STAYING ALIVE: Sean Hayes!

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How what are you doing? How are you staying alive? What a

Uh, that's a good question, you know, you think I would've prepared for this, but, um, It is the uh, only question. So no, no, the, um, how am I staying alive? It's a well, I'm gonna tell you right now. I got my blood work done, I don't know, like, a month ago, and it was really bad. It was like I had creme brulee for blood, like I had it was just sugar and fat all the way.

but your diet Through is infamously you. You, insane

you eat what you want, you eat what you want all the time for, all the time,

like, my for my seventy nothing. s, all seventy-six years. I've been eating what I want.

Hey, smart list listeners, this is, uh, Adam Pally. and Jon Gabrus s Oh, we're all up in your feet.

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yeah, it's a health and wellness podcast hosted by physically unhealthy and mentally unwell guys.

That's a great is that was that what that cue card says?

Yeah, I don't know. Devin's been waving in our face this whole That's why I time.

can't read it. Devin, put it down.

We love our bosses.

Yeah, we love our horrible bosses.

Ah, all right, Sean Hayes

Sean Hayes. baby. Isn't it crazy that we've union-busted television so much that, like, theoretically, this what we're doing now, we could sell to Netflix?

I mean, it's CR- and probably will. I brought I well, yeah, it. Yeah, I mean,

it's like, wild, like, there's no production. The bu- the production value I have is that I clicked, like, Blurry on my background. yeah. Mine

is that I moved a pile of Crocs and Sperrys out of the fucking frame, so I I looked like I cleaned up here.

oh my god, I got a story about Croc. Should we start with that or no?

Let it rip. please, I want Sure, hey, that rich

the so I was doing money. this, I was do hi guys, so good to see you, by the way. Good It's good to see you. to see you I was doing this show, again. um, promises, promises on Broadway, years and years and years ago, and this this very, um, conservative looking family, uh, was there with their kids, and one of the the the girl was, like, in a dress, and the guy and the little boy. L- she was, like, 10, and he was, like, 9, and he had Crocs on his shoes, right on his feet, he was wearing Crocs as part of his like suit.

It was, like, really cool. And, uh, but I was in, like, joke mode after the show. So, you know, when you're just like, you're in the zone, you can't stop, cause I had just performed, Say so the adrenaline's still going. I got off stage, and the whole fam- their whole family's there. I don't remember who it was. And, uh, and I was like, Hey, how was that? Uh, h- how what's your name, little girl? And she's like, Sue.

I'm like, what a tsunami of a performance. Like, just bad jokes like, but you can't stop your brain. And the kid goes, uh, the kid goes, Um, he takes the shoe off, and he said, Will you sign my Croc? I go, Thank God there's an R in that. Okay, let's and the and the and the parents were like, G- grabbed their kids, like, I think we're I think we're okay, I think we're good. And then and woah, and Scotty, my husband grabbed my arm.

He's like, they it's so nice to meet you, and he just pulled me. Exactly.

Sean, this is awesome to improvise with you. You are Oh, come one of the funniest on. Likewise, people ever, you guys, hero of ours, come on, we got a fucking hero of ours.

we got one of our bosses on the line here, dude. I This is not know, and right? No, I get a it's so cool the answer. you.

to have, like, hero bosses, too. It's like,

Thanks, man.

you know, it's like, W- how do you look so good at Oh god, 74?

yeah, since you were on TV when I was Cause you, you're young, how are you look the way you look

Yeah, and I know the

now?

3 of you, cause Jason's Jason's the oldest, right? He's like, just hit 80, that's correct. Yep, and and then then 76, you're 74, seventy, yeah, and then Will, s shockingly, is 65, right? He's the youngest,

But he's got his muscles, right? He's got that right?

of work, he's an of yeah, well, he smokes, work.

so it keeps him young.

Then he smokes. Yeah, yeah, nicotine is now coming back around.

yeah, yeah, you know, you thought, Uh, how Yeah, you thought,

what are you doing? How are you staying alive? What a

uh, that's a good question, you know, you think I would've prepared for this, but, um, It is the uh, only question. So no, no, the, um, how am I staying alive? It's a well, I'm gonna tell you right now. I got my blood work done, I don't know, like, a month ago. Well, first of all, I got

oh gosh.

it done, like fi 4 or 5 months ago, and it was really bad. It was like I had creme brulee for blood, like I had it was just sugar and fat all the way But your through.

diet is infamously you. You, Insane you eat what you want, you eat what you want all the time for, all the time,

like, my for my seventy nothing. s, all seventy-six years. I've been eating what I want.

No, no, Barry White added to, uh,

Yeah, and so and so, what I did was when I got those numbers back, it was, like, such a shocker because they were bad. Like the coll- like, I've always had super high triglycerides, like, really bad, and then the cholesterol and whatever. But I would so this is kinda what hit me. So, you know, the Häagen-Dazs ice cream, like, you know, like, the little tiny pints, which my it's my favorite ice cream. Häagen-Dazs. I think it's probably the best out there.

eh, I'm a huge fan. And I think Hot milk cookies mass produ- and cream.

production mass production wise, if you're not in a small town and there's not, like, a, you know, a mom and a l- a a pop, mom and pop place, I think Häagen-Dazs is the is, like, way better than Ben and Jerry's. No, no shame.

well, well, look, but by the way, you look at the back of Häagen-Dazs. I'm no joke, the vanilla, that's it. It's eggs, milk, sugar, and something else, and lard. No, I don't know what it is. No, it's All all lard.

4 of my blood types.

Yeah, quick, does anybody have lard? Nice blood? We got We're gonna Pal a safety had a heart attack pin. again. a a lard blood transfusion? Uh, but anyways, so, um, but yeah, so I look at the back of it. By the way, I've been eating those things like, Hey, I was good today, I can just have a whole. It's like this big. But finally, for the first time in my life, I looked at the sugar content, and I was like, Oh, wow, it says, like, half of a cup has, like, twenty-five grams of sugar, and there's, like, I don't know how many cups in there, so it's probably, like, eighty to a hundred grams of sugar, which is insane in

1 sitting. So I'd be eating that 3 times a week for the last 50 years, At night, like, all the any time, like, would that it doesn't matter.

mess up your sleep?

