2002
Mike Cannon-Brookes says the first version of Atlassian's Jira was a bug tracker aimed at technical teams.
“The very first version of Jira was actually a bug tracker, which was definitely for far more technical parts of technical teams.”
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91 facts from 6 episodes, in date order. These are what speakers said on the shows, each linked to the moment it was said. They aren't independently verified.
2002
Mike Cannon-Brookes says the first version of Atlassian's Jira was a bug tracker aimed at technical teams.
“The very first version of Jira was actually a bug tracker, which was definitely for far more technical parts of technical teams.”
2010
Around 2010, when it first considered going public, Atlassian had roughly $50 million in revenue and $20 million in profit, according to Cannon-Brookes.
“we were probably eight, nine years old as a business. I think we were doing call it $50 million in revenue and probably $20 million in profit”
2010
Cannon-Brookes says that around 2010 a company needed roughly $100 million in revenue to go public.
“At that time, you needed about 100 million bucks in revenue to go public.”
2019
Atlassian began building its teamwork graph, which maps links between work objects across apps, around 2019.
“we started maybe six, I think 2019, building what we call the teamwork graph.”
2026
Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian's Team '26 Europe conference in Amsterdam was about ten days away at the time of recording.
“Uh, we have a biannual conference, our team, twenty six, E U in Amsterdam, uh, in ten days time”
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Linder cited the CEO of Atlassian saying everyone must adopt AI as a reason companies require AI skills.
“It's hard to ignore when you hear somebody like the CEO of Atlassian being like, everyone has to do this, right?”
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Nathan, the host, states that Atlassian is among the top one hundred global tech companies with a market capitalization of about 40 billion dollars.
“Atlassian is a top one hundred global tech company with 40 billion dollar market cap.”
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Sherif Mansour says most of Atlassian's users today work in non-technical departments such as HR, finance, marketing and legal.
“So today, the majority of our users are actually from non-technical departments, HR, finance, marketing, legal, and all that.”
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Sherif Mansour says Atlassian has close to 3.5 million users of its AI capabilities.
“we've got close to, I think we're 3.5 million users of our AI capabilities”
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Atlassian's Rovo chat tool has built-in personal memory that learns a user's preferences, such as Sherif Mansour's habit of putting emoji in headings.
“we've got inbuilt personal memory. So over time we start to remember, you know, for me, I like to write with a lot of emoji.”
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Sherif Mansour says Atlassian's products such as Confluence and Jira default to open access, and he argues this helps AI give useful answers to new employees.
“our products are open by default. And I have to explain that a little bit. When you create a documentation space in Confluence or a Jira project or whatever it is, the default is open”
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Atlassian's Teamwork Graph maps users, teams, goals and the work items related to them.
“we have what we call the team graph, which is an understanding of all the users, the teams, their goals, and how the work relates to that.”
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Sherif Mansour says Atlassian uses retrieval-augmented generation rather than its graph for simple lookups such as a company's annual leave process.
“what's the process for taking annual leave in my company? RAG's probably a much better solution there. We don't traverse the graph for that.”
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Atlassian operates an AI gateway that proxies a mix of locally hosted and cloud models so it can swap models and test alternatives.
“We have an AI gateway, and we have a mix of locally hosted models, models in the cloud.”
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Atlassian's agent framework lets customers give agents skills, which can be no-code or code, including deterministic functions.
“Our agent framework lets people create skills that the agent has. The skills can be no code or code skills.”
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Sherif Mansour says general-purpose models solve 80 to 90 percent of typical knowledge-worker tasks and that customer demand for choosing a specific model is declining.
“the general purpose models are 80% to 90% easily solving the problem and we're seeing that desire for model selection just decline over time”
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Atlassian acquired The Browser Company, which Nathan describes as aimed at building a browser for knowledge workers.
“Atlassian brought bought a browser company, and it's literally the browser company.”
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Atlassian ran an AI Builders Week in which about a thousand product managers, designers, engineering leaders and researchers blocked time to experiment with AI.
“we just ran a AI Builders Week, a thousand product managers, designers, engineering leaders, researchers.”
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Cannon-Brookes says more than half of Atlassian's users work in non-technical teams and have for over a decade.
“More than half of our users are in non-technical teams, uh, and have been for well over a decade.”
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Cannon-Brookes says Atlassian has existed for almost 24 years and aimed from the start to be a multi-decade technology company.
“we've been around twenty, almost twenty four years now, twenty three.”
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Cannon-Brookes says the teamwork graph holds over 100 billion objects and connections and is growing rapidly quarter on quarter.
