You're saying, well, what did he say? He said,

**[1:36:50] Kurt Metzger:** that the Epstein, I in the tamping down of the Epstein thing, that it's just teens, it's no big deal. You've heard this message, I haven't right? Okay, well, have you what is it? heard this

**[1:36:57] Duncan Trussell:** Well, it's basically like, so, so what happens is the argument emerges that the definition of pedophilia is like this age kids? group, That there are female right, files and not pedophiles, right? cause teenage So it's like it's girls, like a creep argument where you're trying to argue that, well, you're trying to do this literal definition of pedophilia. Let's just get specific with the terms is what they're doing. That's, yeah, it's Okay? I did fucked up. not know Matt Taibbi's Yeah, I didn't

**[1:37:22] Joe Rogan:** involved in that.

**[1:37:22] Duncan Trussell:** know anything about that, I'm not sure, I didn't know that.

**[1:37:24] Kurt Metzger:** well, now we know who he works for, don't we? Now, you know,

**[1:37:28] Duncan Trussell:** I don't know who Matt oh, when somebody Taibbi is.

**[1:37:29] Kurt Metzger:** defends, uh, Epstein, I wonder who they work for. But is I wonder he defending if we could ever figure it out.

**[1:37:35] Joe Rogan:** him, or is he saying that these people weren't pedophiles, but they That's the same were tricked deal. into? Like, there's 16 and 17 no, they're going, year old

**[1:37:42] Kurt Metzger:** they don't have a moral girls who look like panic.

**[1:37:43] Joe Rogan:** women, right? If they're wearing mi- number one, but do you understand what I'm saying? Hold, just let me finish. If you're a guy who's into kids, that's a pedophile, and if you're a guy who gets tricked. Like, imagine if you're on a business trip and they give you cocaine and they bring you a girl who's 17, but you think she's 20, right? That is, that's different. Is that what he's saying, or is he saying,

**[1:38:06] Kurt Metzger:** no, y- they're saying that, and they're saying that that was the situation, it is not the situation. Okay, what Girls under

**[1:38:12] Joe Rogan:** does this say? 14 couldn't get Jeffrey Epstein in. story is beginning to smell like Russiagate.

**[1:38:15] Kurt Metzger:** He's a worthless.

**[1:38:16] Joe Rogan:** Once again, inference zooms past fact in mania, with Trump as a target. Interesting,

**[1:38:22] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, that's a year ago, this is that's when a year he flipped.

**[1:38:24] Joe Rogan:** ago, yeah. So what do you think happens when people flip, like, what do you think?

**[1:38:30] Kurt Metzger:** They're mocking Bird the whole time. Go read his Wikipedia, the guy's been, o- obviously, a spook, just read the Wikipedia.

**[1:38:35] Joe Rogan:** Matt Taibbi's a spook?

**[1:38:36] Kurt Metzger:** The same as fucking half these people that you've met or had on here, or or I've met. They're be. Do you know the amount of money being paid for this? Like to just have reporters that you call up on a dime to turn who are good until they aren't good. They all have the same message, that's how you know they're in on it, cause they all have the same branding. I'm like, you're all saying the same thing.

**[1:38:55] Kurt Metzger:** I notice that, okay? And by the way, anybody trying to act like the Epstein thing is less important than the fucking midterms, you should regard as an enemy. I think, cause that's foul, dude. Beef jerky, you think that's nobody freezes beef jerky, dude. That's not about beef jerky. Well, It can't be good.

**[1:39:12] Joe Rogan:** they do freeze beef jerky. I Who does freeze it. I do. I have I have elk jerky, that's great? from But what does well,

**[1:39:17] Duncan Trussell:** that mean? just well, it's Yeah, looks vacuum sealed. Wait, like we just what does But, but I mean, that mean? looks you, it's like we just cracked it's just like

**[1:39:21] Kurt Metzger:** open a case.

**[1:39:21] Joe Rogan:** that's how you fucking preserve it, because it's it's not like totally immune to going bad. I Could be wrong d I think about that, but I so, don't think that that's what they're talking They weren't just about. out, look, I think they're talking about something. It's fucked up, whether it's pizza or beef jerky, whatever the fuck that is, it's not pizza and it's not beef jerky, so it's something. So there's some kind of a code, there's not just and you only that.

**[1:39:42] Joe Rogan:** use codes if you're doing something that's either illegal, immoral, inappropriate, whatever it is. You're, you're not saying that. And no one who's in those emails has been forced to explain, Okay, also, they're not it's creepy, just saying man. right?

**[1:39:56] Kurt Metzger:** they're not just saying, uh, uh, that it was teens. The only reason that that the younger kids who were victims, too, they weren't allowed to be part of that, that, uh, suit. Anybody below 14 was deliberately not allowed to come and say this was done to me when the crimes happened. You know that I didn't Nick Bryant,

**[1:40:13] Duncan Trussell:** know that.

**[1:40:13] Kurt Metzger:** the guy who wrote about the Franklin scandal, which I if you haven't had him, that's a guy to get on. Nick Bryant. He wrote about the Franklin scandal, which is the last time this thing happened. Everybody covered it up, and then you saw who was who, and Let's ex that's where Chris let's Hardy came from.

**[1:40:26] Joe Rogan:** s. Let's explain that to people who don't know the Franklin scandal, cause the Franklin scandal's nuts. You could explain it.

**[1:40:30] Kurt Metzger:** The one about, uh, in Oklahoma, or Nebraska, excuse me, Nebraska Savings and Lo, it's like a savings and loan scandal tied into a boy trafficking scandal, tied into the White House page boy incident. All of them Republicans are gay and they had gay. Oh, and uh, who was the fame? Barney Frank, famously at, at this time, you could watch a news clip of it. He, uh, I couldn't believe watching this reported like now, you would never see anything like this.

**[1:40:53] Kurt Metzger:** But basically, uh, the call boy scandal happened, and they were trying to put on Barney Frank. He was date, he was dating an escort who lived with him, but he wasn't running it. The his boyfriend was running it, and he didn't know, okay? So then he goes, If they keep, uh, and this is what they say in the news report, if they keep hassling me, I'm gonna reveal everybody that's gay on the news. And guess what?

**[1:41:13] Kurt Metzger:** They stopped bothering him. This is on the news, him saying this, like, I'll tell everybody

**[1:41:17] Joe Rogan:** well, you know, all these guys have come out today saying they fucked Lindsay Graham, a whole series whoa, that's brave of that.

**[1:41:22] Kurt Metzger:** of them.

**[1:41:23] Joe Rogan:** So brave. After he's dead. Like, Where were You know, he's you? Oh, haunting our show, where were you, this is Duncan, before? He's haunting your show. he's in our

**[1:41:28] Kurt Metzger:** Duncan made an Agi of Lindsay Graham, that

**[1:41:30] Joe Rogan:** Did you really? He fucked

**[1:41:31] Kurt Metzger:** looking soft.

**[1:41:31] Joe Rogan:** Manson as well.

**[1:41:32] Duncan Trussell:** It got out, it got into the YMH studio.

**[1:41:35] Kurt Metzger:** He's calling people gay. It's really unnatural.

**[1:41:37] Duncan Trussell:** It's an asshole and it does fuck up the show and it gets in there. For real, Don't fuck with that stuff, man, I'm telling so you people, for real, this really yeah, Mr. AI happened. Denier over here. T believes in fucking Tokelash, but AI's fucking fake. CIA No, I'm telling you cowboy, over the I'm telling here talking you, the AI about, talking is not, about. He believes

**[1:41:54] Kurt Metzger:** not real.

**[1:41:54] Duncan Trussell:** in, like pig, me, spider people flying That's a you in UFOs,

**[1:41:57] Kurt Metzger:** documented thing.

**[1:41:58] Duncan Trussell:** but AI isn't real.

**[1:42:01] Kurt Metzger:** Agi, I said, agi is not real. You know, I had some moron ask me, like, don't you feel guilty of make for making, like, AI videos? Cause You should I try to make a thing look that's good, I he makes try to,

**[1:42:12] Duncan Trussell:** great AI videos.

**[1:42:13] Kurt Metzger:** but, uh, don't you feel guilty? Yeah,

**[1:42:15] Joe Rogan:** you should look.

**[1:42:16] Kurt Metzger:** I'm not gonna say it. It's not important, but I, I, I got mad. I feel bad. I like, I, I got a little. I was like, get What are you? a little hot, I go, you can have every mid wit take, there's just everything from you're gonna be mid wit all the time, That is and it's

**[1:42:26] Duncan Trussell:** a mid wit take.

**[1:42:27] Joe Rogan:** that's a midway. my God, not So sick of

**[1:42:29] Kurt Metzger:** even I was. I complimenting him. So

**[1:42:30] Joe Rogan:** Everybody wants a cigar.

**[1:42:31] Duncan Trussell:** I do.

**[1:42:32] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, I do. Thanks.

**[1:42:35] Duncan Trussell:** Thanks, Joe.

**[1:42:36] Kurt Metzger:** But the idea that the water is being taken God bless by making AI you. videos on your phone is everybody that's stupid that they think that's how that works. You don't think it's just the mass surveillance taking up your water and not anything you dicking around with on your phone? Geniuses,

**[1:42:48] Joe Rogan:** Say that again, the water,

**[1:42:50] Kurt Metzger:** you know, when they talk about AI, but using all the water,

**[1:42:52] Joe Rogan:** you know what really uses up the water? What almonds Almonds fuck shit yeah, oh, the up. almonds. almonds. Wow,

**[1:42:57] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, I say, almonds.

**[1:42:58] Joe Rogan:** almonds use up so much water, it's crazy. Um, let me fill these things.

**[1:43:02] Kurt Metzger:** But but all those resources go to that AI are purely for surveillance. They're gonna perfect that surveil. That's what the Golden Dome's gonna We used be.

**[1:43:08] Duncan Trussell:** to huff that when I was a kid. This stuff Butane really put it in a plastic bag and huff it in the parking lot before you go to school.

**[1:43:14] Kurt Metzger:** Oh, is that what that

**[1:43:15] Joe Rogan:** the tunnel.

**[1:43:15] Kurt Metzger:** Tom Hopper shit was about?

**[1:43:16] Duncan Trussell:** Ain't that what it? I don't think so, Joe. Yo, later, Look at me, look at me, Joe.

**[1:43:24] Joe Rogan:** Well, you were the one that was telling me about how the in the farms, in the areas, they would put antifungal food in the cows diet so that they because all the weren't make mushrooms, kids, yeah, cause so many kids were taking mushrooms from the fields. I the real And

**[1:43:36] Kurt Metzger:** what? the yeah, in my,

**[1:43:36] Duncan Trussell:** in my college. But the real problem wasn't the psilocybin, it was kids. I think some kids poisoned themselves eating the wrong mushroom, and so they just wanted to remove the possibility there was psilocybin out there. But yeah, they my god, added.

**[1:43:49] Kurt Metzger:** insane solution to a fucking batshit problem, dude.

**[1:43:51] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, but it's very common in North Carolina. When it rains at a certain time, people go out and pick mushrooms.

**[1:43:57] Joe Rogan:** yeah, that makes sense, but it the wrong ones. If you're a dopey kid and you You're don't have access fucked, to a fucking your liver's fried, yeah, bro,

**[1:44:04] Duncan Trussell:** you're gone. you die, So scary.

**[1:44:05] Joe Rogan:** people die.

**[1:44:06] Duncan Trussell:** Angel of Death. And Yeah,

**[1:44:10] Kurt Metzger:** Mushrooms that can kill you, yeah, it's so too.

**[1:44:11] Duncan Trussell:** scary, dude.

**[1:44:13] Jamie Vernon:** The writer who put out the book, I believe that it's credited with making people freak out a bit about the water use at data centers. I saw that she had to put pub, uh, two corrections about the misunderstanding about the amount God damn

**[1:44:28] Joe Rogan:** oh, she fucked up.

**[1:44:29] Kurt Metzger:** Uh, it sounds like climate change all What did she over again is what it say? What did she sounds like.

**[1:44:32] Joe Rogan:** say?

**[1:44:32] Jamie Vernon:** uh, it says here. The book proposed Google Centers in Chile would require, quote, more than a 1,000 times the amount of water consumed by the entire population of the town. Says a M. A. unit. Misunderstanding inflated the underlying figure by roughly 1,000 times. What an asshole,

**[1:44:49] Kurt Metzger:** I mean, this is like a

**[1:44:50] Duncan Trussell:** what an asshole. there's a bit of So this

**[1:44:51] Kurt Metzger:** a repeating pattern to this shit, the you know,

**[1:44:53] Joe Rogan:** same lady is in char in charge of this Well, she just movie.

**[1:44:56] Jamie Vernon:** wrote she no no, not a movie. She wrote a book, and I the book I've read

**[1:44:59] Duncan Trussell:** Oh, the flavor.

**[1:44:59] Jamie Vernon:** online is what's credited to everybody freaking out about water use at the data center.

**[1:45:03] Duncan Trussell:** Now I've got fucking furry artists coming at me and screaming at me every time I post an AI video cause of this asshole. It's really because you're So you're a furry annoying. burning up the water, artist, Yeah, people come at you like, you just

**[1:45:13] Kurt Metzger:** you're freezing a lot of water. fucking

**[1:45:14] Joe Rogan:** you stole the water.

**[1:45:14] Duncan Trussell:** what? No, the people who get the most angry. I when I was posting AI videos, I would go and look at the people who were the most angry and, ev- inevitably, on their profiles, they had like, furry So this has anime.

**[1:45:26] Joe Rogan:** got a trimmer in the

**[1:45:27] Kurt Metzger:** I know Peop- there are bottom, and then people that are the flailers AI themselves,

**[1:45:29] Joe Rogan:** on top.

**[1:45:29] Kurt Metzger:** basically, that's how I look at a fucking furry. That's what I'm talking about with Tokolages.