Hey, can we do a side zoom about Yeah, well, that?

cause my sleep is horrible. I I, I

It's horrible. I get up at 3:00 every morning. oh, 3:00 would be Yeah,

a dream. yeah, and If I could make it then really, 3, I mean,

what time do you go to bed?

sometimes I I don't know if I've ever slept. I You're like like,

the only stoner I know, Pally, that doesn't sleep. I I'm a scoff fucking, I know

and I think that's what it is. Do you take gummies or smoke it?

Oh, I d I mean, at this point, at this Or you s or point,

you snort it.

I have it. I have it piped into my I get my CBD nostrils.

IV every night. Yeah, well, No, I'm

the actually the air conditioning guy just came and changed our M weed filter, so I. we're we're good.

I sleep like a fucking rock. When you you guys are waking you do, up, yeah, I know, I think I know. Adam it's my drinking, said, Yeah, well, drinking is the is the undoing cause I I of. well, drinking, still like whiskey

but yeah, but if yeah, but if you drink, you know, and you get all the buzz and then you go to sleep, you'll never sleep because of the sugar and the alcohol keep you up. Right, you know?

and that, e- exactly. So I'm wondering if, the if the the sugar. And ice cream, cause that's the yeah, so much sugar,

of course, I don't know, I s, but I've. I've had sleep problems my whole life. But wait, let's get back to sleep. I wanna finish the thing. So then I got the thing, finish the I so I got thought. the ice cream, I would eat that, and then I fig- you know? And then the doctor's like, This is out of control, like, you know, your blood is c- like your cholesterol, everything's horrible. I started forming soft plaque and all this stuff, so that's what's keeping me alive.

Is, I completely. I didn't cut out sugar, but I've never, ever learned balance in my entire life. So now it's just like, if I so, so, 2 days ago, 3 days ago, for dinner, I had, uh, spaghetti, meatballs and a milkshake. Okay, then the next day, I can't do any of that. So I'll have, like, turkey on Ezekiel bread and fruit, like, just really boring shit. You're And so,

you're, you're preaching to the your direct choir here, cause w- all we talk about is trying to learn balance, because we're not gonna stop drinking a bottle of Japanese whiskey together. alright, So we have to, on the, uh, days when we don't do that, just swing the pendulum the other way. Yeah, well, Yeah,

uh, but it does lead me to a question, Sean, if you don't mind Yeah, quickly, about quickly. oh oh, um, to be fair, do you? uh,

if you're only listening to the pod, Sean is on the red carpet. We stopped him. We're gonna and Sean do a full

is bad at eating. podcast on the

red carpet.

my costume in Ha- has the wall of my home. And this is that's very

He's got a sniff and repeat Bjork. with his own info on it.

Very Bjork. Sia. I would love that. Uh, no, Sean was I w- I was good. gonna say, like, w- as a kid, like, you know, we're part of we. We talk a lot about being like clean plate kids, where, like, you know, when you, when you well, I want grow up in a house that doesn't have a ton of money and your parents are cooking, there's this sort of like mental thing where it's like the plate needs to be clean, you know, from for the kids in Africa

that's right. to like that you're That's how he grew. wasting my money, I just brought

you know?

this up the other day, and so your brain goes, Right, we I know where you're going. Your brain goes, Well, I have to fit, I have to eat it, and then you become you to get these habits of finishing that. And I think I just equated it the other day to working out, which is like, cause I I have a trainer, otherwise, I wouldn't go, and so I go, uh, uh, it's my incentive to go. If I'm paying somebody, I'm like, Fuck, I'm paying somebody.

I have to go. Yeah, sunk So so I go costs. there and I'm like, Dude, we don't have to work out for an hour, it's the clean plate thing. It's like, just because everyone's like, an hour, it's like, no, I work out till I'm get sweaty and I'm tired and it hurts, which is like, fifteen minutes. No, which is like, No, which is like I play a thirty five,

for the hour, I work out for 18 minutes, and then I then I lay around and complain for the rest of the hour.

right, uh, but but no, it's do you think like thirty-five, Jason's cutting me off forty

too much?

Yeah, exactly. Thirty-five, forty minutes, I'm out. And right in the middle of, like, uh, like a rep, I go, I'm out, and I walk out of the gym. And so, but it's the same concept as the clean plate thing. It's like all these ideas that we grew up with that are embedded, like, you have to work out an hour, you have to clean your plate, you have to do, I don't know what the fuck else, but um, is is is different now, like, but but right?

it's interesting The clean And remember the plate, cause, like, mem- remember the pyramid of the food groups? It's like, No, you should eat 8 pounds of bread a day or yeah. It's like whatever it is.

you should have twel- twelve bowls of pasta a day, two pieces of fruit. yeah, and venison, Yeah, yeah,

like, there was always a picture of, like, raw mutton, yeah, have a you know? And it's like,

have a big old mutton chop like you're a video game character picking it up and chomping it.

I know, but I was I was. I was wondering about this idea. Because for someone who who works so hard and is in so, in so many different facets, like including being being on Broadway, which is like, Wha- insane. you, you, i is the most. I mean, I I tell you all the time when I was, when I did it, I've never drank more or eaten worse in my entire life. yeah, because because because You're just

you're exhausted.

finishing, you're yeah, you're just finishing, you're like, Rah, and and and the only thing that you can like, cause you haven't eaten before the show, and then you're starving, and you're like, the only thing that can, like, quiet you down is a bottle of red wine and pasta. Right? There Is, like,

are no other options.

there's no other way to be a Broadway, and like, and

They don't let you back so, on the stage unless you do.

yeah, no, truly, they would they check your they. They

Check your log.

used to get the receipt f- from If you last night.

don't if you don't have an 11:00 PM reservation that has 2,600 calories like loaded to go,

but it's tr- but it's true because you I don't know what what you were doing, but like, was it a big part or a big show?

Oh, it was a two-hander, Uh, yeah, well, so it was like,

say no more. Yeah, it was a Yeah,

six-month two-hander.

oh God, six months, eight shows a week,

Uh, eight shows a week and you're drenched for about

in sweat after you get off. doing everything you're, A Yeah,

and it's like, you're, you're. It's the whole. It's one of those whole gamut plays where you're,

let me tell you something, like, naked, and, totally. Yeah, I read

oh, it's exhausting.

part. I'm still, I'm still waiting to hear. I read It's okay, part, uh,

I, I, they've recast me but s uh, for a six-month run.

so, but but to that point is like, I w- when you're doing that many shows, you're and you're drenched in sweat and you don't know, you're just gonna refill your body any way you can.

