Linda Cardellini

I'm I'm gonna, I'm trying to read your minds, both of you right now.

Okay, you go ahead.

Right now, okay, I'm sending, I'm zapping you something right now,

Sean, I anticipated that.

and me, I'm thinking of an animal, it's a safari anim- aminal animal.

Hey man, listen, we've talked about drinking before the show, before we've talked about it.

It was a zebra.

You know, I'm gonna give you, let's just this is an all new SmartLess. Jesus, man, enough with the drinking.

Smart, wise, smart, wise, smart, wise.

Oh, Will's enjoying a shake. Hey, Will, uh, handsome place you're in. Is that the new spot in New York?

This is Atlanta. Oh, somebody

went ahead and took care of himself during his work in Atlanta, and he's drinking a shake, cause he's got an on camera job. Okay,

drinking's shake. Well, I've been, this has been part of my, uh, my thing for the last few months now. This, this particular thing I got going all right, that's in here, you want, do you want ingredients?

cool it, but you look great. Okay, so Uh, what have we lay you started?

a base of banana. Sorry, what?

have you started? sh- have you started filming yet?

no. How did the table read go? No great

Quiet chunk? Um, what's up, Will? Have you started working yet?

Sean is actually my nickname. It is, um, uh, it, no, not You're there, not.

there for fittings and rehearsals.

Yeah, table reads, rehearsals, all that kind of stuff

And when do we start campus, we're starting actually rolling?

a week.

Oh my god, are you? Are you excited? You nervous? Very Um,

all of the above, man. Very excited, very nervous, really cool, really excited about the the cast. and and remind This is amazing.

our listener what this is again.

This is, uh, the challenger, um, um, it's a a limited, limited series for Amazon. And, uh, uh, the great Christian Stewart is playing Sally Ride, and the great Christian she's, yeah, Stewart. who's a friend, friend of the pod.

So that was at the challenger disaster. Um, do we all remember where we were?

yeah, I was in. I was 5th grade, right? What year Sean, was it? Will?

did, did, did you still? Do we want?

you're 10th grade.

Let's sh- should we? Just? We'll come back in 5 minutes. When Sean's done with his breakfast.

Sean, what is it, by the way? what is it? What are we having It's a tuna fish tomorrow?

sandwich, and like, who? No, dude, No,

Tuna fish sandwich? it's not even it's It's

not 10 yet, it's nine it's nine, thirty thirty,

in the morning, tuna fish sandwich. In his defense, he's been up up on and off since four. So

right? Um, guys, I've been sick. Thanks for asking. Um, I'm

have you really? just getting over, you have been,

yeah, I'm getting over a, uh, a two or three day, uh, situation. Was a light. It was a light illness and I feel like I'm, uh, I'm on the right side of it now. And oh good, we're just Like a little bit gonna,

of a like, a cold type deal? what? Coughing? Or

yeah, a little little tight throat. You might hear a cough here or there during our time together this morning. I would have Um,

never known from the when we recorded two days ago or whatever, three days ago.

yeah, it was, it was coming on hot. I almost canceled today yesterday, um, but woke up this morning and felt okay. And and fief, no s and I'm.

no fief.

I'm a big fan of our guest today, so you know, I wanted wow, must to sort of true. be Um, I, uh, before we get to her, though, I, uh, I, I did wanna I, I did wanna say, um, that during my illness here, um, I had, uh, some soup. I'm, uh, I'm a big, that sounds big, big soup incredible. fan, um, but then but I mean, I'm this,

so fucking glad this is getting out.

yeah, but um, but now. But I don't feel like I'm as big a soup fan as I was a few days ago, because somebody ruined soup for me. They said to me, Hey, you know, having mushroom soup? and they said, Wha, hey, what is that? is that? uh, is that the bachelor's gravy? So what are you talking about?

The Bachelor's Grave?

Well, cream of mushroom, cream of mushroom's the bachelor's gravy. What are you talking about? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, when you were a bachelor, you didn't just like, heat up cream of mushroom, put it over, uh, chicken breast and stuff like that. Like, no, so what they did for me, they've now classified soup as sauce, and they're right, and they're right. Have you ever thought about that? You're spooning out of a bowl, you're spooning sauce into your mouth, and now I don't think it's fucking yes, that's ruined for me.

no, but that's, but that's true. A lot of soups are like s, like sauces, you Yeah, it's know, or like,

runny sauce. yeah, but, but, but

Yeah, well, certainly, certainly. Creamy soups. if you if you're having or cream a watery

of mushroom.

yeah, if you're having a watery

Well, that's some of my favorite soup is is of course, cream of cream of

it's delish.

tomato and and mushroom. My god,

you look at cream base,

What do you have now? Didn't I once see you chugging hollandaise out of a travel mug? Is it Hm, am I wrong? hm,

that was Sean, that was Sean.

Okay, there we go.

but what about, like, remember, I just had another can of peas last night? Is that, like, my god, like, as a sa, as a snack? weirdest guy I mean, you've

I've ever met.

got, unless I think you told me you have 20 zero cans buried downstairs in the bunker, right? Is that

I do, but Jay, like, that's like pea soup to me, you know what I mean?

no, I get it. So that's yeah, Yeah, yeah, there's another one. Pea soup, cream of cream of pea. Go well, pea soup's slippy, always kind of creamy. slippy, slippy yeah, it's But soup is so good delicious. it's so great, that's it's sauce, and it, I'll tell you, next time, you can't get it out of your head, it's ruined for on your dip you.

of grilled cheese and tomato

Who said to you? who said sauce. to you in the bachelor's gravy? Who said that?

I w- I won't say,

Well, can remember, cause I hate, you know, you gotta consider the source. Remember, we did the, uh, the tour, and that guy was married to yeah, somebody that we know, that you, you guys know. And he said to me, like, Hey, how's your reality show going? That fucking asshole

yeah, yeah. And he was right, remember and then I couldn't that fucking get it out of my guy? He's always got head. It's like,

a s, I know he's always it like, you're right, got a smart fucking remark, and I'm like, Hey, you know what, this guy's a fucking dick. So yeah, consider the fucking source. I said, that goes for everything. I try to do that in my own life, consider the source like, consider the fucking source. yeah, and where it's coming If you like it, you from. On the source like it. And so he says that who gives a shit?

We're, I mean, life, how much we don't we? We're, eh? We're on the back nine here. okay,

yeah, well, why don't you break something real quick?

Yeah, I, do you? I don't know. I. I haven't insured the place yet, so I wanna make sure that I.

Um, but you're right, you're right now. Listen, talk about the source guys. Our guest today is someone I know, I love, I've worked with. She is as kind as she is talented, and she's very, very kind. She's been in your hearts and minds and on your TVs and movie screens for over 30 years. In 1994, she won a fireplace on the prices, right? But things got even better what, for her. Yeah, things

that's cool.

got even better in 97, when she graduated from Loyola Marymount. She started this fantastic career. You've liked her in Step by Step and 3rd Rock from the Sun, but you've loved her in Avengers films, Mad Men, Bloodline, Dead to Me and her latest Emmy winning role in the show. We had weird fake sex in DTF. St. Louis. Folks, it's one of the best. Folks. Linda Linda Cardellini, you Cardellini Wait,

know, you say, Linda, Cardellini, Get it on I'm like, what?

out here, Linda.

Why?

What? Linda, it's so nice Bye. Linda

to meet you. Oh, no Hi, way, Linda. I s

to see you guys.

you can ask Jason. I went on and on and on about you in that show. DTF

yes, he did.

You were just phenomenal.

