The U.S. oil industry has earned over $130 billion since the U.S. and Israel started a war in Iran, according to the hosts.
“The U.S. oil industry has earned over $130 billion since the U.S. and Israel started a war in Iran.”

31 Oct 2026 · 15m · Ayesha Rascoe, Scott Simon, Willa Rubin, Rafael Nam, Will Stone, Barry Popkin · 20 quoted facts
Record oil-company profits, a record cryptocurrency theft and a mixed report card on the Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) movement all show the same thing: events outside ordinary people's control are producing winners and losers. The war in Iran has lifted oil prices and company earnings. The Binance hack exposed how little protection crypto customers have. MAHA's activists say the Trump administration is not delivering on its own promises.
The main tension is between promises and results. Oil executives say they are trying to ease prices, yet they are returning cash to shareholders. Crypto firms want light regulation, and critics say that leaves customers exposed. MAHA backers wanted fewer chemicals and less chronic disease, but they now accuse the EPA of weakening protections and see corporate interests moving in. With the midterms days away, each story asks who bears the cost.
Brent crude trades near $113 a barrel versus about $70 before the war, because Middle East supply is limited while demand has barely changed. Exxon's earnings doubled and Chevron's rose 180%.
Willa Rubin says much of the windfall goes to dividends and stock buybacks rather than new drilling projects. Oil is a cyclical industry, so companies hold cash in good times to cushion the bad.
Unlike stock exchanges, where customers keep assets with an audited, insured broker, crypto exchanges let users hold coins in accounts at the exchange itself. Critics say that makes them tempting targets and invites misuse of client money.
Rafael Nam says regulators were strict under the Biden administration, but the Trump administration has promised lighter oversight. He reports consumer advocates are telling Americans 'buyer beware'.
Activists say the EPA weakened protections on forever chemicals and glyphosate, and the administration backed Roundup's maker in a Supreme Court case. Some are also dismayed by corporate figures at a MAHA summit.
The war in Iran has cut the amount of oil coming out of the Middle East, while demand has barely changed. That pushed Brent crude to about $113 a barrel from about $70, and companies producing in the U.S., Latin America and Europe sell their oil at those higher prices.
Probably not quickly. Shell's CEO said global inventories are being drawn down very fast and will take a long time to refill, and Willa Rubin says it is hard to see prices falling until reserves are replenished.
It is a tax on excess profits that come from outside events, such as a war, rather than from company decisions. Some Democrats want one so that some of the money goes to Americans, while Exxon's CEO has called it a misguided policy.
A group widely believed to be North Korea's military broke into customer accounts at Binance, and many details are still unknown. Binance has promised to repay anyone who lost money and says it has frozen about $3 billion of the stolen crypto.
The results are mixed. New dietary guidelines are seen as a win, but activists say the EPA has weakened chemical protections. Nutrition professor Barry Popkin sees no evidence of measurable progress against chronic disease and points to measles and foodborne outbreaks.
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The U.S. oil industry has earned over $130 billion since the U.S. and Israel started a war in Iran, according to the hosts.
“The U.S. oil industry has earned over $130 billion since the U.S. and Israel started a war in Iran.”
Exxon doubled its earnings year over year, Shell nearly doubled its earnings in its second-highest quarter ever, and Chevron's earnings rose 180%.
“Exxon said that it doubled its earnings compared to this time last year. Shell nearly doubled. It was their second highest quarterly earnings ever. Chevron's earnings were up 180%.”
Brent crude traded around $113 a barrel, compared with about $70 before the war in Iran.
“A barrel of Brent crude is now trading around $113 a barrel. Before the war, it was about seventy.”
Oil companies are directing much of their extra cash to dividends and stock buybacks rather than new drilling projects.
“A good chunk is going to their shareholders through dividends and stock buybacks. But these companies are not really spending a ton on things like new drilling projects.”
Oil executives cited both the war in Iran and Ukrainian strikes on Russian refineries, which took capacity offline, as causes of a supply shock.