“It's now a massive graph. It's north of 100 billion objects and connections, and it's going up at like, I think it's growing like north of 50 quarter on quarter”
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Atlassian said on its latest earnings call that it had passed 3.5 million monthly active users of its AI features.
“we said on our last earnings call, we've passed 3.5 million AI. MAU”
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Cannon-Brookes says Atlassian has always treated monthly active users as its top metric, rather than customer count or seats sold.
“So we've always tracked monthly active users as our number one metric.”
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Cannon-Brookes says AI coding tools could cost thousands of dollars per developer in token costs, versus roughly $50 a head for the older IDEA editor.
“Now I have the potential to spend thousands of dollars per developer in token costs across lots of tools.”
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Cannon-Brookes says Atlassian would spend tens of millions of dollars a year on AI coding tools.
“Tens of millions of dollars that would be spent every year by us on these types of tools.”
Undated
Atlassian makes Rovo Dev, Claude Code, Cursor and GitHub Copilot available to its engineers and compares them using DX.
“between, like, robo dev, Claude code, cursor and GitHub copilot, of which we have all four, uh, for for engineers here.”
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Atlassian's research and development organization has over 10,000 people, giving it a large sample for comparing coding tools.
“we have, you know, R and D orgs is over 10,000 people, so we have lots of statistical data on them.”
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Cannon-Brookes says Atlassian's AI gateway runs more than 75 models in production, and Rovo Dev typically uses two or three per conversation turn.
“our AI gateway has, I've lost count now, it's north of 75 models running in it in production.”
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An internal Atlassian service changed its API, which required updates to more than 500 repositories, done with Rovo Dev and human review.
“We had to change more than 500 repositories internally.”
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Cannon-Brookes predicts Atlassian will employ more developers in five years than today.
“I think we'll have more developers in five years time at Atlassian than we have today.”
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Cannon-Brookes says Atlassian's latest quarter saw revenue growth of about 21% and cloud growth of 26%.
“we grew revenue twenty, twenty, change percent, uh, 21%, I believe. Our cloud business, which is our largest business, grew 26%”
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Atlassian's other co-founder retired last year and championed the idea that businesses must balance seeding future growth against harvesting current revenue.
“my my co founder, who retired, uh, last year, um, was very keen on is is you've got to manage in any business the difference between seeding and harvesting.”
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Tamar Yehoshua says Atlassian's tests showed that coding agents using its teamwork graph produced 44% better quality and used 48% fewer tokens than using MCP alone.
“Increased by forty four, and very importantly, the token usage went down by forty eight. Because you don't have to give as much context to the model”
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Tamar Yehoshua says Atlassian's teamwork graph contains over 200 billion entities with links between them.
“our teamwork graph has over 200 billion, uh, entities in it and there are links between it.”
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Mercedes-Benz has been a customer of the Atlassian product suite for more than ten years, according to Tamar Yehoshua.
“Mercedes-Benz has been a customer of the Atlassian suite for over a decade.”
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An Atlassian Confluence Slides team used Figma's MCP and coding agents to find and fix fourteen design-to-code discrepancies in an hour, work Tamar Yehoshua says would have taken days.
“So they fixed fourteen bugs in an hour, which it would have taken days.”
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Tamar Yehoshua says Atlassian has 370,000 customers, including 85 of the Fortune 500.
“we have 370,000 customers. We, um, are in eighty five of the Fortune 500”
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Atlassian acquired DX, a product that measures AI adoption and developer productivity in engineering teams, in the fall before this interview.
“We also have a product called DX. We acquired them last fall.”
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Forge is Atlassian's marketplace and platform where third parties build apps on top of Atlassian products.
“forge, for people who don't know, it's our marketplace, it's where people build apps on top of Atlassian products.”
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Atlassian uses an AI gateway that routes each request to the most appropriate model for quality, latency and cost instead of relying on a single model.
“we do not use one model in our products, we use a gateway that then routes to the model.”
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Tamar Yehoshua says 70% of projects built during Atlassian's quarterly AI Builders Week continue to be used afterward.
“70% of what's built during Builders Week actually gets used later.”
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Atlassian CEO Mike Cannon-Brooks became an enthusiastic user of OpenClaw and built agents to run his personal life, then told his executive team to try it.
“our CEO, Mike Cannon-Brooks, uh, when OpenClaw came out, got super pilled on OpenClaw and was like building, uh, agents to run his personal life and still does.”
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Atlassian's enterprise offering includes a product called Guard that applies a data sensitivity layer, letting customers exclude certain data or require checks.
“We have a product called Guard in our enterprise offering that does a whole data sensitivity layer.”