He never told me, you know, no, of Yeah, it was after course not, of it was after it

course, not. was done. Bumble

and it wasn't, it wasn't Jason Cedric enough. I don't think that movie, Idiot so

we've been enough. But, uh, you know, she's You were just got a big head, you don't wanna incredible. pop that thing, you know? She gets she's, she's it looks bigger too high on than your guys's it, you

right now.

know? Um, but uh, yeah, we are fresh off, uh, um, an incredibly exciting, enormously well deserved Emmy win. Uh, a few nights

oh, congratulations. ago. Yeah, Wow, um, she's, that's great.

Thank you. uh, she and David I know, I

Harbor both won.

didn't even know.

I didn't either.

um, and uh, and and David Harbor won, Steve Conrad won for both writing and directing. Amazing, And and yeah, I mean, it's just, uh, it's Our DP, she's the our DP one, DP, exactly. She our editor, went with her, the incredible. editor. It's, uh, yeah, it's, um, we're gonna talk about DTF, we're gonna, we're gonna start a little earlier, okay, we're that's funny. gonna,

that's a good one.

okay, yeah, yeah, let's go with it, It's one of the let's go with it.

best shows. It's honestly I. I was on the phone with Jason, like an hour or 2 hours after. I sa- it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. and you were very, It's so, it's, very sweet, it's, it's

very sweet.

so gripping and so different, and so, I mean, that's that's what I said to and it's on Jason, like, you,

now, I can look at, I can watch it now.

you can watch it now. You can on HBO,

Maybe I'm kidding. on HBO. No, You know, sorry, I saw it, you yeah, sorry, did

But you know, you try sorry, to find, you try to find, like, new things that you haven't seen. You know, you know, that's the hardest thing. It's coming coming up with a concept that people haven't seen before. And when I watched it, it was so different. And you're like, it, it's just it was just incredible.

yeah. Steve Conrad's an incredibly unique brain voice gifted director, writer, gifted, yeah, the nicest talented. guy, too, Oh my god, yeah, talk he's got about as

it all.

kind as talented. Yeah, um, all right, so here we are. here we Here we are. Hi guys, thanks for having

Linda Cardellini. me. I don't know you. I don't think we've ever met before, likewise, right? Have we ever met Linda? I don't know, I don't You're supposed think so to know that, where. Uh, I Dick know I am. That's why I always I know say, that,

I, I, but it's like, have you been around for a long time? I feel like everybody meets everybody at some point. But

oh well, I've been around a long time. Where, where, where are you from?

I'm from Northern California, in the Bay Area.

oh yeah, in the city in San Francisco. Or like,

No, born in Redwood City, down the peninsula, Oh, wow, I didn't kinda like Stanford University know, sounds area.

so pretty.

you know, they. I just read something that's like the coolest place to live, temperature wise, in all of the country.

In Redwood City, there is an arch, and it says, Climate best by government test. Is that The big thing. Hm, hm,

Huh? But the people in Alaska would take issue with that, with the Sean stat. Well, maybe we're talking continental, maybe we're talking continental Canada, Canada would be or Canadian. No, not cool Canada.

like like most te like temperate, like, just like the best, right? Is that what they're saying?

it's got great weather.

So not too cold, not too cold, not It's not too too hot. hot, not too cold, It's the porridge, colder it's the porridge.

than LA. though, if you're used to LA. which I am, it's it's always like ten degrees colder. Yeah, so

you're so you're up there, so you're, you're in, you're in, you're in NorCal as a kid, and you're thinking, Huh, what should I do? Were you was? Did, did that happen? Like, Acting, that were

sounds easy.

right? But like, were you, were you so young when it? When it struck you that you really weren't thinking about a career? Were you one of those, the one of those turds like me? Or was it was it were you? St- were you already kind of thinking about a career? And then this thing kinda sparked your fancy and you thought, Well, could I make a living in this? When did it start?

I was eleven and there was a teacher who came to our school. She was a new teacher and I was, oh, I'm the baby of 4, so I was like, trying to get attention. Um, and I would always be doing shows, and I was very emotional as a kid, so I didn't know where to put all those things, so I put them in these emotional

wait, wait. What does it look like? shows When you're when in the you say you're very playground. emo emotional, yeah, what does what does that?

that mean?

what does that look like? Are you breaking things at dinner? Cause they didn't, they didn't, they didn't, they didn't try to do what just like felt you wanted, things incredibly deeply. And right?

always, you know, cry at a commercial, you know, very everybody's problems were f. I felt them a million You were a deep times over. And empath. Yeah, yeah, told I was too sensitive. Yeah,

right, and still still to this day, I'll bet kind of a crybaby does in a in a great probably. way, Thank you. Yes, true, right, in a great way. I'll bet you're still a standout, and I bet it makes you a great actor. I mean, I know it makes you a great actor, but is that part I mean, of it?

I think it was the one thing I could feel like, Oh, I could put that there. This is a problem, but it's not a problem in this in this industry, so that will help

so that was part of the thinking. When you started kinda playing around with, you were like, Oh, this is a great way to kinda just, uh, put all get this stuff

it out. over here. Yeah, Yeah, hm, hm,

and so, like, do you cr- you cry easy on camera?

yeah, uh, in life in general,

What are what are some of the triggers? And we're not gonna say anything. them, but just tell I mean, you tell me

me if I feel too deeply, if I get angry, like it, just like that's the 1st thing. But then I realize that it actually, I actually have to do it sometimes. So if I haven't cried in a while, I literally have to do you get it it. So something out, will come along Gotta purge the and make me cry, problems.

release the hounds release.

and then I feel better after that.

so if you were to yell at me, if you were angry at me, you're one of those people that while you're screaming at me, you start crying. Yes, perhaps, That's help, I said, that's helpful for me, you know, I could try cause then, yeah, that'd be helpful. Cause I Because I accuse always get

you, because you're not sure of what you're supposed well. No, to respond, I mean, like, I'm like, how are you supposed to respond getting, I'm getting yelled emotionally? at. I'm, yeah, You're so caught I'm feeling bad, off guard, you don't but then she's crying, know, and now I right? feel like, well, I mean, you're like, maybe the Oh, brain tells me this Yeah, yeah, I have emotional yeah, moment.

upper, I have upper hand. Yes,

this is the moment I will feel yeah, right, this particular emotion.

um, all right. So then what was? what was the 1st? what was the 1st thing you started doing up there? That was like, Okay, well, this is, I don't suck at this.

okay. So this teacher came and she made everybody sing, and so I had to sing. And then I got called in after class and she said, I'd like you to do the play. And it was a Christmas play. And then I think Sean, I was like,

what was the name of it? I'm kidding,

I think she wrote it, she wrote it, it was her. Let's talk And then, about Kenny Rogers, uh,

Kenny Rogers, and playing an elf.

she did this community theater, and I was an old lady in the music man at 11 years old. And

Yeah, Mrs. a giant Perdue stage. And Quiet,

and then I fell in love with it and I was like, Ooh, this is for me. Yeah, all right, And then I didn't know how I would do. It wasn't like anybody in in Northern California's so far away from Southern California in terms of the industry, especially at that time. It was like nobody was doing that for a living. Um, so I didn't know how I would do it, but here I am.

How old were you when you were in that? Eleven. Eleven? Do you remember? Pick a little, tell a little, pick a little, tell a little, jeep jeep,

jeep, jeep, jeep. jeep. I love like, Yeah, and I was very, very, um, tiny. We didn't, like, hit puberty till 16 or so, so I was extraordinarily small. So I was kind of the smallest kid on the stage, dressed like a little old lady, and I stuffed my bra. You know, that's so I did all these things

that's really funny.

for for laughs, and then it worked out.

Yeah, that's great.

and you still sing to this day. Yes,

I do I. I'm asked to sing, so, you know, sometimes in things, and, uh, it's funny to me, cause I'm just sort of an actor who can kinda sing, but not totally

right. So if you were cast in something that, or if you were you, if you were, if, if. If. The great Rick Kertzman called and said, We have a we have an opportunity for you to do, uh, either, uh, a a musical comedy right on on Broadway, or or a or film. That was you wouldn't shy away from that. You say, Oh, yeah, yeah, I can, I can, I can sing, I can act. I mean, you'd like, like, like,

I would love to do that, that I would love to do. how would the really,

how would?