Yeah, and you're like, and there's something about the like social aspect of like, you're, It's cause, like we were saying poor before, you're, you're like, you're, yeah, you're like, you're all revved up, and it's like a victory every night. that's right, And so there's this mental need to pop a bottle of champagne. It's like, I survived, I did it, I didn't go up on a line. It's like,

Like, I Yeah, this is but but my, this is my that can't be, yeah, treat. No, no, that that can't be happened. You have to healthy. You re you know,

can't do that.

but I was gonna equate it to sports because that's what I was gonna say is, um, when I'm, like, watching whatever, like, there's a football game on and or somebody's getting. I wa- I just watched Rocky, that movie Rocky again, that you know, and

movie Rocky. yeah, yeah, I I think I know which one you're talking familiar, familiar, about.

Sean, familiar.

Have you seen this film, Rocky?

someone said there's a two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight, but I don't know if that's true. But anyway, so and and they're like, and or whatever, or I'm watching a football game and whatever. The the guys like the the the PT guys, the physical therapist guys, right? And they're doing the back, and the thing. And and when you do a play on Broadwa- I'm always like, Yeah, they're everybody's an athlete because you're doing the same movements over and over, and your body and your muscles get really so, yeah, you're just looking to refuel.

I I just wanna equate Broadway to sports. Well, no, People, people

I like it. think that's ridiculous, Thank you. I I but it's like I hope, you know, I'm gonna have to give you a wedgie now. another one I'm sorry,

was just fair.

Peter. No, I mean, more than the one you more than the one you showed up with.

well, Gaveros is starting a multicam in like 2

Are you really? weeks, and you're, you're, you're a No way.

multicam king. And so when you say to to me, like, Broadway is, Broadway is like sports, multicam to me is like, um, uh, hitting slots.

yeah, I know. Well, yeah, well, It it's

I hope for I hope for Gaver's w- it is. yes, bigger

Yeah, well, I mean, any

spots for Fox. t I mean, any Yeah,

time I did, I did a multicam for for 1 season, and it w- felt like hitting a slot. Because you're like, Oh, this is

It's a great job.

a job. The hours are I clock amazing. Yeah, in, I clock out, and I'm still doing funny things, it's like, it's the best.

I, I, I would. So we had the great James Burrows, direct Will and Grace, right? May he He directed every

rest in peace.

episode of Cheers and every episode of Will and Grace and Friends and Two and a Half Men and everything else. And, um, and he we would get to work at 10, and we'd be done at two, four, four hours a day. That's it. And so one of the writers, cause he works so fucking fast. And then when I hosted Saturday Night Live, they're like, Is this going too fast? I'm like, Are you kidding? Like, I was, I've been spoiled.

Like, I this pace is incredible to me. And so so the because i it's all about the writing, if it's not in the writing, what are we rehearsing? f- what are we over rehearsing for? You know what I mean? And so I'm excited. What is it, Gaver? That you're doing?

it's called Dinks.

it's awesome, Sean. It's with, uh, Marta It's awes- Kaufman, and it's a, Oh, by God, uh, yeah, yeah, pretty

brilliant. She's great. excited. Um, and it's What's it called?

like it's called Dinks. Double income, no kids. Uh, Paul Scheer and June Diane Raphael play like a married couple Amazing, that are rebuilding a house, and I play like their weird nephew who moves in. uh, that's And sort of,

great. Is it a pilot, a series, pickup,

it's a series. or Uh, yeah, we shot the pilot a couple years ago. We're doing 6 episodes for Amazon.

amazing for Amazon? Yeah, it's, This is exciting,

yeah, it's very exciting. It's probably my f- you know, t twenty years in the biz, my first series regular I'm

really?

a I'm a pump for it. Yeah,

Congrats, man. This is so exciting. Is it, um, and it's with an audience and everything?

with a live studio audience and improvised, not fully scripted.

no way. yeah, which sounds Oh, this is brilliant. amazing. Yeah,

yes, it's gonna be. It that's should be pretty fucking exciting. Yeah,

That's amazing.

th- that's the way that

And what? And then what do they just works. cut around the the improv yes, I guess that doesn't they trim it up work?

there, yeah. Or, like, w- uh, in the pilot, we, like, redid a scene here and there of, like, Oh, let's tighten this up, let's lose that chunk, and let's just get through it. Cause, like, you can cut together between takes, uh, Well, and they have you

you is brilliant and improvising anyway. Is everybody really yeah. Paul Scheer great at it?

is Paul Scheer was my

Yeah, are you?

level two teacher in 2004. Um, yeah, way. and, uh, June is, uh, Amen. fantastic. And then I'm s I'm assuming our guest stars will be, uh, people of a similar caliber.

that's really exciting.

Uh, yeah, equating sports to, uh, uh, performing. I wanna get back into that for a second, cause w- like, w- we treat ourselves like ultramarathoners, you know, like, you're like refueling in between scenes and stuff, and it's like, w- it does feel like that emotionally. But then at the end of the day, you're like, I did have 4 Buffalo chicken wraps and maybe burned 80 calories performing. But, like, in your head, you're like, I need this emotionally.

And you do feel like each after each stop down, you're like, I earned it. Let me refuel, like squeezing the gel into your y- yeah, mouth, like you're a like, you're doing It's a craft an ultramarathon. Dan, this is service.

Danger, danger. Do you go over there, Sean? You do you do you, uh, go over there trolling for truffles?

Yeah, yeah, still. No, we. We had our craft service lady, which she would make, um, she was from the south, so she'd just make, uh, you know, brisket and fucking, you know, hamburgers and, like, cake and, like, mac and cheese. It was crazy. Her name was Sandy. Sh- Sandy My last show Flowers.

shot in Chicago, and it was like you would liter- literally, like, you'd walk in and they'd be like, You look you look a little peaked. What do you say? What do you say? We do a pierogi bar at lunch, huh?

that's a good accent.