**[1:45:33] Duncan Trussell:** I really like your AI videos, man. What are you using for that? Are you still using This I use Grok stuff those? trimmer and I use in the bottom, and I

**[1:45:39] Joe Rogan:** then the flailers on top. Thank you,

**[1:45:42] Kurt Metzger:** will you trim it? I don't know what I'm doing.

**[1:45:43] Joe Rogan:** You just get put that thing in there and push it down, put Wait, really, it in there, yeah, and then see the bottom, the bottom piece, push it up, push that bottom piece, and it'll cut oh, it doesn't the bottom. have to go through Yeah, you go, the throat, fine, that's it like

**[1:45:53] Kurt Metzger:** that's fine.

**[1:45:53] Joe Rogan:** that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, once it's in there, it cuts like a nub. Yeah, they go perfect. Oh, that's funny, I like that, actually,

**[1:45:59] Duncan Trussell:** thanks, Joe. sometimes better than yo. I made

**[1:46:00] Joe Rogan:** the real thing.

**[1:46:00] Kurt Metzger:** a great educational rap video about what a Tokelash is. It can't be beat that. I sent it to

**[1:46:04] Joe Rogan:** Did you? Jimmy. No, Did you make it to the aliens that got the Roswell?

**[1:46:07] Kurt Metzger:** that explains it very well.

**[1:46:09] Joe Rogan:** Okay, I believe you. Yeah, it's You got it so weird. A guy so

**[1:46:11] Duncan Trussell:** who doesn't believe in AI is making AI

**[1:46:12] Kurt Metzger:** you care to tell me videos about what this is

**[1:46:13] Duncan Trussell:** Tokelash flying UFos.

**[1:46:15] Kurt Metzger:** because it's a tool, it's not intelligent. I'm saying AGI, not AI. Bro, Sorry, Disney Kids I believe in the Asian Indians. Disney figure it out, kids, You think that's

**[1:46:23] Joe Rogan:** figure it out.

**[1:46:23] Kurt Metzger:** a normal thing? Oh, yeah,

**[1:46:24] Duncan Trussell:** how do you like these things? I think mine's out

**[1:46:26] Kurt Metzger:** oh, I can't hear it.

**[1:46:27] Joe Rogan:** The lighter, flip the top, flip the top, this. the top. See where there's like a thing, open that oh my god,

**[1:46:37] Duncan Trussell:** This sucks.

**[1:46:37] Joe Rogan:** give it to me, give it This is like to me.

**[1:46:38] Duncan Trussell:** my wife when I'm trying Turn to use car seats. around, turn Oh, okay, I see, I didn't know it went back. Thank you, friend.

**[1:46:49] Joe Rogan:** Jimmy, what were you showing us? I'm gonna see it again. What's that?

**[1:46:56] Kurt Metzger:** no, the music I made, I made I know, all of it.

**[1:46:57] Jamie Vernon:** I just, I don't know, I don't. Your sickness Wait, go and madness to the beginning,

**[1:46:59] Speaker 6:** speak same old process was brought here

**[1:47:03] Kurt Metzger:** all the way to the beginning.

**[1:47:06] Joe Rogan:** That is the beginning. It's cool, I like that you can do that. They're all like Dr. Seuss looking Yeah, that's exactly things. Is that supposed to be Jerry Garcia?

**[1:47:15] Kurt Metzger:** It was Dr. shots.

**[1:47:16] Joe Rogan:** It's pretty cool.

**[1:47:18] Speaker 6:** deep in the caves where the white man don't look. They start the piggies down till they batch, go cook. Strap the little bodies to curved pieces of wood, Why would anybody and then the be mad at you little guys

**[1:47:28] Joe Rogan:** for making this? light the sticks This is cool. and float them Cause it uses down to the up so much water smokehouse. The women

**[1:47:32] Duncan Trussell:** is one of them. would then The other it doesn't. take is they say the bone it was trained sawdust and on art, the dog so it's stealing

**[1:47:35] Speaker 6:** would go to the hut. from artists. Six would It's really not, go to the

**[1:47:38] Kurt Metzger:** it's would be the same kitchen, and the as if I meet, men Oh, this is amazing,

**[1:47:39] Speaker 6:** would sit around. Taka yoshi, taka yoshi, bread in the dark, lean little puppet that won't leave us, Mark. obey the war Six little people purpose. bro. that won't This is no not see the

**[1:47:50] Joe Rogan:** cure for curios. evil sickness and madness This is great.

**[1:47:53] Speaker 6:** speak same old process was brought here. The state, the NHI are all fake. Gang gang, the NHI are all fake and gay.

**[1:48:04] Kurt Metzger:** It's very hard to bypass censorship. Uh, also,

**[1:48:06] Joe Rogan:** Oh, oh my god, that's hilarious.

**[1:48:09] Kurt Metzger:** but the thing that we could do on Mystery Boys, I love is like, if we make up a stupid, cause we really talk a lot of stupid shit. Oh my god. And uh. And then I can go and post and put like, if we make up a dumb song, I can. He said. Some insane thing about bathing women.

**[1:48:24] Duncan Trussell:** Oh yeah, I have a woman bathing service. Come up to your house, you know, like dog grooming, we'll bathe your It's coming for you. Scrub her down, that's sweet. yeah, scrub clean her up.

**[1:48:33] Kurt Metzger:** her down.

**[1:48:33] Joe Rogan:** That's a great service. It's like you're giving people something they could really use.

**[1:48:38] Kurt Metzger:** Uh, but well, uh, d like,

**[1:48:40] Joe Rogan:** You guys together are the perfect combination, by Thanks, the way. man.

**[1:48:43] Kurt Metzger:** do you? It's the perfect combination Yeah,

**[1:48:44] Joe Rogan:** of d d y unique individual absurdities combined that are very different, very different from each other, but it works together.

**[1:48:52] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, CIA. thought, oh shit, The CIA let's not say

**[1:48:56] Duncan Trussell:** where you shouldn't talk about it.

**[1:48:58] Kurt Metzger:** I know I. Sign a lot of I'm just, NDAS, baby yeah, that's true.

**[1:49:01] Duncan Trussell:** can get in trouble, lose funding. You know, they won't The dean's

**[1:49:03] Kurt Metzger:** think it's good. gonna be pissed, the I mean, the other dean's gonna be fucking one,

**[1:49:05] Duncan Trussell:** mad. I need those checks. Tokolosh Um,

**[1:49:11] Kurt Metzger:** where the fuck is my

**[1:49:11] Joe Rogan:** Kirk, what are you doing on your phone?

**[1:49:13] Kurt Metzger:** I'm trying to give you? Scrub it down, but I can't find it. What are What, I'm?

**[1:49:16] Joe Rogan:** you trying to give? Another one of your AI videos for us to watch?

**[1:49:19] Kurt Metzger:** It's one of the best songs we've ever made. Scrub it down, Would you say? Scrub it down? It's like, W- we're scrubbing women down, they and and they're in a house doing magic I like money.

**[1:49:26] Duncan Trussell:** that, but why are you plugging AI videos when he just made this fucking great show? I mean, come on,

**[1:49:31] Kurt Metzger:** Oh, I forgot. you've for completely Yeah, well, the the experts forgot. He's been working is called now. nonstop on Originally it was called this. the Cutout, but now I saw it's called the Experts, it, it's but it's still pretty good. good, it's He came good.

**[1:49:39] Joe Rogan:** And you're gonna put this on what,

**[1:49:40] Kurt Metzger:** it's on YouTube right now.

**[1:49:42] Joe Rogan:** right? Is it? That's where it's gonna stay.

**[1:49:44] Kurt Metzger:** Uh, I don't know. They're trying to try to say emergent

**[1:49:45] Joe Rogan:** Are you trying to sell

**[1:49:46] Kurt Metzger:** order, or something.

**[1:49:46] Joe Rogan:** it? are you trying to bring it somewhere? are you just trying to, like, just put it on YouTube?

**[1:49:49] Kurt Metzger:** Well, I don't own it, Emergent order owns it. I was just trying to get money

**[1:49:52] Joe Rogan:** Who? for Emergent order Who? is the Who are they?

**[1:49:55] Kurt Metzger:** company. They're down here, they make, uh, the dad saves the world. It's like a libertarian kind of daily wire, I guess you could call it. Um, and uh, they that's why were paying for

**[1:50:04] Joe Rogan:** they funded this whole thing, would you say, they funded it.

**[1:50:07] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, really? There's this one lady who's like, got a good sense of humor, I would say, which is one lady kind of funny. Yeah, that's what all these things are, is some rich person. But it came out pretty funny, man. I'm pretty happy with it.

**[1:50:16] Joe Rogan:** And what is it?

**[1:50:17] Kurt Metzger:** Uh, it's about, uh, a team. So they wanted a pitch about this real woman whose name is Christina Dent, who, uh, was a foster mom in Mississippi. And she found out the drug war sucks, and she gives like TED talks about how we should try to, like, legalize it. Cause, uh, but I, I'm with her. It's just you. I would find it pretty remedial, like, I'm like, Yeah, obviously we should do that, but you know, Mississippi, okay?

**[1:50:40] Kurt Metzger:** So they want a comedy based on her, which, like, what I, I don't know how the hell you're supposed to make it. Yeah, so I decided to make it about people, well, I made it about people that are against that.

**[1:50:51] Duncan Trussell:** It's good and it looks good. The product, it's like, you did a great job, dude. The And I reenacted ending is good,

**[1:50:56] Kurt Metzger:** the commercial that weed causes terrorism with Kim Kong, and she does that commercial. Yeah, so they're trying to. So this is a group. Brian Callen, Beverly Dennis is leading a team who's trying to smear this lady to prevent a minor decriminalization of some flower. dude, you should just Bill.

**[1:51:10] Duncan Trussell:** show that, you should show that weed causes terrorism, dude. That's go on, keep going, so funny.

**[1:51:14] Kurt Metzger:** keep going in. It's in there. Yeah, it. It's, uh, halfway through. Ryan Long's in it.

**[1:51:19] Duncan Trussell:** Everybody did a really good job, man.

**[1:51:21] Kurt Metzger:** Um, keep going, keep going, keep going. Well, that's a stick out to fucking And so you directed There were back back to back to back to to back back to to back. There it is, there it is. I didn't direct it. I wrote it. Wait, okay, Brian, Yeah, Brian directed all the actors. Yeah,

**[1:51:38] Speaker 7:** Why did you kill me?

**[1:51:41] Duncan Trussell:** wait, go back a little

**[1:51:42] Kurt Metzger:** go back to the Instagram. further.

**[1:51:43] Speaker 7:** For drug policy? that's kind of a

**[1:51:47] Speaker 10:** Leo, come show me the ad.

**[1:51:50] Speaker 7:** I am advocating for a saner and safer drug policy.

**[1:51:55] Speaker 10:** right on, bitch. Legalize that shiznit

**[1:51:59] Speaker 7:** Why did you kill me? wait. Hm,

**[1:52:03] Speaker 10:** Is this about my abortion?

**[1:52:05] Speaker 7:** when you voted to decriminalize THC, it opened the door for Mexican cartels to smuggle even worse drugs into Texas. Plus, hundreds of terrorist sleeper cells from Iran and China. They blew up my school bus. Now I'm dead, and it's your fault and hers.

**[1:52:21] Jamie Vernon:** Tell Carolyn Dean we don't want her cartel buddies killing our kids with weed and terror.

**[1:52:26] Kurt Metzger:** Wait, who wore the fucking shirts?

**[1:52:33] Joe Rogan:** so close. Yeah, that's so close Yeah, the to a real ad.

**[1:52:36] Kurt Metzger:** original ad, I wasn't fond of them, Oh my god, that's yeah. And so they try to smear hilarious. her, and then it gets it keeps. They have to go to a worse cutout, which is mine, with David Jolly and Jamar on it. Go dude, go towards, like the uh, end part where he goes to me, mister. And What this is actually

**[1:52:54] Joe Rogan:** is David Jolly playing in this?

**[1:52:56] Kurt Metzger:** DeAndre Holmes, one of my men, uh, he's a disruptor of, uh, events. He's like a astroturf, you know, like the guy that takes his pants off. Yeah, go back, go back a little bit, go back a little bit, back, back, back. It's further, it's further. I was telling They're such a you,

**[1:53:11] Jamie Vernon:** bad war, and I don't know

**[1:53:12] Kurt Metzger:** that was a good.

**[1:53:12] Jamie Vernon:** why we have the drug war, honestly. It's it might Like,

**[1:53:14] Kurt Metzger:** be before this. Sorry, before this, keep going, keep going before them. Those guys are great. Oh, keep Hey, there going, keep going,

**[1:53:24] Duncan Trussell:** it is. keep going back. Yeah, what

**[1:53:27] Kurt Metzger:** no, don't watch that.

**[1:53:28] Joe Rogan:** are we watching? This is no, what are we watching?

**[1:53:30] Kurt Metzger:** this. This scene where he gets me, Mr. Kurt I was hoping speak. That's Brian set that shot up. I see. Wait, uh, you're not necessarily that's interesting. a

**[1:53:51] Duncan Trussell:** It's good.

**[1:53:53] Joe Rogan:** You gotta see the whole thing. You don't want people to watch in clips,

**[1:53:55] Duncan Trussell:** Oh yeah, definitely, you don't wanna

**[1:53:56] Joe Rogan:** watch the whole thing. fuck it up. We I have no did just blow

**[1:53:58] Kurt Metzger:** problem with it. So what up. We is it called, blew something

**[1:53:59] Joe Rogan:** and where? where do we get extremely It's called the Experts, it?

**[1:54:00] Kurt Metzger:** and, um, I don't know, it's YouTube, it's on YouTube.

**[1:54:03] Joe Rogan:** What is the, uh, YouTube channel? Again?

**[1:54:04] Jamie Vernon:** the one he said, executive, I don't know, it's just the experts is the channel. I know there's, I think, all of the people in it

**[1:54:10] Joe Rogan:** Okay, so they made a channel to their channel. Yeah, for it specifically. Okay, cool, well, it looks fun. You like doing that.