I don't know if I'd be great at it, but I would love to do it.

How would the call go from Rick? Rick's an agent Hey buddy,

for Tracy.

no no, be like this. Uh, hello, Linda, I've got Rick Kertzin calling, and you'd be, Oh, okay, great, yeah, and you go on hold, and what do you? what do you? He's, he's not, you know what's great about Rick? He? He wouldn't start with like, Hey, Cardellini's

no no, he jumped

right in.

no, no. He's an he's a he's an adult and he's classy. And, We love uh, and Rick Hertzman we love Rick Kertzman.

yeah, I love it.

Um, all right, so then

so thin. so then, so then

Okay, so fun.

we gather a little bit of momentum in NorCal and

you could. Do you hate I don't know about this? that, but sure,

Are you hating this? Linda? Is this? Okay,

I'm. So I'm excited to be here. Thanks no, but Jason's, guys.

It's, but Jason, the way that Jason ah, yeah, goes about it is a no, no, we love we love little nauseating. the nauseating, right? I love going I love Jason, down. Yeah, yeah,

you guys. I love, I love him. He's the best hey, you're the best. Okay, so stop then, uh, he's the he is, he's best, so, uh, great. so we, we, That's why I'm we, uh, on here to say he's the best.

but you love them too, all right. next So then you, so page. I love you you strap guys. on the back,

Now that I've met you, I love you strap it.

on the backpack. You start walking down the the Cal, the the um, uh, Pacific Coast Highway, California right? You go down, Incline yeah, down to

it's exciting.

Los Angeles, cause you want it, you wanna make it. And, uh, you, you see the biggest studio in Hollywood that you can f that that you stumble upon there. Coming off the the Pacific Coast Highway is CBS television city. You walk in there and they're doing. The price is right.

that's right.

Oh, wait, you were on the price, right? I used to watch I was that all the on the Price is time. She won She bought a fireplace, a car.

she won a fireplace. Sean

Wait, you were on the price is right. That's Yeah, walk so cool,

us through that. Why? why were you on that? And I bet you've told this story a million times, but we're new.

I nev- this story never gets old to me.

I love it, I don't know it. Please, yeah,

So I was in college and I needed money, of course, and I was like, let's go on the price is right. I also watched that show religiously with

me too. my grandmother back Same same,

in the days of our lives. With and Wheel of Fortune were like our shows. So the idea that you could stand in line all morning long, I mean, you had to get there at crack of dawn, stand in line and wait and possibly be on the show was a dream come true. So we went with, you know, we all ditched class and there was eight or ten did you have of us.

t-shirts on that that would've been sort of like a pick me, pick me?

Well, in a way, they told us that you should either wear your college shirt or your, um, like a solid color, so I wore a solid green shirt. And, uh, funny enough, like in my hair, if you look closely enough at the I have, like the drama masks, and it's like, a company Oh, is that hair? executive in the Yeah, that's the scalp, kind. Yeah, like I had like a clip with the drama your hair masks in it.

tie. No, Linda, I know, right?

God bless.

Uh, so that's how excited I was about theater.

and where did you skip school? where? I'm s. I missed that. Where did? Where were you going to school at this LloyL LLOYD point? MARIAMOUTH Oh, Lloyd, no, sorry, go ahead.

So I came down to LA. to be an actor under the guise of school. And yeah. And you're studying then

drama, though, you graduated with a drama degree from

eventually, yes, it took me a long time cause I started working.

sure, and you get distracted, you know, all right, but wait, so you're sitting in the audience

No, no, so, like, you have to go through this huge line. And we were with all these people and we were with this guy and they were really talking to this guy that we know. And he was like, yucking it up with them. And I was like, Oh, Jeff's gonna get on the Price is right, and we're not gonna get on the Price is right. Fuck Jeff, So then they scattered us all Jeff of the around, like

Jeff of the G. Sorry, just

nothing, a jet.

yeah, of course.

And then when they said, come on down, you know, they sat us all separate from each other, so nobody was sitting next to each other. Because there were so many of us. And then they called my name, pronounced it incorrectly, but I didn't care. And

How do you pronounce it? then Carden Cardellini Cardellini? go Yeah, but now, so that's just a random. They, what do they do? They kinda interview you as you're walking in to know whether you've got, you've got spunk or not, right? It's yeah, I it. guess so

yeah. But isn't it true, though, like the stage where they film it is so much smaller than you think? Like, because I walked Oh boy, down there a long time, I walked down there a long time ago. I walked

sorry. Sean's still in awe of Showbiz. He can't believe we just told him that Tatooine's not a real a real planet. Go ahead, Sean. what? I know,

I know, I know I really am. Was blown away. I was like, Wait, so the big wheel that you spin and everything fits on such a small stage, and the camera angles just make it look like it's huge. Is that right? And so I will say, wait, I'm

though, the noise level of people screaming that huge. you're an idiot cause you don't know the price of something that cannot be. That cannot be felt through the television.

there's a lot of smack talk there.

That, in real life, is yeah, fuck enormous, that you, what are you is people

fucking now? screaming at you, It'd be so

yelling at you.

it'd be kind of funny to do right now. Is prices, right? And just have the The contestants contestants be some of these oligarch billionaires, you be know? And just some of these oligarch and just, and then just billionaires, you do things. But know? And the price they have to do is like, price it like a loaf just of bread or something. They go a million do dollars. it, No sense, Yeah, they're so yeah, you know, stick old of butter.

I, I don't yeah, know, ten grand, what's a yeah, stick of butter? yeah, Ten grand?

and we will be right back.

and now back to the show.

Okay, so they, so they, so they mispronounce your name, and holy shit, you shoot oh, the up out of the chair. bit, the greatest Yeah,

feeling of all time. Like, I actually compare anything great that happens to me to the moment my name was called in the price is right. Cause that moment of being Oh my god, chosen by that show at that moment in my life was the most present feeling of jubilation I have ever.

and let me ask you a question, uh, just a few nights ago, was that the 1st night your name has been called yeah. Oh, the Emmys, since you were sitting in that chair?

My own specific name like that, yes, same and it was a prices, right, very similar feeling, except for that I worked for that one, you know? So it was like, right, right. And and then,

tell me about the moment when your name is called to the to. What's going through your head as you're walking up to the stage? Hm, This is on Price well,

is right, or the Emmys, oh, at the Emmys,

well, Sean, as you pointed out, it's a short walk, cause it's so much smaller. When you get right, there, you go,

the Emmys looked bigger, actually, to me, the Emmys, that staircase was you're right, long.

right. But but but on Price is right, you got a short, short jaunt down there. You're pumped, right? All your friends are screaming for I mean, you,

I'm hugging strangers, I'm jumping up and down like I am.

you're tightening your hair tie. Yep,

And what did you bid on that got you up from the down there? On the great question. okay, so thing?

I was okay. 1st of all, when you get picked, they give you instructions. I mean, back in a million years ago, they gave you instructions, which was the camera finds you and you run down to they do that the or you walk snap zoom, down, or you do whatever.

yeah, snap zoom on you as you get up. Yeah,

and so then I just started running and jumping. And then in the middle of it, I realized I'm supposed to be s running, you know, waving my hands. So same, then I'm running down the aisle, waving my hands,

oh my god, I can't wait do, yeah, to d dig like a like it up. Yep,

a moron, and then hugging a stranger, jumping up and down.

so you get down there, you got four

I'm I get down there, stalls, I'm terrible, terrible. Do not know the price of anything. I'm totally nervous, am awful at the game.

so you so you missed what? Two or three?

