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Uh, I get to host you two ding dongs tonight at the house. You coming over I know for dinner?

Oh, yeah, that's right.

Uh, I don't. I don't think you guys have ever been to my house for dinner.

what are you talking about?

Uh, I I don't think you guys have ever been to my house for dinner. You're totally joking. Well,

of course. J- Jason, what are you talking about?

well, uh, when is the last time? then tell me when's the last time the two of you have come over to my house for Well, I don't dinner?

keep a record of it, but I've been there about 25,000 times for dinner.

I don't think so. Not just for dinner. Like sitting around the dinner table, sitting around just it is

for dinner.

a plan for you guys to come over for dinner. It's, you know, it's always just sorta casual, Last you know?

year, I haven't done it, but we were everybody was away, but I we did, uh, movie night one night last year. Yeah, but see, Uh,

that's it. But it's with a bunch of other people, and it's kinda you're sitting around the k- the kitchen and you don't really

just us. Oh, you, oh, like, I mean, you mean, like, sitting yeah, you don't sit down. Yeah,

down. You can multitask.

that's true. We we I've done it, like, maybe twice at your place, or once or twice. Where was where

was that? We always like, stand it's always

in the kitchen. takeout, it's always takeout, Yeah, always standing around and just like, doing

Oh, um, uh, yeah, well, that that's true. I've never

This is not a com. It's not a complaint.

I don't cook. No, but I don't do you. Y- well, you guys, you guys don't cook. No, I You have no

don't cook.

idea how to cook, right?

No, I don't, I have none.

Sean, can you boil water?

I can. I make sloppy Joes. I just had tons of sloppy Joes last week. You did? Oh,

And then and then you just spice it and make it chili. What's the dif? What's the diff? I used to do that at my school. They'd really be like, big sloppy Joes we're gonna have sloppy too. Joes, and the next day we have chili. I'm like, Hey man, I'm onto you. Okay, I know what's happening.

hey, wait, wait, what's tonight? Did you guys talk to Amanda? What are we having tonight?

Uh, I don't know. She didn't say

She hasn't taken your orders.

Sean, do you know? Sean? Do Do you know you know this? I don't of your dietary care.

limitations?

I have? I have none.

Why don't we sh- have sushi delivered or something easy? All right, All right,

Well, that's easy.

or or that

Easily expensive. pizza. Yeah, why don't why don't we just have gold bars delivered? What do you sushi? What kind of life are you But no, what about living? We're gonna pizza? What about get a lot of lobster. just Uh,

what about what about pizza?

I told you about the time, JB. I told you about the time I I witnessed Sean eating lobster on a private jet, right? That was incredible.

It was in the dock. It was in the dock.

No, not in the dock. It was a different time when we went to Niagara. And and all of a sudden, and then the I, I Sean and I, I got a I got a lift and, uh, from these guys. Then I get on there. And all of a sudden, the the person comes out with the food. You guys ready for lunch? Yeah, and puts the thing down and all of a sudden starts serving lobster. What was that guy?

It was unbelievable. It was unbelievable.

That just turned my morning around.

all right. Um, oh shit.

I know.

Okay, good. I was just checking on this restart have we cause I lose got a guest all my yeah,

tonight? Or no? I was, yeah, we have to. Like, Who are we?

I was panicking if I lost We are having my notes.

dinner tonight so we can catch up later.

I know. All right, wait, wait. Um, and then, oh, fuck, I think I may have lost my notes on this restart. Hold oh my on, I've got

god, are you kidding?

my intro, I've got my I've got my intro, um, Okay, you and then

intro, and we'll chat and you look for your notes.

no, no, here, okay, and then where are my notes? God damn it, this is all Michael Grant Terry's fault. It's gotta What did he be somehow,

do? What did he do?

it just somehow it's gotta be his.

Michael Grant Terry? Can I just talk about him? For a

there it is.

sec? There's the notes. Michael Alright, guys, Rob, Rob and Bennett and Michael need a we. We haven't had a minute. Uh, Robert Robert Carl, Rob, Rob um, Garf. Uh, Michael, Bennett and Rob grease the wheels on this thing. They make it c- they make it happen. They the So we're gonna trains on, see keep the trains on time. They do so much stuff, always. they do so much for us. she's our producer. What a bunch of professionals.

Um, and I really

all right, I'm ready.

appreciate it. Okay, you ready? All right, I was vamping, but I meant it. all right. I meant

I mean it too. I second Love those all that praise. guys. Yeah, third, Okay, all right, here we come, guys. We have with us today a woman who has been a success in this business for over thirty years, and she's still going strong with multiple nominations and awards to her credit. She's been working across film and television since she was a child now balancing acting with producing. Now she's running Justin her own production Bieber company. No, she's set to have one of her biggest projects ever release this October.

It's massive, massive. She has climbed Mount Kilimanjaro, she's sung at the Hollywood Bowl. Sean, she's a level six trained gymnast. Will you

What?

met her on Seventh Heaven? You rooted for in Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and you're about to ride

Jessica Biel?

shotgun with her in the blockbuster Matchbox this fall. Guys, it's Kim and John's girl, Jessica Biel. Woo Oh, guys, Jessica, thanks for coming on. guys. Thank you so And it's so nice to much for having

meet you.

me. It's so nice to meet you too. I'm nervous, I my heart is pounding. I feel like if I had to take a polygraph test, I would. Li- I would fail.

hey, I'm excited to see that movie. I watched that trailer this morning. Wait, tell me

It's fun.

what is it?

Matchbox, the movie.

No way. Okay, yeah, dude, it's like, remember Oh, that's exciting.

Fast and Furious, you like that? You're gonna love this.

oh wow, that's a. But Oh my god, based on the Hasbro thing,

yeah, yeah. Or was it Mattel? Mattel.

Mattel, sorry, Mattel. Mattel? That's going listen to this to show guy. Hasbro Um, I used to play that all the time.

me too.

It looks so great. I love John Cena, the I know guy kills me

he's so fun, actually loved working with him. He's a doll.

Yeah, he's great.

now. Let me ask you a question. I bet you got a million times in the junket if you've already done that, and if you haven't, you're going to. Are you a fast driver yourself?

No, I am an old lady defensive driver. Slow. I've

Really?

got kids in the car, I live on Flashers a dirt road,

on?

I've got all of it. I've got like a seat lifter that keeps my butt from getting tired and and, you know, how You sit your butt falls

on a on a quarter apple?

asleep, basically. Um, I'm a very I'm a slow old lady driver. But then when we did the movie, I got to learn all this cool performance driving and now I now I want a muscle car.

And you did that. Did they train you

really?

It was so fun.

Okay, talk to us about that, cause I've done a little bit of that. That's that's very, very fun stuff,

It was so much fun. I mean, that is the best part of our job, right? We're ge- we're getting to learn these cool, weird, uh, skills that you may never get to learn. I got to learn how to, um, you know, stop a car on its mark, like, put the right back wheel on a mark. Oh, really,

It's called it's called the sandbag.

Yeah, yes, and slide it and then stop it. Do a one eighty and stop it, do a three sixty and stop it right you can do on a dime. that. oh my god, that's I

that's advanced.