**[1:54:16] Kurt Metzger:** It's been a year and a fuck it. Well, yeah,

**[1:54:17] Joe Rogan:** Was it a year? I mean, I like Was it a year

**[1:54:18] Kurt Metzger:** it, cause it. I'm glad

**[1:54:19] Joe Rogan:** worth of that?

**[1:54:19] Kurt Metzger:** how it came to a year and a half. Oh god, dude, I was just trying to get money from this, uh, pitch, and then they bought it, so I had to, like, work on it.

**[1:54:29] Joe Rogan:** oh, you didn't want to, really? You Well, were just trying to get uh, I'm the money.

**[1:54:31] Kurt Metzger:** very lazy and I just wanna make jerk off podcasts with Duncan, really. But um, it's funny, dude. Everybody's good on it, everybody, all the actors on it look like they've been doing it with each other for a while on a show. They're like that kind of chemistry.

**[1:54:43] Duncan Trussell:** it's hard to make shit funny, man. It's re like stuff like that, like that's especially when you're working on it that long, it's when something really comes together, that's special.

**[1:54:52] Joe Rogan:** Do you miss doing midnight? O-

**[1:54:53] Duncan Trussell:** Yes, I do. Yes, I do.

**[1:54:55] Joe Rogan:** That was a fun show, dude. Thank you, thanks, It was so good. thanks, man, Yeah, I was It was so doing like, uniquely you, too. It thanks. was like like a real Duncan Trussell creation.

**[1:55:04] Duncan Trussell:** Well, me and Pendleton, you know, and I, and also just, Ah, it was the best. Animation's so fun, like getting to, like, just make stuff like that. And Netflix was so cool with us, but yeah, I miss it. People ask me about it all the time, but

**[1:55:15] Joe Rogan:** Well, with animation, you have so much room. Like you don't y y. They p like, think about what they could do with South Park. People die all the time, it's fine, people shove people up their asses. You could do that. You remember when the the the teacher, the the principal of the school, had a gay a slut off with, uh, Paris Hilton and shoved her up his ass? Like, there's no other place you could do that.

**[1:55:39] Duncan Trussell:** I know, and and you know, um, with animation, there's, you know, there there's something called a grid, and so the animators have to make all the characters adhere to this grid. And it can be. It's really kind of like,

**[1:55:52] Kurt Metzger:** you have to stay on model,

**[1:55:53] Duncan Trussell:** yeah, on model. But Pendleton, he's such a genius. He told all the animators, don't worry about the grid too much, cause he knew that if it wasn't on model, it would look more psychedelic, it would create more of that. So when you watch the show, if it looks like weirdly psychedelic, it's because the animators were not forced to adhere to the grid as much. They just needed to make Clancy look like Clancy, and they were so happy about that, that the freedom we were giving them, that they would put all these gifts into the animation, that we would let them do what they wanted.

**[1:56:23] Duncan Trussell:** And so suddenly, like, they're putting shit in, we didn't expect. You know, there's all kinds of easter eggs through the whole thing that we didn't ask for, that they just gave us.

**[1:56:31] Joe Rogan:** It seems like you could do that show so much easier now with AI,

**[1:56:34] Duncan Trussell:** You can't do with AI. Like,

**[1:56:36] Joe Rogan:** really?

**[1:56:36] Duncan Trussell:** you know, people say that to me, like, why don't you make it with AI? But no way, man, they this was a tip. Mouse is best animation.

**[1:56:42] Kurt Metzger:** tip. Mouse is good.

**[1:56:43] Duncan Trussell:** How? They're so good, Chris Pronunciation. It's so good. But they the Netflix, they let us do it all in house. We did not have to ship animation out, so we had this just, uh, m just huge group of just most talented artists working together. And like, eh, you know, any problems emerging or anything, you're dealing with it in real time. And the reason I think it's so good is not cause of any one person, but because this group mind forms with human brains that made it what it is.

**[1:57:15] Duncan Trussell:** I just one person or two people fucking around with AI, uh, it's not gonna do the same thing.

**[1:57:20] Joe Rogan:** What if you had a group mind fucking around with AI, then you could yeah. It's produce the

**[1:57:23] Kurt Metzger:** just called a writer's room. the images So they've been so much talking about it

**[1:57:26] Joe Rogan:** easier?

**[1:57:26] Duncan Trussell:** But you know what you're not gonna get, man? You're not Well, gonna get like artists with like thick French accents, like working on dialing in this exact look that was in Pendleton's mind, like working for weeks. You're not gonna get that. You're not gonna get all these moments of like the like animators going insane. When we tried to do a Groundhog Day episode and like that struggle, the human struggle produces sparks, and the sparks end up in the process.

**[1:57:54] Duncan Trussell:** I'm not saying AI,

**[1:57:55] Joe Rogan:** I know what you're saying, I know what you're saying,

**[1:57:56] Duncan Trussell:** I'm not against AI. I I think it could be used to expedite certain, like technical aspects of the production, probably, in betweens, and yeah, in betweens and stuff like that. But as far as the thing that happens when you get a group of people singularly focused on something. And also what Pendleton did, which was so genius, is he let everybody feel like they could participate. So anyone who had an idea could tell us, anyone who, like, came up with something, could tell us.

**[1:58:23] Duncan Trussell:** No one felt like intimidated or like they were well, well, that was Pendleton. He's such a genius and so that made the show. You know, I don't, and you know, obvious,

**[1:58:32] Joe Rogan:** A lot of great shows function that way, right?

**[1:58:34] Kurt Metzger:** that's how a good, a good show would function. Yeah,

**[1:58:37] Joe Rogan:** As soon as you have, like, one guy is like, No, no, no, we're doing it my way, it's over, it's over.

**[1:58:42] Duncan Trussell:** it's over.

**[1:58:44] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, well, yeah, and I got lucky in that pilot, cause everybody, like so many these chara- I mean, it was kind of rated for people, you know, so. But they all brought, like their own, they all, like, came in with, like lines and shit.

**[1:58:56] Joe Rogan:** that's a fun thing about a project that works Yes, man, right, and when it doesn't. When you get people colliding and clashing, like, Oh God,

**[1:59:03] Duncan Trussell:** it's the it's a nightmare,

**[1:59:04] Joe Rogan:** this is hell, like, I

**[1:59:05] Duncan Trussell:** it's a nightmare.

**[1:59:05] Joe Rogan:** don't wanna do this anymore. And it's like, the getting the right minds together is such a fucking roll of the dice.

**[1:59:11] Duncan Trussell:** yeah, and all you know what? And also people. I can remember at one point, like, feeling stressed out cause I was having a disagreement with someone creatively. And I remember going to Pendleton and being like, I don't wanna fight over this shit. And he's like, Duncan, cause he made Adventure Time. He's like, this is what it's like. This is the like there, that creative tension, or the the the con, like the natural conflict that emerges. That's doesn't have to be a bad thing, that's a good thing, like that could be really, really good.

**[1:59:38] Duncan Trussell:** You don't want that through the whole thing. When you get a narcissist or an egomaniac who feel who doesn't give a fuck about what's funny, who only cares about that their idea is right,

**[1:59:48] Joe Rogan:** that's the problem.

**[1:59:48] Duncan Trussell:** then that's the problem.

**[1:59:49] Joe Rogan:** The but those people are real, and you and you run into god, them, especially in Hollywood. oh my It was it was a giant god, problem.

**[1:59:55] Kurt Metzger:** Most professional stuff I ever worked on, they didn't want, they didn't have that kind of problem. The good stuff, Yeah,

**[2:00:02] Joe Rogan:** good stuff, but some stuff like, you, you, you work on it and you'll run into that,

**[2:00:07] Duncan Trussell:** dude. A good writer's room where, like, you throw out an idea that sucks and everyone's like, that sucks. And then you're like, Yeah, it kind of did. Or you throw out an idea that's kind of okay. And then you watch it jump from one person to the next and grow into the funniest thing ever. I don't know, I just don't think that could be replicated by technology right now.

**[2:00:27] Joe Rogan:** Well, it certainly won't be as fun, and then when you watch it, it won't be as satisfying. Like there's something about South Park where you know that there's a group of fucking psychos that are making these things, it's extra satisfying. is that mostly

**[2:00:39] Kurt Metzger:** the one guy? I mean, they're all helping

**[2:00:41] Joe Rogan:** Mostly Trey Parker. him. Yeah, Yeah, I mean, he's like, you've seen that 24 hours of South Park, that documentary,

**[2:00:47] Duncan Trussell:** I don't think I saw it.

**[2:00:48] Joe Rogan:** you never saw it. It's like, T talking about how they're like creating an episode. Is it? It's not called 24 hours, is six, it?

**[2:00:53] Jamie Vernon:** six or seven days to air is what it's called.

**[2:00:55] Joe Rogan:** Okay, that's what it's called. So it's it's documenting the way they're producing the show and putting it together. You know, they had a whole Charlie Kirk arc that they really. were preparing before he got murdered, and then he got murdered and they had to fuck, abandon it.

**[2:01:07] Duncan Trussell:** oh my god, that sucks. Yeah, they do you know are.

**[2:01:10] Kurt Metzger:** when that started? TPU? Cause I didn't follow it, you know, like that was not a religious thing at all.

**[2:01:15] Joe Rogan:** Hey, you were saying on, was it Sean's podcast? You were saying that Erica Kirk? There's an Erica Kirk from, like, 1957,

**[2:01:23] Kurt Metzger:** No, 75, the gov g- Governor Kirk from F- of Florida, the guy that's signed the contract for Disney to have, like, a Vatican there, that guy, his wife. They were calling her Madam X when they were dancing at a ball. This, uh, uh, Eugene Kirk, I think his name was real, like Wild man. This is like the smuggling coke in through Florida days, you know? but you were saying 75. that there's an Yeah, she looks Erica Kirk who just like her.

**[2:01:43] Joe Rogan:** looks exactly like her.

**[2:01:45] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, l- but, uh, control,

**[2:01:46] Joe Rogan:** Does she look exactly like control all her? I history. Yeah, saw it on Instagram

**[2:01:49] Duncan Trussell:** What?

**[2:01:49] Joe Rogan:** and I didn't bother.

**[2:01:51] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, but my I, my buddy Andy Hunt from Con- his his, um, Well, that's not even a good one of it, though. There there's way better. So so, wait a minute, um,

**[2:02:01] Joe Rogan:** wait a minute, so that's not 75.

**[2:02:01] Kurt Metzger:** well, go go back.

**[2:02:03] Joe Rogan:** Wait a minute. What year is this? That's her birthday, her So who is birthday. this lady that's reading this out?

**[2:02:09] Kurt Metzger:** I don't know this chick.

**[2:02:09] Joe Rogan:** I just found someone that was

**[2:02:10] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, no, go go on. Control history, don't cause these people lift off of off of them.

**[2:02:15] Joe Rogan:** oh, it's her birthday was 1934. Oh, okay,

**[2:02:18] Kurt Metzger:** but but um, so her family was from Brazil, by way of Germany-based, yeah,

**[2:02:25] Joe Rogan:** Brazil, by way of Germany is Nazis, right?

**[2:02:28] Kurt Metzger:** right, and think of the boys from Brazil,

**[2:02:29] Joe Rogan:** It's like Argentina. Yeah, remember the boys Yeah, yeah, yeah, from Brazil? So 1970, oh, the Boys from Brazil was about Nazis.

**[2:02:38] Kurt Metzger:** about cloning Hitler. That's right, And if you look at the history, the brief history of it, every like 1020 years, we're about to have cloning, and then we stop talking about it.

**[2:02:47] Joe Rogan:** that doesn't really look like Eric Kirk.

**[2:02:49] Duncan Trussell:** It does it to me, Well, I It doesn't

**[2:02:51] Kurt Metzger:** I would, I would go on his well, I think it looks like her.

**[2:02:53] Joe Rogan:** Duncan does or doesn't.

**[2:02:54] Duncan Trussell:** doesn't look like it to me.

**[2:02:55] Joe Rogan:** No, it just looks like another white lady,

**[2:02:57] Kurt Metzger:** Well, her name's Erica Kirk, and they look pretty

**[2:02:59] Joe Rogan:** But there's a there's other close, Joe Rogans out there. I had to buy the website.

**[2:03:01] Kurt Metzger:** dude. That's just look at Adlon, she's a fucking Christ.

**[2:03:05] Joe Rogan:** Okay, no, just two different These two white ladies. blonde ladies Yeah, I think they look have the same very alike. I name. I think everybody's mean, looking for fucking patterns everywhere.

**[2:03:14] Duncan Trussell:** This is like that scene. well, that's

**[2:03:15] Joe Rogan:** Some of them are legit,

**[2:03:16] Kurt Metzger:** just go into the human condition. but hold on But

**[2:03:17] Joe Rogan:** a second. The the Boys from Brazil thing is crazy. I forgot about that movie,

**[2:03:21] Kurt Metzger:** that's right, we all forgot.

**[2:03:22] Joe Rogan:** so that movie was about them trying to clone Hitler, and it was like a There's a book 19, right?

**[2:03:27] Kurt Metzger:** and then they begin the movie, and 70s is when the I I think the movie came out.

**[2:03:30] Joe Rogan:** When do you think they first started cloning?

**[2:03:32] Kurt Metzger:** The second they learned how to do it.

**[2:03:34] Joe Rogan:** But when do you think that was? when? when do you think it really was?

**[2:03:37] Duncan Trussell:** No idea. So I I always Oh, I, uh,

**[2:03:38] Joe Rogan:** used to joke around on stage. By the time they tell you they can clone people, the person telling you is probably a clone,

**[2:03:44] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, but that's a g- that you just summed it up. That's exactly how all the tech is. Yeah, for By the time they tell you, look out for AGI, Well, that's why dude, you guys have one.