“Executives from all the companies pointed out that they're dealing with a massive supply shock, you know, not only the war in Iran, but also Ukraine's strikes on Russian oil refineries that have taken a lot of capacity offline.”
On Shell's earnings call, its CEO said he had thought the high oil prices of six months earlier were a temporary spike.
“On Shell's earnings call, CEO Wael Sohn said that he thought high oil prices six months ago was a temporary spike”
Exxon CEO Darren Woods called windfall profit taxes a misguided policy last quarter.
“last quarter, Exxon CEO Darren Woods called them a misguided policy.”
The Trump administration waived sanctions on Russia to let more fuel reach the market and loosened federal rules on a type of farm diesel.
“They've waived sanctions on Russia to allow them to move more fuel onto the market. They loosened federal rules on a type of diesel used for farming”
Hackers stole $6.3 billion in cryptocurrency in about 20 minutes.
“it took hackers about 20 minutes to steal $6.3 billion in cryptocurrency this week”
Binance promised to repay customers who lost money and says it has frozen about $3 billion of the stolen cryptocurrency.
“Binance has promised to repay anybody who lost money and is working hard at recovering as much of it as it can. The company says they've managed to freeze about $3 billion of the stolen crypto.”
Amanda Fisher of Better Markets said stock investors keep funds with a broker audited and regulated by the SEC, unlike customers who hold crypto at the exchange itself.
“You may trade on the New York Stock Exchange, but you don't keep your funds with the New York Stock Exchange, you keep it with your broker. And your broker is audited and regulated by the SEC”
The crypto exchange FTX collapsed in 2022 after dipping into client funds.
“this has happened before, including most prominently with crypto exchange FTX, which collapsed in spectacular fashion in 2022.”
Regulators took a strict approach to crypto under the Biden administration, while the Trump administration has promised lighter regulation.
“under the Biden administration, regulators took a really strict approach to the crypto sector, but the Trump administration has promised a much lighter regulatory approach.”
The new dietary guidelines encourage more saturated fat without changing the limits, advise avoiding processed foods and raise daily protein goals.
“encouraging people to eat more saturated fat, uh, though they didn't actually change the limits, and to avoid processed foods, they did raise the daily goals for protein.”
Kelly Ryerson is a MAHA activist focused on pesticides who runs a nonprofit called American Regeneration.
“She's a Maha activist, mostly focused on pesticides and runs a nonprofit called American Regeneration.”
Glyphosate is the main ingredient in the weed killer Roundup.
“the pesticide glyphosate, the main ingredient in the weed killer Roundup.”
President Trump signed an executive order encouraging domestic production of glyphosate.
“And Trump signed an executive order encouraging domestic production of the pesticide”
After the 2024 election, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said on NPR that Trump expected measurable progress in reducing chronic diseases within two years.
“Kennedy came on NPR in November, right after the 2024 election, and he said Trump expected measurable progress in reducing chronic diseases in two years.”
Barry Popkin is a nutrition professor at the University of North Carolina Gillings School of Public Health.
“Barry Popkin. He's a professor of nutrition at the University of North Carolina Gillings School of Public Health.”
A recent high-profile MAHA summit in Washington, D.C. featured many figures from corporate America.
“there was recently a high-profile Maha summit in D.C. and it was stacked with figures from corporate America.”
Exxon, Shell and Chevron report sharply higher profits as the war cuts Middle East supply and lifts crude prices.
“Exxon said that it doubled its earnings compared to this time last year.”
Companies favor shareholder payouts over new drilling, and executives warn depleted inventories mean prices will stay high.
“global oil reserves are really depleted”
Some Democrats want to tax excess profits, while the administration's diesel measures are expected to do little before Election Day.
“some of them have pushed to create a tax on windfall profits”
Hackers believed to be North Korean's military drained customer accounts, and Binance says it has frozen part of the loot.