I did it. I don't know if I can do it now. You need the right car. I think that is what I realized is, like, these performance cars that we were driving, they they do exactly what you ask them to do. It's

needs to be the real unbelievable. you would be, I one.

bet you'd be able to do it in a GMC, uh, of your, of Jesus, your choice. isn't Uh, once it? Isn't a professional it about grade engineer, you go, Sean,

isn't it about, like, the timing of the break and the emergency break or whatever? And like, it's it's a lot co- a lot of coordination. Yeah,

well, the cars I w- I was driving, which is why I it would be hard to just do it in a regular car, as I was using pedals. So I had I, I wasn't h- I wa- it wasn't an emergency brake, it was a clutch, and there was another, there was another, there was multiple pedals. It was like a car.

so you're driving stick. Were you driving stick shift car?

This one was not a stick shift.

Do you know how to drive a stick shift?

I do know how to drive a stick shift. Yeah, Yeah, me too, because, it's fun, it's a lot of like I said, start. those are fun. It

they don't make it anymore, is, I know they don't you know, make, they it's tough don't make stick shift anymore. at all. at all, I don't think so. like I think you, like, you have to, like, special order it.

They mu- like people like Porsche must still I I, it's, make those, don't they?

it's I. I believe it is. You have to really specify it. But, you

know, y- I, I was gonna say, Sean, you said something, uh, or Jason, you said, uh, maybe Tracy would be interested to know this. And he's, uh. Oftentimes, when you see people in in film or TV, pull in in a car or whatever, oftentimes what you don't know is that they're rolling into a sandbag. As Jason said, as a as sort of like to help so it can them fine-tune.

stay in the frame.

So it can stay in the frame. So they have it, cause they have a hard mark they need to stay to s so the the vehicle.

it's like a twenty five pound, uh, sandbag, um, that's like, kinda like f- uh, flayed open, like like a butterfly that they drop on the ground. It's usually we meant to weight down, like a stand that holds lights and stuff like that. Um, and they'll put it down and and and when the when the when the wheel rolls up on it, it j- it hits it. And then there's an art to actually hitting it so it doesn't look like it's lurching the car to a stop, like it's hitting a rock or something.

It's it's a whole thing, it's a it's a another actor cheat. We've we've got tons of those, um, but wait, so d so you went to driver performance like school, like Willow Springs or something like that?

we were in well, we were in Budapest, so we we just was. The team was there, and we were we literally were pr- we were training in this parking lot. Oh my god, Just me and a couple of these incredible

and they were like they were like, Oh, so, Budapest, okay, go on the street, don't worry, just we don't want you to go basically, basically, on. No, no, no, just go downtown, don't worry.

don't worry about the children.

No, he's no police, no.

that's that's about right.

So wait. So the whole thing was no, there was Budapest, it wasn't there. Morocco, too, there was Budapest, a bunch of different spots.

Morocco, M Morocco, Slovakia, um, Ooh, God, yeah, those were our main locations, if I remember.

Did you have to did you have to go like d? I've always wanted to do this, like, get a guys for my birthday, get me a like a racing track, like gift certificate. Like, where you race cars around a track, did you have to do that?

I did. My character is sort of a, uh uh, she's a race car driver on the side, c- which is cool. Um, and, uh, I did. We did a we did a track, we did some, some rounds on a real And, like, how track.

what'd you get up to?

Nothing crazy. I mean, it wa- I think we were around s, you know, eighty or something, kinda normal freeway. Because it looks so much faster when when the cameras are rolling. I know And also the weird part was sometimes I was in a car where I wasn't even driving and, uh, someone else is driving, and that was so

with on the hood.

much harder. We had people on the roof, we had people in the back, but it was so

Oh, you have to act like strange. you're driving. Yeah, so when Yeah, so Yeah, I wasn't strange.

driving, it made me sick, you know, cause I'm w- you're so much more in control when you're driving, right, like you you're in control, you know, know when the turn's coming, you know what you're gonna do. When you're not driving, it's the strangest thing.

it's the way I I did. I did, uh, a couple times, I did the the one of those big NASCAR tracks, uh, and I did it with, uh, uh, Jeff Gordon, and he took me around in Atlanta. And first of all, the bank, those curves are are like, it's almost like straight down, it's almost like a full. And so doing that and you're not driving, I hated it. I felt and I'm not a nervous driver or nervous ab- about speed and stuff, but I was.

And I also did it in a, uh, Formula one track in, uh, outside of Austin there at the uh, uh, a and I. I was so I. I got giddy almost, cause I was so nervous. He was going so fast and passing people and you're not in control. It makes you feel like you feel like, Oh, this is it. It's all over.

When when you were in control, though, Jessica, was was it a rush? Like, did you did you understand why people do it? Did you get the adrenaline? Yeah, for sure, I I I bet

think I started to really get into the speed. I I think I'm just so used to having to be a responsible driver on the road and responsible for people's lives, you know, little little lives. And it was so cool to get behind the wheel and know that everybody knew to get out of my way and that the I was gonna be safe and I could go s fast, and that was exhilarating. So, yes, that adrenaline, I'm kind of an adrenaline junkie in most ways, except usually in a car on the road, because it's so serious

like you can't.

and so scary sometimes. Um,

So it's like, so, so it's all so. It's family car all the time for you. You don't have, like, your own little, uh, personal little sports car you like to zip around. Mahalondon.

I don't, I don't, eh, n- no, So we're talking I I wobble.

full mini, full minivan. It's an Escalade, Okay, so it's, it's, all right, it's a, you sure,

know, it's a. It's like a cool mommy car, it's a it's a cool car. But I would love, like, a little Porsche, or, you know, I really like, I really like those those new kind of Bronco twos. It's not, it's not a s sports car, but it feels

that's a cute car.

like a faster, sexier, cute, like with the top that

It's a cute car.

comes off.

Will. Talk to us about the Bronco, too. no, I will Tell us about, not. I will Yeah, tell us how not. much of the Bronco, too, will you?

no no. Friend friends don't let friends drive Fords. Ever.

Here we go.

The Bronco was my first car ever, so I have, like, it's a just as a it has a little place in my Jessica, I heart.

know you like the Escalade, but I'll tell you something I'd love to get you into a Yukon X L Denali.

It's great. Send him my way. So

I would love the Yukon. Jessica, this I got a triple max whole diesel. Go ahead, Jason. I'm this, this sorry, I'm

Jessica, this whole love affair with America and the world in general. It started in Boulder, right

oh, it did.

with your outdoorsy, unconventional parents. Huh? What God, the fuck?

that's so. It's so judgmental. That's so The way you're saying great. that is so creepy and judgmental.

I know I was like, What is he gonna say? Oh, were they were Yeah, what's

they carefree? up? Yeah, Jessica, this is what him and I was saying. John, they just Fresh air you're out there playing eating, gro-

grab ass in the woods. You love the air, Yeah, what, what? How did? How did performing come into your brain? Out there? Were you guys

And Boulder.

were you guys doing like little shows for one another, little kids running around in front of hippie dippie mom and dad? God,

God, that sounds gross. It's all on Wikipedia, you're so you guys,

offensive the way you said that, that's so creepy. It's so I say, so. And a guy

did you say grab ass in the woods? Cause yes, that

grab ass in the woods.

that's what was happening. Um, I don't know you guys. All I can remember is I was one of that and I was just was a that annoying little kid. That was like, Mom, watch this, turn the video camera on mom. And she's like, Okay, great, okay, we're done. No, no, no, I have more watch again, you know, it was just constant, like I was just constantly performing, doing dumb things that were not cool, that she was pretending were cool, they were pretending

But did it?

were cool.