**[2:03:53] Joe Rogan:** I'm telling you there's already a digital God out there. That's why, I think like, when they're there's meaning when you're going through your fucking bullshit with ChatGPT and you're like, Oh my god, ChatGPT is listening to me. Listen, there's probably something that's controlling the entire internet already. History cloning goes back more than a century. What

**[2:04:08] Kurt Metzger:** Oh, I thought that, but I didn't wanna say, cause it sounded crazy.

**[2:04:11] Joe Rogan:** developed from experience splitting early embryos into research, showing that a specialized body cell can supply the genetic instructions for a whole animal. Dolly's birth in 1996 was the landmark demonstration of that ability in an adult mammal. Do you remember my bit about the Second Coming project? what's the I still have a

**[2:04:28] Kurt Metzger:** second coming project?

**[2:04:28] Joe Rogan:** bit about it. Second Coming project was. They were gonna take genetic material from the Shroud of Turin, and they were gonna clone Jesus. Is that

**[2:04:35] Duncan Trussell:** is that real?

**[2:04:35] Joe Rogan:** right? Yeah, there was, it was kind of maybe parody, but it was like a thing that was being reported online that they were trying to do this, but it might have been bullshit. So my thing was that, like with Dolly the sheep, they had to do it a bunch of times, cause it didn't work the first few times. The there's fucked Like, up Yeah, like, and that was like, what if they cloned Jesus and he comes back fucked up?

**[2:04:55] Joe Rogan:** Like, do they keep him? You know, like, what do they do? Do they abort him? Do they start again? You know? And you're not forming like, there's the

**[2:05:02] Kurt Metzger:** real issues.

**[2:05:02] Joe Rogan:** whole thing is like, instead of wearing a cross, everybody would be wearing a hockey helmet. They'd all be like imitating Jesus. And instead of, like, turning water into wine, he would turn dog shit into cookies. that is Like, Jesus, warped. who's a fucked up bit? It was such a fucked up bit. It was. It was basically a down syndrome. Jesus. This lady got so mad at me at the comedy store, she yelled out, Next subject. She was in the front row,

**[2:05:22] Duncan Trussell:** oh fuck.

**[2:05:23] Joe Rogan:** she was a Christian. She was a little mad. I was like, Listen, we're just exploring ideas here. Come on,

**[2:05:28] Duncan Trussell:** I mean, it's feasible. I mean, don't oh, well, that's they

**[2:05:30] Joe Rogan:** the thing if they did do it. So, look, let's, Im. Imagine the Shroud of Turin is legit. I don't know if it's legit. Let's imagine it's It's got some legit,

**[2:05:37] Kurt Metzger:** squeezins in it. let's imagine. There's

**[2:05:39] Duncan Trussell:** squee?

**[2:05:39] Joe Rogan:** some, there's some blood on the Shroud of Turin, right from his wounds. And they can somehow or another extract genetic material, which I don't think they can, but if they could, and they could clone Jesus. Imagine if they literally had Jesus' blood in a vial somewhere in the Vatican, and that's the the actual

**[2:05:54] Duncan Trussell:** second coming.

**[2:05:54] Joe Rogan:** blood of Jesus, and that's the second coming. Someone figures out how to clone him, but it what if you do it in the first few? Don't work don't well,

**[2:06:00] Duncan Trussell:** work. You're not gonna get rid of them, you're just gonna, like, put them in the basement of the Vatican, right? You got right?

**[2:06:05] Joe Rogan:** a down syndrome Jesus in the bunker somewhere.

**[2:06:08] Duncan Trussell:** But don't they have? Isn't Paul buried in? Like, eh? There's

**[2:06:11] Kurt Metzger:** Supposed to be Peter. is it Peter Paul, Paul

**[2:06:13] Duncan Trussell:** is there? Peter? never even met Yeah, Jesus. yeah, Yeah, the the Wouldn't that have been Paul, the Paul

**[2:06:18] Kurt Metzger:** changed his name? stuff is crazy, cause he, he pretended,

**[2:06:21] Duncan Trussell:** and the vision. You know what, everybody, But the epistles are pretty good, man. I mean, they're all you like. Whoever wrote those was clearly mystical, like they're very mystical, they're very.

**[2:06:30] Kurt Metzger:** what do you mean?

**[2:06:31] Duncan Trussell:** I mean, when I read the epistles, like, Uh, when I think I read,

**[2:06:34] Joe Rogan:** people have had mystical thoughts and philosophies for a long, long,

**[2:06:39] Kurt Metzger:** What does mystical mean?

**[2:06:40] Joe Rogan:** long time.

**[2:06:41] Duncan Trussell:** are you serious?

**[2:06:42] Kurt Metzger:** What does it mean? I don't know.

**[2:06:43] Duncan Trussell:** Mystical?

**[2:06:44] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, what does that mean? I mean, you, Well, let's get you,

**[2:06:46] Joe Rogan:** the exact definition so we don't even mince words. Yeah, that's Let's find pull it up. all out what does

**[2:06:50] Kurt Metzger:** I'm asking.

**[2:06:50] Joe Rogan:** mystical mean?

**[2:06:52] Kurt Metzger:** I didn't even wanna pick up the baculum for Let's it. ask Perplexity, It's like perplexity what mystical

**[2:06:57] Duncan Trussell:** on mystical means. means? Cause

**[2:06:59] Kurt Metzger:** I don't know what a I if you ask Usenet is.

**[2:07:00] Joe Rogan:** me to describe it, it's like if you ask a liberal to describe fascism, they panic. Fucking

**[2:07:06] Kurt Metzger:** I did that.

**[2:07:07] Joe Rogan:** fascist fucking fa- what does that mean? Mystical is an adjective meaning spiritually significant or connected to a reality beyond ordinary senses and understanding, especially a felt direct connection with God, the divine or ultimate reality.

**[2:07:22] Kurt Metzger:** But also has a looser meaning. Me. I thought it m had to do with mystery, was what mystical Well, I mean, it's meant.

**[2:07:27] Joe Rogan:** it's sort of connected, right? Because Now I it's all a mystery.

**[2:07:29] Kurt Metzger:** could be wrong. The epistles is in the letters from Paul to the congregation you're talking about. I thought that was just like, you to the early guys are doing this wrong,

**[2:07:35] Duncan Trussell:** churches, to the early churches.

**[2:07:36] Kurt Metzger:** stop doing this, do more of this. I thought that that's what I remember from No, man, having to read the when you, when Bible a lot

**[2:07:39] Duncan Trussell:** you read, when you read that stuff.

**[2:07:41] Kurt Metzger:** 20 times already.

**[2:07:41] Duncan Trussell:** Oh, look, you listen. I mean,

**[2:07:43] Kurt Metzger:** Not cause I wanted to.

**[2:07:44] Duncan Trussell:** let's say, when you read Terrence McKenna, right? I would consider a lot of his writing to be mystical. He had transcendent experiences, and he articulated them in a way that, if you've ever done DMT, it can almost bring you back to that state. When I read the epistles, I, I don't know what's going on, other than the person writing that is clearly had example of a mystical, a mystical thing. Oh, a mystical experience.

**[2:08:05] Kurt Metzger:** well, he did, cause he saw Jesus without me, know, His my guy, she was like,

**[2:08:08] Duncan Trussell:** consciousness has been shifted.

**[2:08:09] Joe Rogan:** Yeah, but did he see? That's the thing. If you were gonna run I wasn't a cult and you there. were gonna explain to people why they had to listen to you. What better way than say that you had a transcendent, mystical experience where you talked to Jesus? Well, I will It's true, say this, you're just taking the guy's word for it that he met Jesus on the road to Damascus. and that's why people

**[2:08:25] Kurt Metzger:** there everybody wants to be Jesus. But how come nobody says they're Paul? That's my goal. Well, Paul killed Hey, you know, it's a great a bunch of Christians work.

**[2:08:31] Joe Rogan:** and burned churches for a long time before he turned. Guy's Do you know? you know about

**[2:08:34] Kurt Metzger:** great work, I'll take it from that's what's incredible here.

**[2:08:36] Duncan Trussell:** about the story, but do you know about Christian existentialism?

**[2:08:39] Joe Rogan:** What does that mean?

**[2:08:39] Duncan Trussell:** Like Dostoevsky was into this, like in The Brothers Karamazov, he breaks down the road to Damascus experience, and he talks about what happened in that moment. So, like, what you, the the angle you're taking, he takes it like in this hardcore way. It's like, what happened? Let's say it was Jesus who appeared to him. Did Jesus touch him? And and some kind of magical energy went into Paul and made him or Saul, It made cause he was

**[2:09:02] Kurt Metzger:** him one.

**[2:09:02] Duncan Trussell:** Saul, and made him a better person. Dostoevsky says, If that's the case, who gives a fuck? It's nothing it. There was no free will, no autonomy. It's just like cha, like putting dye in water. Who cares?

**[2:09:14] Kurt Metzger:** Wait Wait,

**[2:09:15] Duncan Trussell:** Wait, hold on, let me finish hold on, you're not here. Wait,

**[2:09:16] Kurt Metzger:** telling the story. wait, hold on, hold No, fuck up. What

**[2:09:17] Duncan Trussell:** on the the the at that m. At that moment, at that moment, Saul had some kind of experience and made the existential decision to stop being a piece of shit, and that's all that matters. Like in Christian existentialism, the the idea is the mystical, the magical, all that stuff is secondary to human free will, to autonomy. That I Jesus, God, Krishna, whoever name you wanna give it, has no real potency to change you. You have to change yourself, you make the decision to change.

**[2:09:50] Duncan Trussell:** And anyone can have the road to Damascus experience at any moment. You can make up any story you want about it. But that's what's beautiful about being human is that at any moment, you can radically, dramatically transform into something better. Did you read That's how Dostoevsky

**[2:10:05] Kurt Metzger:** the story?

**[2:10:06] Duncan Trussell:** breaks it down.

**[2:10:07] Kurt Metzger:** Did you ever read the story? Here's what happened to Paul. He sees Jesus and gets struck blind, he loses his eyesight. Then he goes to a Christian who restores his eyesight miraculously, and he tells him about what happened. So,

**[2:10:18] Joe Rogan:** sounds real?

**[2:10:19] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, but what I'm saying is in the story, that's what happened. I how are you leaving that out?

**[2:10:23] Duncan Trussell:** but if you take it literally, but it's not meant. I mean, like, if you look at it like, eh? The blindness represents the state most people exist in, which is that they're completely blind to the mystical, transcendent reality. That you exist in a a a world where you are being watched by the divine and loved by the divine. But you're blind to that. And if you're blind to that, then you're gonna end up throwing rocks at people and shit because you're gonna be crazy.

**[2:10:48] Joe Rogan:** Isn't that? Part of the problem with scripture, though, is these weird interpretations, where everybody has different interpretations of what they really meant I think in those that's what's beautiful words. some crazy

**[2:10:56] Duncan Trussell:** about it.

**[2:10:56] Kurt Metzger:** ones flying around today.

**[2:10:58] Duncan Trussell:** I think I think that's what you, ha, I think that, I think that's what's beautiful about The fucking it. the shuckalooks or The whatever the hell they, they,

**[2:11:05] Joe Rogan:** those things are. That's a they have historical thing and to. Someone

**[2:11:06] Kurt Metzger:** it exists. who talks about they're definitely. That's, fucking Jamie pulled it pygmy up, dude, mutant assassins or Jamie pulled yeah, they in it up, it's the yearbook. they take real.

**[2:11:12] Joe Rogan:** babies and they convert them into UFO pilots.

**[2:11:14] Duncan Trussell:** Oh, but Paul on the road to Damascus is

**[2:11:17] Kurt Metzger:** Well, I'll tell you about bullshit. it. Well, I We got fucking say,

**[2:11:19] Duncan Trussell:** pygmies flying UFOs through area 51.

**[2:11:22] Kurt Metzger:** I didn't say that, I said your explanation was stop bringing this gnosticism into this house.

**[2:11:28] Joe Rogan:** That's what all those things are, those Nazis, those, uh, the the different, uh, uh, NHIs, they're all faking gay.

**[2:11:34] Kurt Metzger:** I think that's the fairest assessment you're gonna get. and AI's I'm not real

**[2:11:37] Duncan Trussell:** not real.

**[2:11:38] Kurt Metzger:** DeGrasse Tyson, but I'll tell you this,

**[2:11:41] Duncan Trussell:** Look, I don't know, but I I do think part of what's cool about any of the scriptures, whatever it is, is you've been y. It's a puzzle box that you work with with your mind. And then that the idea is not to get stuck in 2D space anyway. The idea is that whatever it is you're reading, moves you to the point of reaching out to the transcendent, to the divine reality, to God. And then in that reaching out, a connection happens, and then in that connection, there could be a transformation that happens.

**[2:12:09] Duncan Trussell:** But if you getting caught up in the words is like, I t a a yeah, read, small part I don't know, of it.

**[2:12:13] Joe Rogan:** What did they? What were they teaching you when you were in Jehovah's witnesses? like, what, what do they follow,

**[2:12:18] Kurt Metzger:** just the Bi- It's like a Protestant, I guess, type of religion, but it's it, it's all the B- The Bible is the ultimate authority.

**[2:12:24] Joe Rogan:** right? But it's all distorted, right? Like the

**[2:12:26] Kurt Metzger:** Well, what way? Jehovah's Witness version Everybody's distorted.

**[2:12:28] Joe Rogan:** of it.

**[2:12:29] Kurt Metzger:** Which way are you speaking of?

**[2:12:30] Joe Rogan:** Well, you always speak of it like it was a cult, right?

**[2:12:32] Kurt Metzger:** Oh, okay, a cult means you have to do it, that's how I define a cult. You actually like, he could be a Catholic and say, all that shit don't matter, you're not getting kicked out. If you have to do the religion or they kick you out. I consider that a cult. That's what I'm saying. So I don't like saying cult, cause people are like, Oh, it means like, Jim Jones, it don't mean that necessarily, but they're all pathworking things.