Oh, als- I was the it was, I think you get what? Six tries, there's six people, they call, but I was called up in the 1st 4 and I was so awful at it. And so it took to the very last, uh, the very, very last.

oh my god, it was a sweat. Yeah,

Yeah, the last opportunity.

yeah. And what was the, uh, what was the item?

It was a gas fireplace.

Okay, and so you've been on that and you won,

I, yes, I had. My friend was in the audience and she yelled to my friend Molly, it was like, It's your last chance, Cardellini. And I thought, hunkered Oh my god, I'll never,

down, right?

cause once you're on, you can't be on again. And I thought, Oh my god. If I don't get to spin that wheel, if I don't get to talk to Bob Barker, this is it.

So then what was the game when you got up there with Bob?

Oh, it was awful. It was some game that had no kitsch to it. It was

Nothing?

pick a price and then just subtract that price from a dollar, and it was like it was all math. It wasn't like a yodeling person Yeah, the Swiss or a dice.

mountain, the Swiss mountain with the goat, it was nothing, the goat that goes over the cliff. no bling, no, it Yeah,

was just add and subtract. You know, like there's like four great games, and there's two that are kind of like, meh, yeah.

cause they're running short on time or something.

And then I didn't understand it cause I was so overcome. And I had looked at Bob Barker. He's like, Do you understand what you're doing? and I was like, No. And then they he's like, explain it again, and so they explained it again. When the lights went down, he turned to me, he goes, just nod your head and say yes, kid. And I was like, Okay, was he ever so I just nodded

looking right?

my head and said, yep. And then I was terrible at the game, I lost. And it was a black lacquer bedroom set that I could have won,

it would've gone great with a gas fireplace,

which I had already had, cause it was the 90s.

right? Okay, so then you didn't get to spin the wheel, um, but your friends I did spin must have been,

the wheel, I did, and I got $0.90. Hey, that's But it didn't matter,

pretty good.

cause the woman in front of me got a dollar. Yeah,

wasn't your day, it was not your day.

and it clearly was not my day. It was partially my day, but not totally my day. all right. So

now go back to the Emmys. My question about when your name is called and you're walking down the aisle, what's going through your head as you're walking up to the stage?

Oh my god, this just really happened, Yeah, like, that it it's surreal, so it just did, like, Oh my god, this is really happening. Like it, it sort of is. It was just sort of out of body, you know? And then also just, it was so great, cause Jason and Amanda and Steve, and, you know, David, they were all sitting right in the front, and and Richard, they were all sitting right there. So I could see you guys.

So it felt like that kept it like a real moment instead of being so

But as an, as an, as an actor, as you s as you were walking up the stairs, did you? Did you immediately start thinking about your speech and basically your lines? Like, Oh God, I don't wanna forget my lines. I got like, were, did you have something prepared? and d were you starting to think about that, like how you were? Ba- Cause? I would just imagine that y- as you go up there and as you turn at the podium, it's effectively like you're going on camera there.

And just as actors, we're trained like, Okay, now it's go time, like, you know, it's, uh, time to talk and kinda get it all together. Or were you able to, like, kind of just be present and just be raw, or what? What was that like,

Well, I had somebody made me write it down, so like, you have to write something down. So I, like, wrote it in my phone because I didn't wanna have to wear glasses, and I needed the font to be big cause now I have to wear glasses. And so I had it on my phone and I was gonna try to read it. And then when I got there, I just wanted to be there and I wasn't really.

I'm not great at speeches, it's not my thing

me neither. at all. Like, Yeah,

I'm great if somebody writes something, not, I'm not great. I won't say that I'm. I can do it if somebody writes something for me.

and we're actors.

But when it's when it's, uh, my own personal self, I never feel like it's enough. Like, I have this thing where I have a lot of thank you cards in my drawer and I don't actually send them. Cause I feel like it's never enough of what I wanna say. So I have a I have a block with a speech, so I know that got up there and I just felt like

you were awesome.

I kind of wanted to. Just number one, say my parents like that was my biggest dream was to be able to say thank you to my parents. And both of them had been kinda not feeling well recently, and they're older, so I was just wanted that to be the number one thing. So I figured if I get that out in my family, then at least I've got that. You guys would all understand if I forgot something.

yeah, that's the big

fear, right? You forget to thank someone, so you think, well, maybe I shouldn't thank anybody. Then, you know,

too many people to cover.

it did, and it doesn't ever. It didn't go the way I thought it would go, and I was really overwhelmed and my hands were shaking and I that's I feel like I should

just natural. Can you imagine be. if you were calm and together up there, that from here? I mean, people do Yeah,

that, I'm, I've, that's amazing to me how people can be super calm I know, and nonchalant. I, I just had none of that and it was a little embarrassing. But as I was walking up, when you were saying, What are you thinking about? I was like, don't fall and don't cry. And then, of course, I was shaking and crying. So, you know, it's like you, but that's kind of, you know, at the end of the day, it's like those moments where something is totally unexpected or undiscovered, messy.

and those feelings are messy. And

yeah, it's what we want when we're watching, you know, and right?

you want it to feel real.

that, to me, is like the great joy of being alive, you feel present. So it was like, I sort of just tried to, I mean, I walked off stage and I was like, Oh God, what did I Well, you were amazing say? And then

up there. I thought, Well, And yeah,

I'm, I'm lucky I got to say it.

Was that your 1st nomination?

No, it was my 4th, but 1st win, 1st win. so great and so

I can agree. You have a couple grand. Yeah, Sean, right? Well, I mean, I don't the accolades know if it's and the I've lost, stopped counting, Jesus, yeah, I don't know. go ahead, Sean,

How many? Someone? How many? you walk the camera, I see one in the walk. background there, Yeah, that's I know it's

just the one.

so stupid. It's like, just put s it's not like, just put Gunter stupid. out, all right, so uh, but um, so you got, so what were Oh, you the other ones? what flustered him, you was? what was flustered him. No, the one? what was the one that you got nominated for? That? You were like, I probably have a good chance at this, and you didn't. None, none, I don't, Oh, really,

I'm not that person. So it's like, Um,

but you're proud of. You have to be proud of some I'm of your work. You so proud of should be. Yeah, everything. I mean, I'm yeah, yeah,

proud that I even get to do it for a living, to be honest. So it's like, you know, like, we get to do something that peop- like you play at as a child, and I you get to know, I know, continue it as a job. That's unreal, you well, you're so damn know?

good at it. And and and having done it for so long. And and to be still going stronger than you've ever gone. And you were d doing fricking great work and super strong momentum with your career even early on. So it's it's just awesome that you're still like ascending and like, it's better than I. I just, I think it's, it's, it's, it's pretty awesome. I I. I revisited Freaks and Geeks a while back, um, and it just looking at you there, like, oh yeah, that was I mean, you looked great.

like you were freaking

So good.

twelve years old, um, but you were I. I. I just looked it up this morning, you were 22 on that. I mean, talk about playing young, my God, I can't believe you were 22 and playing. Yeah, that was, and how old like,

were you on? Step by step,

God, younger than that, but I don't know. Yeah, that was like all right,

a long time ago. When Jason said that in the intro, I was like, step by step, I was, I, What was step I mean, cause by step? I that

don't remember that.

was Suzanne Somers.

that was Suzanne Somers and Pa- uh, Patrick, um,

Pa- uh, yeah, that guy, yeah, Patrick, what's his name? Patrick Duffy, Duffy, Duffy. Yeah,

that show. So I had to play, I was there was a time where I played like plucky tomboy friends a lot on sitcoms and it was live audience. And I had to play somebody who was a pool shark, basically, like somebody who's real cool, who's a bad influence on on Stacey's character. And they had a pool shark. Teach me how to hit this shot, and so I had to bank, I had to hit three balls and bank them and then get it in in one go.