Where did it come? And I I Where? Like,

don't know where it came from. It was just always within me.

was it w- like, did you watch a ton of TV?

No, no, we didn't really watch a ton of TV.

No, they were playing grab ass in the We were grab forest, yeah,

ass in the woods. Uh, All right, well,

that too.

I don't know what it was.

I used to imitate Nadia Comaneci. Remember that gymnast Nadia Comaneci? sure did. Seven And I,

six, Montreal.

I would be like, I, I would do it over and over, like, watch this, and I would imitate that, like the heavy breathing after, you'd really land and the and your splint the stance, Oh, you did. Oh, right? And everything.

sorry, you, you were imitating the actor, not the actual gymnast.

the end pose, which is important, too.

you gotta snap it. All right now. Well, that that brings us to your, to your you were training as a gymnast as well, right? At about the same time

I wanna see you do that, Sean, so bad. I wanna you can say that see it

I'm Will and Grace. too, He does a lot of that. please.

do a round off and then the breathing. Um, and and then h- where were you in order of siblings?

I'm the oldest and I have one younger brother.

Now, where was J- where was gymna- gymnastics? Was it was a serious thing for a second? Were you training for that?

was. It was a serious oh, how about thing in Boulder.

that?

Um, I was playing soccer, I was doing gymnastics, and I was also Football. football. I was playing football, um, Ooh, yeah, and I was, um, you know, I. I was randomly getting involved with an agency, like a like a talent agency in Denver, and and literally doing commercial acting classes in the summer and that kind of thing. Because I was interested in that stuff. And then I started to get tall, and gymnastics started to, kind of, you know, not not really be my sport.

And I had to focus on other things, and I was

were you getting commercials?

not at that time. I was just learning how to talk about products like you will, cause you're really good at that. Um,

well, thank you.

you're so good at product Well, what's your favorite talking.

car? Will?

Well, we've already mentioned it, but, you know, the Sierra comes in in in the Sierra EV. Uh, is tremendous.

Um, so then when did, when, when did you th- when did you discover? Okay, I gotta, I gotta get to Los Angeles, I gotta, I gotta get out there to the Oakwoods, get myself a nice studio apartment and start knocking That was on doors. my life, Jason, Yeah, yeah, I, that was I know.

my place. I was there.

Yeah, of course. I was there Yep,

at those Oakwood apartments, in that studio apartment with my mom,

What age were you?

going to pilot season. I was eleven, twelve and thirteen, did it three years in a row. You know what, really? Okay, now I'm remembering. Sometimes I have these weird blackout moments where I forget about my life. Do you I know guys ever have

it's the weed.

that? Is it the weed? Okay, I figured it was the weed.

a lot of that's a weed. I mean, I'm from

Boulder, so you guys can remember. Yeah, it's goddamn parents, yours. So

Yeah, you got a head full of rope. Go ahead.

correct, it was music, weirdly. I wa- I was interested, I was like a theater kid. I wanted to. I auditioned for Annie when I lived in Connecticut, we took the train to New York. I wanted to be Annie, that was my dream. So it was all really easy show, music stuff, and then, yeah, and then it kinda switched into acting. Somehow, I don't know. So then you're out there for eleven, Tomorrow eleven, twelve, thirteen, I love

uh, pilot season. you. Did. Did we book a pilot? tomorrow you're on the Ignore them. Did you book a pilot? day.

wow. Wi- wills, Wills register. Wee I did seventh Heaven finally, when I was fourteen, I just turned fourteen, and I booked seventh Heaven that was and I've been book

your first, that that was your first gig.

that was kind of the

First pilot?

first real gig, that was the first pilot. And then, um, Yuli's Gold with Peter Fonda, like, booked at the same time, which was a little like an indie movie.

I remember that. oh my god, yeah, Yeah,

that was a great movie.

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So now, were you old enough, savvy enough to, like, think about, Okay, well, I've got this television career potentially starting here, I've got maybe this movie career starting here. How can I balance both? Which one do I want? Were were there any sort of that type of thinking, or or or no? Were you just like, Great work, work, work, great, I'm not in school,

Yeah, I think it was I, oh my god, I g- the dream is coming true. I'm working, I'm not in school, I'm living. It's happening. And I didn't think much about it. It just, you know, showed up on set and just started doing my job every day,

right? And it, and it was, and it was smooth, but you had you had to stay there. Now, you now, you're not living in Boulder anymore, you're not seeing your friends anymore. Moms have or dad, or both are having to relocate. Um, how was all of that kind of, like, fun, weird, uncomfortable, or would you would you even pay attention?

I remembered it being or I remember it being fun for me. I think it was a nightmare for my brother. I think my brother was like, What is happening to my family? My mom and I were here, my dad and my brother in Colorado. Then they eventually joined us in LA. And we lived in Calabasas for a while after getting out of the apart uh, Oakwood apartments after a while. Um, and then

Now, what about brother? Was he thinking about, or tempted, or encouraged to to act as well?

never his interest. He was an incredible

discouraged. He was discouraged.

yeah, none for you. No, he was a crazy talented soccer player, so he was just

Really?

very n- normal lives, going to school, playing soccer. Tell you Um,

out there in the West Valley, there's a lot of soccer. I played years of it out there in Woodland Hills. same, I did Yeah, that's a lot, too. that's a lot.

Good, good level of players out there, really. California

Great level of players. players were just Oh yeah,

seriously good.

Is that right? yeah, yeah, yeah. Bass so yeah,

Don Soccer.

Wait Wait. Uh, Jessica, how many seasons of Seventh Heaven did you do?

I, I did four full seasons and a so I did basically my entire high school career on the show. And then went to college for a little bit, and then once that happened, um, I kinda came back and forth a little bit and did s some some little, uh, uh, storylines that lasted three or four episodes, but never really came back for a full season after that.

right. But they were like, just come back and do this, and please just come back and do the. But did you find that you doing that? So how sorry, you were fourteen when you started doing seventh heaven. Is that right? So what Jeez, a great and you what? What a great way to learn to go and do the the sort of the discipline of doing a a TV series. Day in and day out, for those four years, in those formative years, must have taught you a lot everything.

about right.

Oh my god. Well, eh, I, I went to film school there, that was like film and TV, eh intensive program. I had the most incredible cast and crew. It was such a supportive, cool environment. Just a bunch of kids, like all the sib- all the wonderful actors playing my siblings and the parents. And I learned, ha- I mean, the stuff I remember so vividly is our amazing, um, uh, camera operator who taught me how to stand up and sit down on a chair.

