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91 facts from 6 episodes, in date order. These are what speakers said on the shows, each linked to the moment it was said. They aren't independently verified.

2002

Mike Cannon-Brookes says the first version of Atlassian's Jira was a bug tracker aimed at technical teams.

“The very first version of Jira was actually a bug tracker, which was definitely for far more technical parts of technical teams.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 0:00:15

2010

Around 2010, when it first considered going public, Atlassian had roughly $50 million in revenue and $20 million in profit, according to Cannon-Brookes.

“we were probably eight, nine years old as a business. I think we were doing call it $50 million in revenue and probably $20 million in profit”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 0:53:40

2026

Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian's Team '26 Europe conference in Amsterdam was about ten days away at the time of recording.

“Uh, we have a biannual conference, our team, twenty six, E U in Amsterdam, uh, in ten days time”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 1:18:38

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Cannon-Brookes says more than half of Atlassian's users work in non-technical teams and have for over a decade.

“More than half of our users are in non-technical teams, uh, and have been for well over a decade.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 0:06:05

Undated

Cannon-Brookes says the teamwork graph holds over 100 billion objects and connections and is growing rapidly quarter on quarter.

“It's now a massive graph. It's north of 100 billion objects and connections, and it's going up at like, I think it's growing like north of 50 quarter on quarter”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 0:15:28

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Cannon-Brookes says Atlassian has always treated monthly active users as its top metric, rather than customer count or seats sold.

“So we've always tracked monthly active users as our number one metric.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 0:18:38

Undated

Cannon-Brookes says AI coding tools could cost thousands of dollars per developer in token costs, versus roughly $50 a head for the older IDEA editor.

“Now I have the potential to spend thousands of dollars per developer in token costs across lots of tools.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 0:26:17

Undated

Atlassian makes Rovo Dev, Claude Code, Cursor and GitHub Copilot available to its engineers and compares them using DX.

“between, like, robo dev, Claude code, cursor and GitHub copilot, of which we have all four, uh, for for engineers here.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 0:30:43

Undated

Atlassian's research and development organization has over 10,000 people, giving it a large sample for comparing coding tools.

“we have, you know, R and D orgs is over 10,000 people, so we have lots of statistical data on them.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 0:31:10

Undated

Cannon-Brookes says Atlassian's AI gateway runs more than 75 models in production, and Rovo Dev typically uses two or three per conversation turn.

“our AI gateway has, I've lost count now, it's north of 75 models running in it in production.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 0:34:09

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Cannon-Brookes says Atlassian's latest quarter saw revenue growth of about 21% and cloud growth of 26%.

“we grew revenue twenty, twenty, change percent, uh, 21%, I believe. Our cloud business, which is our largest business, grew 26%”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 0:56:38

Undated

Atlassian's other co-founder retired last year and championed the idea that businesses must balance seeding future growth against harvesting current revenue.

“my my co founder, who retired, uh, last year, um, was very keen on is is you've got to manage in any business the difference between seeding and harvesting.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools, 1:04:43

Undated

Tamar Yehoshua says Atlassian's tests showed that coding agents using its teamwork graph produced 44% better quality and used 48% fewer tokens than using MCP alone.

“Increased by forty four, and very importantly, the token usage went down by forty eight. Because you don't have to give as much context to the model”

Tamar Yehoshua · How Snap Built a Production System Where Agents Write 90% of Code, 0:08:31

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Atlassian CEO Mike Cannon-Brooks became an enthusiastic user of OpenClaw and built agents to run his personal life, then told his executive team to try it.

“our CEO, Mike Cannon-Brooks, uh, when OpenClaw came out, got super pilled on OpenClaw and was like building, uh, agents to run his personal life and still does.”

Tamar Yehoshua · How Snap Built a Production System Where Agents Write 90% of Code, 0:45:20

Undated

Atlassian launched an AI planner that turns a prompt into a spec, technical document and work items using its context graph before work goes to a coding agent.

“we just launched what we call the AI planner, so the AI planner is, uh, is what you would do to identify what goes into the coding agent.”

Tamar Yehoshua · How Snap Built a Production System Where Agents Write 90% of Code, 0:36:58

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Tamar Yehoshua says Atlassian products such as Jira and Confluence run millions of rule-based automations every month, and many now call AI agents.

“We run millions of automations every month and they're automations like when a bug comes in of this type, then do this with it.”

Tamar Yehoshua · How Snap Built a Production System Where Agents Write 90% of Code, 0:14:00

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Tamar Yehoshua says she replaced monthly OKR (objectives and key results) meetings with an agent that reviews Confluence, Jira and Slack and reports which goals are green or red.