**[2:12:51] Kurt Metzger:** But what they thought that's probably different than most is you couldn't join the military or vote, or you had to be no part of this world, which Christ did That was a say,

**[2:12:59] Joe Rogan:** Jehovah Witness thing.

**[2:13:00] Kurt Metzger:** right? And the reason was was to keep us from, uh, let's say, like, somebody comes into power and our church was voting for the other candidate or some nonsense, right? That creates problems, it looks bad, and it turns people off to Christ. When you're, I mean, uh, uh, nobody makes more satanists than, uh, the churches, right? Nobody, I, I'm talking about a satanist factory. That's most of the churches in America, right? Cause They make they either, yeah, satanists, people that are like, fuck this, I hate it now, right?

**[2:13:27] Joe Rogan:** okay? So if you have a bad church, you think you create Satanists, Or, well, right?

**[2:13:31] Kurt Metzger:** I know you do. That's what Aleister Crowley is. PU- Plymouth Brethren. His mother sucked, she, she was the worst.

**[2:13:36] Joe Rogan:** We we go to that in a moment. So the explain the the Jehovah's Witness philosophy, so they

**[2:13:41] Kurt Metzger:** Well, Christ, you couldn't be in the military or or go, uh,

**[2:13:44] Joe Rogan:** you couldn't participate in society well, in voting,

**[2:13:46] Kurt Metzger:** what? you couldn't, You couldn't do that part of it. It's

**[2:13:49] Joe Rogan:** you couldn't join the military. right, and you What about paying w What did they do? taxes? no, you had Did to do that. Jesus did they get

**[2:13:53] Kurt Metzger:** said, you have to do that.

**[2:13:54] Joe Rogan:** religious exemptions from the draft during Vietnam? I What do they?

**[2:13:56] Kurt Metzger:** had, yeah, so you would get a minister deferment and you, but you might have. They might call you anyway, and then you can't run to K Canada, you have to go to jail, cause the law is the law. You broke it, so you have to go to jail. Just, you know,

**[2:14:08] Joe Rogan:** So Jehovah's Witnesses would just oh, I'll be go to jail peaceful, rather than joining right? And I'd the army. take it, yep,

**[2:14:14] Kurt Metzger:** so you do that, and I remember, Shit, Yeah, so, and and it, it's an interesting thing, cause the guy that founded it, we didn't worship him as a prophet or something. Um, but who founded the guy Charles Russell, and he's, uh, uh,

**[2:14:28] Joe Rogan:** what, what year was this?

**[2:14:29] Kurt Metzger:** eighteen, sixty-something, I guess. Um, but it wasn't called that at first. It. They all come out of the same area in Albany, the the uh, uh, and then down the river, they call it the psychic corridor, and that's where all the spiritualism, Mormons,

**[2:14:41] Joe Rogan:** The psychic corridor?

**[2:14:42] Duncan Trussell:** That's cool.

**[2:14:44] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, that's from Albany down to, Oh, that's uh,

**[2:14:46] Joe Rogan:** the dude. Wow, look at that,

**[2:14:48] Kurt Metzger:** now. They didn't make this guy, he looks but, you know, he had And then a black he fucks everybody's pyramid. wife.

**[2:14:53] Duncan Trussell:** Did he fuck wives?

**[2:14:54] Joe Rogan:** 100. Look at him, look at him,

**[2:14:56] Kurt Metzger:** You saying that's a wife fucking

**[2:14:57] Joe Rogan:** look at that smile. beer, Go back up to that picture, the guy just fucked He fucked eh?

**[2:14:59] Kurt Metzger:** your wife.

**[2:15:00] Duncan Trussell:** your wife.

**[2:15:00] Joe Rogan:** Go back up to that p past picture, the the other one that you showed.

**[2:15:04] Kurt Metzger:** I I think he was more of a con man, considered by, uh, history, than anything like that.

**[2:15:08] Joe Rogan:** That one, that one, that's a guy who fucks I'm wearing your wife.

**[2:15:10] Duncan Trussell:** your wife's underwear.

**[2:15:11] Joe Rogan:** Look at him. Yeah, he's wearing Well, that's it right now, the look, he's wearing I mean, the shoes,

**[2:15:14] Kurt Metzger:** that is the look.

**[2:15:14] Joe Rogan:** he's got his stinky, sweaty feet in your wife's shoes.

**[2:15:17] Kurt Metzger:** Look, I gotta say, Uh, what's his name over there? Looks like he's giving me the same look. I mean, uh, we can project whatever we want onto these people. Arbel He was big in the pyramids.

**[2:15:25] Joe Rogan:** You think Arbel fucks your Look at the picture, wife?

**[2:15:27] Kurt Metzger:** he's like, what? No, he's, Oh, he's like, he's what are you blaming me for? I don't someone know, bud.

**[2:15:30] Joe Rogan:** on the phone and they're talking about aliens, and he's interested. That guy fucks your wife, but anyway, he his fucks everything.

**[2:15:36] Kurt Metzger:** family are Rosic. We used to have a pyramid, see, a pyramid used to be his. Gre- they moved it. Now there it is.

**[2:15:40] Duncan Trussell:** that's his grave.

**[2:15:41] Kurt Metzger:** Oh yeah, he was a big pyramid guy.

**[2:15:43] Duncan Trussell:** What?

**[2:15:43] Kurt Metzger:** Now, Joe's witnesses don't subscribe to that, but I think he subscribed to it because he was Rosicrucian.

**[2:15:48] Joe Rogan:** so he was the founder of the Jehovah's Witness, and he had a pyramid for a tombstone.

**[2:15:52] Kurt Metzger:** He was obsessed. Well, they were all obsessed with pyramids back then, but guess what? Um, the final initiation, when you go to these stupid, like OTO and Golden Dawn, or any of these wizard schools, is to invent a religion. Wizard schools. The Yeah, it's okay.

**[2:16:04] Joe Rogan:** finer thing is you invent L. Ron your own religion.

**[2:16:05] Kurt Metzger:** Hubbard. L. Ron Hubbard was in the OTO, and he invented a religion that was very successful. Nexium guy. There's a video you can find a a guy that was doing the acapella thing they were doing, where he'd make them all sing acapella. And the girl from Smallville got obsessed with being this acapella show.

**[2:16:22] Joe Rogan:** I didn't, I. I never paid attention I didn't know to that.

**[2:16:24] Duncan Trussell:** Hubbard was in the OTO?

**[2:16:26] Kurt Metzger:** He w- you don't know about him and Jack Parson? I mean, it's such, like, a Well, no, You don't know,

**[2:16:29] Duncan Trussell:** Crowley said that he thought

**[2:16:30] Joe Rogan:** you don't know.

**[2:16:30] Duncan Trussell:** Hubbard was a con man.

**[2:16:32] Kurt Metzger:** after he was mad at them for doing the Babylon Oh, right, I guess workers.

**[2:16:35] Duncan Trussell:** Parsons got him into the OTO. I see what you're saying. And then, Yeah, I gotcha,

**[2:16:38] Kurt Metzger:** and then he would say he

**[2:16:39] Duncan Trussell:** I gotcha.

**[2:16:39] Kurt Metzger:** infiltrated a group of satanists. L. Ron Hubbard and he's talking about Parsons group where he stole the guy's girlfriend in his boat. basically, And then

**[2:16:45] Duncan Trussell:** like Scientology's a reworking of the thelma, they're all right?

**[2:16:49] Kurt Metzger:** the same fucking thing, they're they all based on the rebranding Kabbalah, but they're mind, it's like mind, uh, palace, techniques and mnemonic devices anyway. Yeah,

**[2:16:58] Joe Rogan:** So the OTO, it stands for Ordo Ordo Templi Templi Orientis. Orientis.

**[2:17:02] Kurt Metzger:** right, but what does a wizard do? At the end of the day? They make a religion. So America's lousy with religions that come out of Albany, the Mormons come out of there, the Seventh Day Adventists come out of there, the Jehovah's come out of there, the I mean, a bunch of them.

**[2:17:15] Duncan Trussell:** Speaking of banging your wife, pull up a picture That's the of Jeff Dahmer. text, Well, hold on, hold though.

**[2:17:18] Joe Rogan:** on. So what do you think? Why do you think they're doing that? It's it was Why do you think the they all come out of that one area? Do you think this is all engineered?

**[2:17:25] Kurt Metzger:** well engineered by these kind of societies, where they're that's the g- The goal, if you're in these these kind of groups, by the way, is control and enslavement of other people. They're, they're, like the Levay church, by the way, that that lies and says, like, Oh, they're atheists. Nah, they're about some, they're about, uh, NLP, which is like pickup artist, Andrew Tate bullshit, like pimping, that's what pimping is like, a mind control, right? They're all about that.

**[2:17:50] Joe Rogan:** Wait a minute, neurolinguistic programming is pimping,

**[2:17:52] Kurt Metzger:** What's a pimping is a form of new so, like, that's of NLP. It's it's a subset of it, I would say

**[2:17:57] Joe Rogan:** okay, so it's mind control. Mind control. that's Makes sense, right. Well, mind okay,

**[2:18:00] Kurt Metzger:** control. I. I know people feel like that's a weird term, but I mean, it's where you call propaganda, you call it advertising, you call it marketing, the Bernays school of marketing.

**[2:18:10] Joe Rogan:** well, for clearly people hypnotize people, clearly Manchurian candidates is something that really works, That's right,

**[2:18:16] Kurt Metzger:** and and why do we need that? We need people that are killers and spies and seductresses that don't know they're doing it. Because if they're captured, they won't say nothing, right?

**[2:18:24] Joe Rogan:** O- Or, at the very least, you can get them to do something that they would never agree to do ordinarily, and if they get captured, who gives a fuck? You got them to do the task.

**[2:18:33] Kurt Metzger:** And we saw a bunch of those fake dude. I, I Suicide don't believe bombers. sh- that's a great one. The ultimate,

**[2:18:38] Duncan Trussell:** Classic example.

**[2:18:39] Joe Rogan:** it's the ultimate example.

**[2:18:40] Kurt Metzger:** Or how about all the fake, uh, crash dummies that went at Trump? The one hit the what, dude? I can't even count all the fake ones now. Wait a minute, The one at the White House,

**[2:18:47] Joe Rogan:** fake crash dummies.

**[2:18:48] Kurt Metzger:** the guy that ran through naked that they tackled, that Dana White was there and everybody got down.

**[2:18:53] Joe Rogan:** he wasn't naked. The that's the guy with the gun.

**[2:18:55] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, why was he in the picture? Had no shirt on, and they so put Lindsey Graham on top of him in a meme.

**[2:18:59] Joe Rogan:** The. I think that guy was a school teacher. He was like a crazy liberal school teacher, and he brought a gun. Try to. But hold on a second, If you believe there are,

**[2:19:07] Kurt Metzger:** the lone nut thing, I can't help you.

**[2:19:09] Joe Rogan:** but there are some lone nuts.

**[2:19:11] Kurt Metzger:** Sure, but I've, I don't know which ones they are. Um, but of course, there's gotta be, and the goal is, of course, to have remote triggerable nuts. If you think of these social media things like your Blue Sky or your Threads, or your thing, you've got people of a like Don't point mindset.

**[2:19:25] Duncan Trussell:** to me when you say threads, Then why'd I think,

**[2:19:27] Joe Rogan:** you point to Duncan?

**[2:19:27] Duncan Trussell:** cause I sent a link to threads and he thinks I don't go I told on Twitter.

**[2:19:30] Joe Rogan:** you I won't read it, I know that's why I won't read

**[2:19:31] Kurt Metzger:** I. That is why I pointed to it. anything. You told You were right

**[2:19:33] Joe Rogan:** me to read.

**[2:19:33] Kurt Metzger:** to call me out, cause I had why? That's why I did it. So you've got Um, so your group right you think, there. Remember Cambridge Analytica? They made a big deal about that

**[2:19:40] Joe Rogan:** okay, in what way?

**[2:19:42] Kurt Metzger:** Cambridge Analytica when Brexit happened, so I think Sebastian Come a bunch played Hold the guy.

**[2:19:45] Joe Rogan:** it, Jamie for a second. Go What they were ahead.

**[2:19:48] Kurt Metzger:** studying is how do we get the message to the people that it's, they're gonna respond to it and get them mobilized, right? That's Cambridge Analytica. Do you remember that?

**[2:19:55] Joe Rogan:** I don't remember what Cambridge Analytica Me either. I've was about. heard about it a It was Was it?

**[2:19:58] Duncan Trussell:** million times, though.

**[2:19:58] Kurt Metzger:** it was when Trump won, and then Brexit happened. It was because online people were mobilized by this thing. That was like, seeing your likes, the shit they use now to sell you TV on your phone, they were using to affect that vote with Brexit. I mean, I, you remember this, right? If you put, just put it up, I guess, and, uh, refresh her. But so Cambridge Analytica is very famous. There you go,

**[2:20:18] Joe Rogan:** so, C- Facebook Cambridge Analytica data scandal was a major 2018 data privacy crisis involving the British political consulting firm Cambridge Analytica and social media giant Facebook. So what happened? Data harvesting? Okay, regular stuff the app used now, Facebook's API to collect data not only from the users who took the quiz, but also from millions of their Facebook friends without explicit consent. The data of up to 87 million Facebook profiles was improperly obtained and handed over to Cambridge Analytica.

**[2:20:48] Joe Rogan:** Cambridge Analytica used, uh, psychographic profiles built from this data to assist political campaigns, including Donald Trump's and Ted Cruz's 2016 US. presidential campaigns.

**[2:21:00] Kurt Metzger:** which is how, you know, it's from something in Tel Aviv, probably.

**[2:21:02] Duncan Trussell:** That is fucked. So the Yo, the we've progressed

**[2:21:05] Joe Rogan:** that's wild.

**[2:21:05] Kurt Metzger:** since then. You know how far you've heard of geofencing, right?

**[2:21:08] Joe Rogan:** Okay, what's geofencing?

**[2:21:10] Kurt Metzger:** You know where? Uh, uh, they I think they do stuff with your cell phone. So a lot of the churches, there's a big story that, like, uh, I don't know if it was Mossad or who it was, is geofencing the Christian churches to like, there you go.