You know, cause I would go like I was all over the place. He's like, you gotta stand up and then you gotta slowly sit back down, and you gotta make it smooth. You come back up and find your light, and I was like, What the fuck does that mean? You know, I learned to find the light, stand up, sit down, um, g- get emotional in front of strangers, be do crazy things in front of people I didn't know.

I mean, get comfortable doing all of those things,

And for Tracy, there's there's a phrase for this. They call it, they call it. I need you to groucho a little bit when you stand up there. And what that that's a groucho marks, you know, when you see Groucho marks? You kinda like when he walks and he's got the little cigar, and he, he's kinda like hunched over a little bit. That's their phrase for like, when you come up, don't shoot straight up because they can't keep you in the frame if you come up fast.

They want you to kinda, like, ease up a little bit, like Groucho walks.

I learned a lot. So,

Jason, what an impression of Greg. I didn't know that you

I guess I, I guess I have.

oh, look at there, he is.

Yeah, thanks, man, thank you, thank you.

But JB, you had the same experience, right? Like, as a kid, you learned, you kinda learned on, They teach you learned to fly

you a lot.

in flight.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you learn a lot, but what you don't learn is how to be a kid. You don't learn about like yourself, cause you're not That's in school a lot. Here And also, we go, here how is that? we go, Uh, I'm

here we go. thinking, Oh, Jason By the way, every again. you're drawing time you say JB, a mural, Hey I think you're talking Jason, get off

to me.

the cross, we could use the wood. Okay,

yeah, JB. JB and JB.

yeah, uh, so Jessica, how was that? how was how? w- were you mana- did you manage to to maintain a a semi-normal upbringing? Were you? Were you going into a normal school, uh, during the hiatuses? Were you going back to Boulder, or would you stay working with a tutor?

No, I was, I had I did have a school in LA. that I was working on, a program through. It was like one of those weird school for for for like bad kids, you know, or we're coming weird, weird kids. together. Yeah, And I was like one of the weird kids who never showed it wasn't on up.

a bus, was it? By any chance? I'm just sh- shot in the dark here, Thank God, but okay,

I know Jason went to school with him.

we didn't have room for it. oh man, so I,

I just, uh, I. I never really showed up back into real school, but I was playing soccer and my team was everything. I missed every practice, you probably did the same, and I only showed up to the games. So I was, like, sorta good killed and also really bad at the same time, cause I never

What position were you with practiced. on your soccer team?

I was a right midfielder, but what about you?

Uh, I l- left half, yes, left, uh, left inside forward at a left foot. So, uh, they they really took care of me there. that's right, Um,

as as they should have. But I was also that weird kid that, like, I would. I was super fast, so I could run with the ball really well, and then I would miss. I would miss the goal every time, like it was the most

not much of a shooter. easiest. It was You couldn't, you had

so embarrassing.

no finish to your game.

Every nobody wanted to give me the ball. They were like, Oh God, there she goes again, and I was, I just, you know, but I was, like, That's good. really positive totally know the and believing feeling. Yeah, if you can in myself,

provide good ser- if you can provide good service, that's okay, you know, then they they probably bring in a quality finisher with you. And and the

that's right.

and then all of a sudden, you know, the

all right, so so we're wrapping up seventh Heaven. We're now we're, we're, we're, we're kind of a big star. And then we get into rules of attraction, perhaps yes, a brea- Bret Easton Ellis uh novel, that's that's a little not quite so seventh heaven. Uh, were we thinking about, uh, was there strategy now starting to come in a little bit? And and uh, we're, we're, we're, we're approaching Texas Chainsaw Massacre, we're approaching Blade, we're approaching stealth.

We're start we're, oh my god, we're starting to this is like go,

full slate. yeah, once I forgot.

you're laid down on the bank, cat, okay, we're gonna go deep here. Um, uh, but

take us on this journey, take but us on this like things are th- journey.

you're transitioning into being a a an adult, um, and we're no longer like a teen star. And and it's exciting, and it's, uh, nerve-racking. I'm, I'm, I'm assuming we're making a career of this. Yes,

yeah. When did it switch for you to be like, Oh, you know what, I'm in a business? And, you know, when did that occur to you?

I don't know, I don't remember. Um, probably

when you have to start paying rent, probably.

Yeah. When I w- when I came back to LA. I never finished college, which is a huge regret. Um, trying not finishing and

high school.

oh, I'm sorry for you, that's that's rough. That's it's okay, really, really rough. It's okay. still Uh, I'm here for you.

working on it.

Okay, you got this, you can do anything, you can do anything.

Well, when the in fairness, the bus, w- with gas prices going high, and

We could not fix the the left we couldn't complete rear tire. the loop. the loop, All right, so so you're getting into adulthood, you're now you've moved out of Colorado completely, you're now living on your own in Los Angeles, and we're starting to knock down some movies. Um, how are we feeling about living in Los Angeles by ourselves? Um, uh, mom's gone back home, brother's back home.

yep, everybody's back home. I'm in LA. by myself.

How do we like living in LA. by yourself?

I mean, I w- it was good, I w- I think it was, it was, I think it. It had a c- you know, nerve, nervy at some times, and feeling kind of got a good circle you, of friends, yeah, had a good circle of friends.

But but so. But you're coming off the show and you're gonna start doing some movies, as Jason sort of started listing them. And there there is that moment of, like, Hey, is this gonna? Am I gonna? Am I gonna s uh, sink, or am I gonna? Or am I gonna make it here? Do do you remember the moment you g- a a certain job? What that you went like, Okay, this thing is gonna. We got some legs here to kinda make that transition into films.

Well, you if you guys will remember, that was a time where you really were only on television, or you were only in film. I think the I think I started to feel like, Oh, this is a business, and I'm gonna have to work hard to make that transition. Because everybody knows me as this very kind of proper sort of good kid on this show. And now I have to cross over into another part of this industry.

and show that that was just a character.

Yeah, I, I would say, I, I would say, Texas Chainsaw was probably one of those one of the moments where I thought, Okay, this is a really good move for me. This is really opposite, really different, same with rules of attraction, very opposite. Um, so I was getting a little bit more calculated. And and honestly, I think I was just interested in doing something totally different than what I had been doing, um, up to that point.

So,

And and and was it? Were these ideas coming from you, or was it agents? Like, I, I guess I'm pressing on all this stuff. Because it's like, it's so weird for a kid actor. You start thinking about these strategies. It's like, well, wait, but I'm just like playing different people and pretending this is all pretend for me. Just going back to, like, what you used to, like, do in front of your mom and stuff like that.

But then it you start to think about, well, God, I gotta make a career of this. And what are what are the keys to longevity? I mean, I'm just like thinking back then, if somebody told you you're gonna be, you know, you're gonna be thirty years into your career and things are gonna be better than ever thirty years from now. You know, like, would you have gone like, Oh shit, that is great? Like, did you think that that was, that that was are.