“broke into accounts that investors hold at Binance to trade cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin”
Customers keep funds at the exchange itself, without the audits and insurance that a regulated broker provides.
“you don't keep your funds with the New York Stock Exchange”
Despite the size of the theft, the Trump administration's light-touch approach means major new rules look unlikely.
“the Trump administration has promised a much lighter regulatory approach”
Supporters count the new dietary guidelines as a win but accuse the EPA of weakening chemical protections.
“one obvious victory were the new dietary guidelines”
The administration's backing of Roundup's maker disappointed MAHA supporters, and an expert sees no sign of reduced chronic disease.
“backed the company that makes Roundup in a high-profile Supreme Court case”
MAHA activists object to corporate figures at a MAHA summit and say the brand may need to change after the midterms.
“there's real tension here around who speaks for this movement beyond Kennedy”
The U.S. oil industry has earned over $130 billion since the U.S. and Israel started a war in Iran.
Profits are three times higher than during the same period last year.
I'm Ayesha Rascoe.
And I'm Scott Simon, and this is Up First from NPR News.
ExxonMobil and Chevron report their best earnings in years, while the price of gasoline takes a bigger bite out of people's paychecks.
Also, it took hackers about 20 minutes to steal $6.3 billion in cryptocurrency this week.
And how clean is our diet, our water, soil and air since Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s crusade for a healthier America? We check in on the Maha movement.
So please stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your weekend.
Oil companies are reporting another quarter of sky-high profits as the war in Iran pushes up the price of oil.
NPR's energy reporter Willa Rubin has been listening to their earnings calls. She joins us now. Thanks for being with us, Willa.
Thanks for having me.
What kind of profits did these companies report?
Well, we're talking about a lot of money. Exxon said that it doubled its earnings compared to this time last year. Shell nearly doubled. It was their second highest quarterly earnings ever. Chevron's earnings were up 180%.
Is it all because the war in Iran has disrupted the oil supply?
That is a really big piece of it. It's limited the amount of oil that's coming out of the Middle East. You know, our demand for oil hasn't changed much. We need it to heat our homes and drive our cars and run our tractors and truck everything we buy around the country. A barrel of Brent crude is now trading around $113 a barrel. Before the war, it was about seventy. Here's what energy analyst Dan Pickering says these high prices have meant for the oil companies.
The majors are able to sell their barrels that they produce in the U.S. or Latin America or Europe for much higher prices. So the Middle East's loss is generally the gain of oil and gas companies in U.S. and Europe.
And do we know what they're doing with all that money?
A good chunk is going to their shareholders through dividends and stock buybacks. But these companies are not really spending a ton on things like new drilling projects. You know, oil is a cyclical industry. Prices move up and down. Companies want to hold onto that cash when times are good so that they can insulate themselves when they're not so good.
Oil companies are making huge profits just as drivers are paying so much to fill up their tanks. Did any of these executives directly address this pain to consumers?
Well, Exxon CEO Darren Woods was one of the few to take this on during his company's earnings call. We recognize the impact high prices have on people's lives and economic growth. And Exxon's solution, he said, is to produce as much as they can to bring more fuel to market. With products in short supply, our teams have done everything they can to keep prices down by maximizing production. Chevron CEO Mike Wirth said something similar.
What we can do is what we can control, and that's help consumers get as much as they possibly can out of our systems.
Executives from all the companies pointed out that they're dealing with a massive supply shock, you know, not only the war in Iran, but also Ukraine's strikes on Russian oil refineries that have taken a lot of capacity offline.
Did any of the executives say if they think oil prices would come down anytime soon?
They said because the war has gone on this long, global oil reserves are really depleted. On Shell's earnings call, CEO Wael Sohn said that he thought high oil prices six months ago was a temporary spike, but he said
We are seeing that inventory levels are being drawn down very quickly, and it's going to take quite some time to be able to refill that inventory.
meaning it's hard to see how oil prices will come down until those reserves get replenished.