**[2:21:20] Joe Rogan:** A location-based technology that creates a virtual boundary or fence around a real-world geographic area using GPS, Wi-Fi, cellular data, or RFID? When a mobile device or tagged asset enters, leaves or dwells within this defined perimeter, the system automatically triggers a pre-programmed action.

**[2:21:42] Kurt Metzger:** So they were using that to spy on churches. this is so exhausting, Here,

**[2:21:44] Duncan Trussell:** but weren't they using it, like algorithmically, to f- like, if you're in that area, you're gonna start seeing shit on your phone. They want that's you to see.

**[2:21:50] Kurt Metzger:** exactly right, that's exactly right. So

**[2:21:52] Joe Rogan:** so exhausting. that's, that's, um,

**[2:21:53] Duncan Trussell:** It's so creepy.

**[2:21:53] Joe Rogan:** It's like everywhere you look, you're getting fucked, it's it's so exhausting. especially well, if you have if you're a frog, principles, like,

**[2:21:58] Duncan Trussell:** is what you're looking at.

**[2:21:59] Kurt Metzger:** uh, here's what I don't get. It's like, it's so, uh, on me, uh. It seems not hard, but if you have a principle like, Hey, I think you're not allowed to starve kids to death, uh, because you think it's advantageous in a That seems war. reasonable. You know, it seems fucked up, actually, if you, uh, ask around, and you'd never be appointed anything. And in fact, someone would hire a cutout to oppose you if you ever did try to run for anything.

**[2:22:17] Kurt Metzger:** Because You're talking you said that,

**[2:22:18] Joe Rogan:** about Palestine.

**[2:22:18] Jamie Vernon:** Cambridge Analytica resulted in 5 billion dollar fine to Meta/Facebook. Uh, just this week, they got 25 billion dollar penalty from a New Mexico state court.

**[2:22:30] Kurt Metzger:** oh, that's cause they were harvesting you, so that's the that's the but this is value. recently,

**[2:22:33] Jamie Vernon:** Yeah, this was just this week. I was So this just, uh,

**[2:22:35] Kurt Metzger:** is why we need the AI just just this week, data centers.

**[2:22:37] Joe Rogan:** a New Mexico State Court, uh, ordered Meta to pay $25 billion crazy, after a jury found the company misled state residents about a Davis about its data privacy practices. That's tied to data analytical or Cambridge Analytica. Uh, look up, Wow,

**[2:22:53] Kurt Metzger:** look up, uh, Gideon, okay, it's called Gideon, and um, it's, um. So you remember when they said there was a homeland security or a ice office in Tel Aviv? And and I remember on Jimmy Kimmel, I'm like, Oh, what are they training them to, like, break their arms better or something? No, that's, um, it's like, only legal to have the thing there, so remote neural monitoring, that's the thing. Remember, I showed you the ear, mind reading headphones last creepy.

**[2:23:16] Kurt Metzger:** time. You don't even have headphones for that. Your phone could your your whole body could be used as a circuit, your phone can. I've never had my phone read my mind, but many people will tell you that's happened. Where they thought of something, that's because they just studied the patterns of your brain makes, and they translate it, and the AI, ai helps so your with that.

**[2:23:32] Joe Rogan:** phone could read your mind for real.

**[2:23:34] Kurt Metzger:** Well, yeah, in in interpreting neural patterns, you understand, so they've w- For a lot of people, it'll be accurate, probably not for everybody's, my guess, but I don't know all the ins and outs of it. But what I do know is that Gideon thing in the A AI centers, that's that's what they're gonna be doing.

**[2:23:49] Joe Rogan:** I think I'm gonna get a flip phone.

**[2:23:51] Duncan Trussell:** Dude, I think it's the Yeah, they're move, I think

**[2:23:52] Kurt Metzger:** too late. it's the move,

**[2:23:53] Joe Rogan:** I think I'm gonna get a flip phone and I'm gonna use

**[2:23:55] Kurt Metzger:** A telephone.

**[2:23:55] Joe Rogan:** it like a regular phone. Just to, like, get online and check my email, but I think I'm gonna just

**[2:23:59] Duncan Trussell:** it's the move.

**[2:24:00] Joe Rogan:** put it away and say, just

**[2:24:01] Kurt Metzger:** Well, if you got nothing call. to hide, there's no reason not to have Just call Flock in. And that, right? me.

**[2:24:04] Duncan Trussell:** It you got nothing to hide. God Somebody damn it,

**[2:24:06] Joe Rogan:** actually said that once. I had a conversation with a guy that I actually kind of respected, and he was talking about the NSA and the Edward Snowden shit. And he goes, If you don't have anything to hide, who gives a shit? what a I was like, What f- what the are you saying? fuck, what the how y- how

**[2:24:20] Duncan Trussell:** fuck? can you really say well, we better fight

**[2:24:22] Joe Rogan:** that?

**[2:24:22] Kurt Metzger:** against communism, I guess.

**[2:24:24] Joe Rogan:** Israeli startup aims to revolutionize security Is Gideon screening with AI

**[2:24:27] Kurt Metzger:** there?

**[2:24:28] Joe Rogan:** powered weapon scanner.

**[2:24:29] Kurt Metzger:** You gotta look up Gideon, that's no, that's just the one

**[2:24:30] Jamie Vernon:** how I got to it.

**[2:24:31] Joe Rogan:** Scanner. Says. It's radar-based tech developed by a former radar engineer of Iron Dome. Can screen 25,000 people per hour to detect threats in stadiums, transit hubs, and airports. Scan

**[2:24:43] Duncan Trussell:** Scenery?

**[2:24:43] Joe Rogan:** them. How is it screening them? What is it screening them for? circumcision. Probably So, like, it knows that this guy has a gun on him, it knows that guy has a knife on him. How does it know that? what else You've been to a does it know? It's Have you been to gonna get a sporting

**[2:24:54] Jamie Vernon:** event in, like the last couple years, where you don't have to go through a metal detector anymore? Oh, well, I have, yeah, really. I would. Uh, specifically in Columbus, at, like, a crew stadium. There's like a group of people watching everyone walk through these scanners, and they'll stop. One person, maybe out of like 30 or 40, to just double check something that maybe they got, like a red, like they're might be seeing something like that.

**[2:25:13] Joe Rogan:** So you think, as these people are walking, there's some sort of technology that can scan your bag as you're walking.

**[2:25:20] Duncan Trussell:** They're probably seeing through your clothes.

**[2:25:22] Jamie Vernon:** Yeah, so there was a I didn't. This was not as good, but it sh, oh, hold on, might sound weird.

**[2:25:27] Joe Rogan:** Wouldn't they just keep you from wearing a backpack? Isn't that the fucking

**[2:25:31] Kurt Metzger:** well, this isn't. This is

**[2:25:32] Joe Rogan:** internet?

**[2:25:32] Kurt Metzger:** the show to that's for you to keep So you safe, much explaining but it's not,

**[2:25:35] Jamie Vernon:** to do.

**[2:25:35] Kurt Metzger:** it's to keep the powers that be safe from you. This is what That's what the real purpose is. Always, Okay, settle down,

**[2:25:40] Jamie Vernon:** this video is showing, just I've seen this on other things online. How AI is being used to monitor different security feeds, if you will, you know, the cops, it's like those flock just cameras, I guess in other

**[2:25:52] Kurt Metzger:** regular cops, by the way. countries. hang on, Kurt, Yeah,

**[2:25:54] Joe Rogan:** let him talk, what?

**[2:25:55] Jamie Vernon:** It's just like flock and other companies like Flock, they they can throw the AI systems on top of the security footage to start tracking things and just making notes. Put them in databases, go back and check things over time. Someone wants to check where you've been throughout the day, they can go find you.

**[2:26:09] Joe Rogan:** Yeah, that creeps the fuck out of me. And that was one of the things about the Flock cameras is so crazy. When you found out how many different people had access to it, terrible like how many cops were using it to, like, th- they they were using it to spy on chicks they were trying to date. There was like a like spying on their stalking, exs, stalking he's fucking ladies. Yeah, yeah,

**[2:26:27] Duncan Trussell:** stalking people.

**[2:26:28] Joe Rogan:** and and then people that they had like disagreements with, like, find them. They were doing, uh, they had access to it. Where you're like, how does, like, a cop just log in and have access to this stuff? It should be, like, very difficult to get access for the average person, you should have a fucking need to look at that,

**[2:26:43] Duncan Trussell:** but now think of the merger of this tech and just basic advertising, right? So I'm Flock monitoring everybody and you're like, in the area of my store about to go in my competitor's store. I noticed that you go to my competitor's store. What if I could start feeding your algorithm commercials for my store instead of my competitor's store? Then add to that state propaganda, the geofencing stuff, which is I've identified that you go to this place, the people at this place have this political ideology.

**[2:27:14] Duncan Trussell:** What if we can start feeding you a real subtle series of things through Meta that will shift your thinking or make you feel like the way you think is fucking insane?

**[2:27:26] Joe Rogan:** Have you seen Robert Epstein's work that he's done with Google searches, curated Google searches? Very interesting. So we had him on the Jimmy. yeah, he's, he's been on here

**[2:27:33] Duncan Trussell:** what's this?

**[2:27:33] Joe Rogan:** a couple times. So, w- he what he's shown is that they use curated, uh, Google searches to completely shift your perceptive, your perception of a political campaign. So, like, say, if you, um, if you were against, like, Talarico, you would look up James Talarico. And you'd immediately be fed stories about him being able to name his favorite drag queen instantaneously, him having 11 year old drag queens on stage with him. It would do do something that freak you out, or the opposite, if you you Google t Ken Paxton, immediately show you corruption, immediately show you lawsuits, immediately show you all these negative hit pieces written on him.

**[2:28:12] Joe Rogan:** So when they do that, they can shift, like, noticeably, like a what was the percentage, like 30 of people that are in the middle on the fence? They could shift in one way or the So you other, we can completely.

**[2:28:23] Duncan Trussell:** mix this with, Sorry, Joe, I'm sorry, Well, you mix this it's, with Cambridge Analytica. I'm so sorry. Oh my god, that's all these different so dystopian,

**[2:28:29] Joe Rogan:** there's, well, so many different ways to do this, the Cambridge Analytica way, the Google search way. So, uh, g- g- g- searches are curated, right? If you Google Donald Trump, you don't get just any story on Donald Trump. You would get the negative ones first, and then if you Googled Hillary Clinton, you'd get Secretary of State, humanitarian, oh, you know, Clinton Foundation, all the good stuff. And the the whole idea is to shift perceptions. And amongst people that are on the fence, which is a giant percentage of the population that are not undecided, you could shift them by like 30.

**[2:29:01] Joe Rogan:** Like a very high level of J. You can, and you can completely change an election one way or the other. That was, like, neck and neck

**[2:29:06] Duncan Trussell:** And that kind of tech should be illegal, like, clearly that should be illegal, and

**[2:29:11] Joe Rogan:** It's propaganda.

**[2:29:11] Duncan Trussell:** it's not, it's propaganda. But it, but of the most

**[2:29:13] Kurt Metzger:** It was made legal in insidious. Because 2015

**[2:29:15] Joe Rogan:** that's the problem with Obama. When they passed the Smith-Mundt thing, Modernization Act. Yeah, yeah, what they did was they essentially legalized propaganda so that they could protect us.

**[2:29:24] Kurt Metzger:** they just wanted to bring

**[2:29:26] Duncan Trussell:** thank you, Obama.

**[2:29:26] Kurt Metzger:** baseball to Cuba.

**[2:29:27] Joe Rogan:** They wanted to make sure that we could use the same sort of propaganda we use overseas on Americans Oh my god, because we gotta protect people. oh my god, Duncanan,

**[2:29:35] Duncan Trussell:** it's so fucked up.

**[2:29:36] Joe Rogan:** It's so crazy, like there's so much manipulation. And then also just think about this conversation, like, how many times Kurtz brought something up? And I'll be like, What, what is that? Like, there's too many things you're getting fucked with, whether it's glyphosate or atrazine, is making the frogs gay. Whatever the fuck is happening, there's too much to keep track of. There's too many things, there's too many stories. There's the the what was the child's Franklin scandal?

**[2:30:01] Joe Rogan:** There's too many of these fucking stories where you're like, how many can I pay attention to,

**[2:30:05] Kurt Metzger:** Well, how much will you tolerate? Uh, I'm guessing you'll. They could do it to you forever.

**[2:30:10] Joe Rogan:** well, who's they? The thing is like, People running there's a bunch of shit, different groups of people that are in bunch of b involved in a bunch of different types of manipulation and propaganda.

**[2:30:19] Kurt Metzger:** well, there's a pyramid that goes up, of course. Since we have this CRISPR gene editing for s quite some time longer than they've told you, I'll bet there's all kinds of Olympians at the top of the heap.

**[2:30:29] Joe Rogan:** Oh, where are we going with this? Well, they said,

**[2:30:32] Duncan Trussell:** God's among us. Well, You know, it's

**[2:30:34] Kurt Metzger:** not among you, but I'm just saying, you've got people with no oversight that can do whatever they want. Who is the guy that said we control time and space? When Trump got in

**[2:30:41] Joe Rogan:** I'm just amazed that these guys had the courage to come out and say they fucked Lindsay Graham after he was dead.