Are they something that's easily

better than ever? I still feel I don't but I know you. I mean, like, y- y- mean, I know you you just, guys are, like, really famous and have it all together. But I still f- I am still fighting my way back into the film industry. we all are, Oh my god, we all of it never, us are. Every single ever, ever job ends, you guys,

it never stops. it never I know, ends.

that's but that's healthy. So is Yeah, it is. Yes, 100%, a hundred if it, if it percent.

was easy, it would be, it would be, it would be s

there really is no security yeah, could on anything.

it be just slightly easier? I just a little, just just a let me make some little bit easier. calls. Um, Would you I'll make Oh, then not have some calls it would to push be boring,

after this.

all this? yeah, then it would So hard?

be boring. Um, all right, let's talk to before, before we jump to today. Um, we're still on the journey, we're still carving out great job. What about this? Tell me about tell This is not boring, me,

this journey is not is so boring to talk about.

no, it's exciting. That that I wanna know that getting to know you, Sean wants to know if there was any dirt on the set of that Super Bowl cast of Julia Roberts, Anne Hathaway, Bradley Cooper, Jessica Alba, but Kathy Bates, Shirley MacLaine, Ashton Kutcher, all the on Valentine's Day. I mean, well, the there must have been some kind of, like,

that was a big movie.

nonsense or or, uh, I

Are pranks?

I just can't.

anybody play any pranks?

God, I can't. I'm telling you, I can't remember anything. It was just fun and,

I just love those movies.

eh, you know, we we nobody worked together, we only worked with, like, one other. Y- y- All these stories were so separate, so, like, I only worked Everybody's with, like,

on for a week.

people. Yeah, and then you're off and you're gone. I know, I know, Um, so, I know, and it was so long ago, I I I don't even. All I remember is eating so much chocolate and running on a treadmill and then getting off the off out of that scene and just puking oh, cause Valentine all the chocolate.

really, right?

I mean, it just was chowing

Really?

during this one scene and just threw it up everywhere. It was, that's what I remember.

um, what about? And what do you do when you have long shoots like that? How do you? How do you organize kid time and who stays where and how do they come with sometimes? And all of that?

Well, she didn't have kids then, did you have kids then? no, I didn't have Not yet, it then, didn't have kids not yet. then. oh, oh, that one's not yet. Don't fun. jump ahead, Sean. Sorry, Yeah, sorry, sorry, all right. So sorry. then, so

I'm with you, Sean. then I'm I'm ready to jump. This story now, at is

this point, at this point, do we run into the woman with the greatest name in the world, Michelle Purple? And do we start Iron Ocean? Do we do we Michelle start your production company?

Purple started back. Get over here immediately, just get Oh, she's over here and

in the room.

say hello. Uh-oh, come on, We've got you have to purple. come over. No, but this guy's here. Oh, this guy Oh, that is that

Justin Timberlake. Michelle? Michelle, you look same just like Justin

to you. Same to you. Timberlake. She came Take care,

out here.

everybody. Wanna get me high? I was saying Hi, Mr. Timberlake, I was saying,

how are you?

Michelle, Michelle, you look just like Justin Timberlake. We were talking about Michelle Purple. Uh, hi, buddy, welcome Hi, to Smartless.

hi, how you guys doing?

hey, Justin. Good. Do you remember when I was nominated for a Teen Choice Award? And I came into your trail and you were rolling on my stomach?

he sure doesn't, he sure doesn't.

Good to see you guys. Good to see you guys. I was just gonna see if you wanted something to eat.

I'm g- Oh, thank you, baby, I'm good She needs some tech support.

yeah, it's tech support. Do you want some food?

right now.

Not just, eh? You all right?

No, I'm okay. Okay, bye. He's literally yeah, yeah, cook

trying to see if she's

it up.

safe. He's like, Are you safe? or do you want? do you want me to get you out of this?

I I I think I'm gonna sit down with you guys soon.

Yeah, get in. oh good. Oh, good old Oh, wait,

See, now they're really excited, they're so excited, we're excited again. like, so whatever, Just take over, take we don't know whatever over, you're here, she says about you're

me, I'll get to retort. Yeah, yeah, okay,

there you go. good. Great to see I know you guys. Bye you too, pal. I, I,

me too.

Sean, I can't wait to rub your belly again. Okay, but okay, thank you.

he doesn't.

Wait, was it a rubber or a right? He wrote he wrote it on wrote it down. my he wrote on What did

my bel- on my shirt and I didn't

what did he write? know. What did he write on your shirt?

I don't remember.

Just says, like, a an autograph?

No, but I framed it and I gave it to my niece.

Do you do you guys want me? Ask him to just come back and like, I can slide out? No, you're kidding No, no, he just me, he just told are you kidding? Wait, us he by the way,

just. He just told us that he's coming on the show, which I guess I know, means that that's a secret revealed. It must

is a secret. be, oh, Reveal. We're all doing there's another, there's visitors now. oh, visit, another visitor. Oh, Will us, it was Denny ever say hi, Denny? time.

And you can't hear them, but just say hi. Oh my god, Ah, listener, what a voice, that's Willie's

what a voice.

youngest, Danny. Yeah, wait, What a sweetheart.

Jess, he said. Ja- I did look at us. No, we, Hey, Jess, Yeah, okay, um,

So he, yeah, he just revealed that he's coming on the show. He said. Anything you say shitty about him, he can retort in his episode.

gimme a sh- give us a shitty story that happened this morning, or what's the or last That we have something night?

something that we can hold his feet to the fire on

yeah, about food or watching movies. Does anything, he does he grab anything. the remote? Like, does he ever let you take control oh, I, oh, of the movie?

I've got a good one,

Choices?

I've got a good one for you, which

okay, here we go.

happened this morning. So we have in our we have this little cute fitness space in our house, and we have this cool accordion, you know, these accordion windows that kind of fold into themselves.

Yeah, like on a honey wagon,

Yes, oh, a honey wagon. That just brought me back a honey wagon. Do we need to explain that to Tracy? I'm not sure. Is that so Tracy, she knows?

there there are these trailers, uh, yeah, we that service did before. dressing I was thinking rooms, and

of something else. Okay, go ahead. Yep, that too, anyway,

they're small, small dressing rooms. Yeah, anyway, go ahead, go ahead.

okay. So the accordion windows slide open and then you have this pretty view and you can work out with the windows wide open. Cool, I, I put the alarm on last night, went to bed, woke up and started, you know, pulling shades up. And the shades in the gym kind of went, kinda was the. It looked like they were getting sucked into the corner of the window and started to go up. And had a big crinkle in them.

And so and I was looking, and I quickly brought them back down and walked over. Accordion windows had been left open all night long. Oh boy, oh boy, And

uh oh, that's not good. honestly, I was And then you had to looking, first of all, make a show that alarm of it.

needs to be updated. First that was my first of all,

thing, was who did not connect these ginormous, scary windows to the alarm system, which let me turn JT. it on.

And don't you live? So You don't live, you don't live in Los Angeles,

I don't.

or don't you?

We live in Montana, and that's the other thing. We have humongous animals here, Oh my god, and if they they come in for garbage. So we could have woken up to a bear in there

uh, my dream. or a couple Yeah,

of elk or a moose.

again, something else, Sean's thinking of, something Sean wakes else.

up to a bear every morning. Thanks, Scotty. Um, So there you go,

um, wow, that's interesting.

you can give him some shit for that.