And it was in front of a live audience. And I practiced and practiced and practiced, and then I nailed the shot. And that was also very much like a price is right moment. Where I was like, Yes, the audience, yeah, it was really fun, that's it was very like a. It was like a sports moment, you know, like sometimes in our job, we get a sports moment.

Yeah. What are those things on your resume that when, as you were growing up through the business, that you had to? Just like, Yeah, I can, like Jason was saying earlier, cause I wrote like, Yeah, I can do horseback riding and do you just? I like, can bou- I can bounce a tennis bra- uh ball on a racket to 250 consecutive times. Like, so I did you c- I can break

ever have to do any of those things?

no no, but I mean, that was on your like,

resume? Yeah, I could, probably He had

I could. put special skills, When was that coming well, it was just

out?

basic, basic, great b ball skills, I think, is what it said.

What is that? S ball skills. But What

did you ever have to have any other kind of skills that, like other than singing? would w would Yeah,

write on there, like skateboarding, or, you know, and it would be moderately good, you know, not even really good at it. I just dabbled at it and then yeah, yeah, for you would, and if anybody ever called you on it, it was

And then I put, like, terrible. and then I put,

fluent in Esperanto? yeah, I That's what I would put at put on my

the bottom. I'm like, accents I can do Southern, British, and like, I couldn't do any of them. Yeah,

well, let me see your, let's hear your southern accent. nah, Real quick, Sean,

I can't.

I would love no, I want British 1st, do your

I'm kidding.

slate in your southern accent. Yeah, I

used to do, by the way, you can't see it, but on video. I used to do this in commercial auditions. You know how you'd say your name, you'd slate your name, and you say, Hi, I'm Sean Hayes. And they'd want you to do profiles, so you turn right and then you turn left, right? Cause they wanna see what you look like on camera on the side. So I would do this, I'd go, Hi, I'm Sean Hayes, and I'd go like this, and then I'd go like that.

Like I was completely deformed on one on one side, side, but you couldn't tell if you were looking straight at.

oh my god, all right. So, uh, talk about, uh uh, faking stuff on your resume. Did you put at the bottom of your resume that you are fluent in medical terminology? To get the gig on ER? When, oh, boy, oh, over there at ER, an incredible show that was already up and running and was a huge hit. Going onto that show, was that intimidating, walking into that, to that structure,

yeah, that was huge.

I was, I was just excited. They were, you know, they sent me these episodes of. I had a meeting and I was, I was meeting with John Wells. And it was for, uh, different shows. And they were talking about different parts they had on different shows. At the time, I think there was West Wing on at the time and ER on the time. And they were talked about this part. And she was a nurse who had a young son.

And I had been playing, you know, I, I looked very young, and I had been playing sort of really young people. So I thought, Oh, here's a single mother, like, I haven't done that at all. And um, they sent me these episodes where Noah and Goran and Makai, their characters, went to Africa and they shot these these episodes in Africa. And I was just it was unlike anything I had seen on TV at the time. And I thought, Oh my god, this is beautiful and what these actors are incredible and this writing is so amazing.

And it's a procedural, but I'd never seen anything like that happen on a procedural. And they were taking it, you know, just to just. The stakes were so high. And so I went in for a meeting and, uh, Jonathan Kaplan, who's a great director, was in there and a bunch of people. And we had such a nice meeting and it was such a lovely group of people. Um, and I was meant only to stay for a year, cause I was kind of just sort of.

I had come off Scooby Doo and I had had some s that I just wanted to sort of stay in. I had been traveling a lot and I was like, Okay, I'll stay. And I was, I think my contract was like a year, and then I just loved it there. I stayed and stayed and stayed,

that must have been, uh, and those you must have thought,

are some of my friends.

great having do, like, did, did you see Noah the other night at at I at the Amie?

did, I did. It's so great what's Yeah,

going on with him right now? It's Yeah, you're so f so like, cool, good, right?

it's fantastic.

uh, um, um, uh, d. Jason, you, you, you touched on it. But I actually, I always think I get stressed out when I would watch ER. And see, uh, all these actors, uh, spitting out all these medical terms. Hm, And and like, a, hm, a, and really quickly and really offhand and and yeah, delivered so brilliantly. And with in these long things that I think, like, fuck, man, I would be so stressed out trying to remember that, trying to get it right.

Did you ever have hm, those moments? you'd be terrible hm. at it, I mean, yes,

you know, you'd be good at it, you're good but at, you're we did a lot great at it.

of wonders back then, too, so it was if you were at the end of the wonder with some kind of medical terminology. Oof, that was like 3 minutes of, like, a shot going through. I mean, the whole set was already pre and then it gets lit, to you, and then it gets to you. And you're like, meningitis, pneumonia, and you say it wrong, you're you just ruined the whole yeah, yeah, that's thing. And I'm

how I started. like, ugh, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

so, but it was fun, it was really fun, and we did a lot of wonders, so it felt sort of like theater in that way. So it was really, it was great, we had so much fun.

Are you good with line, with memorizing lines like that? Like, just in general? Sometimes the hard Yeah,

part about, I will say, the hard part about, uh, that show, specifically because it's medical, was there's sort of, like, I had never, you know, people come up to you as an actor, it's like, how do you memorize all those lines? And you're like, Oh, I just do it like you don't, really. It's not the thing you think about. 1st, right? That was the 1st time I thought, Oh, how do I do this? Because it is.

There are numbers that are seem arbitrary to me. Somebody's blood pressure memorizing, you know, whatever that is, I don't even realize what's a good or bad blood pressure really. But to those numbers, that counts, the the choreography counts, and it's really specific. So there's like, sort of different levels of memorization on a medical show that I didn't realize that was a thing. There's choreography, there's sort of like numbers that make that have no emotional connection to remembering anything.

And then,

did they have medical experts right there with whomever was directing that particular episode to make? Yeah, yeah,

yeah, which I'm a little bit of a hypochondriac, so those poor guys had to hear about everything I ever had. I was like, What is this? is this? same what is this spot? same,

Um, just touching on DTF, uh, really quickly again, h- how about learning those lines? Was that? Was that difficult for you? Cause Steve writes in such a beautifully specific way, you kind of want you wanna honor that, and you don't wanna mangle it up. Like, I know, David and I, you know, running lines together, all the scenes he and I had together, uh, w- you know, we just run it and run it and run it and try to try to get as specific as we could.

You, yeah, oh yeah. Remember yeah,

we would look at each other and be like, I have an eight pager tomorrow, no, I know, which typically shouldn't be that much. But because the way he writes, I mean, the the I think the thing about it, like, even listening to you and watching you in it, Jason, it looks so it looks so normal. And like, you're just in conversation. And it goes back and forward and pauses and going to an idea and then jumping to another idea.

But that's all written, none of that is improvised. so that's,

that that that's what I asked Jason.

yeah, that's the way he writes. Like, usually, we as actors are just looking at a block of dialogue and it's up to us to put in the ellipses and and find the the rhythm changes, et cetera, et cetera. Steve actually writes those in just based on punctuation and and, uh, just structure and and and whatnot. And so it's that's you sort of have to, kind of, m uh uh, uh, back into that, uh, to some extent.

Um, and it's a different, it's a different way to work. And it was super challenging, um, for me at the start, uh, but um, I really kinda got into a rhythm with it. And, uh, you know, you, you, the reason I'm asking you is cause, yeah, we were in a ton of scenes together, but our scenes didn't have a l these long dialogue scenes. We had one, I think, that had a a really long speech, I think I had to give, um, but Yeah, you had like, most that one about of Canada.

right, what your most of your long stuff was with was with Richard and Joy, right? And and with David, um, but anyway, uh, yours, yours obviously we had was just

a couple in the bedroom scenes. where I'm talking about insurance Yeah, that's true, and that's true. Yeah,

Yeah, I don't remember those bedroom scenes at all. I'm kidding, uh, yeah, um, so all but no, right, so then,

it's great. It's juicy the way he writes. I mean, I think, cause he's a musician, it almost feels like music in

that's true.

a way. And if you talk to Steve it for 2 seconds, it just seems you just hear the rhythm. I remember meeting him in the 1st meeting and thinking, Oh, that's what the rhythm is, cause I could listen to the way he spoke. and a halting, And it's it is in his voice in some ways.

did you read for it? was it an offer to you? or, like, how did you get I auditioned, the job? You auditioned? I flew Yeah,

myself to New York and I auditioned.

it's pretty cool.

that's rad.