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Atlassian launched an AI planner that turns a prompt into a spec, technical document and work items using its context graph before work goes to a coding agent.
“we just launched what we call the AI planner, so the AI planner is, uh, is what you would do to identify what goes into the coding agent.”
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Tamar Yehoshua says Atlassian products such as Jira and Confluence run millions of rule-based automations every month, and many now call AI agents.
“We run millions of automations every month and they're automations like when a bug comes in of this type, then do this with it.”
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Atlassian created a website, teamwork graph dot com, where users can log in and visualize their own teamwork graph.
“But we made a website called teamwork graph dot com so that people could visualize it.”
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Tamar Yehoshua says she replaced monthly OKR (objectives and key results) meetings with an agent that reviews Confluence, Jira and Slack and reports which goals are green or red.
“I, for example, no longer have monthly OKR meetings. I have an agent that runs that gives me the updated OKRs”
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Atlassian's MCP and command-line interfaces expose over 500 tools to AI agents, according to Tamar Yehoshua.
“So, like our MCP and CLIs have over 500 tools from Atlassian that we expose to the agents,”
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Tamar Yehoshua says about 95% of what can be done in Atlassian's user interface can also be done through MCP or CLI.
“We've gotten to the point where 95% of everything you can do in the UI, you can do through MCP or SCLI so that you can access that.”
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Atlassian's MCP and CLI interfaces expose over 500 tools to agents.
“our MCP and CLIs have over 500 tools from Atlassian that we expose to the agents.”
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Atlassian's teamwork graph is a per-customer context graph that builds up as the customer uses Atlassian tools.
“We have something called the teamwork graph, so the teamwork graph is the context graph that we build for each customer, for their organization, and just by using our tools, it builds your graph.”
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Atlassian used the teamwork graph in its products before the AI era and significantly increased investment as AI grew.
“it's something that we've had actually before AI, we were using, uh, in our products, and then as AI became more prevalent, we have significantly increased our investment in the teamwork graph.”
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Atlassian's teamwork graph contains over 200 billion entities with links between them.
“our teamwork graph has over 200 billion, uh, entities in it and there are links between it.”
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In Atlassian's A/B tests, coding agents using the teamwork graph showed 44% higher quality and 48% lower token usage than with MCP alone.
“Increased by forty four, and very importantly, the token usage went down by forty eight.”
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Atlassian offers a product called Guard in its enterprise offering that adds a data sensitivity layer with rules about certain types of data.
“We have a product called Guard in our enterprise offering that does a whole data sensitivity layer.”
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Atlassian's products run millions of workflow automations every month.
“We run millions of automations every month and they're automations like when a bug comes in of this type, then do this with it.”
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Mercedes-Benz has used the Atlassian suite for over a decade.
“Mercedes-Benz has been a customer of the Atlassian suite for over a decade.”
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An Atlassian team working on Confluence slides compared Figma designs against code to find differences.
“They took the designs from Figma and then the code and said, where are the deltas between the designs and the code?”
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Using Figma's MCP and coding agents, the Confluence slides team fixed fourteen design-to-code bugs in an hour, which Yehoshua says would have taken days.
“So they fixed fourteen bugs in an hour, which it would have taken days.”
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Confluence launched Remix with Rovo, which lets users highlight text on a page and remix it into a new format.
“So Confluence launched, uh, Remix with Rovo, where you can take on a page, you can highlight some text and use our Rovo AI to remix it into a new format.”
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Atlassian acquired DX, a company that measures AI adoption in engineering teams, in the fall before this conversation.
“We also have a product called DX. We acquired them last fall and they measure um, AI adoption in engineering teams”
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Yehoshua's team at Atlassian also runs corporate development and Atlassian Ventures.
“my team also runs, uh, Corp Dev and Atlassian Ventures.”
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Yehoshua says Atlassian has 370,000 customers and is used by 85 of the Fortune 500, with some running their most critical workflows on it.
“we have 370,000 customers. We, um, are in eighty five of the Fortune 500 people run, uh, their their tier zero workflows on Atlassian.”
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Atlassian launched an AI planner that turns a prompt into a spec, a technical document and work items before coding begins.
“we just launched what we call the AI planner, so the AI planner is, uh, is what you would do to identify what goes into the coding agent.”
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Atlassian's AI reviewer uses language models plus the context of a customer's previous incidents documented in Jira to review generated code.
“we have the AI reviewer, which uses um, LLMs again, but we have the context of all of your previous incidents.”
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Atlassian's AI SRE looks at past production issues and incidents as code is deployed.
“the AI SRE will look at what are the issues and the incidents that you may have had previously in production.”