What about, you know, Scotty and I just? We always have this thing with the TV, too, where, like, every night when we watch something, I'll be like, Can you turn it up? Can you turn it down? God, I'm like, Well, if you're going to, if you're going to man the remote control, then you have to deal with me

Yeah, you have to be willing saying, to take, uh, yeah,

Yeah, you have to take direction. who gets You too,

the remote? You, you or Scotty? Scotty,

Scotty all the time. always, of course, I don't even know how to turn. I don't even he's Johnny know how the fucking Tech, although works.

I will say his phone went off the other day at a service and I was like, Hey, Johnny Tech, how I know you doing?

well, that was for his diabetes, thanks. So Jessica, Our lives nice, well, will alert good, it was Avadana really, Avadana. wasn't really, wasn't yeah, it really was, cause of his diabetes. Um,

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So wait, oh, by the way, you know what else? I saw? Because I'm on TikTok a lot

Sure, hold on one sec. that Jessica, go ahead, Sean.

so I know I wanted to say, I wanted to say how funny it was. Because there was a TikTok trend a while ago, and I saw your hilarious response to, Um, what was it? Moms used to startle their kids by saying, Jessica or something like that. What was that, right? Do you remember that trend?

yes, that that really happened. F- that was like a thing for a minute.

Yeah, where, where?

Well, tell me, I don't know Jason, I meant, that.

Oh, it's so funny.

Well, just you tell it

Well, it was just if if the kid's having a meltdown, they would go, Jessica, Jessica, and the kid would literally go

and stop crying.

and stop crying. And, like, look around in panic. And I and I literally was like, Guys, Jessica's are nice people. Your ki- you're making them scared, you're making your kids scared of us. We are not trying to, you know, creep you out or freak you out, and it d definitely doesn't work for my kids. My kids are like, she's going crazy, finally, she's just saying her name over and over and over and over again.

It does not work on your kids. How old are they? Uh, eleven and six, Ooh, Oh, fun ages.

six. I got a six. it was. Is he He just made my six

six? or he's six, yeah, so sweet, My, and that's a great isn't it? that's a

age, isn't it? sweet age, it's Yeah,

cute. But wait, wait, Jason, you were talking about purple, you were talking about Michelle Purple, oh, Michelle, right? Michelle yeah, of course, Michelle Purple, let's go, let's Purple.

get back to her.

who is Michelle Purple?

Michelle Purple. Okay, I'm so glad you brought her up. I know you hear this all the time, but she is your number one fan of S Me, Smartless. She is the number one fan of this show and is so excited that I'm talking to you guys. And she literally said to me this when she goes, If you fuck this up, if you embarrass me or us or our company, I swear to God. And I was like, I, I, I'm gonna do my best.

So so let's go mi-

deep on purple. Okay, let's So she's your go.

bus, she's your business partner, I, I'm She's my business guessing,

partner and has been my best friend for over twenty years. Um, she pr- she ran Rob Cohen's company, she was a she Love Rob produced Fast and

Cohen? the Furious, Triple X Wow,

and Stealth, and she hired me, her and Rob hired me for Stealth. That's how we met twenty years ago, and then we were in Australia together shooting stealth, um, and we became really good friends and started watching movies together. And that talking about going Then you poached her, back then you poached her, and I poached her, and she was ready to be poached. She wasn't sure what she wanted to do, and, honestly, but she I, I,

knew she wanted to leave Rob. She she, knew that.

she knew she needed to move on from that. Um, and I said to her, Hey, let's do, let's let's make a production company, let's do it. And she was like, You don't know anything about that, and I said, You're right, but you do so, let's. And she's like, This is a terrible plan. This is a So for Sean, bad idea.

Sean's sister in Madison, Wisconsin, uh, tell her what, re- g- uh, starting a a a production company really means. What, what, what? What did you wanna do with starting Iron Ocean

ST Okay, so when you started

with Michelle Purple? with Michelle Michelle Deep Purple? Purple, um, Yeah,

Michelle Purple, the best.

Jason, do you know her? Do. Are you good sh- l- friends with her?

We're deep, we go deep, deep, deep purple, deep

Does he know? purple. Does he know her? Does

deep purple.

he know her?

Um, I don't think so, Oh, we're gonna but guess what? She wants to know you, great, so she should come for dinner she may change your tonight. She lives mind, in LA.

she may change your mind.

or at least let's let's have a Zoom for a development meeting on something.

Oh God, yes, please, anyway, production company. So that was a moment where I really wanted to take charge of my career and not just sit around and wait for for the phone call of, like, you have a you have an audition, or you have this or that. She wanted to take Charg- charge of her career. And so we, we, we started this tiny production company, not not knowing how to do any of it. Well, she knew how to do she, she was a she made big films, big action movies, and we wanted to make small movies about women and female stories.

And that was when nobody was doing that, the only company that was doing that was Drew's company. Um, Yeah, yeah, yeah, flower flower, flower. So

with the great, with the great Nancy Nancy, Thibodeau. we love with the Nancy, with Nancy, the with the legend we love of all time Nancy. Yeah, Nancy, I love Nancy too. So same,

that was that literally, we would go into, you know, we'd go talk to our agents and managers and tell them this idea that we're doing this thing. And they literally looked at us and would just blink with blanks faces and go, do not do this. And we're like, we're gonna do it. So we have been trying to, uh, make movies and TV shows for twenty years. It was so hard. Um, we did almost nothing for ten years,

And then did you do? did you do better sister through, um, right? So iron? Yeah, through Iron

Ocean, we we did the sinner, we produced the sinner, we produced,

yeah, yeah, that was great um, Blind

great, great show. too.

Town, which nobody saw, which was such a bummer and was such a But good show.

taken from a podcast, so, uh, teach us how to do that. We're looking to break the smartless movement.

I love the sinner. I loved that. That was great.

Thank you. Um, better, better sister candy, cruel summer.

You had to work with that, that Liz Banks gal on better sister, though. How did you get through that? Oh, that Liz Banks Oh, this, this she woman, oh,

does more than anyone I know.

and and Max and Max, Oh, Max, I love oh boy,

her, she, she's a delight.

they're the best, they're the best.

They're just delightful and fun. She's so fun, God, she's cool and We love she does so her. She's the much shit. I'm

friend of the show.

like, how does she do so much shit? I know She's impressive,

Jessica, can I ask you? So you did all you did, all this stuff? Remember, J- uh, Sean asked you before when he when he jumped the gun, as he does about, yeah, having kids. And you had kids at the time, or you didn't have kids. But now when you go and you do something like, uh, Matchbox and and, and, um, and then you go, y- you're in, you're in Hungary, you're in Morocco, you're in Slovakia, you're in all these places, and you got to.