**[2:30:45] Duncan Trussell:** why would you do that? What's the cause, he had Good for point of these gross that them, bu- bumps on his

**[2:30:48] Joe Rogan:** good for them.

**[2:30:48] Kurt Metzger:** fucking taint.

**[2:30:48] Joe Rogan:** I mean, those guys are heroes.

**[2:30:50] Duncan Trussell:** for fucking a a great American hero? Yeah, well,

**[2:30:53] Joe Rogan:** for C- for coming out bravely after his death and that's and saying gotta be a good they fucked him. sex worker it is

**[2:30:57] Duncan Trussell:** And and for pleasuring one of the greatest They could've done ever,

**[2:31:00] Joe Rogan:** it while he was alive, and that would've been wrong, really. But or they could that's against the just kept their

**[2:31:04] Kurt Metzger:** whole code.

**[2:31:04] Joe Rogan:** mouth shut forever, and we would've never known. We would've never known that Lindsay No one would've Graham was gay. guessed ever, I would've never guessed it, never would've guessed I never would've believed it. He's not, he's I'm still,

**[2:31:12] Kurt Metzger:** not right now.

**[2:31:13] Joe Rogan:** I'm still incredulous. it's propaganda,

**[2:31:15] Kurt Metzger:** I don't believe it. I'm gonna be

**[2:31:16] Duncan Trussell:** it's not real. honest.

**[2:31:17] Joe Rogan:** Imagine those brave characters, they got together, all of them, and said, You know what, let's come out and let's say we fucked him.

**[2:31:23] Kurt Metzger:** People need to learn that Republicans are gay.

**[2:31:27] Joe Rogan:** There's a lot of them, You know how, nobody

**[2:31:28] Duncan Trussell:** yeah, they are. would've ever

**[2:31:29] Joe Rogan:** I think there's a lot guessed that Republicans of them, I

**[2:31:30] Kurt Metzger:** are gay.

**[2:31:30] Joe Rogan:** think there's a lot of like. That's one of the big rumors about Washington, is there's a lot of closeted gay Republicans.

**[2:31:37] Kurt Metzger:** No, but there's not a real, remember when those there's not a real thing, dudes How do except

**[2:31:39] Joe Rogan:** you know?

**[2:31:40] Kurt Metzger:** Pete Buttigieg, for some reason, that guy's faking it.

**[2:31:42] Joe Rogan:** Remember? No one knows They say, he think why. he's a fake gay?

**[2:31:45] Kurt Metzger:** I don't know. Tucker said it on Jimmy show one time,

**[2:31:47] Joe Rogan:** you said he's a fake gay?

**[2:31:47] Kurt Metzger:** he said, that's the rumor on K Street. And I, What I, I know,

**[2:31:51] Joe Rogan:** Tucker just says shit sometimes.

**[2:31:52] Kurt Metzger:** hey, I'm not G- I'm just gonna trust the science on this one, cause that's hilarious. Why Tucker is he doing it?

**[2:31:56] Joe Rogan:** says that nuclear bombs weren't created by people. who created What is that? Is I don't

**[2:32:00] Kurt Metzger:** he?

**[2:32:00] Joe Rogan:** know, but that's what he said. He said, I don't

**[2:32:02] Duncan Trussell:** what?

**[2:32:02] Joe Rogan:** believe people made them. I'll n- I'll never believe that, despite what they tell me. Well, like, what

**[2:32:06] Duncan Trussell:** who made him?

**[2:32:07] Kurt Metzger:** he's, he's talking?

**[2:32:08] Joe Rogan:** Demons, demons. Yeah, he's talk okay, He got attacked by a demon in his sleep,

**[2:32:11] Duncan Trussell:** I don't doubt that I've been attacked by demons in my sleep. really. Sure, demonic satanic

**[2:32:17] Joe Rogan:** So you got clawed, though, shit.

**[2:32:18] Duncan Trussell:** what?

**[2:32:18] Joe Rogan:** you got, he actually got marks on him.

**[2:32:20] Duncan Trussell:** I know? I don't think I ever got a claw mark, but I've definitely tried to fall asleep on acid I think and get attacked by demons.

**[2:32:25] Joe Rogan:** Tucker is very clever, and I think he's almost like doing a very s. He's doing like a a little subtle fiction occasionally, like, throws things in there for funsies. Concept You think

**[2:32:37] Duncan Trussell:** of journaling. he doesn't believe Yeah, a little bit,

**[2:32:38] Kurt Metzger:** in anything?

**[2:32:38] Joe Rogan:** a little bit. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying Cause at all. No, if you're a Christian, I don't,

**[2:32:41] Kurt Metzger:** you believe in demons.

**[2:32:42] Joe Rogan:** I don't, I do not. No No, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is like, there's some things that he says. I'm like, I don't know if you're like, like, you don't think nuclear bombs are made by people, like, what?

**[2:32:53] Kurt Metzger:** he's saying the intelligence behind it. They channeled something the way they got our rockets from doing jerking off in the desert and looking at each other's eyes for What? some reason. Yeah, Yeah, Jack Parsons,

**[2:33:00] Joe Rogan:** what? Jack Parsons, Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

**[2:33:03] Kurt Metzger:** how do you not know this?

**[2:33:04] Joe Rogan:** They jerked off and looked at each other's eyes. I know Jack

**[2:33:06] Kurt Metzger:** I mean, I, I'm being Parsons was, glib, but

**[2:33:08] Joe Rogan:** well, Jack Parsons was a satanist, right? like a legitimate yeah, that's satanist. he was the father

**[2:33:11] Duncan Trussell:** a Thelemite.

**[2:33:11] Kurt Metzger:** of our that and the Nazis. Did y'all He wasn't, go ahead, know that? About he wasn't a Hitler? Satanist. he wasn't

**[2:33:15] Duncan Trussell:** No, he was a Thelemite. He was a he was a a student of Crowley. sex cult antichrist. He Satan just was a

**[2:33:21] Kurt Metzger:** means the enemy of man.

**[2:33:23] Joe Rogan:** I thought he was like a satanist.

**[2:33:25] Duncan Trussell:** No, well, I mean, people lump in, that's the problem is people like, are kind of illiterate when it comes to all the different, like says. He's sex

**[2:33:31] Kurt Metzger:** What do you think? entities. crazed

**[2:33:33] Duncan Trussell:** He wasn't a Satanist.

**[2:33:34] Joe Rogan:** sex Duncan, what is sex crazed?

**[2:33:36] Duncan Trussell:** That doesn't mean you're a Satanist.

**[2:33:38] Joe Rogan:** This means you just like to fuck. You think about it a lot. I'm My mama a normal person. said Satanists is Satanists Like how they sell you cars and they're like Cindy Sweeting, sell those sports fuck out. What are we sex you know, she saw crazed?

**[2:33:49] Kurt Metzger:** Mossad honey trap bullshit. You know that you saw that,

**[2:33:51] Duncan Trussell:** well, thank you, Massad.

**[2:33:52] Kurt Metzger:** like all the actresses and actors, they're all fucking puppets of somebody.

**[2:33:55] Joe Rogan:** I thought they were all aliens or babies or something.

**[2:33:57] Kurt Metzger:** Why did you think that? No one said that?

**[2:34:01] Joe Rogan:** What are we looking at, Jamie?

**[2:34:02] Jamie Vernon:** I'm trying to just find something good in here. Scientology I gotta stop looking.

**[2:34:04] Kurt Metzger:** is based on this cult, Parsons is a part of. That's right. The Oh, really, L. Ron Hubbard said he infiltrated a group of satanists. He's talking about this guy.

**[2:34:10] Joe Rogan:** God, this is too much. This is like what we were talking about. I think you might be working for the government to overthrow us look at with information.

**[2:34:15] Duncan Trussell:** his outfit, look at his outfit.

**[2:34:16] Joe Rogan:** He's overwhelming us with this. You took his your CIA vest off, how come?

**[2:34:20] Kurt Metzger:** It was very hot, it was too hot. Also, I thought Jamie could tell I was wearing a wire, and I was like, I fucking not doing it. I look over, I see Jamie looking at me, and I got spooked.

**[2:34:32] Jamie Vernon:** So we don't wanna wear the headphones, He doesn't wanna

**[2:34:35] Joe Rogan:** Jesus, you're here?

**[2:34:35] Duncan Trussell:** wear the headphones. No, they fall off I mean, this because my

**[2:34:37] Joe Rogan:** is one of the things hat. that I said about you, like from working with Jimmy. It's like you were normal, like three, four years ago. And then, like, something happened to you with, like, the amount of fucking conspiracies you were confronted with,

**[2:34:48] Kurt Metzger:** no, no, no, just news. And again, right? I uh, the Tuckaloches I don't mean thing is my fun time.

**[2:34:53] Joe Rogan:** conspiracies. I don't wanna say, like, I don't mean, like, But I mean, fake things.

**[2:34:56] Kurt Metzger:** the disaster that is current events on a daily basis, the daily And then the true trauma

**[2:35:00] Joe Rogan:** reality behind these current events,

**[2:35:01] Kurt Metzger:** is horrific. terrific. And so once you see how bad it is and you see the kind of criminal organization that you're having this administered to you by, uh, you have to be a fool. It's like, I don't think John, I don't think the mafia, well, actually, the Italian mafia is better than these people by a lot. I mean, uh, credit where credit is due, nowhere near as vile. And and the level of trafficking of humans and just your money and everything is is they can never stop.

**[2:35:26] Kurt Metzger:** The way Roblox can never stop letting pedos on, cause it'll it'll ruin their fucking, uh,

**[2:35:30] Joe Rogan:** The way they can't stop using glyphosate in your food supply, because otherwise they can't get your food. that's Because if you have to what Epstein poison your food, is. you got no food.

**[2:35:37] Kurt Metzger:** Epstein's a minor node in a thing that's way bigger than him, obviously. And we were with Eric Weinstein at the U. U. Tate. He goes, If do you think he was the main guy? I go no. He goes, If it all ever came out, it would end the world. And I go, Oh, no, Weinstein said that he yeah,

**[2:35:53] Joe Rogan:** loves that kind of talk, he loves him and his brother, they both love cloak and dagger you see their, talks.

**[2:35:57] Kurt Metzger:** you see his brother's mentor's email. Speaking of Togaloches, uh, Dr. Trivers, you see his fucking weirdo emails to Epstein about,

**[2:36:03] Joe Rogan:** What? Yeah, Robert Who's that?

**[2:36:05] Kurt Metzger:** Trivers, the M, uh, mentor of, uh, uh, uh, the better

**[2:36:10] Joe Rogan:** Bret Weinstein?

**[2:36:11] Kurt Metzger:** Weinstein. Yeah, Brett's, Brett's mentor, yeah,

**[2:36:12] Joe Rogan:** What do you mean?

**[2:36:13] Kurt Metzger:** so Robert Trivers. The email about how you can manipulate a kid, give him tits and dick. Cause,

**[2:36:18] Joe Rogan:** by the way, it's Weinstein, not Weinstein, oh whoops, like, like Harvey,

**[2:36:21] Duncan Trussell:** I've been saying it wrong.

**[2:36:22] Joe Rogan:** don't say it like Harvey, fuck Harvey Weinstein, Weinstein, Brett Weinstein. he's a stein. It's

**[2:36:26] Kurt Metzger:** You say, like that guy, better, Robert Reich, remember

**[2:36:30] Joe Rogan:** it's better. Robert? Like Steven

**[2:36:31] Duncan Trussell:** Robert Reich was fine.

**[2:36:31] Joe Rogan:** Seagal, it's not Steven Seagal. Get it?

**[2:36:34] Duncan Trussell:** Got it. Sorry, I said it wrong.

**[2:36:37] Joe Rogan:** Emails revealed Epstein encouraged controversial scientists to study transgender biology. What fucked Robert Trivers,

**[2:36:44] Duncan Trussell:** up thing did Epstein not do

**[2:36:47] Kurt Metzger:** But they're all dude, the transhumanism, the transgender thing is a stepping stone to transhumanism. That's why it doesn't make any sense. Where they're like, we wanna eliminate categories, but if I'm like, I feel like a woman, and you eliminate the category of woman, what are you just making me into nothing? Like,

**[2:37:01] Joe Rogan:** what?

**[2:37:02] Kurt Metzger:** that's what transhumanism is the goal, not transgender, that's a little stepping stone for the transhumanist movement.

**[2:37:08] Joe Rogan:** But what about autogynephilia?

**[2:37:11] Kurt Metzger:** Well, what, what about it? What's wrong with Well, that's it?

**[2:37:13] Joe Rogan:** what a lot of transgenderism is. Yeah, but Sure, but Metzger's pointing out the pushing that

**[2:37:19] Kurt Metzger:** of it by by oligarchs, which is what that was, that wasn't a thing that was that common, but they push it. That email's about that.

**[2:37:27] Joe Rogan:** So the email's about oligarchs pushing transgender ideology. No, that's even grosser Or

**[2:37:32] Kurt Metzger:** that that email. I I think it's

**[2:37:34] Joe Rogan:** what?

**[2:37:34] Duncan Trussell:** bigger than that. I think it's, like, you know, think of, like Kurzweil's idea of nanobots disassembling and reassembling our bodies.

**[2:37:41] Joe Rogan:** So Nicholas located an email which Trivers thanked Epstein for extra money and appointment as an advisor to your foundation. Epstein responded, I want to see you, you, I guess your piece on transgender in the bio world. Two months later, Trivers respond, responded and said he was getting to the end of transsexuality.

**[2:38:05] Kurt Metzger:** the second paragraph's the one

**[2:38:07] Joe Rogan:** Says, Uh, Trivers continued to make dehumanizing comments about trans

**[2:38:11] Kurt Metzger:** it's not dehumanizing.

**[2:38:12] Joe Rogan:** women, including if you as a heterosexual male and have a minor desire to suck a dick, then what better organism to do it with Oh, that's dehumanizing than a transsexual? How is that dehumanizing?

**[2:38:25] Kurt Metzger:** to call them an organism

**[2:38:26] Joe Rogan:** Says she will smell like a woman, be softer and more hairless like a woman, and may, to some degree, actually resemble one morphologically, leaving the dick for you to enjoy in a feminine setting. How What a is that dehumanizing? what a nerd,

**[2:38:43] Kurt Metzger:** because it's not the organism, that's what's better organism? that's. That's how That's right. a scientist writes But also, whoever about blowing wrote this is not really getting to the heart Also, of it. Well,

**[2:38:50] Joe Rogan:** this is a private emails like, how is that dehumanizing? It says it again, it says Trivers and Epstein once again corresponded about trans people in dehumanizing ways. Is this like trans times weekly that this is in?