What kind of political reaction is there? Has there been against these high profits?
Well, we are a few days out from the midterms. If Democrats gain control of Congress, this may not be the first thing on their agenda, but some of them have pushed to create a tax on windfall profits. These are excess profits that come about because of geopolitical forces outside of companies' control. The idea is to give some of those profits to Americans. I talked to economist Isabella Weber, she is at UMass Amherst. She says windfall taxes are a way to bridge the gap between what oil companies make and what most people pay for that oil.
This is, uh, I think, uh, good economic policy in an energy shock situation where you get these redistribution dynamics amidst a very deep cost of living crisis.
While the executives didn't mention windfall taxes, um, on these calls, last quarter, Exxon CEO Darren Woods called them a misguided policy. He said they penalize companies that are trying to be successful in a volatile industry. Now, the Trump administration is trying to lower the price of diesel. They've waived sanctions on Russia to allow them to move more fuel onto the market. They loosened federal rules on a type of diesel used for farming, but experts have told me these moves probably won't make much of a difference, and not before Tuesday.
And there's Willa Rubin. Thanks so much.
Thank you.
The largest crypto heist in history this week, the cryptocurrency exchange Binance, was hacked. Billions of dollars are missing.
The hack comes as the crypto industry has been trying to get a little more respectability. The Trump administration has been friendly in regulating it, but critics warn that cryptocurrency is the wild west of finance, and this massive hack of Binance proves it.
NPR senior business editor Rafael Nam joins us. Rafael, thanks for being with us. Hey Scott, How did this happen? How did they lose so much money?
I know it's a staggering amount. So a group of hackers widely believed to be the North Hm. Korean military broke into accounts that investors hold at Binance to trade cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin, and then stole their money essentially. Now, now Binance has promised to repay anybody who lost money and is working hard at recovering as much of it as it can. The company says they've managed to freeze about $3 billion of the stolen crypto.
You don't often hear about so much money being taken stolen from a financial exchange. How did it happen?
So there's still a lot we don't know, Scott, and it's too early to say whether there were any major major flaws in Binance's security system. If anything, researchers I talked to say it may have more to do with how sophisticated North Korean hackers are, but the one thing critics did point out is that the way these crypto exchanges are set up deserves some scrutiny here. What's peculiar is that at crypto exchanges, Hm. you can not only buy and sell Bitcoin, for example, you can also hold that Bitcoin at a trading account at the exchange itself.
That's a very unique and risky feature that makes it different from traditional stock exchanges, according to Amanda Fisher from financial advocacy group Better Markets. You may trade on the New York Stock Exchange, but you don't keep your funds with the New York Stock Exchange, you keep it with your broker. And your broker is audited and regulated by the SEC, and your broker has to pay for insurance that will make customers whole in the event that there's a cyberattack.
So, Rafael, what are the consequences when crypto exchanges become this kind of one-stop shop for trading?
Well, first, it makes crypto exchanges a tempting target for hackers. You know, Scott, it's kinda like the famous quote attributed to Robert Willie Sutton, when asked why he targeted banks, he supposedly said, Because that's where the money is. And second, although Binance has said they will pay back investors who lost money, they don't necessarily have to offer the same protections as established financial institutions, and that can lead to risky behavior by crypto exchanges. This is Fisher again.
It can become almost irresistible to dip into those client funds just this one time, you know, is what they say, to cover their losses, but we know that that can cascade into catastrophe for investors. And I should say this has happened before, including most prominently with crypto exchange FTX, which collapsed in spectacular fashion in 2022.
Why don't crypto exchanges have to follow the same rules as Wall Street?
So this one drives crypto critics crazy. They think the crypto sector is trying to have it both ways. Exchanges like Binance say Hm. they are safe venues and they don't, and they deny they do anything shady, but they also don't want to follow the same rules as Wall Street firms. They say this is a young and promising industry that needs easier regulations to grow. Hm.
Could a theft of this magnitude lead to changes?
