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14 facts from 1 episode, in date order. These are what speakers said on the shows, each linked to the moment it was said. They aren't independently verified.

2020

Citadel AI was started at the end of 2020, before the era of large language models.

“when we started the company, it was at the end of 2020, um, so it was before the era of large language models.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:14:37

2020

Citadel AI initially focused on adversarial attacks in 2020 because it was a hot research topic.

“when we, uh, started the company originally, we focused, um, a lot on adversarial attacks. Actually, back in 2020, since it was a very hot research topic.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:17:35

2020

Citadel AI found after a few months that companies were not commercially interested in adversarial attack defense, and it pivoted to observability and testing.

“We sort of found that after a few months, um, this wasn't really a problem that companies were interested in.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:18:10

2023

LangCheck was created partly because industry-standard text metrics focused on English, while Citadel AI's customers also use Japanese, Chinese and German.

“we work with a lot of customers that have Japanese text, or, um, Chinese or German, and and these other languages.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:37:44

Undated

Citadel AI builds software tools to test, monitor and govern AI systems for organizations.

“So what we do at Citadel is we build software tools to help organizations test, monitor, and govern their AI systems.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:08:36

Undated

Around two years before the recording, Citadel AI's customers began showing much greater interest in large language models.

“And about two years ago, we started getting a lot more interest in our from our customers in LLMs.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:14:37

Undated

Rick Kobayashi says banks, insurers and securities firms are among Citadel AI's largest customers in Japan and are aggressively adopting LLM applications.

“One of the largest customers in in in Japan is the financial industry, surprisingly so, like banks or insurance companies or security companies are very aggressive to introduce LLM applications into their core operations.”

Rick Kobayashi · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:18:57

Undated

Kenny Song says generative AI lacks ground truth, so classic metrics like accuracy, precision and recall cannot be used.

“So you can't measure accuracy, you can't measure precision or recall.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:26:25

Undated

Kenny Song says the industry approach to evaluating generative AI is using an LLM as a judge with evaluation prompts.

“basically, um, using LLM as a judge, um, so you can craft these evaluation prompts that ask an LLM to evaluate some quality of some generated text.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:26:57

Undated

Kenny Song says customers typically create 50 to 100 manual annotations and then compare automated LLM metrics against human judgment.

“So maybe like 50 to 100 of these manual annotations. And from there, you can design LLM automated metrics and measure their correlation and accuracy against a human judgment.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:30:08

Undated

LangCheck is Citadel AI's open source Python library of built-in metrics for evaluating text quality.

“LangCheck is a is our open source Python library, um, that contains, um, a a suite of metrics that are built in that you can use for evaluating the quality of text.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:37:12

Undated

Kenny Song says LLM-judge metrics can include sentiment, hallucination detection against a source document, and answer relevance.

“Um, you could do that with traditional, um, like a sentiment classifier as well, um. But there are more sophisticated metrics, such as, you know, uh, detecting hallucinations against some ground truth document”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:27:33

Undated

Kenny Song gives a custom metric example: checking whether a refund chatbot follows a company's refund policy.

“So if you have, like, a refund chatbot, you can design a metric that, uh, measures if the chatbot adheres to your, your company's refund policy.”

Kenny Song · GenAI risks and global adoption, 0:27:33

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