And you'd be like, a pierogi bar at lunch? Like, or or pre-lunch, I don't care, just to get you some sustenance. You're like, pierogies. I gained, like, thirty pounds in that shoot. Like, I look back on that, and there's a scene where I'm, like, running in my underwear in a car, and I was like, Oh God, I hit that pierogi but yeah, bar.

but but I think for your sitcom, it's gonna, you know, I'm very passionate about what makes certain ones work and what makes other ones don't. And I think, if if you remember, the scripts used to be called teleplays, it wouldn't be called scripts. Did you get the teleplay for whatever? I mean? And so that's because they were plays, and so you were, it's almost like the audience at home, like I Love Lucy or Will and Grace or Cheers.

If you watch Cheers, I still watch Cheers all the time. the best It's like you're watching a play.

best pilot ever.

And so the actors are incredible, like your cast, you just said sounds incredible. They're all acting f- w- in the scene, they're not performing for the audience, and that because that's what you do in a play, you're in the scene with you get that voyeurism, somebody, looking in their too. eyes, and and it doesn't matter who's watching, it doesn't matter if the entire audience is watching or nobody's watching, you're in the scene with somebody and that draws us in.

And so many sitcoms, because they're overly lit and overly edited and overly the sound like the sound is in your face. Back then, you could hear the crew walking around, and you could feel the audience through the sound of everybody watching this play. And I think that's what's missing. I feel real passionate about it, and, um, hopefully, yeah,

Uh, that sounds you just reminded me of something. When I saw August: Osage County amazing, on Broadway, so same, one of the best, uh, plays I've ever seen. amazing, Tracy, See that's my that dinner sequence Tracy that's my Letts.

my boy.

Amazing, that's the dinner sequence, where yeah,

four people are facing directly away from the yes, that's audience. And you're like, that's a weird, uh, setting. And then all of a sudden, it feels like what you're talking about, that you are watching a

watching a family.

dinner for real. You're like looking through a window at them. And that's it was like it blew my mind open for, like, this exact thing you're talking about. It was like, I just could not believe. I'm like, that's crazy. From improv, you know, we are you're like, sit open to the crowd so everyone knows what you're doing, and then you watch this. And I'm like, Oh man, I feel like I'm s like But when you said standing in the kitchen Im watching them cook.

totally, but when you said improvise, I I've never seen that before, and I think that'll help a lot. You can Make Yeah, if you don't it feel make it a wheel real. have like larks and way to do to hit and

shit like that, it should feel a little crazy. Yeah, I'm, Well, because I'm upset.

I, I, I, and I didn't. I only did, like, thirteen episodes, but in my in my brief experience of it, the part that is the hardest to keep fresh is when something doesn't work. And you you go back to the and you're trying, internet and the writers come out and they're like, let's do this and that. And it's like, it's not anyone's fault, the audience has seen it, they've seen, you know what, I mean, So they're they know

not, you can't milk them. Yeah,

you. C- like, they know I'm gonna bounce through that door, so it's like, it's not as now we're hoping that the surprised, n next line is funny. It's like, it's hard to kinda get that energy, but I feel like to mix the the energy of no script in that will kinda cure that in a way that it it almost feels like Saturday Night Live, like you were saying, yeah, for where, like, it could, fuck It was, you could fuck up.

was pretty crazy shooting the pilot. I know the audience is trained for this. I've been watching TV my whole life, but I open the door and get, like, the huge applause. They don't know who I am. It's not like, Oh, fuck, the nephew's here. Like, they're just like, No, they're supposed to do it. And I've never felt so, like, electrified in my entire life. I was like, I'll fucking kill anybody. But I'm like, indestructible. I've never felt that.

I got, like, the Kramer reaction, and I'm like, undeserved yeah. And full-coached, but then you're, I was like, Ah,

yeah. And then when you're done taping, you're on such a high that night. I I would drive for hours listening to music, cause I was so amped up, it was like a rock concert, every single show, it was crazy.

And especially you guys were like yeah, you guys you guys were were like like touching the big fucking the moon, you know what I deal. Yeah, mean, like,

It's crazy.

where people were waiting. I mean, I remember as a kid waiting for the next Will and Grace, Thanks. you know, cause you're like, you there were no And then it never re like, you're like, came. are we are we off? are we? uh, you know what I mean? At one point, it started to stop coming, but they well, that was all

back in the day when you didn't know the programming schedules, and it wasn't easy to find out without a TV guide. So you'd kinda just be, like, sitting there. I'd be like, I think it's Thursdays at eight thirty or nine like, you just had to

were you running?

be planted in front of the TV and be like, Have we seen this one? I don't know. Is this a new one? Is this a rerun? And you're just excited to be there. And then they remember, Yeah,

I don't know if you guys are too young, but remember, they super sized the episodes, like they'd be like

I remember those.

5 minutes longer and just so they could make more ad dollars. But I was too I will super young to know that. Bowl, Yeah, yeah, totally.

oh, Super Bowl.

Oh, Super Bowl is the spot. super But

extended episode of your favorite show, and it's just 4 extra minutes of the characters talking in the living room. Set. You're like, I know, Oh, okay, I know

I kind of wish I would do the other way. I wish I didn't do single cam first, cause I feel like single cam. Like, by the time I got to multicam, I was like, when, when it, it's the way that, like, uh, you know, you I. I was like, when are we taking a break? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like, I felt like I would've liked to switch it.

well, the hours on on a single camera are extraordinarily longer. Yeah, but anyway, back to the show, staying alive. So the, uh, thank you with sorry, sorry about that. no, please Um, yeah, do. No, we're yeah, no, Usually not gonna

do that in an edit, but great job.

but, um, yeah, so I so my blood was so bad. All the shit I was eating, it, finally caught up to me just this year. And so I started to balance by eating a little better, but I'm on these are the things I'm on. Metformin, which I hear, is great. Really, They my, my, uh, what's that? the metformin no, not the George girl? Foreman. You're thinking No, not the of, oh, sorry, original, sorry. Yeah, it's called sorry, metformin.

your doctor, in 2026, is like, I'm gonna need you to start using the George Foreman the metal grill. one grill. Yeah, and You're like, I think start, I need to find another doctor. This guy got the shirt sold. Well, exactly. I'm just

standing up there, grilling, like I'm looking I'm

at your numbers. I'm looking at your numbers. Someone is clearly not tilting.

grill it. You gotta tilt Yeah, you

it, pal.

gotta grill on an angle, pal. Yeah, that's hysterical. And, It's not a methform- uh, so metformin.

metformin, one of my my thyroid stuff, which I've been on for years, cause I have a little, just a little low. And then, um, well, oh, I'm on a statin, which I really wish I wasn't, but I Staten have to.

boys, right? Staten boys. like You're on Staten the high, Island with us right now, yeah, statin baby. Yeah,

eyes, totally.

welcome to Stat. Welcome to Pete Davidson. An island baby. I'm on He bought a boat. Lipitor.