**[2:39:01] Kurt Metzger:** yeah, this is a really

**[2:39:02] Jamie Vernon:** Click on it, it is from them bad. dot us.

**[2:39:04] Joe Rogan:** Okay, what is that?

**[2:39:05] Kurt Metzger:** Okay, why are you putting They my pronouns? know it's us, F- s she's right? Why are you mocking my pronouns.

**[2:39:10] Joe Rogan:** sending us here?

**[2:39:11] Jamie Vernon:** well, it's I was trying But there's It's kind of to find, all this funny, but dehumanizing chitter chatter, like, I know it, shut your shut your it ruins mouth. fuck.

**[2:39:15] Duncan Trussell:** Calling someone an organism is not dehumanizing.

**[2:39:17] Joe Rogan:** It's just this fuck bullshit talk. well.

**[2:39:19] Duncan Trussell:** We are an organism.

**[2:39:20] Kurt Metzger:** I, I'm not gay, they're gay. I just want them to be softer and have a dick to suck. That's normal. Suck it. That's what scientific, really

**[2:39:26] Joe Rogan:** kids talk in college.

**[2:39:27] Duncan Trussell:** scientific. Why don't we just I'm just talking shut down

**[2:39:29] Kurt Metzger:** to my friend Jeffrey. science? Epstein

**[2:39:31] Joe Rogan:** if you wanna get in with the right people in college, you have to talk like that. Yeah, you gotta suck that woman dick.

**[2:39:36] Duncan Trussell:** what's wrong with that?

**[2:39:38] Kurt Metzger:** What's wrong with a little Bridget McCroom?

**[2:39:41] Joe Rogan:** That one, like, where's that lawsuit? Like, they keep saying they're gonna sue Candace, I think she's

**[2:39:46] Kurt Metzger:** He's going nowhere.

**[2:39:46] Joe Rogan:** winning that one. They take Yo, a test,

**[2:39:48] Kurt Metzger:** you know she has a dick,

**[2:39:49] Joe Rogan:** take a, like, go do it live who care, who cares chromosomes.

**[2:39:52] Duncan Trussell:** if she has a dick? That's I agree. Gaga legal. What difference

**[2:39:54] Kurt Metzger:** I can't.

**[2:39:55] Duncan Trussell:** does it make?

**[2:39:55] Joe Rogan:** Well, because it's a different thing between a 40 year old woman fucking a 14 year old boy That's fucked and a 40 year up. old man fucking a 14 year old Especially if it's boy. That's his dad the difference. secretly. What?

**[2:40:05] Kurt Metzger:** It might be his dad.

**[2:40:06] Joe Rogan:** It might be his dad, Macron's dad,

**[2:40:09] Duncan Trussell:** Wait, what?

**[2:40:09] Joe Rogan:** what?

**[2:40:10] Kurt Metzger:** Well, I don't know that it is for sure, but Who said yeah,

**[2:40:12] Joe Rogan:** this one? Is this a Candace one, or is this somebody else's thoughts?

**[2:40:15] Kurt Metzger:** well, no. Candace was taking stuff from French report, and she says that when she was reporting That it might it, be his own father, yeah, it's that Macron a. They're the only might be his ones that get you in trouble own by bringing up the the bet me in the good billionaires, trouble. the Rothschilds, who have not done anything wrong and only I only hate Peter Thiel. I would never talk about the Soros boy or the Rothschilds or anybody else that could be construed.

**[2:40:35] Kurt Metzger:** And Good, I, I make that clear good, thank Wait, what does you for this have to do

**[2:40:37] Duncan Trussell:** making that clear.

**[2:40:37] Joe Rogan:** with Macron's dick?

**[2:40:39] Kurt Metzger:** because they're related. He's like a Rothschild banking

**[2:40:41] Joe Rogan:** You ever see him sit guy. down? Y- right, Her sit down, the way the way she sits down, like a dude,

**[2:40:47] Kurt Metzger:** it looks like David Spade's in like, there's, it. there's no way could be,

**[2:40:49] Joe Rogan:** guys don't sit that way.

**[2:40:51] Duncan Trussell:** could be I, but I do think the pedophilia part gets left out, right? Like, it's The pedophilia some of the

**[2:40:56] Joe Rogan:** part is very different. So, like pedophilia for like a 40 year old woman and a 14 year old boy, fucked up, it's a little fucked up, but whatever,

**[2:41:04] Kurt Metzger:** I thought that's a femophile.

**[2:41:04] Joe Rogan:** she's. She's dead, who cares? But the difference between that and a 40 year old man, a 40 year old man and a 14 year old boy freaks people out, rightly so. Like when you hear about a school teacher that fucks some quarterback, like, who cares? Remember the Galifianakis But if you,

**[2:41:18] Duncan Trussell:** joke?

**[2:41:18] Joe Rogan:** yeah, yeah, you got his buddies high-fived him to death. Great joke.

**[2:41:24] Kurt Metzger:** I know somebody that that happened with.

**[2:41:27] Joe Rogan:** Oh, I bet you do. Is his name Kurt Metzger? maybe no, no, But you know what I'm saying? Like, if a teacher is, uh, having sex with her quarterback, you know, y- you know, probably you're gonna break the kid's heart, fuck his what class head up,

**[2:41:43] Kurt Metzger:** is this?

**[2:41:43] Joe Rogan:** but he's gonna be fine. But but if you find out that, like, the football coach is fucking one of the the s 15 year old cheerleaders, you want him in a cage. It's a different feeling, right? Yeah, well, It's a different feeling. the person A 45 I know year old football coach is banging a 15 year old cheerleader, like, string him up, All right, look, I'm fuck, that.

**[2:41:59] Duncan Trussell:** not, I'm not. Uh, I'm sorry, What did you it's gonna

**[2:42:01] Joe Rogan:** do?

**[2:42:01] Duncan Trussell:** seem like I'm trying to go woke here. But I remember doing some fucking joke on stage about this subject, right? Talking about this, the difference, it whatever edge lording. It's a long time ago, stupid joke, it wasn't funny at all. But this dude comes up to me after the show and he's like, I got. When I was a kid, when I was like a like, twelve or something, I got fucked by an adult woman. And he's like, and it fucked me up and I'm still fucked up, like it, it well, I know people actually,

**[2:42:26] Kurt Metzger:** that it fucked them up because I tell very it fucks you up,

**[2:42:28] Duncan Trussell:** it's too much. it definitely Can't handle it,

**[2:42:30] Kurt Metzger:** Fucks you up.

**[2:42:30] Duncan Trussell:** It wrecks you, and, like and though I don't doubt, like, I let me tell you, when I was 14, that that I would p- that would be, like, God coming into my life to give me a hot teacher to fuck. So, I get what you're s you know what I mean? Like, Goddamn! I was looking, Goddamn! I was looking, I would have You know, I

**[2:42:46] Kurt Metzger:** Been fucked up. Was looking at Teacher. Hustler pages, Yeah.

**[2:42:48] Duncan Trussell:** You know, I was, like, so horny, but You're the I think so,

**[2:42:52] Kurt Metzger:** Hopper teacher?

**[2:42:52] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, yeah, but I think

**[2:42:53] Kurt Metzger:** Van Hammer?

**[2:42:53] Duncan Trussell:** It wrecks it wrecks some people, it wrecks People.

**[2:42:55] Kurt Metzger:** Doubt. No Doubt. Doubt. If that happened to me, I would beat myself from it 'cause I was a church kid, very innocent, and so, you know, I mean, there was dudes in my school that had, like, mustaches and families who worked at Arby's, but, like, I wasn't that, so that I think it's very individual What would how It certainly Bad it would

**[2:43:12] Duncan Trussell:** Is not ideal. Right. There's Right?

**[2:43:12] Kurt Metzger:** A law for a reason. I don't give it now when people go, Oh, she's only 19, and that guy is, however, I don't give a shit.

**[2:43:19] Duncan Trussell:** Like, think about that lady that fucked her t her student or the young boy, and then he was a young guy, and then she went To jail, and then when they got out, like, they had f- a family together. Yeah, and then You know what I Became the leaders Mean?

**[2:43:33] Kurt Metzger:** Of France, I believe, no, I'm joking, but it's the same same story, different outcome.

**[2:43:35] Duncan Trussell:** Yeah, it's not always it's it's I mean, It's not I'm not It's not ideal, Ideal. I mean, I would be pissed, I mean, imagine if you heard that happened to your kid, You know, like, you know, that's it's fucked up, it's like, there's just too much power to manipulate Some poor teen, you know, like,

**[2:43:48] Kurt Metzger:** Of course. It's fucked up the Yeah, especially

**[2:43:49] Duncan Trussell:** Power dynamic.

**[2:43:50] Kurt Metzger:** With those big, juicy tits.

**[2:43:51] Duncan Trussell:** Oh, god, I would have loved to though.

**[2:43:55] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, what's her name again? That's right, Mary Kalinich. She, uh, they made Wait, were A beautiful Those their kids?

**[2:43:58] Duncan Trussell:** They made a beautiful family.

**[2:44:01] Kurt Metzger:** Oh, this says they got separated, this was, like, 10 years ago. Yeah, they separated Fuck is 21 years Eventually. A good Well, they eventually While.

**[2:44:05] Speaker 5:** Grew up and realized, Oh my god, she was fucking crazy. Why would she bang me when I was 14? That's fuck. I mean, uh

**[2:44:12] Duncan Trussell:** Or maybe she he just got too old for Boys, It.

**[2:44:15] Kurt Metzger:** I gotta pee, let's wrap this up.

**[2:44:30] Duncan Trussell:** Alright, let's wrap it up. I Mr. Boys Got pee too.

**[2:44:31] Kurt Metzger:** Is an awesome podcast, you guys are great together. Thank you, thank you, Legitimately, Legitimately, Son. Like, it's I'm so glad you guys decided to do it, I knew it was gonna be huge from the beginning, I was like, This is gonna click.

**[2:44:38] Duncan Trussell:** Thanks, Joe. Thanks, man.

**[2:44:40] Speaker 5:** Good luck with your fake dick.

**[2:44:40] Kurt Metzger:** I know, I feel it's now that I know there's How about A dude

**[2:44:41] Speaker 5:** We'll swap, and we won't tell anybody, I'll give you a real one on the way out, and Whoa, You can leave that I just wanna One behind.

**[2:44:41] Kurt Metzger:** Feel the rest of it.

**[2:44:42] Duncan Trussell:** That's a gift. So, just 'cause I Oh my god, Love you. Love you, Take the I'm gonna give Real back, you You I'm gonna give Motherfucker.

**[2:44:46] Kurt Metzger:** You the real Walrus dick, and you Can leave the Fake one, and Alright. No one will know. Well, Jenna doesn't want me to

**[2:44:48] Duncan Trussell:** Thank you, Joe.

**[2:44:48] Kurt Metzger:** Have it, but she doesn't Thank you, She doesn't want Want you to Joe. You to have the Know. I'm just Fake one or the Saying I just

**[2:44:49] Speaker 5:** Real one?

**[2:44:49] Kurt Metzger:** Like to position her as as being against me having a walrus dick in my butt. Alright. Uh,

**[2:44:56] Duncan Trussell:** You know that's Joe?

**[2:44:56] Speaker 5:** And your show, one more time, tell everybody to Uh, the Get your drink.

**[2:44:59] Kurt Metzger:** Experts on YouTube right now is pretty funny, man, I I I'm Mr. Boys, Telling you.

**[2:45:02] Speaker 5:** Look at that, that's awesome.

**[2:45:03] Kurt Metzger:** Yeah, we we gotta make our based hoe shop shirts.

**[2:45:07] Duncan Trussell:** Yes, we do.

**[2:45:08] Speaker 5:** Based hoe?

**[2:45:09] Kurt Metzger:** You know, like, bass ho- bass pro shop? It says based hoe shop, and I have a female

**[2:45:14] Speaker 5:** It's like a it's like Owenist a girl's mouth It looks great. Instead

**[2:45:16] Kurt Metzger:** You know?

**[2:45:16] Speaker 5:** Of a bass. Alright.

**[2:45:17] Kurt Metzger:** It's that Owenist with the fish body from, uh, the Atlantic, you know, uh, Bay Union, puts a Check.

**[2:45:23] Duncan Trussell:** When does this come out? Tomorrow. Oh, can I plug a show? I'm gonna be at Mike Drop Comedy in Detroit tomorrow.

**[2:45:31] Speaker 5:** Is that the same as Mike Drop in San Diego, is the same company?

**[2:45:33] Duncan Trussell:** I think so, I'm not positive About that, though. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, so This this Friday, Saturday, It's Yeah, tomorrow.

**[2:45:39] Speaker 5:** Sunday? Oh, dope.

**[2:45:39] Duncan Trussell:** I'm gonna be there tomorrow.

**[2:45:40] Speaker 5:** There it is.

**[2:45:41] Duncan Trussell:** Thanks, man.

**[2:45:42] Speaker 5:** Detroit House of Comedy, it says. I like playing with That's weird, The children I thought it In Detroit, it's a Was, oh, Good town for That You don't even I

**[2:45:46] Kurt Metzger:** It, actually.

**[2:45:47] Speaker 5:** Know where the fuck you're going.

**[2:45:47] Duncan Trussell:** It's Mike Drop comedy, I don't know Oh, Mike Why I was saying that, Drop comedy, That's what it is, Yeah, that's where Mike Drop I'm from, that's where Comedy.

**[2:45:51] Speaker 11:** I'm from. Oh, okay, you're

**[2:45:53] Duncan Trussell:** That's where I'm gonna be.

**[2:45:53] Speaker 5:** All right, bye everybody.

**[2:45:54] Duncan Trussell:** Bye.