Yeah, great, great story. Yeah, it's a really great It'd be pretty funny story.

if Steve Conrad, when he spoke, he said, all the the punctuation out loud, is that sufficient? That would yeah, like, Blah, blah, be when, blah, blah period, ellipses. On the other hand, comma, space. I was new paragraph, yeah, we'll be right back,

and back to the show.

all right. So then, um, Brokeback Mountain happens before or after Mad Men.

what year, Sean?

Uh, that was, I'll tell you right now, it was, I'll tell you right now, it was 2005 or six.

Okay, we'll have our fact checkers I was doing review.

ER when I did that.

While you were doing Brokeback, Yeah, d w- Am

I right? What did the year? Linda? What? Do you remember? I What year? No,

mean, you would know better than I no, Willie, do. knows, I'll bet you

I'll look it up.

then. When was M, when was Mad Men?

Mad Men was, I think, around 2012, cause I just had a baby.

Oh, Linda, you were s. You were great on Mad Men. You were so good on Mad Men. I loved that. Uh, yeah, so Despite good.

getting over the hurdle of working with John Hamm, how did you? how did you navigate?

how did you do that? how'd you deal you know, with the ham sandwich every day?

He directed, too, it was great. oh, Jesus, Oh, Christ,

um, but boy, did you power through that? Look at ooh, you, huh? You landed on your feet, um, you land on your feet, you go right into the Avengers. Sean, Sean

yeah, I may. Connery's I may. Yeah, I don't know the Avengers as as well with Scotty. Does Scotty.

hey, hey, um, what was that like? Like, getting a getting a call for that? Um, uh, uh, what, uh, I don't know. I would be like, uh, uh, uh, stunned if I was, uh, invited to be a part of a Marvel film. What would you? What

that's huge.

would you?

it was fun. And especially cause I show up and I'm in there with everybody. It's she's like a secret character, then she's, they come to her house and so it's all the Avengers are there. So it's kind of nice. Cause sometimes when you come into something that's a big production with a lot of different people, you only work with one or two people. But I every time I went there, I was in with with everybody, so it's that's pretty fun.

And did you have to deal with those goddamn Russos on that one? Yeah, They were great, oh my god, nightmare, they were great. jeez, I mean, was there people nightmare. you have managed to? Christ. Oh, um, Joan all right,

and Aunt Joan and Aunt Joan.

Joan and aunt, um, all right. And then, and then we go to Bloodline. Yes,

Maybe, I mean, I don't know the chronon, I I, it's all I mean, a big

I think Avengers was after Bloodline, really, that al- also a great one,

yeah, I mean, well, talk, Bloodline. talk a little bit about working with that cast. Kyle Chandler, Ben Mendelsohn, ugh. Jessica, S, Spacek, Sam Shepard. Um, what was, what

Sick cast. was? Yeah, un It's unreal, like it unbelievable.

just was. Every time someone else got cast, you're like, Oh, this is amazing, I can't wait to get up Can I just there.

Yeah, tell you something? As an aside? Can I just say I, uh, I love that, Kyle Chandler? who you were enjoying doesn't? Everybody, Right? men, women, children, I they all I love that love him. dude. reunited

with the great Chris Mundy on, Uh, on Lanterns, you watching Lanterns, Willie Uh, I'm not, get on it,

I'm not.

get on it. I gotta Great show.

get on it. Yeah, this guy, our, uh, uh, James Hawes, directed that, uh, who I'm working with now. Yeah, it's doing very, very I heard it's great, well. I hear it's great. Kyle's always good, he's

so good.

he is, he is an incred- and talk about a nice guy.

God, Yeah, Kyle. CH- Yeah, Um, okay, and then, he's like a rich, he's like a rich man's Jason Bateman, you know what I yeah, mean, you know what I mean, you know what I mean? Sorry, anyway, Linda, so Linda,

that is, that is a little so that we just uh, spenders finance.

that's a fact, and now we're moving so then on.

we, then we go over, One time we

my daughter, we were in Florida, we were shooting that, and we were on, uh, a a boat. And my daughter had this wand and she accidentally dropped it. She was tiny, she dropped it into the ocean, and Kyle jumped into the ocean, swam and retrieved it for her. And Yeah, of course, I had never seen. I was like, that is the hero worship that everybody has for that's a dad. Yeah, amazing. yeah, same

would you, would would you guys ever do that? I you, w- uh, would you think to take your shoes off before you do that? Cause that's the key, Jason. you're gonna, Yeah, that You're already is,

thinking about taking your shoes off before you got, you even take you got, them off.

though, that's how you sink. If you don't take your shoes off jumping into the water, I'm not you can't stay

worried about sinking. afloat. I'm telling

you, I'll bet, but I bet you Kyle kicked through that, I especially bet you kicked

in the ocean. through it. Yeah, He can That's the only

do whatever he wants.

he was, of course, already swimming and fishing and doing stuff that you know, Yeah, yeah, but oh

yeah, well, he wasn't in a tuxedo, it wa- you, you know, but. But remember he was on that? Uh, his 1st big thing was, uh, uh, Friday night early Edis- early live. edition. It was a CBS show where he'd get the newspaper the day before and he knew what was gonna happen the day before. Right?

yeah, you bet on the ponies,

I'm gonna bring that back. It's a good idea.

all right. So then we go across the street

I like that.

with Christina Applegate over to Dead to me, right? Dead to Oh yeah, Jack me. Dead to me, May you're dead uh, a to me a great show went went on for years. Uh, uh, great accolades, a great audience with her old friend for that, Christina Applegate, with her the great Christina

yeah, it was great. Christina Applegate.

Um, so, I mean, at this point, are you thinking, do you have any any time to sort of pat yourself on the back? And look back at that moment where you know, Hey, I was this little girl doing, uh, what, what, what? What was the musical theater show Shawnee she was doing at eleven?

yeah, uh, uh, uh, sweet charity.

Sweet charity? I'm the girl that did Sweet Charity, and now I'm on, uh, job number

Oh you. X. That's I thought you meant the one that Yeah, Chris Linda was

do you have sweet charity?

on. No, she was on. No, Linda was bye bye birdie.

No music man.

Oh no, no, no, sorry, bye music man, sorry,

yes, music man, and you're thinking back, what in the uh, fuck is happening? you I thought you know, it seems

meant, I thought you meant like just Chris Evans. yesterday. I love I was your that you guys age.

are pretending you were there when I was eleven, watching it in the audience.

What is going on?

I mean, uh, do do, uh. Do you have any time to look back to the the remember? W- walking down the Pacific Coast Highway with that backpack on, going down to Los Angeles, trying to make it big? Like you done good, Linda,

I really did. Literally rip one of those things off of a telephone pole, you know, those phone number things where it's like, be an extra. I really literally for an extra, did that when I came You did to LA. Yeah,

what? What, what?

what were you in an extra in anything big?

oh my god, you guys. I was an extra in. I didn't know what, like, union or non union meant, and I was a teenager still, and I was maybe 17, 18, just got here and probably 18. And I was an extra in a movie that turned out to be kind of, um, one of those movies where everybody takes their clothes off, but I there we didn't know. go, And it was like a late night cable kind of thing where women were in jail and then they got sold into prostitution.