You should do. You do have the receipt? You No, just and, uh,

like s Pete and Colin, we don, were stuck with our

that helps. laptop. Yeah, exactly. Um, so so I'm so those things are, and they've helped. But by the way, exercise, I fucking hate it, but I force myself to go because you have to. And now I'm now. I've lost a lot of weight because I've cut back sugar a lot, and I've cut out a lot of white, right? Flour and rice and whatever. And so I'll eat, like Ezekiel bread, which is really low, uh, uh, what is it called?

Oh, yeah, now it's insulin resistant, insulin resistant, Oh, so, GLP- so I was like, No, ones, I'm not on those, but I was pre pre-diabetes.

And that's what metformin will help with, that, it s it regulates right? That sugar in your blood, yeah,

so it's like the beginning.

right, in your cells.

Yeah, cause we both, we both are on GLP-1s. Oh, you are, Yeah, and yes, and and you've I

noticed a difference, obviously.

I have not noticed a huge difference because I'm, uh,

What if you just started throwing up?

I have not noticed a huge difference you're you in

are recording from a toilet,

in my look. though. I haven't. I haven't noticed a difference in my look. I've noticed a difference in the way I feel. No, no, no, I am. No, it. I. I m. My father is a is a physician, and he he, uh, has I remember that, been prescribing it to a lot of his patients over forty-five. Because uh, what? Which it's, one? A GIMPy uh, all

one? of them, just Yeah, yeah,

based on your blood work, uh, which one whichever one fits you. Because he believes that it does prevent, like, stroke and heart attack and even some cancers. And he's like, his big crusade is that, like, if it wasn't I hate using this word, but Kardashified early on, peop- a lot of people would still be alive.

If it wasn't Hollywood, Hollywood fide and like all about, like, shallow, looking people. Cause I'll describe it as this, like we talked about Clean Plate Club. I grew up, every girlfriend's parents loved me because I ate all the food and I got, like, rewarded. You know, when I was married, my in-laws would be like, This boy can eat. We love you, thank you so much for loving our, and I'm like, people like me cause I eat their food.

Ha ha ha. And then I just, and I never ex- I guess it wasn't until I started Zet bound that I experienced what being satiated or full was like. Promo I only had, like, code promo two things,

code promo code. yeah, where I was So right, hungry We'll promo code or sick for that's as a fucking your job, Sean. You dog.

know what, Sean, that's your job.

Get us some ads here, brother.

You got us the codes, we'll promo em.

But for real, after being on Zet bound for a couple of months, I now will eat a meal and go like, I can't believe that was enough food. Like, I don't need an appetizer and an entree. An that's, that's right, entree is enough, and it's that's right, like, it's really cha- I had never experienced this, like, it's right. And crazy, I'm

then I bet I don't wanna I'm not a doctor. I bet if you got off it, which, you know, you there's no need to. You would your brain is now changed to be like, I don't need and like, if there's like a burger and I'm starving, I will eat half and be like, I'm actually full. Like, there's no. And and by the way, this is the other thing people don't talk about. We we don't need to eat 3 meals a day because we're not growing anymore.

The reason why you need to eat 3 meals is cause you're constantly fucking growing, and you need fuel. Your bones are extent, everything's growing. And then once you reach your height and whatever, and your age, you're like, Well, I'm not growing anymore, so I don't need to eat 85,000 fucking pounds of food a day,

yeah, man. That's why the Rock is constantly like eating a lake's worth of cod. Is cause, like, he's trying to grow, you know? If you're like, Which would you like okay, with how

a salmon sushi? you are, No, just yeah, and all the cod it's like, you have. No, I only Yeah, yeah,

want God, the smaller, the bottom feeder.

He just goes in like a fucking whale, like open mouth, bites into the ocean, and then strains the water out between his gums, like his baleen.

like Gollum. Yeah, fish heads. Oh It's like, Kevin my god,

Hart, how did you get in there?

I I would be mad if this didn't come up on this episode. Sh- uh, we'll get back to health in a second. Sean, you had a production, uh, have a production company, hat, hat, Hazy Mills, had, hat, yeah, um, and you produced a really strange game show that took place in a salon, that's right, that's and I hosted Hair Jacked for that's right, True TV for

that's right.

one season.

Yeah. God, that was so long ago.

That was so long ago, and now here we are working together I know I love yet again.

it. And by the way, you were fucking great. You Oh, thank were so

All of it? you. great. It's It was cash hard

cab in a hair salon, cash by the way. Still cab in a hair salon.

still a great idea.

Still, I had a blast. Loser, loser of the game had to get a fucked up haircut. It was very

it was awesome. funny.

Wait, but Sean, you had a couple hits with Hazy Mills, didn't you?

Yeah, we had Hot in Cleveland, we had Grimm, we had, uh, History of Comedy on CNN, we had

Those are those are like, that's like 3 on the air, that's huge.

yeah, well, we had we had more, but I don't, um, That's that's but that's like my favorite, one of

yeah, they don't have the name them. recognition of Hair Jacked.

yeah, hair jacked is good. By the way, that's still a really good idea. I I We should do I can't bring it. I'll bring it that back. I'm Thanks. back.

I'm tech avail, bro.

What do you shoot? You shoot thirteen episodes, six episodes, Six episodes, and you start next week

y- uh, you start in two weeks? Yeah, in two weeks? Wow, yeah, uh,

pal, what do you got going on?

Awesome. I'm finishing. I got another, like, six, seven weeks on the Beatles, and that's, uh,

I'm an idiot. What what is that?

it's a movie about the Beatles. it's Sam Uh, a love story Mendes, Sam Mendes making about the Beatles. fo- mo- four movies,

one about each Beatle. Yeah,

are is that? oh, really? That's amazing.

uh, Adams and a couple of them as the That's man, one of the managers.

that's incredible. There's four Moo- he's doing four movies.

yeah. And you play the same character in each movie, i in I a different, do. you well, you play Sean Hayes' other, you're the Indigo girl to the you don't know this, Wait, did you but

say I'm an Indigo? I'm an Indigo You're playing yourself, you're girl? an Indigo oh, you're, you're playing girl.

you're playing the Indigo girl. Yes, and actually, there's a big lawsuit. No, um,

Well, I'm closer to fine. Yeah, what do you do for? what do you do for lines? Do? How do you guys memorize lines? Like, do s do you have a designated spot in your in your house or your apartment or whatever that you like you, that is just for that? Or do you get somebody to run with you, or how I need do you do a PA, it?