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Atlassian built a website, teamwork graph dot com, where users can log in and visualize their own teamwork graph.
“we made a website called Teamwork graph dot com so that people could visualize it.”
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Atlassian CEO Mike Cannon-Brooks became enthusiastic about OpenClaw and built agents to run his personal life, and he told the executive team to try it.
“our CEO, Mike Cannon-Brooks, uh, when OpenClaw came out, got super pilled on OpenClaw and was like building, uh, agents to run his personal life and still does.”
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Atlassian holds AI Builders Week once a quarter, pausing normal product and design work for training and a project.
“once a quarter, we take a week out of everything that everyone's doing in product and design, and we, um, we train them on a subject.”
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Yehoshua says 70% of projects built during Atlassian's AI Builders Week continue to be used afterward.
“70% of what's built during Builders Week actually gets used later.”
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Yehoshua describes Forge as Atlassian's platform for third parties to build apps on top of Atlassian products.
“for people who don't know, it's our marketplace, it's where people build apps on top of Atlassian products.”
Undated
Atlassian uses an AI gateway that routes each job to the most appropriate model based on quality, latency and cost.
“we use a gateway that then routes to the model. That's the most appropriate model for the job that takes into account quality, latency and cost.”
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Atlassian's Jira, Jira Service Management and Confluence include built-in automations that call agents and run millions of times monthly.
“We run millions of automations every month”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian grew about 30% in the most recent quarter on a roughly $7 billion run rate, its fastest growth in about two years.
“We grew thirty odd percent last quarter on 7 billion dollar run rate, um, which is the fastest we've grown in about two years.”
March
Nilay Patel said Atlassian laid off about 10% of the company in March, announced in a Loom video by Mike Cannon-Brookes.
“In March, you laid off about 10% of the company. I watched the video you made in in Loom about that.”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian has roughly 12,000 to 13,000 employees worldwide.
“we are, um, I think publicly twelve, 13,000 odd, uh, around the world.”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said about 60% of Atlassian employees come to an office three or more days a week, while 25% never come in.
“About 60% of people come in three days a week or more. Um, but 25% of people don't come in a single day per week.”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian started with operations in both Australia and San Francisco, making it a globally distributed company from the start.
“When you start in Australia and San Francisco, you kinda get used to the Pacific Ocean being a little bit distribution.”
pre-COVID
Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian had only a few thousand employees before COVID.
“Pre-COVID, we were a few thousand people, you know what I mean?”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian currently has two chief technology officers, each paired with a chief product officer over a large product group.
“So we have a CRO, we have a CFO, we have, uh, two CTOs at the moment.”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said well over half of Atlassian's research and development spending goes to its shared platform rather than individual apps.
“Well over half of our R D is on the platform.”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian runs its own business entirely on the Atlassian platform.
“We do. We run entirely on the Atlassian platform.”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian's internal IT and engineering function now reports to its chief people officer, combining talent and systems work for AI adoption.
“Uh, now reports to our chief people officer, and I've combined those two roles, which is unusual.”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said roughly 96 to 97% of Atlassian employees regularly use Dia, the company's own web browser.
“I think it's like ninety six, 97% of Atlassian now uses DR on a regular basis.”
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Nilay Patel said Atlassian acquired The Browser Company for a little over $600 million about a year before the interview.
“You acquired a company called the Browser Company, uh, I think, for a little over 600 million. That was a a year ago.”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian customers who use its MCP servers and command-line tools grow their annual recurring revenue with Atlassian at twice the rate of those who don't.
“They grow their ARR at twice the rate of customers who don't use our AR, our, uh, CLI and MCP servers.”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said more than 98% of people using Atlassian's MCP server also use its regular user interface.
“More than 98% of people using our MCP server also use the user interface, and that is not changing, right?”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Atlassian built an MCP server and command-line tool for its publicly published design system at Atlassian.design.
“we now have an MCP and a CLI for our design system internally we have a award winning design system uh Atlassian dot design”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Dia's morning brief, which summarizes a user's calendar, messages and documents, runs locally on the user's machine rather than in the cloud.
“And it happens locally, it happens in on, it doesn't happen in the cloud, it happens on your machine.”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said Dia was in beta on Windows with general availability expected soon, and was already widely used on Mac.
“It's in beta on Windows G A's very, very soon, um, and it's used on the Mac by a huge number of people on a daily basis”
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Mike Cannon-Brookes said he tells large customers not to centralize everything on the Atlassian platform and positions Atlassian as a connected hub rather than a control tower.
“I am probably the only C E O that goes into customers, massive, large scale customers, and says, do not centralize everything on my platform.”
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