And we we deal with that. I know a little bit of what, what that's like, but how, how are you at managing that and dealing with that? With the family and traveling and doing if she can't cause it's come back and it's a constant,

forth when you're over there, right? Like, it's hard,

yeah, cause not only do you have to do the thing, not only do you have to do the job and be concentrating on twelve hours that, a day, twelve hours a day. You've got all these people and kids who you, who, who, who you're

not a problem.

responsible for, and you have to make sure that they're having a great experience. It's not, it's not easy.

no, it's not, and it's a constant balancing act. Um, sometimes I think I do it better, we do it better than others, and other times it's an absolute shitstorm. Um, You're right,

and and we, and and it should be. It should be noted that w- we know that a lot of people out there, obviously everybody in the world, deals with work and kids and stuff like that, and so we're not. But it. But it's also a adding in just the travel element of it, you know, being overseas.

yeah, there's a few occupations that that that have the same thing, you know, uh, not the least of which is military. And, um, yeah, I mean, uh, athletes and politicians and all these, they're, they're all, they're, they're stationed around the world, all that kind of stuff. It's it's very, very difficult, that travel element. How do you guys do it?

well, usually we try not to work at the same time, but that did not work at all for Matchbox. Justin was on tour, um, in the middle of the the global tour, which was insane. He was literally in South America, or he was in, he was in North America, and I was in Budapest with the kids. They they came for seven weeks, we didn't see Justin for eight weeks. Then we met back up in the Bahamas for a week.

Then I went to Morocco, then he went to South America, and my kids went back to Montana. It was, w- it was wild. The only way it works is the incredible nanny team, support team, assistant team, colleague team. I cannot do this, my life does not function without, like, all of those incredible.

And do you guys have family in Montana with you, near you?

We don't have, well, Justin's cousin Rachel and my kids cousin's Hawkins is here, but we d like. My mom doesn't live here, my mom lives in Colorado, his parents are in, um, Tennessee, my dad is in Hawaii, so we're all over the place. We don't really have kind of the we don't have grandparents close by, unfortunately, which is a bummer.

yeah, but you. But you make it work and you figure out and you get great people to help you, and those become. I think that that's, that's pretty normal. It used to be generations ago that you had family around to help. And now, because people live in all these places, as you pointed out, you have to have people who can help you, who become part of your family oh my god, and and help you. Yeah, yeah, same, yeah, takes a village, same,

all right. So what? does. Uh, so, when you're done being I, uh, incredibly prolific as as an actor, as a producer, It's a um, your your your job at home, which is even harder. Um, when you're alone, what would? What do you do to completely?

what are you scared of?

Oh, yeah, what, what, what do you? What's What do you do? the thought that That that you can't would surprise get out of your you? what settles

head?

you? that would be surprising to people, Oh, wait, you know, what's Yeah, wait, don't listen to Will.

settled? unsettled? said, Don't listen to Will,

you don't listen to Will.

but his voice is so hypnotic, that's all I can I know hear right it gets in now. I'm like, Oh there, my god, it's it is getting in like, here.

how do you decompress? don't listen to Will how do you reset? I I I like to just zone out and stare at a baseball game on a television screen. Uh, that sort of is just very meditative for me. What, what is there something that that takes you back down?

U- usually it's exercise or getting outside God and just being, you know, taking a walk, taking a hike, walking the dogs or training hard.

do you have headphones on when you're when you're when you're outside, or d or do you? Can you get quiet with I your brain?

go a little bit of both. I like to listen to books on, you know, like books on tape, whatever have you wanna call that? yep, works, Um, so I listen to the like I I. I love to read, I love to kind of dive into that kind of imaginary space world. And also just to listen to the birds and listen to the wind. That for me, I love, like, a a good forest bath I love that

you go to forest bath, I really, love that. That's forest bath. That's forest a great. bath. the name You know,

of my production company.

Jason, Jason, we were Jason, we were talking about this the other night at dinner. Sean, you didn't come because you had no plans. A and we were at a. Just so, you should know, we're all together and we're leaving this place and we're going for do because we're all in town again.

we've just shared a very emotional bonding evening at a A memorial a dear friend's

for a good, dear friend's memorial. memorial, the And Sean and great Jim Sean and Scotty go Burrows. home, they got nothing to do, and they go home. They don't, they don't come with their best friends for dinner. I I yeah, they're, know, I don't they're in a want to. rematch and No, no,

pold each other. I know, I

just I was just I

what was it?

Wheel of Fortune was starting, probably, right?

a B. I. I was tired. C I know Jeopardy too. I had Jeopardy's Jeopardy's before Wheel of Fortune.

you're you're retired from from what? So, but anyway, my point is this. J- uh, JB. You and I were talking at dinner about this idea of there's not enough premium these days paid on for for the idea of just sitting around and having nothing. You're not holding your phone, you're not listening to anything, you're looking out the window, you're just alone in your thoughts. And just that sort of I in in that kind of state. And that is where people say, like, Oh, you know, where does creativity come?

or whatever? It comes out of boredom. It comes out of letting your mind wander. And I don't think, do you ever do you do that?

who? me? No, she does, they she says. Yeah, sh- she No, she said, doesn't she's outside and she's out in the forest

waiting for you. bath. Yeah,

but but s. But to your point, just like sitting there, f- forest bathing, I mean, you gotta do we're it, but in the forest, I need where more of that in my life, honestly, I. I can get into that space where when I do come home, I'm like, Okay, now it's time to work out. Okay, now it's like, Oh, what's happening for the kids tomorrow? Like, there's not, there's not much time, and you really do have to carve out that time to sit quietly.

You know, when I find, you know, when I do it these days, we were talking about it. I do it on airplanes. I'll often force myself to not read, not to watch a movie, not to. And I just look out like a

the window. like a dummy, Yeah,

drooling, looking out the window, and I just I agree. but wait, look, uh,

can I go back to the forest bath thing? Is that a real? Okay, That no, it It's not a

is a thing.

real thing. Yes, we can No,

go back.

so wait, is I? Is it a real bath in the for? is there such thing you fucking as god damn it,

Well, maybe we shouldn't have gone

get over here.

back. I'm so sorry, you guys, wait. What do that's my

you think? And he's a bad, that's CIA? you think

my bad.

she's in a SiaLis ad? She's just sitting in a bathtub out in the forest. What are you talking about? You

I s I fell into

Dweeb? Numbskulls.

that trap. I walked right in.

I don't understand.

It's it's just the sounds, baby. it's the

Oh, okay, so you put on sound

it's you're.

so as as while you're taking You're just a bath?

like walking through the forest, bathing in the sounds of the forest.

Let the s let the forest wash over you. okay, so Yeah, yeah, wash

but let's talk about a bath. over. But let's talk about a bath versus a shower, Let's do. I because a bath

love a bath. to me is Great segue. Let's get into the bathroom, because a ba-

shall we?

because a bath is ten times more effort and work than a shower.

Wait, are you saying you prefer the bath or not?

No, prefer the shower, the bath, you gotta turn it on, you gotta be the right temperature, you gotta wait for it to I forgot ha- I'm

about turning it on. for You're right. But that's hard. You're Oh man, I right, and I forgot about and then you wait, it. Yeah. wait, wait. I gotta have feel like

an hour.

JB, you might be into a hydrogen bath. no, I I You're kind of

I don't. like a longevity What's that? f- like I I, uh, I

person, right?

don't. Yes, I don't mind working on my longevity for sure, but what I don't like about baths is not only, as I've discussed before on this Uh, I know show, are you stewing what this is. Dirty in your own juices? water. But you've gotta get out of the bath and then shower. Do you? Because you Wait, now gotta get well, of course You have you do, because to. you've been sitting in your filth for 20 minutes and How dirty you've gotta get in something.