I need a PA, and I need to do it, like, r repetitiously cold, where it's literally, like, over and over again, each line. What did I miss? What did I get wrong? I gotta say it again, and then I gotta put that sentence with the next one, and I gotta put that with the next one, and then I gotta put it all together until I have the whole play.

so you don't have to think about it. that's Yeah,

how I do it. I, I

what do we got?

have to write it, I have to write it the first time. Oh, you And if I'm like, when do, I'm trying to go off book, off book, I have to write all my lines out. And then I kind of, like, write the my lines of the script on a sheet of paper and then run it a bunch. But then I'll always, just every once in a while, go back to my lines, like they're poems, and just, like, where, where's right, that's the sense of it?

great. Yeah, and But writing,

it ends up being like a song, or, yeah, and like, yeah,

writing it is, I think, a holdover from, like, being a kid and just being like, taking notes in class. And it, eh, hitting in a different way than, like, and memorizing it that way.

yeah, for sure.

What about you? What do you Just kidding,

do? I just did, um, um, I don't, I just decided not to. I just don't memorize You just

go up there wide-eyed and people are just clapping cause you're Sean. And you're like, and it's like,

I, I saw one of your

he didn't say a word. plays, I It's interesting

saw one of your plays choice with in Chicago.

Sean Hayes.

yeah, no, no, I just I just say whatever I feel in that I gotta get to moment. No,

that level.

I, no, um, no. I just did a one like a they call them solo plays, but a one-man show called The Unknown, where I played ten different characters. It was a thriller, and it was really fucking fucked up. It was, um, incredibly written, but memorizing, I just did kind of what Adam, you, you said, just by r- I have a place in my room in a corner with a thing, and I just started. It's like it's an hour and ten minutes monologue, and so you just start memorizing it.

And one time, like show, I've said this story before, but one time, like show sixty, seventy, I don't know. After you do it for so long, there's this character, Larry, and of course, I play all the parts. And the line is, um, you know, I go, I go to his apartment, I buzz the door, Larry answers, and Larry kind of just talks, you know, like that, and so I go, I buzz the door, and Larry answers.

And I waited for whoever was playing Larry to say their line, and I was like, cause I was so on autopilot, I was like, waiting, and why isn't? Oh shit, that's me, too. God bless, I play Larry too.

well, that's and that that's like dreaming in another language, you know, where you're

it's crazy.

like, I, I, I sort of know Spanish, and then you're like, in your dream, you know Spanish, and you're like, whoa, you know, that's what that that is like. I mean, that's I couldn't imagine like the dreamest.

doing like a hour-long, uh, word perfect one-person show would you can make me do it, you guys I, I would,

can do it.

I'm gonna have stress diarrhea, just imagining I that. I would y- I, I bet fail horribly.

I could do it, but it I bet, I bet I could do it cause I did the other one. But it would just take the same length of time and effort to, like, make it song like, you just make yeah, it's just like it like a

a song. thing that you People are like, how do you memorize memorize. all those lines? Like, we memorize an album, your favorite album? no, completely. The I Yeah,

still have, though. I wonder if you still have this, I still have, especially, I don't sleep that much, but I do have a re a recurring stress dream

please tell me what it where is.

where I'm about. It's like I'm in the theater. I'm I'm at 2nd stage, I'm in the theater, and I'm, like, in my dressing room, in the the costume and the the PA, and sometimes it's a PA, sometimes it's someone I Stage manager, know. Yeah, sometimes, or it's like that changes, but they're Sometimes it's like,

McGruff, the crime dog, you know, it's a dream. It's like, sometimes, yeah. It's like

I had a crime. sometimes it's like it's dead,

it's exactly.

sometimes it's animated, dead. It's like it could be any, but. But they're like, you know, you, you, you gotta go on, you gotta like, you're late, you're late, you're late, you know? And I'm like, What do you mean? Late? I've been in here the whole time, yeah, it's and then, like,

the worst.

I and then I get on stage and I don't know the play anymore. It's like, I don't know that play anymore. Like, I I don't even know know, you the first line know, and of it, and I'm just looking at the audience. And I and and then it goes like, the you your mind goes to, like, you skip the that part, and then you you're after the show and people are like, What happened? And like, now that's part of your dream, and you're like, Oh my god, I'm having a a n nightmare, but but you know?

you know, what I think is crazies? The eight shows a week, like, who started that? Well, obviously, producers did, to make money, because the more shows you do, the more money. But it's like, I think it's inhuman and like, peop- like, no, it's. It makes it not fun after six months or or five months or four months, you know? It's like, I have to do I still have to eight. It's something like eighty shows. You're like, no, I shouldn't be doing this play eighty times in a row.

And a matinee, Yeah, it's gotta a matinee at this keeping the magic up point,

with that shit has gotta be fucking hard as hell, So, especially too. a matinee you can't at

at this point.

eight 00:00 every night, you can't have a headache, you can't have a stomachache, you can't be upset at your partner, you can't be you can't feel anything other than be

The show must go on. right. Yeah, it's Yeah, just fucking awful well, when you do,

and great, by the way.

when you're when you're in, when you're in a deep like that, a Are you changing any of your normal behaviors? Are you like when you're cause? W- traditionally,

I go to the doctor male, t 25,000 times during a Well, you're show.

an infamous hypochondriac. You had a podcast about it. But, like, you're also super healthy. Those things are actually con- co- I mean, you are, probably cause you're talking tied together. Honestly, a lot. Yeah, tho- those things are probably tied together in a way.

well, I'm, I think I'm finally, I'm getting on the road to being healthy. But now, but um, because I I I think I ate for a different podcast about psychological reasons, uh, but that's for a different show. But, um, but yeah, I I f- to to to keep that up, you know, on, uh, doing a show like that, I do. I f- I. I go to the vocal coach a lot, like the vocal doctor, cause I was like, I I'm screaming a lot in the show.