“I, for example, no longer have monthly OKR meetings. I have an agent that runs that gives me the updated OKRs”

Tamar Yehoshua · How Snap Built a Production System Where Agents Write 90% of Code, 0:42:58

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Atlassian's teamwork graph is a per-customer context graph that builds up as the customer uses Atlassian tools.

“We have something called the teamwork graph, so the teamwork graph is the context graph that we build for each customer, for their organization, and just by using our tools, it builds your graph.”

Tamar Yehoshua · Atlassian Chief AI Officer: Building Products for Agents and Humans, 0:05:50

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Atlassian used the teamwork graph in its products before the AI era and significantly increased investment as AI grew.

“it's something that we've had actually before AI, we were using, uh, in our products, and then as AI became more prevalent, we have significantly increased our investment in the teamwork graph.”

Tamar Yehoshua · Atlassian Chief AI Officer: Building Products for Agents and Humans, 0:05:50

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Yehoshua says Atlassian has 370,000 customers and is used by 85 of the Fortune 500, with some running their most critical workflows on it.

“we have 370,000 customers. We, um, are in eighty five of the Fortune 500 people run, uh, their their tier zero workflows on Atlassian.”

Tamar Yehoshua · Atlassian Chief AI Officer: Building Products for Agents and Humans, 0:31:43

Undated

Atlassian CEO Mike Cannon-Brooks became enthusiastic about OpenClaw and built agents to run his personal life, and he told the executive team to try it.

“our CEO, Mike Cannon-Brooks, uh, when OpenClaw came out, got super pilled on OpenClaw and was like building, uh, agents to run his personal life and still does.”

Tamar Yehoshua · Atlassian Chief AI Officer: Building Products for Agents and Humans, 0:45:20

Undated

Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian grew about 30% in the most recent quarter on a roughly $7 billion run rate, its fastest growth in about two years.

“We grew thirty odd percent last quarter on 7 billion dollar run rate, um, which is the fastest we've grown in about two years.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 0:33:17

March

Nilay Patel said Atlassian laid off about 10% of the company in March, announced in a Loom video by Mike Cannon-Brookes.

“In March, you laid off about 10% of the company. I watched the video you made in in Loom about that.”

Nilay Patel · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 0:31:21

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Mike Cannon-Brookes said about 60% of Atlassian employees come to an office three or more days a week, while 25% never come in.

“About 60% of people come in three days a week or more. Um, but 25% of people don't come in a single day per week.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 0:16:12

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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian started with operations in both Australia and San Francisco, making it a globally distributed company from the start.

“When you start in Australia and San Francisco, you kinda get used to the Pacific Ocean being a little bit distribution.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 0:16:40

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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian currently has two chief technology officers, each paired with a chief product officer over a large product group.

“So we have a CRO, we have a CFO, we have, uh, two CTOs at the moment.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 0:17:10

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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian's internal IT and engineering function now reports to its chief people officer, combining talent and systems work for AI adoption.

“Uh, now reports to our chief people officer, and I've combined those two roles, which is unusual.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 0:29:29

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Nilay Patel said Atlassian acquired The Browser Company for a little over $600 million about a year before the interview.

“You acquired a company called the Browser Company, uh, I think, for a little over 600 million. That was a a year ago.”

Nilay Patel · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 1:02:05

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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian customers who use its MCP servers and command-line tools grow their annual recurring revenue with Atlassian at twice the rate of those who don't.

“They grow their ARR at twice the rate of customers who don't use our AR, our, uh, CLI and MCP servers.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 0:55:50

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Mike Cannon-Brookes said more than 98% of people using Atlassian's MCP server also use its regular user interface.

“More than 98% of people using our MCP server also use the user interface, and that is not changing, right?”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 0:59:05

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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian built an MCP server and command-line tool for its publicly published design system at Atlassian.design.

“we now have an MCP and a CLI for our design system internally we have a award winning design system uh Atlassian dot design”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 0:38:42

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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Dia's morning brief, which summarizes a user's calendar, messages and documents, runs locally on the user's machine rather than in the cloud.

“And it happens locally, it happens in on, it doesn't happen in the cloud, it happens on your machine.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 1:11:14

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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Dia was in beta on Windows with general availability expected soon, and was already widely used on Mac.

“It's in beta on Windows G A's very, very soon, um, and it's used on the Mac by a huge number of people on a daily basis”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 1:08:12

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Mike Cannon-Brookes said he tells large customers not to centralize everything on the Atlassian platform and positions Atlassian as a connected hub rather than a control tower.

“I am probably the only C E O that goes into customers, massive, large scale customers, and says, do not centralize everything on my platform.”

Mike Cannon-Brookes · The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO, 0:56:50

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