I bet we'll see And then, that. um, but I didn't realize. So I showed up at the jail by myself in downtown LA. Like some closed down part of it and was an extra. And there was like 40 girls my age there, and we were in these short little shirts. And we had to sit in this jail cell for 12 hours. But there was like, no food, no real heat. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't like a union job, so they didn't really take lots great care of moisturizer, of you.

Yeah, no, it wasn't that bad, it wasn't that bad. It was like on the roads, yeah, but not that. all right. So that

was an extra, you, an extra in So, anyways, that.

yes, I do sometimes think about, I'm happy I didn't have to keep ripping those things off the telephone pole,

yeah, you're killing it. Fresh off the stage at the Emmys. Now you got this new show coming on, an A24 show on Peacock called Crystal Lake. It's a prequel to the Friday

wait, you were in that.

the 13th. Yeah, she plays Pamela Voorhees.

Ooh, I can't wait to see that.

Yeah, tell us about that.

wait wait, what? Yeah, yeah, man, Chris, I don't know like, Friday, the anything about this.

13th, remember, Friday the 13th? yeah, prequel, prequel,

the mother's the original killer, the whole Wait, 1st movie sort you don't play the of operates. Like a whodunit. mother, I do

you play the mother. What remember in the was it? Yes,

1st one, when Betsy Palmer comes out and she's like, you're a nice son, so that's, yeah, hm, hm. So it's a backstory to Pamela Voorhees, Pamela, which then, of course, is, you know, it's Jason's story, everything's about Jason, so it's his story, but it's, uh, seen through her.

um, re reminds me of, uh, for any of the listeners that haven't heard this story. My, uh, my, my most cringy/most proud Halloween costume I ever put together was Jason Bateman. Whereby I put a hockey goalie mask on my face and then hung a net over my body and tied fishing lures to it for the bait, man part.

uh huh. that's this is Okay, and and great.

I was, uh, I was She's the one, just so excited to tell everyone on on on Halloween, what, The men shaking what? Hey, guess what, my

the baby. We need, like

costume is? the Legs Avenue A fucking

version of that, where it's sexy. douchebag? Yeah,

Oh God, with a pocket full of white, making runs to the bathroom stall. sure, yeah, hey, She's man,

I do the hockey mask,

just what I am. Oh, the God, worst.

Crystal Lake, when's Crystal Lake coming out? I'm excited. Is it out yet? Probably it's already not

out, cause that today's November 2nd. No, Willie, come on, you're so good with dates, Willie, come on. Um, now, are you a fan of horror? and if you weren't, are you now?

I used to love horror. I mean, I really loved

Then what hap? Yeah, what happened? horror, right? Was that Then

what we're saying? I think I got So, while you're talking,

s scared of life, and then I, I, I was a little less, uh, a horror lover. No, um, I, I liked it a lot growing up, like it was really some of my favorite

she probably went and saw stuff. Friday the 13th when it was out. Yeah,

and I s. I remember seeing Freddie versus Jason in the movie theater at Universal City Walk, and it was wild.

but what about? what about working? what about? You probably saw Carrie? I just watched Carrie the 1st time in a Sissy long time. And then Spacek The you worked with Sissy Spacek. best I mean, is, wasn't that she is number wild?

one, she is the nicest, most wonderful human being. and she loves

questions about Carrie, I'll bet.

Oh, she's so good, that performance is so, I mean, she's

yeah, she's incredible. just she's What about Raggedy

just the best. I can't man? Remember say enough amazing

Raggedy man?

things about Sissy Spacek. I love her so much and I think she is exquisite.

Wait, tell me some more horror things you love,

Um, I loved the Shining.

love the shining. Shining's incredible, Shining's

I used to watch that to, incredible. like, kinda like, unwind, and now I'm, I don't know how I did that.

Yeah, did you ever see the outtakes or the like, the making of behind the scenes of the Shining? Some of it, yes, You? It's

I wanna see that.

interesting, really. Oh, it's fascinating. With Shelley Is it on Duvall. No,

Netflix?

I don't know. uh, I don't know. You've probably got to see it on YouTube.

Yeah, I guess I just put

Oh, really.

in the old search thing, right? It'll tell me where it is, right. And old granddad over here needs help, all right now. So you, uh, so you jump, you, you jump over another hurdle in your upcoming th uh show called Way of the Warrior kid. That Chris Pratt, that what year Chris Pratt,

was that?

yeah, the Chris Pratt, um, how did you? how do you? how do you do something like that? That that seems like maybe the toughest. No, I know him we love from a while back, this.

and then we were in Guardians of the Galaxy. He I play like a character in the 3rd one, so we've known each other a little bit. It was fun, it was really now that's fun.

coming up on Apple TV. Tells Apple TV about the Way of the Warrior kid.

Way of the Warrior Kids. This book written, uh, by Jocko Willink, about sort of this kid getting bullied, and his uncle, who's a Navy seal, sort of helps him with these like tenants that they learn as as seals. And sort of gets him through feeling bullied. And, uh, this kid who I play, played by Jude Hill, who's such a great actor, um, and, uh, I play his mom and kind of Chris's quirky little s like sister.

So,

where'd you shoot that?

uh, we shot that in LA. I think, yeah, LA.

Oh, lucky you do you? Do you think about that? Do you think about locations when you, I do when you pick a job? a lot. Yeah, Yeah, how are you? how are you doing with fame? Like, you know, um, w- you know, I'm sure you get stopped, have been getting stopped for years on the on the on the road. But i it's, it's, it's happening, probably even more and more and more. And um, are you comfortable with that?

is your family comfortable with that? um, or do you kinda keep a pretty low profile?

I am a low profile kind of person in general. Like, that's probably why I don't like I, I don't go out tons. I, you know, I'm sort of, um,

yeah, you'd like to nest,

I just said, that's me, you know? But, uh,

I like to nest.

I, yes, I mean, I, I, I do. I definitely get noticed at times, and that is people are generally pretty generous and kind.

nice. Yeah. Nobody's gonna walk up to you and go, I hate your work. Well, you Yeah, know, you never know, yeah,

but uh, or like, Oh, you look this, you look more this on camera, which is like, sometimes is that a? sometimes yeah. Sean would probably I

say, Boy, you look so much bigger on camera,

yeah, like something like that, you know, you're like, Oh, uh, but you know, I've been very lucky. I've done a lot of things that b- people have liked over the years, so they're kind about them, you know, especially now. It's it's a funny thing, though, because back when I did, let's say, Scooby Doo, the recognition, even though the movie had a big the. I was sort of costumed and I could stand right next to the poster and nobody paid attention, right?

And it was really great. And and meanwhile, my, you know, I, I sort of just I kinda go under the radar, which I love, cause I just like that. But now those kids have grown up and they've seen me so much that I get recognized more for that now than I did back then. But the recognition is interesting, it ebbs and it flows, and it's it's I have a pretty, um, I have a. I have a really the best of both worlds Do you ever time.

get recognized for freaks and geeks, you know? Cause like, I wonder, like, you know, you look at like, Seth and Jason on that, like, you can't real. And I mean, James Franco kind of looks the same, but, uh, but like s Seth and Jason, like a a and and you, different people. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's pretty amazing. Um, Seth is completely unrecognizable. well, he was only Um, 17, he was a right, kid.

God, isn't that amazing? unbelievable What are you doing on sets? Because you work? What a career you've had, by the way, it's just incredible. Thanks.

that's insane.

and and just getting started, it Yeah, and seems. But it's what are you doing just like,

in your trailer? In like, w- to kill the time, do you like, knit? Do you like? A lot of people I know, like, take something to do, you know, cause there's so many yeah, what's the sneaky hours.

little? Um, what are you? Are you like a closet crossword? um, fiend? I like a Wordle, are you? you and you like a

David and I are on our Wordle word? Oh, exactly, thing. Um, I, um, I don't know. I like people, I'll just sit and talk to people. That's oh, that's really kind of the oh, okay, good, thing like good, I could, I need better hobbies, but, But so uh,

wait, you'll just walk up on a stranger and ask them, Uh, hey, that's a fun sweatshirt, tell me about that. Or s, or like, sometimes sure, really, uh-huh, you gotta,

why not?

why not?