Can I make sure that I'm not blowing my vocal cords out? And then I'll stick the fucking camera on the tube down there and like, you know, you just

that just gave me like, the Oh god, cat reflexes. it's so

and there's a camera, he's like, say, I, uh, how can you talk? I have cameras down my throat. But um, and so that that's that'll freak me out that. And then just staying healthy because of the guilt of people buying tickets to come see you from all over the world. You know, it's like, Oh God, I don't want, like,

you got a lot of that Catholic you know, it's the guilt, Sean.

pressure is like, crazy. What's that?

You got a lot of that Catholic guilt. DuH, believe me, couple You know what that with the I mean? gay, the Catholic It's like, gay. Oh my god, Yeah, Jesus redundant. Christ, literally, you're, you got way more to worry about than the people that bought the tickets.

Yeah, brother, you have hell coming up. What are you stressed about? Them?

call the matinee, that's the hell that is, These blue hairs too.

don't know what I do.

I got a hell coming up, it's brilliant.

D. So this is what we're talking about, like, we're athletes. That's when you're in season, like, traditionally, our careers are maybe a little every day is a little Kevin flow different. But then when you get into that, you have to lock in. And are you like, are you like, I gotta exercise at noon, I eat, I I, I gotta eat this meal at three, I can't have a coffee after two, right, that's like, are you? right.

Yes, that's What? What are you the thing. Oh, locking into

this is good.

with that?

That's the thing. Because before, like, let's my shows are at seven, cause I'm like, contra- when we were doing the contract, it was like, I'm not doing eight, I'm doing seven o'clock Oh, hell yeah, a and I'm only doing because you seven a week.

because eight means you're out at eleven, Yeah, seven means I'm which is home at a decent lovely. hour. Like, Yeah,

and I wish it was a six so that you could do the show and then eat. Well, because brother, it's all about six is eating. So, John, that's that's perfect, brother. A exactly right.

six show would be better for the audience. But, like, The eight after,

by the way, by the way, I'll, I'll one better you. Let's do five. While we're talking about you know let's do five what, no o'clock.

one works anymore. Five is perfect, Get there, five is perfect.

but I'm still at work. Not my problem. That's when the tickets start, Answer that's when the show email in the in ends.

the intermission.

Yeah, and the cab on the way over. Yeah,

Yes, totally, we. I, eh? I think we're gonna take a do my next play at a WeWork.

that's right. Why not? At a podcast But studio. but it is all about food, Johnny. It's like it's like, you know, you eat at, um, so so you gotta make sure you eat lunch at the right time so it digests, so you don't have acid reflux to give you phlegm so you can't speak or or yell or do your lines. So then you're starving by the end of the show. So when it gets out at nine, ten, eleven, whatever it is, you're like, Well, it's too late to eat now, because now I'm gonna lay flat and all the acid reflux from the food.

So it's har- really fucking hard to figure out when you're gonna eat.

or you get off stage Because, and you gotta, like, shake hands with, like, your six cousins that came to see you, and you're just that's right, like, I need to get fucking wait, pasta asap, brother,

asap, and I need to go to bed. This is all about sleep, like

and like, pressure, sleep. everything, is about Big

sleep. If you i if you're tired and you have to perform, you can't open your throat to make your vocal cords make sound. You know what I mean? But this Like,

guy's definitely going to hell, talking about dinosaurs and shit. no, but it's it's the it's it it

it is really hard. And was it like that? Was it like that when you were on the multicam?

No, I didn't think about it, which is You were just probably, you know, like out there, yeah,

and then you would have the

yeah, drinking. sunset marquee I was just fucking drunk after and like, every night. Yeah,

Yeah, oh, no, we would film, I we talk about it all the time, we would film. F- we were on a single cam, but when Happy Endings was over, we had a standing table at the Sunset Marquee that, like, was used probably for ev- for for like, seventy-five episodes. isn't that great? That's Yeah, it was the it was great, yeah, the best time of my life, like, it was awesome. I wish

yeah, it was great.

uh, my whole thing would be, if forgive me, but would be about pooping. I'd be like, I need to make sure I get, Wouldn't figure that like, I wouldn't out, want to have

like the timing.

to feel like I had one on deck on stage. I feel like it would affect me well, yeah, in the next, yeah,

well, I would, uh, but that's the thing. During a run of a show, my poops are fucking great because all the anxiety and all this stuff makes it go right through.

you're like, lock the fuck in, yeah, yeah. yeah, but every same time,

same place. uh, usually, yeah, usually, Yeah, that's

but when I'm not doing it, Eighty-five it's like, Oh, percent of the time, man,

it's in the toilet. Yeah,

no, no, yeah, it is. But one they're the one of the to make sure one, but on of that.

the on, the on the one man show, I just the unknown, I just did. It's, um, I would dope, but my stomach would get rumbly, and it, b- I would just be just be me, standing behind the curtain, waiting for places, right, which was already in my place. And the stage manager would walk by every single night and be like, Uh, great, you ready? I'd be like, Great, I'm ready. But a lot of the times, I would let one rip right before she walked by, and, uh, that, because I couldn't.

Wa- I didn't wanna do it during the stage, cause then everybody would hear it. So she'd be like, Be ready. Now I am, yeah, every single night. And people we're holding for Sh say, people

we're holding for Sean's part, say, Yeah, we're holding for Sean's part. Has he farted yet? Like, everyone's like, over, walking, it's it's interesting,

Yeah, it's just like places cause people say and parts, it, parts people say of of it,

the, uh, Will and Grace cast, you were one of the easiest to work with, but so that's an interesting story.

yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, terrific. I'll I'll corroborate that.

I can corroborate that. Yeah, just Oh,

to talk fitness for a sec, yeah, go ahead, uh, Danny. before you get out of here. Uh, you said, like, you go to the trainer and you hate it, but you continue to do it because you are. A t. Explain to us, are you seeing results? are you? Cause one thing we and Adam talk about a lot is like, when you were younger, you didn't believe anyone who said, like, if I don't exercise, I feel crazy.

That sounds stupid. Now I do feel that I get

yeah, I do. depressed after day four Yes, I

of not exercising.

do. I I agree, and it's like, you know, just I'm I, and this is you guys are catching me. Like, this is just in the past, like two months or month. I'm like, actually look forward a little bit. Go like, I fucking hate it, but when I'm there, I'm so glad I went, and knowing that feeling makes me go back. It's like the results. Uh, yeah, I am feeling results for the first time in a long time.