Probably not is what I'm hearing. Scott, under the Biden administration, regulators took a really strict approach to the crypto sector, but the Trump administration has promised a much lighter regulatory approach. So many consumer advocates consistently tell Americans, when it comes to crypto, buyer beware.
Rafael, thanks for being with us.
Thank you, Scott.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Donald Trump joined forces just over two years ago, promising to make America healthy again, or MAHA. They had a grand agenda to bring down the rates of chronic disease, reform the food system, and clean up harmful chemicals.
To see how they've delivered on these promises, NPR health correspondent Will Stone joins us now. Good morning, Will.
Hey, Aisha, good to be here.
How do folks who support the Maha platform feel about the last two years? Uh, can you run us through some of their promises?
Yeah, it's mixed. Uh, one obvious victory were the new dietary guidelines. These were a real departure from the previous
ones, and they reflect the Maha philosophy, encouraging people to eat more saturated fat, uh, though they didn't actually change the limits, and to avoid processed foods, they did raise the daily goals for protein. But when you look at how this administration has handled other issues around food and, more broadly, our water, our air, which all gets bundled under concerns around toxic chemicals, uh, some say the track record is not great if you grade them by their own, uh, Maha rubric.
Encouraging people to eat more saturated fat, though they didn't actually change the limits, and to avoid processed foods, they did raise the daily goals for protein. But when you look at how this administration has handled other issues around food and, more broadly, our water, our air, which all gets bundled under concerns around toxic chemicals, some say the track record is not great if you grade them by their own Maha rubric.
Oh, well, what happened?
Yeah, well, here's what I heard from Kelly Ryerison. She's a Maha activist, mostly focused on pesticides and runs a nonprofit called American Regeneration. I cannot think of a single good thing that the EPA has done during this administration. Instead, they've rolled back protections, drinking water from forever chemicals, they've approved pesticides that have no business being approved.
It sounds like they've really upset some people.
You bet. And you can hear Ryerson is focusing on the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, because that agency shapes a lot of this policy. And what's striking is that some of the chemicals identified in the Trump administration's own Maha report as possibly harmful for children's health are the same ones EPA has moved to weaken protections around.
What chemicals are we talking about here?
So a big example here is the pesticide glyphosate, the main ingredient in the weed killer Roundup. Now, in this case, many in this movement have wanted to see meaningful action on glyphosate because of cancer concerns. Instead, the Trump administration backed the company that makes Roundup in a high-profile Supreme Court case, which the company ultimately won. And Trump signed an executive order encouraging domestic production of the pesticide, and that's disenchanted a lot of Maha supporters.
The goal of changing our food supply and reducing chemicals was to help reduce chronic diseases. I is that what they're hoping for?
Yeah, actually, Kennedy came on NPR in November, right after the 2024 election, and he said Trump expected measurable progress in reducing chronic diseases in two years. Uh, so I called up an expert on this, Barry Popkin. He's a professor of nutrition at the University of North Carolina Gillings School of Public Health. He said he doesn't see any evidence that this has happened. Here's his assessment of how they've done.
They've raised a lot of important issues pesticides about ultra-processed foods. They've also done a number of things which are terribly dangerous. They've really unleashed
A group of people in this country that will not get vaccinated. We've seen major measles outbreaks. Also pointed to some of the large foodborne illness outbreaks that have affected thousands of Americans in the last year or two.
Well, what's Maha hoping for next?
Well, there's real tension here around who speaks for this movement beyond Kennedy. For example, there was recently a high-profile Maha summit in D.C. and it was stacked with figures from corporate America. Kelly Ryerison told me she was mortified. I don't even recognize this iteration of Maha. It it was so confusing to see all these corporate interests when very specifically the grassrooters want out of the Maha movement is to get corporations out of the way. And she says the Maha brand may need to evolve in 2027, uh, depending on how things shake out in the midterms.
That's NPR health correspondent Will Stone. Thank you so much.
Thank you.
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