Jason,

are you, JB?

Jason, Jason, and it's your dad's voice again. It's your dad's voice again. Stop. That was l- that It's your dad's voice.

went up, that went up.

It's not filth, Jason. You're not dirty, Jason. You're But so you're so dirty show got your own filth.

tell me, te- but just just give me the math. Uh, just indulge me for 1 second. You get into the bath, you're you're not clean before you get in the bath, right? Well, we can we agree upon that. You've taken your clothes off, so you've got your dirt and your sweat, whatever from your day, and you get into the water. Where does all the filth go? Still in the water, the the drain is clogged so that the water doesn't run out, right?

So you're still in all the dirt that was just on your skin.

oh my god, I just realized I am a disgusting human and I have been socializing.

Yeah, when you get out of the bath, you gotta take a shower.

I do often take a shower

you're dirty, Jason.

most, I would say 95% of the time, I am taking a shower after the bath, except when it's hydrogen bathing, and you're not supposed to do that What's hydrogen cause it's pulling the bathing? detox, it's detoxing you.

But what is that? And then

I love that.

it's in the water, you just gotta get out, and then I think you're supposed to leave that on your body. Am I wrong about that, JB?

but what's hydr- well, how is hydrogen She doesn't in water? I know. don't know about it. Is it like Epsom salts?

It's like a M it's a machine that injects, um, the hydrogen gas into and makes little teeny tiny bubbles

In the bath? in the bath, That sounds and it's good. It's a carbonated

detox, detoxing.

carbonated bath. Yeah, it's like So it's still

you're it's like you're in a soda. effervescent.

Really? That's what it feels Does it work? like.

I like a bath. I love I think a bath.

so, I love a bath. I also love a crazy Epsom salt bath, like with 20 pounds of Epsom salt. I'm not kidding. Can I tell you

That works.

something? Can I tell you? One of the most relaxing things in the world to do is to smoke a cigarette in a bath. I I love doing that.

With a little t you have a little TV on in the corner there, will Yeah, I did,

That's nice. I I I had But wait, what

the I sure do. about but I love let me ask about sports, love sports.

Epsom salt? Like, is Epsom salt supposed to do? What is it supposed to do to your skin? Why? Why do you have so much it it pulls of it?

stuff out of your skin, right? Isn't

It does.

that the point of the science?

It's definitely gonna detox, but it's going to it's gonna take the inflammation away. So if you're if you're soaking with so many pounds of it, like, to your body weight, you wake up next morning snatched, snatched, you know what I'm saying?

do you ever?

did you say snatched?

I did. Snatched.

You wake up snatched? Snatched? Yep, Yeah, like, if you Oh

have a, you know, you gotta shoot the next day and e- everything, you know, your whole body,

oh, wait a second.

your body's basically a giant hemorrhoid, guys. It's going up, it's going

What? down, it's going up, the gut, it's going down, yeah, it's inflamed so you gotta and stuff. You're saying

make it go down. I can wake

up slightly thinner, a little bit more taut, less Not even slightly less water.

thinner, like, it's gone, you are snatched.

do you ever do you ever, um, You turned

You know what I mean? pretend it, you turned it

when you're in the bath Tits. up. that you're shooting? Do you ever pretend you're shooting a commercial? And you take the sponge and you just kind of wash your arm, you know, like they do in movies and commercials.

You mean, like, slow and sexy alone in the bath?

yeah, yeah, do you ever do that Nope, not sometimes? ever.

No, you know what I I like, scrub like it's the end of my life, you know, I'm like, trying to get that yeah, I'm like, scrubbing so hard

oh, same.

and it's not cute.

I take I take a shower like Karen Silkwood. I'm just in there in the corner, just crying. Yeah,

uh, but Johnny, can I come back to you for 1 sec? So so you're in the shower and you slow things down with the s. First of all, there's a sponge in the shower. Did I get yeah, there's that right?

always a sponge. Yeah, yeah,

a loofah.

but I do, but but Uh-huh, and I do you slowly think I

drag it across your arm with a slight grin, as if you're Some no, in a commercial.

I do scrub, but I do, you know what I do? When I wash my legs, like my calf, Shower. I'll hold the sponge and move my leg, not move the sponge.

what fun you have in Amazing the shower. dude, I just

on aggression of humans. Yeah, I'll This is You've learned do. so much. Yeah, I'll do

this is interesting. this. Watch,

this, Jess, Jess, watch, I'll do I'm watching, this, I'll do, I'll do definitely.

I'm watching.

this. If this is a thing, I like this. Definitely show. Oh, that's Fuck incredible. That's that

So it's kinda like a little workout in the middle. reminds me of the

guy I know that masturbates, um, he masturbates missionary style. He, uh, he he lays on his bed, he lays on his bed stomach down, and he just fucks his hand. And this is a guy I know, okay? It's still he's as stupid as you are. Fucking moron. Hey, Jessica, I love having you on this show so much.

shit, what a joy you are.

Uh, you're the greatest, all right. and what do What a pleasure

you?

to have you on the those podcasts, So take that as your parting thought, you know what I mean? I'll never I'll never

thank you. forget that. That's something uh, I really you can't unsee. I appreciate you I guess I thoroughly

taking time out.

enjoy you and I hope we can meet in person one day. I've been a fan for a long time.

me too.

Yeah, you're the greatest. Well,

thank you guys.

all right.

This has been a lot of fun.

Enjoy the rest of your bath today.

Yeah, I can't wait for the car I'm not even Oh, I'm gonna movie.

be taking so many showers.

Yes, Matchbox, October 9th on Apple TV, don't mess around. Oh, that was, that was 3 days ago. Today's October 12th. Happy 12th, everybody. Jessica, love you, love see you, love you you. Jack.

guys, thank you. Bye.

Enjoy the rest of your day. Bye. Goodbye. goodbye. Oh

That was great.

my fucking god.

That's the great Jessica Biel. Um, I

She's great. guess y- you are By the way.

welcome. Uh, she's a delight. I she's a And, um,

delight. I want to do the outro. I I j- I give her her due. Her movie, you gotta go see it. Matchbox. He came I'm telling out this past you, the the trailer weekend.

was incredible. I can't wait. Trailer I can't

looks amazing. wait to see Well, that's

gonna be huge. She's great in everything

It's huge.

she does. She's such a talent. JB, walk us through your body of work.

This guy, this guy, yeah, is it? This is the this is, by the way, he's not the same guy, but he's also friends with the fella who doesn't chew gum because he doesn't understand why you'd chew something that you never swallow.

What? These these 2 Are you serious?

guys are friends, both friends. Yep. So, uh, this is why I'm constantly shopping for new friends. I'd love to find time for the both of you. We're gonna start tonight at dinner, and I hope it works out.

ugh, what are we gonna have for dinner?

Sushi and pizza, right? Ugh, Wasn't that the request?

Yeah, you know what? I could eat sushi, I could eat sushi Here it comes, in in chunks of twelve pieces, right? So that which would be would be, uh, the buy the dozen.

oh, and then you're gonna Buy say twelve bites, the dozen. sorry, all right, bye everybody. Bye.

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