And mentally is just as important.

Yeah, for sure. And you get back to, you know, your physique that you used to have when you were a little bit younger. You know what I mean? And you're like, Oh, this is like, I'm looking, you know, when you take your shirt off, you're not so depressed anymore. Oh God, You know what I mean?

I look forward to that day. I'm still I'm gonna don't be lazy, light a candle, Johnny. I'm bad, I'm gonna light baby. a candle.

Sorry, I got super depressed and had to shut my my camera off. I'm a pregnant,

I'm, I'm a, I'm a pregnant cow. I gotta take my shirt off. I'm a fucking yeah, no, but like,

aren't you guys? Don't you guys feel like you're on your way to, like, getting back into, like, what you used to look like? Yeah,

I, I feel better in the last since we started getting our this podcast, lives together with this podcast. I feel a ton better. I don't know if I look a ton better, like You do, I, I've been saying a even bet lot, like I

even better, buddy.

feel I feel like I. I work so hard to look like shit that it's like, it's. It's truly frustrating, but that may just be that may be okay, as long as I'm here, you know, I've been saying like, okay,

I'm aging like a fine toilet wine.

do do do you wait, John, do you have a girlfriend?

Uh, no, I'm, uh, p- post-divorced, I in the streets, and the sheets, I guess.

Yeah, okay, got it. I was gonna say, so, so, Adam, this is for you I'm married, then, dude,

I I'm married and I have a girlfriend.

right, right. Okay, what? The f- that's perfect. Okay, let me ask you, do both of them care about enough to to give you notes about how you look before you leave the house? Or are you just like, No, I don't wanna hear it. I'm just wearing a T-shirt and this is what my hair looks like, and I'm this is I don't care.

Oh, no, no, the f- the first, You ha- you have uh,

to put yourself together.

yeah, yeah, yeah, d I can't. And if e- even if I like, take a swing, like the other day, I I bought this, like, uh, green t-shirt, right? It's not, it's not wild. There's I have no logo

a white Amish girlfriend.

there's no logo on it, there's no. It's just like, not white and not black, it's it's green, green, it's like mint green. And I wore it downstairs at, like, seven in the morning, uh, on the way to take the kids to school. And my wife goes, You're going to that meeting like that? And I was like, What? and she's like, I thought you had a meeting later. I was like, I do, and she's like, And you're wearing what is that T-shirt?

I was like, I what? I just got this. She's like, you just got that. I was like, Okay, okay, I like

And then you have to change, yeah,

and I have to change. Because then the whole day, I'll be like, Is this T-shirt really bad? Like, really Well, you can bad? say, you can tell I'm divorced,

cause I have a fucking oh, that's a great kids T-shirt. cartoon shirt on. Yeah, what are you

gonna tell?

There's this designer named Wizard of Barge, who does these really cool, kind of, like, art that's cool. things. Yeah, Yeah, we're

and you can tell I'm living the married because my mother-in-law sleeps in my office.

is that your wife? is that true?

yeah, oh, what? what? Uh, that's why you've been so quiet this whole. Oh, she's She's, she's asleep.

Sleeping right now?

Yeah, but it we t but she's actually awake, but the aids, Is that the hearing aids are down.

is that? is that the girl? When you said wife and girlfriend?

Buddy, one of them. Uh, anyway, wow, Sean, thank that's You're the you so much for best, Sean.

coming on, Staying Alive. has been amazing. Thank But yeah, you. Yeah, pal. Yeah, Thank you. This was this is, that's awesome. fun.

you guys are awesome, you're doing such a great job. I, you know, you're two of the funniest people on the face of the planet. Well, we'll see you And, uh,

at the next People Magazine Sexiest, Uh, Men of the Year, uh, great, I'm on issue.

my way now. I'm ordering We're not it now,

sexy, it's a podcast.

we're we're ordering this T-shirt. Sexiest You're wearing that that's the T-shirt, T-shirt.

that's the T-shirt. Yeah, what, what? I'm Just letting out a fine, I just big fart don't next to Jason Momoa thought about it. But yeah,

before he goes in to take your photo.

Momoa, you wanna get pumped up? Momoa I'm not drinking that much anymore, so

balance, dude, balance.

it's all about balance. He's like, What? Hey, Jack, I'm trying to work on my lines. All right, all right, dude, well, take Thank you so much, care.

thanks guys.

Sean, man, that was fun. I do, like, he's such a pro podcaster. Like, I think three times, he's like, So, my nutrition plan is as simple Well, he was definitely as

like checking my watch. He at one time, I think he l- leaned in to look at my watch, he had. He once like, How long he said, he was it?

said, I feel bad you guys are going long. I was like, hint taken, brother.

Yeah, I did wanna get into a little bit more of his weed intake, but

Yeah, I know well. Now we have a new goal is to get high with the boss.

with Sean. Yeah, we've gotta Yeah, cause, like, I've done that with Will, and his version is like eating ice cream in Sag Harbor.

nah. Hey, that sounds like a fucking And it's fine, great, yeah,

but it's like, I wanna get stoned,

yeah, I wanna get high with Sean. I think I would fucking, uh, laugh to the point of cheeks hurting, hanging out with him, fucking dude. He reminds stoned.

me so much of, like, there's certain guys that you meet. I feel like we've. We brought this name up all the time, like Tim Meadows, or there are just certain guys like that. Like, we could make a list of in our lives, in our collective, like, career and lives, that they just make you laugh. Like, you could just sit with them and say something, and whatever they say back will make you laugh. And I feel like Sean Hayes, Tim Meadows, like, that's the top of that list.

yeah, oh man, this gonna be a fucking. I'm like, uh, pretending like it actually is happening. I'm like, Oh man, this gonna be so fun. We should have a staying alive rap party, we should make, uh, and put together a staying alive rap party.

that would be so good, no one would show up. I know Stay alive.

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Don't reach out to us, see us on the street, walk the other way, or you'll catch hands. I like, we Yeah,

should create a mystique around Jason now that he's the only boss that hasn't done it. That, like, he's kind of, uh, he's, he's like, he's our, uh, we have beef with him.

well, I emailed Jason to come on, and he said he won't come on until we put a full blue tint on the video.

He, he says, Make it go, make it go, Ozark for me.

Yeah, he needs it to be more Ozark.

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