I like people like, I really do, I do too. Yeah,

Which? Which means you like playing them, right? Do you like d? Are are you playing other people? or are you playing versions of yourself? We've talked to actors about this before, like, what, what? I don't wanna get into, like, a boring process conversation, but do you do you like, uh, what do you? If I were to say, you gotta pick between two reasons why you like acting, you playing other people or playing versions of yourself. And exploring kind of the the borders of of of who Linda is to you,

other people.

other people, right? Morphing into I mean, which somebody else.

inevitably has yourself in it, because you're only yourself. But, uh, but hopefully, and which is sort of what I tried to do is just try to play as many different versions or people of my I can.

well, yeah, and and and DTF. Just like Wa- just watching the whole thing and being blown away and watching you like, Wow, just as the character. I'm like, Whoa, she's rough, you know, man, w- you know, it's not a very likable character at 1st. And then and then you completely feel yeah, you realize for her. And why she's being like yeah, I that. mean, it's, it's, it's so well done,

well, she had to do it that way because you had to be communicating a little bit of a mislead about, um, being a murderer. Like, there had to be my character the same way, like they had to be just odd enough where you would buy them as the possible killer.

I love the Empire outf- uh uh thing. I thought that was great. Uh, would you, um, please tell us your experience? Cause we've heard from Jason. The 1st scene that you guys shot together, the where we met, 1st scene,

that was the 1st one. I'm bad, I'm bad, having will you, ca- sex,

can we just hear your perspective walking into shooting that day?

yeah, tell tell them how we met.

okay. Well, reading the script, everybody was like, Oh God, how are you gonna do that? Cause I have to do. There's a thing called weight placement,

Do what? What scene are you talking about?

weight placement, which is a thing that people like, which when I 1st read it, I did not know. Weight placement was something that people did with their underwear on. So that was kind of a relief when I figured that out. Um, cause I thought, Oh, okay, well, at least they'll be wearing something, um, but yeah, weight placement is where I put some weight, uh, and sit on Jason's face. And that was supposed to be much later in the schedule.

And I had been like, I'm gonna train and I'm gonna tan, I'm gonna do all these, I'm gonna eat right. Cause that's finally when I start to do it, once I once I get the job, I, I'm in between, I'm like, not doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And then once I get them, I'm like, Oh God, I'll do it now. Um,

And plus, we'll know each other, it'll be super giggly and fun and comfortable. was, we'll talk And sure,

about it, and, uh, and then the schedule changed and it came up right away. It was the very 1st scene that we really shot together. So, the very um,

1st scene we ever did, and

and you didn't know each

1st thing in the morning. other.

1st thing in the morning,

Well, the we. We had met in the parking garage of the uh, of the apartment building we were both staying in in Atlanta. What, uh, a couple of days before that, that was it,

And then she said, See you tomorrow when you send him, when I send him your face,

yeah, basically, yeah, and then, yeah, 1st thing in the morning. Um, uh, hey, uh, so uh, good to hey, see you again.

take it easy.

Yeah, just met you a couple days ago. And um,

that is crazy.

she was, she was in incredibly, you know, I was incredibly nervous. I'm sure she was too. The the intimacy coordinator was fantastic. Steve was really cool and it was surprisingly, I guess not surprisingly. Most most intimacy scenes, although I haven't done a bunch, but the ones I have, they're pretty, uh, Mechanical, you know, kind of mechanical. Exactly like. You have to kinda hit this mark, and you have to kinda say this line here and watch out for shadowing here and all that.

It like, it, it's, um,

Amanda has said that she's said it's very mechanical, she said, it's very. That was the exact word she used. It's funny, you should say very mechanical. She said it's very that was the exact word she used. It's funny you should say that.

And cut. Yeah.

And cut.

And I say, uh, Should we check playback or just move on?

Yeah. It was I was happy because both of us are a little bit germaphobe. And so That was a comfort. That was a comfort.

'Cause you knew he was clean. You knew he We're Was clean.

Both addicted to breath strips.

Oh my god. Yes. Uh-huh.

So that was all the whole shoot. Good. We were addicted to breath strips. Uh, we both are like

Although we never kissed. Never kissed.

No, mm-mm. The only people

No kissing.

Who ever kiss in that show is David and Peter Sutherland.

That was part of Jason's negotiation for doing the Show.

I heard that.

But, right, it's like people think, Oh, this is gonna be a real salacious show. It's like, you know, there's not really that much sex, and they're not even kissing, and even the sex that we do is just, like, so weird and kink that it's kind of funny and off-putting, and It's not it's not salacious at all. It it's just another Kind of another one of those sort of subversive kind of elements of it that, um, was just so surprising, anyway.

Well, if Um

Anybody hasn't seen it yet, have to see it now. It's an Emmy-winning performance, uh, that you that people Check Have to see.

It out. Arnett. It's, uh, it's pretty it's a good watch,

It's really good.

And it's, uh, it's not Oh, I've seen A bad Um, Well, Linda Goddammit. You're the best. I'm so excited I Get to see you in a couple of days. Um, And then, no doubt, See you again, hopefully, fingers crossed, Is that is that For

For are you guys doing DTF Minneapolis? What's happening?

That's DTF Minneapolis. We all get in a bus

I wish.

And go there.

I would do that show a million times over. It Was so fun.

I know it. I know it.

Was one of those things where it's, like, the show was so great to do with everybody, the the fact that it's also getting the recognition it's getting, It's beautiful.

Feels nice.

Feels very good. Good. But, also, um, I'm gonna go have some soup. I heard you guys Talk about soup. Go get go get

Some sauce, um, enjoy that incredible family of yours, Um, and we are looking forward to seeing you coming up

I can't wait.

On Crystal Lake and Way of the Warrior Kid. I'm looking forward to seeing you at the fancy thing, the other, uh, in a couple of nights, Yes. We'll Um

Eat snacks again in the front row.

Yeah. Love you so much, and thank You for doing this.

Love you guys. Thanks for having me. It's so nice Here. Love you guys.

Thank you.

To meet you, Linda.

And then I just met you. Love you. Yes. Likewise. Yeah. Like,

Love you too.

Right, there.

We love you too. Linda. Thanks, you guys. Take

Thank you.

Thank you. Care. Thank you. Have a

I'll see you.

Great day. Bye. Bye-bye. That's Linda Cardellini.

Linda Cardellini. I mean, you

Linda Cardellini.

Know, she's one of those actresses that, like, sh- c- like, literally, chameleon, and you were naming all She can The things she's

Do anything.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right. Oh my She can do Gosh, and all Anything. Of those things.

And she's been on a lot of the stuff that you love for

I know.

A long time.

For a long time.

And TV shows and movies and things and big, like, uh, you know, like, the Avengers-type stuff, and then, like, cool, like, just, like, everything. Every sort of

What if she what if she what if she if she was on Star Wars, Sean, would you have it Um, would you be that that that Where would That that

You cast her?

Would be something? Then then she'd have That would be Your respect.

Would she would she be part of the Rebel Alliance? What do you think?

Of course. She's too nice. She I I I wonder if, uh No, but, like, I'm I'm a an Avengers fan, but I'm not, like, a massive fanatic, you know, like, I am What if, like, Star Wars.

A blow dart just came in from the right side of frame from Scotty right into his neck. Oh, no. You son of a bitch.

Yeah. No, but, um, but she's been in all all these those great things, especially that sitcom you mentioned with Suzanne Somers. What was it called?

Oh, the Pat Duffy vehicle, Step By Step.

What is it called? Step. Step. Step. Bye. Zapped. Step.

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